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He sounded much better on the euro leg of the tour than on the US leg. On the US league some shows he was amazing but pretty much every show on the euro leg he was pretty damn great. Is that because he was siging less shows a week in europe?

He obviously likes us Europeans better cause we're awesome.

Yeah! Copy that!  :yes: : ok:

maybe because he was outside on most of the european gigs if not all and vice versa, or whatever, in the us?

the japan gigs were also inside right and they sound also more like the us, or ???

that was because in europe, the grass is green and the girls are pretty.

also, the food and the drinks are better in europe.

and the audience is better in europe.

put simple, in europe everything is better.

 ;D

really so you think Axl is keen on warm beer and blood pudding and maybe a little haggis ::)  If anything had to do with his bad singing in the US, maybe he was more stressed about making a strong imprtession  with his "comeback" in his home country? Who knows, but I agree he sounded noticeably worse on some of those US arena shows, I was very disappointed and a little embarassed for him atr the show I attended, except for MSG, I was proud to be an Axl fan when I heard that one,

andf BTW Axl will always be a badass frontman. Even if he continues to lose some range and power on his singing voice(which happens to anyone, part of aging) I still think he can kick ass for many years, with all the energy and emotion he puts into his live show.  I just hope he never resorts to lip synching or using a bunch of backing tracks, I d rather see him running around stage belting 'em out with all the raw Axl emotion if if some of the notes are a little rough

Except of course the MUSIC, which is the reason why you listen to GNR in the first place    :D

~KYI

Gotta disagree..there are alot of great european bands...who are atleast touring... :P

don't forget europeans made a us!!!
but about axl,yes you're right,he was better on european tour!!!
But in new year eve 2001 he was the best

Back to the point Dave presented, yes I agree perhaps he needs a few days in between shows. I don't want to get into another discussion about the VMA performance, but he had just come off peforming quite a few gigs in the week or so beforehand in Europe from memory, so it's a possibility.

 :rofl:

Something about Anarchy's posts....

On topic, the guys was 40 years old then. His voice sure can't recover as fast as it did 15 years ago. In europe he played a few festivals and London, that's three gigs, in America how many are we talking about? 10-15?

Man, I went to a U2 gig in 2001, and bono sounded aweful. I don't know how he sounds these days, but I'm pretty sure he's got more aweful days than bad ones... :hihi:

Damn right.


Damn right too

I agree Europe is awesome, but keep in mind this is not a thread about Europe vs the rest of the world ;)

Quite agree

I agree with you Dave. And along those lines his voice sounded excellent in Vegas and Rio. Something I was saying as the 2002 tour was unfolding, and we were getting mp3s from the shows, is that Axl was obviously playing safety with his voice. He was looking at a long tour and afraid to really let loose with it.

every thread is a thread about Europe vs the rest of the world!! :smoking:  :hihi:

I thought this was a thread about Europe vs America. :P

Dude Europe is not UK. I guess even scottish kids don't know what animal the haggis is.

As for the topic,

Not only the vocal. In European footages the band itself sounds more energetic n tight.
And the audience too. The atmosphere is great.
It's the same with Vegas and Rio.

I think his voice sounds cleaner on many songs off Tokyo n Osaka boots. Maybe it's because of the recording quality.

What outstanding bands from Europe are you talking of?  The Hives are about it, the rest of Europe's music is pretty weak, to say the least. Canada is putting out better tunes that the Euros.  There are just some things that Americans are better at and entertaining oneself is one of them.  Look at us, we are fat, un-informed about world events, and ego driven, tell me we are not being entertained by great music, movies, etc. 

If we are so bad then explain to me why when I was in Spain vityually every song I heard was an American artist or a remake of an American artist's song?  Sounds like a thriving music scene to me!

I think you're frogeting that Britan is in Europe and that means bands like: Led Zeppelin
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The Sex Pistols
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Iron Maiden
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Judas Priest
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The Clash
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Black Sabbath
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The Beatles
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Oasis
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? And millions of other legendary bands from Britan and Europe? :yes:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

I thought that the British just thought of themselves as British and not European.  Similar to Bavarians not being Germans.  Even if you do count in the UK it is still a weak scene.  One country, the UK, is carrying the load for an entire continent. 

Oasis?  Legendary?  Only in their own minds!

[On topic, the guys was 40 years old then. His voice sure can't recover as fast as it did 15 years ago. In europe he played a few festivals and London, that's three gigs, in America how many are we talking about? 10-15?
I saw Vr the other night and Scott's not so young and he sounded amazing, plus he's on a full fledged every night kind of tour and he's been on tour for over a year now. Axl doesn't have a strong voice anymore I guess. His voice sounds great I really like it on IRS i think that's a good tune.
By the way MSG he sounded great maybe just a one day break between each big travel day is what he needs. Oh and America is awesome :P

Rammstein are a pretty awesome German band and there's a kick ass metal scene in Scandanavia.

Thin Lizzy, The Beatles, U2, Jethro Tull, The Who, The Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Sex Pistols, are all European; and I could definitely name more if I put my mind to it.

And in my opinion Axl sounded better in Europe basically because of fatigue he was experiencing after the amount of shows in the States. I'm not gonna say it's because Europeans are brilliant or anythin!  : ok:

Hooray for Europe. Take it to Bad Obsession, this is the GN'R section.



/jarmo

In their minds they always were, but when you put out an album like Definitely Maybe and follow up with (What's the Story?) Morning Glory you become legendary. They have the second best selling album in the UK, only losing to guess who (Sgt Peppers). You may not like Oasis (that's your own fucking problem), but they are legendary.

About the thread, I think the best from Axl since Rock in Rio were some of the gigs in the USA, but he was less consistent in the American tour.

Well I think the best concerts AXL ever did was in Southamerica so ...  :peace:
I think Southamerica is better than europe   :P

We can claim Slash as  British too don't forget lol.

As for Axl i definatly think the Japan/Euro shows were set out a bit better, where it wasn't too much too soon.  Because we all aware that Axl is not one for rehearsals as such.  You can imagine that he probably hadn't sung 2 hours or whatever straight - night after night for some time.
 

Maybe there's less pressure here too? There's perhaps a more accepting audience for new material here? It would be interesting to see which areas they put more original songs in the set. My theory could be totally off lol but hey.  I hope they plan the "next" tour alot better so there's no chance of no shows - THEM GONE.