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Title: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Marc8382 on May 26, 2005, 05:03:48 PM
I ask this question because looking back, the wait between AFD and the Illusion albums was only four years and GNR came up with thirty songs to release in that waiting period.  It's been thirteen years since the Illusion albums were released so is there the potential that Axl has around ninety songs worth releasing? 


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Timothy on May 26, 2005, 05:13:00 PM
probably about 11 to 15 songs .


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: mikegiuliana on May 26, 2005, 05:20:42 PM
well isn't it like 18 songs, b sides, drop several albums over the first few years?


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 26, 2005, 05:49:54 PM
Well, there was that rumor about Axl giving 15 tracks to the record company. And for some strange reason, no one jumped all over it saying it was bullshit. And if its supposedly coming out at the end of the year, that rumor is probably true.


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: blasphemer on May 26, 2005, 05:53:08 PM
Theres gonna be 54 songs that are 1 to 2 minutes long on the album :drool:


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: nesquick on May 26, 2005, 06:14:52 PM
12-15 KILLER tracks would be great. No fillers. Just show the best material. No B-sides. 18 tracks are too much.
The quantity doesn't matter, all is about the quallity.


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: blues rocker on May 26, 2005, 07:00:42 PM
who cares...this has to be like the millionth thread with this topic...it's sad that because gnr never releases any real info for us to discuss, forums are overflowing with worthless topics like this...


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: nick on May 26, 2005, 08:33:14 PM
who cares...this has to be like the millionth thread with this topic...it's sad that because gnr never releases any real info for us to discuss, forums are overflowing with worthless topics like this...

Amen to that!


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Saul on May 26, 2005, 11:36:39 PM
either 19 1/2 songs or 26.8 songs.  : ok:


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Walapino on May 26, 2005, 11:46:34 PM
I would hope no less than 14 and no more than 16... but Ill take what I get at this point :)


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Voodoochild on May 27, 2005, 12:31:42 AM
6 tracks and 18 remix-versions a la My World! : ok:


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: RnT on May 27, 2005, 12:42:16 AM
12-15 KILLER tracks would be great. No fillers. Just show the best material. No B-sides. 18 tracks are too much.
The quantity doesn't matter, all is about the quallity.

I think 15 songs


nesquick.................... the........... girl.... oh man ..............


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Axl-rocks on May 27, 2005, 01:36:36 AM
I think around? 15 songs too


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: nesquick on May 27, 2005, 06:09:55 AM
12-15 KILLER tracks would be great. No fillers. Just show the best material. No B-sides. 18 tracks are too much.
The quantity doesn't matter, all is about the quallity.

I think 15 songs


nesquick.................... the........... girl.... oh man ..............
ahaaa... :D ;)
I have good taste :P


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: jarmo on May 27, 2005, 10:05:44 AM
I have good taste :P

Because you want 18 "indus" songs on CD?  ???


Axl mentioned 18 tracks back in 2002....



/jarmo


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: nesquick on May 27, 2005, 10:16:19 AM
I have good taste :P

Because you want 18 "indus" songs on CD?? ???


Axl mentioned 18 tracks back in 2002....



/jarmo
what? we spoke about the girl, not the album. :)


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: jarmo on May 27, 2005, 10:26:02 AM
I know, and that is off topic.



/jarmo


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: nesquick on May 27, 2005, 10:28:00 AM
ah ok. sorry. I didn't understand.


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Falcon on May 27, 2005, 10:30:33 AM
How many minutes of material can be put on a CD these days?

With Axl's penchant for the long song I'd thnk we'd get a "full" release, no matter what the actual number of tunes may be.


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: jarmo on May 27, 2005, 11:14:57 AM
How many minutes of material can be put on a CD these days?

Isn't it still around 74-80 minutes?





/jarmo


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Neemo on May 27, 2005, 11:22:37 AM
How many minutes of material can be put on a CD these days?

Isn't it still around 74-80 minutes?





/jarmo

As far as I know, yeah

I just went through all my copies of the "new" songs the lengths are approximately as follows:

Oh My God - 3:40
Madagascar - 5:30
The Blues - 4:30
Chinese Democracy - 3:00
IRS - 3:40
Rhiad and the Bedouins - 3:20
Silkworms - 3:20

thats about 27 minutes for 7 tracks. so that's, on average 3minutes and 50 seconds per track. Which works out to be 20 tracks in 80 minutes (@ 3.83333 mins/track)

It is conceivable that there may be 18 tracks on CD like Axl said ages ago or maybe the 15 track rumor is true and there is a song or 2 around 7 minutes long.


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Lesty on May 27, 2005, 12:06:35 PM
forgive me if this has been mentioned earlier.
Today Melodicrock posted this rumored track list, which I haven't seen before.
Interesting that The Blues was excluded, but like so many other things I have a feeling this is far from official.

Chinese Democracy . Wombosi . I.R.S. . Thyme . Greenletter . The General . Todd The Intern . Madagascar . Shameless . Catcher In The Rye . Leave Me Alone . Atlantis . Closing In On You . Velvet Rope Dope.



Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: ppbebe on May 27, 2005, 12:15:26 PM
around 74-80 minutes...

Hum 1) 3/4  of  10~ 27 mins long epic rockers
        2) 3  of  approx 5 mins little gems
        3) A       short sweet sour surprise                a la My World  :hihi:

a total of 7/8    :hihi:


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Neemo on May 27, 2005, 12:24:16 PM
around 74-80 minutes...

Hum 1) 3/4? of? 10~ 27 mins long epic rockers
? ? ? ? 2) 3? of? approx 5 mins little gems
? ? ? ? 3) A? ? ? ?short sweet sour surprise? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? a la My World? :hihi:

a total of 7/8? ? :hihi:

How about just one song about 70 minutes long like Tubular Bells? :rofl:


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Saul on May 27, 2005, 01:20:38 PM


Chinese Democracy . Wombosi . I.R.S. . Thyme . Greenletter . The General . Todd The Intern . Madagascar . Shameless . Catcher In The Rye . Leave Me Alone . Atlantis . Closing In On You . Velvet Rope Dope.



haha , those are a few different titles.


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: ppbebe on May 27, 2005, 01:51:30 PM

How about just one song about 70 minutes long like Tubular Bells? :rofl:
Neemo  :D I didn't know that you are the fan of Great Tubular Bells!!!  How unpredictable!

Actually I dreamed of that.....but I thought, You know in actuality a band would need songs in the length of a single...so I dared not post it. :P


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Neemo on May 27, 2005, 02:00:53 PM

How about just one song about 70 minutes long like Tubular Bells? :rofl:
Neemo? :D I didn't know that you are the fan of Great Tubular Bells!!!? How unpredictable!

Actually I dreamed of that.....but I thought, You know in actuality a band would need songs in the length of a single...so I dared not post it. :P

How about trying to play and sing a song like that live,  :nervous: , Axl has to leave every 10 min or so now for a breather, he would be hoarse after 1 concert, but it would be a cool show : ok:

ppbebe, I give all music a listen, loud guitars rule for me though so Dave Mustaine, Slash, Dimebag, Zakk Wylde etc. are my heros, but one can't live on meat alone, so other music gets played at my house regularly. I'm not just some metal-head :hihi:



Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: mrlee on May 27, 2005, 03:25:26 PM
the general sounds a cool title


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: RnT on May 27, 2005, 03:59:19 PM


Chinese Democracy . Wombosi . I.R.S. . Thyme . Greenletter . The General . Todd The Intern . Madagascar . Shameless . Catcher In The Rye . Leave Me Alone . Atlantis . Closing In On You . Velvet Rope Dope.



haha , those are a few different titles.

 ???
can we get more info on this?
email the magazine or even "someone with sources" ( Myst... cof cof... )


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 27, 2005, 06:46:28 PM
I'm surprised people didn't freak out when Tommy said something like " this is gonna be a short album". Not an exact quote, but pretty close. CD might just be the best 8 or 9 songs Axl has.


Title: Re: How many songs will be on Chinese Democracy?
Post by: Timothy on May 27, 2005, 09:01:32 PM
I believe that TOmmy said it was going to be 10-11 tracks .

But after all these years of Tommy saying stuff .I think it's pretty safe to say he doesn't have a fuckin clue whats going on.