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Title: If CD didn't come out
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 11, 2005, 08:28:12 PM
Would you still frequent HTGTH and other GNR forums? Or would you forget about these sites and just move on with your lives? Could you still enjoy discussing GNR with fellow fans knowing that a new album wasn't coming? I'm just curious as to how you guys(and gals) would feel if we got bad news in relation to CD. Since alot of you think that the 'well is drying up' concerning GNR topics to talk about, I would like your opinions on this subject. Or lets say it does come out, but in five years. Can the GNR forums withstand that long of a wait? Or would the GNR online communities crumble?


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: GypsySoul on June 11, 2005, 08:47:25 PM
Considering that HTGTH wasn't started until 1996 and the last GNR album came out in 1993 (not counting the Live one), we've been "HERE" for eight plus years without an album.? And even if Axl himself came out today and said that he would NEVER release CD, I think that would start up a whole nother set of topics to keep this site and board going for atleast another eight years!?? :yes:


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Walapino on June 11, 2005, 08:49:59 PM
it depends on your idea of what gnr is, to me it will always be the original band so i guess I would still frequent boards and stuff.
If CD never comes out im sure the hired guys would be leaving in mass cuz the proyect would be dead.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on June 11, 2005, 08:51:24 PM
 ? Honestly, I'm a huge GNR fan (I wouldn't be here if I wasn't), but if I heard an announcement from Axl himself that CD isn't coming out, I'd be gone. ?I'm still here because no such announcement's been made. ?Plus, this wait is hilarious in itself. ?Every year my friends think I'm crazier and crazier for waiting on this album. ?IRS, CD, Maddy, and The Blues whetted my Appetite somethin' fierce!!! ?

 :beer:

PS ?Only the craziest of the crazies would stick around if ol' Uncle Axl threw in the towel and retired. ?:( ?


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 11, 2005, 08:57:15 PM
But Gypsy, all these years that the site has been here, there was always HOPE for a new album. If the CD rug got pulled out from under us, I think you would see a completely different atmosphere. If the wait goes on indefinitely, you will definitely see some sort of fan backlash.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: GypsySoul on June 11, 2005, 09:10:15 PM
I agree that there would be some fan backlash but there's always been fans coming and going, right?
But the main reason I think that this site and board would go on for a good long time is because of all the "conspiracy" theories that would start, i.e., Axl's just trying to throw us off!? He's ready to release CD so he's telling us he's not!!!? Why else would he have waited 12 years to say he's pulling the plug?


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: 2NaFish on June 11, 2005, 09:28:09 PM
the album hasnt been out for the last 5 years and i still frequent a few boards so the answer to your quetion is yes.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 12, 2005, 02:24:20 AM
Yeah I see what you're saying, but those conspiracy theories would get old really quick. The next year is going to be VERY interesting. Not just concerning the state of CD, but also in concern to the GNR forums. There's gonna be alot of pissed off people when January 1 2006 comes and goes with no CD in sight. I really love this site, and Jarmo did an incredible thing by creating this site for GNR fans to mingle together. Every other message board pales in comparison to this one. And the other GNR sites are pretty good. But there has been a tremendous amount of pressure building in the GNR community for several years now. Something has to occur to relieve that pressure. Whether its CD release, a major leak of material, or at least a song or two on a soundtrack. SOMETHING has to happen, and 'soon'. At some point in time, Axl's fanbase is gonna explode. And it wont be a pretty sight when it happens.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Wooody on June 12, 2005, 05:18:39 AM
I would stop posting, I don't see the point of posting on a dead band's message board.

I know what you're gonna say, "it's already dead"

Well, I would say GNR is in a COMA.

That's one helluva conundrum right there. Should I stay or should I go ? :P

People have woken up from coma after years....... look at kill bill..

It leaves me wondering... yeah wondering..


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 12, 2005, 05:33:44 AM
Woody, I have to agree with you. I would probably stop posting also. I would check the site every now and then to see who's still here and to see what people could possibly be talking about. But I dont know if the board would completely die off. It would probably be similar to an 80's message board I check out once in a blue moon: A few people dreaming about the good old days.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: GypsySoul on June 12, 2005, 10:16:58 AM
I don't think HTGTH will shut down anytime soon? :no:

Think how long it could go on just on how Axl would say CD is scrapped because he head that VR is breaking up and he wants to remove all of BH's stuff so Slash can be the new fourth guitarist?? :P

and what about all the lawsuit threads that'll keep HTGTH going? Lawsuits takes YEARS!!! ... Axl vs Interscope ... Axl vs Sanctuary ... Axl vs Merck ... Axl vs Robin/Tommy/Richard/Dizzy/Chris/Brain ...? :hihi: ?


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Krispy Kreme on June 12, 2005, 10:20:47 AM
But Gypsy, all these years that the site has been here, there was always HOPE for a new album. If the CD rug got pulled out from under us, I think you would see a completely different atmosphere. If the wait goes on indefinitely, you will definitely see some sort of fan backlash.

It seems to me that the level of frustration expressed by many members (including me at times) on this board already is "some sort of fan backlash."


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 12, 2005, 03:30:08 PM
Krispy Kreme, I dont consider are posts venting our frustrations to be a "backlash". If large numbers of people left the forums and never came back, that would definitely be a backlash.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: AxlFink on June 12, 2005, 03:44:40 PM
james,  the entire world will crumble if it comes out or doesnt come out. 


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 12, 2005, 04:14:44 PM
I would still frequent the forum... Just for me I would consider new gnr to have neevr even happened.. Only a few people know it anyways.... No way I would give robin or tommy credit for 7=8 years in a band with no album.. if the album vame out in 2010 would I give them 10 years plus credit being in gnr?? :no: it's not a diss either, I doubt they would feel like they were gnr members either..


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: nesquick on June 12, 2005, 04:35:00 PM
Once CD is released I'll post my review, and then, you'll never see me again on GN'R forums. This chapter will be closed.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 12, 2005, 04:39:41 PM
if the album ever comes out the comparisons with vr will be endless and the forum will be so fucking annoying..


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: ClintroN on June 12, 2005, 04:50:16 PM
i would stop posting.

Im a real fan of the origenal but im mainly here for the new band, waitin' for there next step. Thats why im here!!

CHINESE DEMOCRACY         8)


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Wooody on June 12, 2005, 04:50:36 PM
Once CD is released I'll post my review, and then, you'll never see me again on GN'R forums. This chapter will be closed.

he, so true; I come here to find out when it's coming out... when it does you'll never see me again.

But there's a problem..they'll continue to say a new album is coming out...... so we'll wait again...and haunt the boards again..... zzzzzzzzzz, there's no way out. Unless axl dies.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 12, 2005, 04:51:39 PM
Once CD is released I'll post my review, and then, you'll never see me again on GN'R forums. This chapter will be closed.

he, so true; I come here to find out when it's coming out... when it does you'll never see me again.

But there's a problem..they'll continue to say a new album is coming out...... so we'll wait again...and haunt the boards again..... zzzzzzzzzz, there's no way out. Unless axl dies.

when axl goes in his will he will be burried with the only copy of cd :hihi:


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: nesquick on June 12, 2005, 05:04:17 PM
I will still come to get some news, sure, but unless big events happen, I think I'll stop posting.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: ppbebe on June 12, 2005, 07:02:26 PM
I come here for the love of the new songs and the band as well as for the love of the follow fans who support the same band. You know a friend in need is a friend indeed.
I might refrain from posting IF Axl should give up his ideals n ambitions of the band that polly all the members share and take the reunion path. Not in a least for disgust but for indifference.

On topic, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. :smoking:


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2005, 03:55:26 AM
I've been operating under that assumption for a while now.  I just hope that one day the real GN'R gets back together.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Wooody on June 13, 2005, 05:28:36 AM
I come here for the love of the new songs and the band as well as for the love of the follow fans who support the same band. You know a friend in need is a friend indeed.
I might refrain from posting IF Axl should give up his ideals n ambitions of the band that polly all the members share and take the reunion path. Not in a least for disgust but for indifference.

On topic, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. :smoking:

yup, fuck the reunion.. reunions are for the kiss & motley crues of the world.  :P


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: D on June 13, 2005, 05:38:47 AM
If u want this forum to shut down, get rid of the Jungle :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:


U can't believe a word axl says

if he said tomorrow the cd wasnt ever coming out, we would start 500 threads on interpreting that and talkin back and forth how he is just fooling us and trying to surprise us.

we are some crazy bastards, that's for sure. but we are loyal, thats the most important thing. :hihi: :hihi:


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: CoyDog on June 13, 2005, 05:48:23 AM
IF is a subjective word......example:
IF frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their asses when they jump...
IF pigs had wings they could fly....

ChiDem is not an IF but a WHEN....and the mysterious mysteron says
Oct,Nov,Dec.....is a tentative release date..I am inclined to believe this.

Triggerman


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: oneAXLinamillion on June 13, 2005, 05:11:34 PM
It will come out when it will be ready... : ok:


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Nytunz on June 13, 2005, 05:38:57 PM
It will come out when it will be ready... : ok:

I hope so, but will it be ready soon? or are there more work to do? hmm. I just hope that it will be perfect when it comes out, so i dont blame Axls Delays. Think for yourself :)


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: smith13 on June 13, 2005, 06:10:36 PM
if cd never came out it's over. the only reason we are here is to find out about the new
cd  people are growing tired. what would there be left to write about


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on June 14, 2005, 11:39:05 AM
The guns n roses internet community will last forever
anyway i dont think the album is gonna be released soon....
and if it does... its not gonna be succesfull.. anyway... axl doesnt care about those things then... it doesnt really matter...

Axl... please bury the hutchet... forget your hatred!!!

I think he reads these things too....  maybe he is reading this right now among us... ;)
ps: you are the best ;) but  as latins say...  La union hace la fuerza... bye


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Nytunz on June 14, 2005, 12:04:05 PM
The guns n roses internet community will last forever
anyway i dont think the album is gonna be released soon....
and if it does... its not gonna be succesfull.. anyway... axl doesnt care about those things then... it doesnt really matter...

Axl... please bury the hutchet... forget your hatred!!!

I think he reads these things too....? maybe he is reading this right now among us... ;)
ps: you are the best ;) but? as latins say...? La union hace la fuerza... bye

Well, i think that this is the right time to release Chinese Democracy! Rock is back! Its almost as good as it was back in the beginning of the 90s! After 6 months of 2005 there has been released alot of Good albums by rock/heavy artists! This is the time for CD to show that GNR still is the BEST band in the world


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Dave_Rose on June 14, 2005, 12:52:29 PM
I would still visit but I dont think I'll be a regular vister here and there if no CD was not to come out


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on June 14, 2005, 04:35:46 PM
If it didn't come out I would name my album Chinese Democracy just to get some sales from morons.? I know that dirty. :no:? But would it work? ??? :rofl:


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Elrothiel on June 14, 2005, 05:25:35 PM
Heh, I'd still frequent and post here. I love this forum! People still buy t-shirts from bands who are long gone, so why not stay on the forum even if Axl did announce that ChiDem would not be coming out!? Would you REALLY leave if that announcement was made? I don't think so. Not if you're a real fan. Real fans stay no matter what! ChiDem hasn't come out yet, and people are still here! Hell, the SITE is still here! Real fans stay. No Matter What.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: AxlsMainMan on June 15, 2005, 11:31:45 AM
I come to this site daily because I love and support both new and the old lineup, and think that Axl truly does have a brilliant album out there somewhere that he desperately wants me and you fellow supporters to hear when the time is right. Even when CD is out, I still will probably come here for the discussions and psycho-analysis of the album because I mean lets face it, If we can keep ourselves preoccuppied since 96 with no new music essentially, then following a release we will have PLENTY left to discuss. If Axl were to say hypothetically (I hope) that the album was scrapped I probably would be heartbroken to an extent but Id still come here still because I would be curious to see what musical projects and paths the current members would undertake.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Buddha_Master on June 15, 2005, 12:32:22 PM
If there is an announcement that Axl is officially retiring from music and has destroyed all of his music masters and copies, archival and whatnot, this board would cease to exist. Why? Because I will longer give a fuck about GNR, and will not come back here. This would mean no one else would.

...and no, it is you who are the arrogant one.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on June 15, 2005, 02:05:17 PM
The guns n roses internet community will last forever
anyway i dont think the album is gonna be released soon....
and if it does... its not gonna be succesfull.. anyway... axl doesnt care about those things then... it doesnt really matter...

Axl... please bury the hutchet... forget your hatred!!!

I think he reads these things too....? maybe he is reading this right now among us... ;)
ps: you are the best ;) but? as latins say...? La union hace la fuerza... bye


Well, i think that this is the right time to release Chinese Democracy! Rock is back! Its almost as good as it was back in the beginning of the 90s! After 6 months of 2005 there has been released alot of Good albums by rock/heavy artists! This is the time for CD to show that GNR still is the BEST band in the world

Certainly lots of albums have been recently released...
I will buy  chinese democracy.. I wont download it or buy a copy of it... but do you think with all these things (internet and piracy) chinese democracy might become a success?

well.. only time will tell, if Axl ever decides to release it...



Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Twisted Nerve 85 on June 15, 2005, 05:31:03 PM
Ill be a GnR fan until I die,but honestly Id tone down my presence on this board serverely. Unless I was coming here for trading and buying dvd's and merchandise and stuff Id probably stay away. Because honestly GnR means more to me than the old band, the name still exists and if Axl never releases an album with the new GnR then it is truly dead.  :peace:


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 15, 2005, 05:37:39 PM
Some interesting posts, guys. I partially agree with all of you. There will definitely be alot of activity leading up to CD release. In the weeks(maybe months) after CD release, there will be a huge surge of activity here with people discussing CD. Lyrics,reviews, what the album means to them. After that is when fan activity in all the GNR forums is gonna die down immensely. People aren't gonna sit around waiting for the second CD. A possible tour wont keep people here either. Like I said in an earlier post, ALOT of people are gonna "move on". Its just a simple fact of life. Closure is gonna change alot of people's mindset.


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: sergejg on June 15, 2005, 05:38:27 PM
To me the whole idea of a message board is to discuss news about a band that you like. If you are here for the past facts then probably there's another source for that kind of information. I would leave the message board if it wasn't to try to check what's going on with Chinese democracy


Title: Re: If CD didn't come out
Post by: Jamie on June 15, 2005, 06:00:33 PM
I think if CD was never to come out mental hospitals all over the world would be rapidly filling with GnR fans!
Really, if CD was never to come out, I'd probably still visit the site and the board to keep discussing GnR. There is plenty to talk about regarding the old band and side projects etc. But it certainly wouldn't be as often as I visit now.