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Title: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Nytunz on May 12, 2005, 07:40:47 AM Launch Radio Networks reports: Former Led Zeppelin frontman Robert Plant released his new solo album, "Mighty Rearranger", on Tuesday, May 10. It's Plant's first outing on Sanctuary Records, and a step away from the major labels he's worked with in the past. But Plant says that these days a smaller company is the way to go. "Stay away from a major label," he told Launch. "You know, you've got to be able to deal with people who are telling the truth. You can't be in a position where, if things aren't happening for you within four weeks, you're history and you're left dangling forever. I know quite a few artists of my era who are in that position now, who just can't get away."
Plant is accompanied on "Mighty Rearranger" by his latest band, the Strange Sensation. Well, is this what Axl is doing now? Trying to get away from the major label? Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on May 12, 2005, 07:44:33 AM His era was the 70s, and he said get away, which IMO means leave the music biz.
Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Intercourse on May 12, 2005, 08:17:01 AM I think he means get away from the constraints the majors put on artisits (Prince, George Micheal...lawsuits etc).
Smaller companies in the music business give more musical freedom and have a stronger personal relationship with their artists which allows for a wider scope of development. many artists on majors are signed but for various legal and business reasons cannot get out any product. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: erose on May 12, 2005, 08:21:12 AM he couldn't be talking about axl because they're on the same small label right, sanctuary records or?
Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: mikegiuliana on May 12, 2005, 08:57:47 AM I don't think he is speaking on behalf of axl..
Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: 2NaFish on May 12, 2005, 09:16:26 AM errm, my era? i don't think you've really thought this through.
Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Nytunz on May 12, 2005, 09:30:02 AM errm, my era? i don't think you've really thought this through. easy down fish. The Era thing could be "the same genere" But anyway! He use Sanctuary and know about artists who have trouble with major companies! I dont know if Axl is trying to move to Sanctuary, since he use Sanctuary marketing Group! Mighty Rearrenger is a great record ;D Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Neemo on May 12, 2005, 09:54:32 AM Guns n Roses are not of the same era as Zepplin!!!! :rant: :rant:
Guns n Roses are from late 80's early 90's along with Poison, Warrant, Skid Row, Tesla, Black Crowes, etc. etc. Hell even Motley Crue (although they were around sooner and lasted longer)! they were in the Heavy Metal Category! This is direct from the rollingstone.com gnr biography. "Not since the Sex Pistols, has a band generated more grist for gossip column mills than Guns N' Roses. The sexual exploits of the band's members and their persistent problems with drugs have led to relentless badgering from the music press. As with the Pistols, it is difficult to objectively comment on the merits of GN'R's music, because of the tower of hype obscuring it from view. Suffice it to say that the 1987 album Appetite for Destruction is a benchmark against which few albums in the genre of Heavy Metal (including subsequent GN'R records) can be measured and not deemed inferior. Axl Rose's vitriolic songwriting electrified a generation, and the enigmatic Slash will no doubt continue to be the subject of fawning guitar magazine profiles for decades to come. Though they've taken a beating over the course of their career, few would write off at least the possibility for Guns N' Roses to rise, phoenix-like, from the ashes and reassert their claim to the Heavy Metal throne. " I laugh every time I read , heavy metal sucks but GnR rules. gimme a friggin break!! Zepplin is 70's, like 20 years prior and are with bands like Cream, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath. In short Not the same Genre, at all, EVER!! Hell, GnR were probably inspired by bands that were inspired by Zepplin. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Nytunz on May 12, 2005, 10:20:50 AM Guns n Roses are not of the same era as Zepplin!!!!? :rant:? :rant: Guns n Roses are from late 80's early 90's along with Poison, Warrant, Skid Row, Tesla, Black Crowes, etc. etc. Hell even Motley Crue (although they were around sooner and lasted longer)! they were in the Heavy Metal Category! This is direct from the rollingstone.com gnr biography. "Not since the Sex Pistols, has a band generated more grist for gossip column mills than Guns N' Roses. The sexual exploits of the band's members and their persistent problems with drugs have led to relentless badgering from the music press. As with the Pistols, it is difficult to objectively comment on the merits of GN'R's music, because of the tower of hype obscuring it from view. Suffice it to say that the 1987 album Appetite for Destruction is a benchmark against which few albums in the genre of Heavy Metal (including subsequent GN'R records) can be measured and not deemed inferior. Axl Rose's vitriolic songwriting electrified a generation, and the enigmatic Slash will no doubt continue to be the subject of fawning guitar magazine profiles for decades to come. Though they've taken a beating over the course of their career, few would write off at least the possibility for Guns N' Roses to rise, phoenix-like, from the ashes and reassert their claim to the Heavy Metal throne. " I laugh every time I read , heavy metal sucks but GnR rules. gimme a friggin break!! Zepplin is 70's, like 20 years prior and are with bands like Cream, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath. What has this to do with the topic? ??? In short Not the same Genre, at all, EVER!! Hell, GnR were probably inspired by bands that were inspired by Zepplin. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: 2NaFish on May 12, 2005, 10:32:56 AM errm, my era? i don't think you've really thought this through. easy down fish. The Era thing could be "the same genere" But anyway! He use Sanctuary and know about artists who have trouble with major companies! I dont know if Axl is trying to move to Sanctuary, since he use Sanctuary marketing Group! Mighty Rearrenger is a great record ;D It's not something i can really be bothered getting in to, but era and genre are in no way interchageable. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: ppbebe on May 12, 2005, 11:04:42 AM The labeling buisiness sucks. Nay? Nytunz. ;D
I don't think Mr plant suggested GN'R there (a generation of difference). But the situation may well be related with that of GN'R to some extent. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Neemo on May 12, 2005, 11:27:57 AM In short Not the same Genre, at all, EVER!! Hell, GnR were probably inspired by bands that were inspired by Zepplin. What has this to do with the topic? ??? Because Robert plant can't be refering to Axl, because Axl was like 10 or something when Zepplin started. Guns is not same era (or genre) as Zepplin. period. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Nytunz on May 12, 2005, 01:18:21 PM well, i lay down suck licks ur feeth! Happy!?
:-* dont get so upset by a simple question, Shnappi! :hihi: Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: HK-47 on May 12, 2005, 01:32:37 PM Launch Radio Networks reports: Former Led Zeppelin frontman Robert Plant released his new solo album, "Mighty Rearranger", on Tuesday, May 10. It's Plant's first outing on Sanctuary Records, and a step away from the major labels he's worked with in the past. But Plant says that these days a smaller company is the way to go. "Stay away from a major label," he told Launch. "You know, you've got to be able to deal with people who are telling the truth. You can't be in a position where, if things aren't happening for you within four weeks, you're history and you're left dangling forever. I know quite a few artists of my era who are in that position now, who just can't get away." Plant is accompanied on "Mighty Rearranger" by his latest band, the Strange Sensation. Well, is this what Axl is doing now? Trying to get away from the major label? I think what he's saying is that many bands are tied to particular labels on long-term multi-album deals, giving the labels exclusive rights to their artistic output - but that when the first album or two don't make a big splash, the bands are hung out to dry. The labels won't let them go in case they make a hit album for someone else, but the label also won't give them the funds to make a real attempt at an album. It seems to happen with every new musical trend, the labels run out and sign up every band related to that genre that they can, but once the bubble bursts on that trend, or once the label has three or four big earners in that genre, they put everyone else on the shelf. Of course, it applies even to big bands who are passed their money-making prime, once those record sales dip they can find themselves on the back-burner, for the same reasons. It's a situation motivated by greed, the label would rather you wither away and die than have a comeback with another label. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: nesquick on May 12, 2005, 04:28:05 PM GN'R and Led zeppelin are not of the same erea at all. Led Zeppelin is a 20 years older band than GN'R. It's like if you say Run DMC and Eminem belong to the same erea for rap music. It's a non-sense.
Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Butch Français on May 13, 2005, 12:31:22 PM In short Not the same Genre, at all, EVER!! Hell, GnR were probably inspired by bands that were inspired by Zepplin. What has this to do with the topic?? ??? Because Robert plant can't be refering to Axl, because Axl was like 10 or something when Zepplin started. Guns is not same era (or genre) as Zepplin.? period. Axl was about 7 years old when Zeppelin released their first record. and I don't agree with you that GN'R is heavy metal just because some clueless magazines say so. GN'R is hard rock, there is not a shred of metal in their sound.. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: nesquick on May 13, 2005, 01:32:10 PM saying Guns N' Roses is "Metal" is false. I see absolutely no ressemblance between Panthera,Sepultura or any other metal band and Guns N' Roses music. It's day and night. GN'R is Rock/Hard-Rock and sometimes even Blues-Rock. That's why they went so popular. Their sound is very "democratic", accessible, and I would say really unique. Metal music is much more extreme and much less accessible (it also really sucks in my opinion, I've always seen Metal as a joke, but whatever). It's not the same conception of music.
GN'R is Rock. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Neemo on May 13, 2005, 02:24:47 PM saying Guns N' Roses is "Metal" is false. I see absolutely no ressemblance between Panthera,Sepultura or any other metal band and Guns N' Roses music. It's day and night. GN'R is Rock/Hard-Rock and sometimes even Blues-Rock. That's why they went so popular. Their sound is very "democratic", accessible, and I would say really unique. Metal music is much more extreme and much less accessible (it also really sucks in my opinion, I've always seen Metal as a joke, but whatever). It's not the same conception of music. GN'R is Rock. OK, remember in 1990? When Duff and Slash accepted the American Music Awards for AFD? That was when they were swearing and shit on Live TV then GnR were subsequently banned from those same AMA's. (that was fuckin' funny :rofl: ) Does anyone remember that shit? Ok, well do you know/remember what category AFD was in? Thats right.... Best Heavy Metal Album. They also won for Best Heavy Metal Song that year, Paradise City. Now you can all think what you want, but, from someone who has followed the band from AFD till now, I'm tellin' ya, they were considered Heavy Metal. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: ppbebe on May 13, 2005, 03:08:15 PM :confused: Heavy Metal, Hair metal, Black metal, Death metal, Pop, Hard-Rock, Blues-Rock, Emo rock, Punk, Oy punk, Grunge, Goth, Alternative
and sometimes even Indus or Ganges The labeling buisiness sucks. Nay? nesquick. :hihi: Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Neemo on May 13, 2005, 03:15:56 PM :confused: Heavy Metal, Hair metal, Black metal, Death metal,? Pop, Hard-Rock,? Blues-Rock,? Emo rock, Punk, Oy punk, Grunge, Goth,? Alternative and sometimes even Indus or Ganges The labeling? buisiness sucks. Nay?? nesquick. :hihi: Don't forget "Gimme Some Reggae!!!" :rofl: "I'm just an old soul, still wet behind the ears" and I grew up with GnR bein' Heavy Metal, so thats what they are to me. I agree with Nesquick that they are nothing like Pantera (no "h" btw) or Sepultura, but if you consider those guys a joke you're messed, cause they can play the fuck out of their instruments, shit, Dimebag made Slash look like he was just learnin' how to play. It's ok if you don't like that style of music but don't judge something you don't know shit about. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: nesquick on May 13, 2005, 05:30:53 PM I never liked heavy-metal, I don't and I think I never will. It's just not my style, both in the music itself (the sound) and in a global conception of what music is about (the approach). What is the goal of heavy-metal bands? I mean, I don't understand. Is it to make the biggest noise possible? I don't see any interesting artistic approach in that kind of music. It's not a sincere music. For me, heavy-metal bands are to Rock music what hooligans are to football: something wrong.
When Elvis created Rock n' Roll, I don't think he was nowhere near of thinking heavy-metal will ever exist... It's a question of conception and approach about what music is about. And sincerely, it's not mine. Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: gandra on May 13, 2005, 05:54:20 PM saying Guns N' Roses is "Metal" is false. I see absolutely no ressemblance between Panthera,Sepultura or any other metal band and Guns N' Roses music. It's day and night. GN'R is Rock/Hard-Rock and sometimes even Blues-Rock. That's why they went so popular. Their sound is very "democratic", accessible, and I would say really unique. Metal music is much more extreme and much less accessible (it also really sucks in my opinion, I've always seen Metal as a joke, but whatever). It's not the same conception of music. GN'R is Rock. this is the ebst comparation about gnr rnr band and heavy metal!!! man great words Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: gandra on May 13, 2005, 05:58:23 PM saying Guns N' Roses is "Metal" is false. I see absolutely no ressemblance between Panthera,Sepultura or any other metal band and Guns N' Roses music. It's day and night. GN'R is Rock/Hard-Rock and sometimes even Blues-Rock. That's why they went so popular. Their sound is very "democratic", accessible, and I would say really unique. Metal music is much more extreme and much less accessible (it also really sucks in my opinion, I've always seen Metal as a joke, but whatever). It's not the same conception of music. GN'R is Rock. this is the ebst comparation about gnr rnr band and heavy metal!!! man great words Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: Butch Français on May 13, 2005, 10:42:27 PM I never liked heavy-metal, I don't and I think I never will. It's just not my style, both in the music itself (the sound) and in a global conception of what music is about (the approach). What is the goal of heavy-metal bands? I mean, I don't understand. Is it to make the biggest noise possible? I don't see any interesting artistic approach in that kind of music. It's not a sincere music. For me, heavy-metal bands are to Rock music what hooligans are to football: something wrong. When Elvis created Rock n' Roll, I don't think he was nowhere near of thinking heavy-metal will ever exist... It's a question of conception and approach about what music is about. And sincerely, it's not mine. I agree with you 100%, Ive never liked heavy metal either! fuck, ive never liked metal at all! it just sounds like pathetic crap to me! damn I hate metal, why don't you make REAL rock music while you at it?? Im a bit drunk now and I can understand people shredding this post to pieces.. just know that I will be back sober and ten times stronger tomorrow! :rant: :hihi: metal sucks! :yes: anyone up for a chant? Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: gandra on May 14, 2005, 02:12:50 AM I never liked heavy-metal, I don't and I think I never will. It's just not my style, both in the music itself (the sound) and in a global conception of what music is about (the approach). What is the goal of heavy-metal bands? I mean, I don't understand. Is it to make the biggest noise possible? I don't see any interesting artistic approach in that kind of music. It's not a sincere music. For me, heavy-metal bands are to Rock music what hooligans are to football: something wrong. When Elvis created Rock n' Roll, I don't think he was nowhere near of thinking heavy-metal will ever exist... It's a question of conception and approach about what music is about. And sincerely, it's not mine. I agree with you 100%, Ive never liked heavy metal either! fuck, ive never liked metal at all! it just sounds like pathetic crap to me! damn I hate metal, why don't you make REAL rock music while you at it?? Im a bit drunk now and I can understand people shredding this post to pieces.. just know that I will be back sober and ten times stronger tomorrow! :rant:? :hihi: metal sucks! :yes: anyone up for a chant? I like pure rnr,and gnr is last pure rnr band! Title: Re: Could Robert Plant be talking about Axl?? Post by: RustyCage on May 14, 2005, 09:27:15 PM I never liked heavy-metal, I don't and I think I never will. It's just not my style, both in the music itself (the sound) and in a global conception of what music is about (the approach). What is the goal of heavy-metal bands? I mean, I don't understand. Is it to make the biggest noise possible? I don't see any interesting artistic approach in that kind of music. It's not a sincere music. For me, heavy-metal bands are to Rock music what hooligans are to football: something wrong. When Elvis created Rock n' Roll, I don't think he was nowhere near of thinking heavy-metal will ever exist... It's a question of conception and approach about what music is about. And sincerely, it's not mine. Jeez, what a sucker! Black Sabbath are metal, and Ozzy is metal, are you saying that there is no achievement made by them? The Sex Pistols sucked (technically) but you can't ignore their impact on music. Punk Rock changed music. You sound like an old man with all of this "what is this loud music called heavy metal? It's just too noisy, im telling ya....these kids today are just wacky!" ::) |