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Title: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: mike_giuliana on May 11, 2005, 09:47:31 AM
If one could have been selected as a permanet new gnr player years back who would you have liked to see stay?


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: nesquick on May 11, 2005, 10:11:22 AM
None of them. Richard and Robin are complementary. 50/50. It's perfect like that. 2 guitars and 2 keyboards are enough. Why ruining the band's cohesion with a 3rd guitarist? The mistakes of 2002 (Buckethead) musn't be repeated.
Musically and humanely, the band seems cohesive now. That's the most important.


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: HK-47 on May 11, 2005, 10:42:26 AM
Of the two, I'd have preferred Zakk to stay. Not a big Navarro fan. 


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Wooody on May 11, 2005, 10:55:16 AM
none of them, Zakk is boring and Navarro is too much of a dumbass.


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Dayle1066 on May 11, 2005, 11:30:12 AM
At least zakk can rip ::)


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Butch Français on May 11, 2005, 12:43:06 PM
At least zakk can rip ::)

and Dave can't?
you can't have heard much Jane's Addiction!

I like Zakk, but damn it, Dave all the way!!
Dave is one of my top 4 fav guitarists!


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Falcon on May 11, 2005, 01:26:50 PM
A few months back Navarro played "Oh My God" on Camp Freddy Radio and talked about how back in the day he'd considered taking up Axl's offer to join GNR, pre OMG.

Later, after working with Axl for the recording of OMG, he said turning down the offer was the best professional decision he'd ever made.  He had no desire to ever work with a frontman who "phoned in instructions to me on how to play guitar".


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Dave_Rose on May 11, 2005, 03:44:49 PM
If I had to pick I'd pic Zakk I like Navaro he has a cool vibe but Zakk just shredds the guitar!


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Falcon on May 11, 2005, 04:07:26 PM
If I had to pick I'd pic Zakk I like Navaro he has a cool vibe but Zakk just shredds the guitar!

I'm the same way, love Navarro, he's fantastic a rock star.  However, I'd prefer Zakk if the opportunity ever arose again.  He'd definitely provide a shot of testosterone to the band.


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Mikkamakka on May 11, 2005, 04:19:19 PM
If the band had Slash, then I'd go with Dave, since he can enjoy himself playin' mostly rhythm. But without Slash, then I'd choose Zakk. He has an incredible talent, the man is a very skilled and interesting artist.  : ok:


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: HK-47 on May 11, 2005, 04:35:42 PM
At least zakk can rip ::)

and Dave can't?
you can't have heard much Jane's Addiction!

I like Zakk, but damn it, Dave all the way!!
Dave is one of my top 4 fav guitarists!

JA were okay, but Navarro's solo work is . . . completely forgettable. I owned his first solo album. I have no recollection of it, nor do I know where it went. Like Dave Navarro's chops, it simply faded out of existance.


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Dave_Rose on May 11, 2005, 04:36:44 PM
If I had to pick I'd pic Zakk I like Navaro he has a cool vibe but Zakk just shredds the guitar!

I'm the same way, love Navarro, he's fantastic a rock star.? However, I'd prefer Zakk if the opportunity ever arose again.? He'd definitely provide a shot of testosterone to the band.

Yeah Zakk to me just has the badass vibe to him!


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Butch Français on May 11, 2005, 07:53:24 PM
At least zakk can rip ::)

and Dave can't?
you can't have heard much Jane's Addiction!

I like Zakk, but damn it, Dave all the way!!
Dave is one of my top 4 fav guitarists!

JA were okay, but Navarro's solo work is . . . completely forgettable. I owned his first solo album. I have no recollection of it, nor do I know where it went. Like Dave Navarro's chops, it simply faded out of existance.

do you mean his only solo album, the one released in 2001?
JA were ok.....haha, don't think you've really heard that much, or ever gotten into the stuff you've heard.
they released a damn great album in 2003 you know..
people that are sceptical about his abilities to rip should check out JA songs like Ocean Size, Idiots Rule, No One's Leaving, Ain't No Right and Been Caught Stealing. : ok:


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Falcon on May 11, 2005, 08:49:10 PM
Like Dave Navarro's chops, it simply faded out of existance.

Pretty harsh words for one of the most influential players of the modern rock era, to each his own

For those who care, Dave's faded chops can be found here:

http://www.thepanicchannel.com/


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: W. Botaxl Rose on May 11, 2005, 08:50:07 PM
What was "Deconstruction"? I thought that was his solo cd or project & that was released way before 2001.

I'd take Zakk as lead guitarist for GnR cause I think he's more that style.

Also, what's up with Carmen Elektra auctioning off dates with her on Ebay? Do they have an open marriage or something? Thought that was weird.


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Falcon on May 11, 2005, 08:54:22 PM


Also, what's up with Carmen Elektra auctioning off dates with her on Ebay? Do they have an open marriage or something? Thought that was weird.

It's for charity.


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: W. Botaxl Rose on May 11, 2005, 08:59:45 PM
But still, don't u think it's odd? I mean, she's married. Maybe just find a hottie that's not married or something? I guess i'm old fashioned. :peace:


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Falcon on May 11, 2005, 09:06:02 PM
But still, don't u think it's odd? I mean, she's married. Maybe just find a hottie that's not married or something? I guess i'm old fashioned. :peace:

I don't think the winner's going to be, as Dave puts it "hit that shit" at the end of the night so it's all in good fun and for a good cause. : ok:


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: usurper on May 12, 2005, 06:22:52 AM
Navarro anyday


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: ClintroN on May 12, 2005, 06:24:26 AM
Navarro, a fuckin' ledgend



Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Butch Français on May 13, 2005, 12:49:08 PM
Like Dave Navarro's chops, it simply faded out of existance.

Pretty harsh words for one of the most influential players of the modern rock era, to each his own

For those who care, Dave's faded chops can be found here:

http://www.thepanicchannel.com/

yeah man, Im definately gonna get the album when it's released!
I love the Camp Freddy Radio, damn good radio show, there's a link to it at Dave's site www.6767.com  :peace:


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: HK-47 on May 13, 2005, 12:52:58 PM
Like Dave Navarro's chops, it simply faded out of existance.

Pretty harsh words for one of the most influential players of the modern rock era, to each his own

For those who care, Dave's faded chops can be found here:

http://www.thepanicchannel.com/
It doesn't take much bait to get this board biting :P


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Falcon on May 13, 2005, 01:01:19 PM

It doesn't take much bait to get this board biting :P

I find debunking the opinion stated as fact fodder around here to be like shooting fish in a barrel.

You're goofy statement was a whale in a goldfish bowl.


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: HK-47 on May 13, 2005, 01:07:18 PM

It doesn't take much bait to get this board biting :P

I find debunking the opinion stated as fact fodder around here to be like shooting fish in a barrel.

You're goofy statement was a whale in a goldfish bowl.
It's okay that you missed the point, and that you continue to miss the point. At least you're being consistant.



I'll give you a clue; It was jo*e ;)


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Falcon on May 13, 2005, 01:30:46 PM

I'll give you a clue; It was jo*e ;)

Hence the term "goofy" equating you're initial statement to a joke. ;D


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: HK-47 on May 13, 2005, 01:33:05 PM

I'll give you a clue; It was jo*e ;)

Hence the term "goofy" equating you're initial statement to a joke. ;D
Then I apologize for misreading your post  :)


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Falcon on May 13, 2005, 01:35:44 PM

I'll give you a clue; It was jo*e ;)

Hence the term "goofy" equating you're initial statement to a joke. ;D
Then I apologize for misreading your post? :)

All good here.


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Rob on May 13, 2005, 04:01:09 PM
I'll take Zakk anyday.  It's not even a contest.  His playing on his first couple Ozzy albums was great, and his playing on the BLS albums is frigging brilliant.  I've never heard anything done by Dave Navaro that I'd consider even remotely brilliant.  He's a slightly better than average guitarist with a way hotter than average wife.


Title: Re: zakk wylde or dave navaro
Post by: Butch Français on May 13, 2005, 10:24:39 PM

It doesn't take much bait to get this board biting :P

I find debunking the opinion stated as fact fodder around here to be like shooting fish in a barrel.

You're goofy statement was a whale in a goldfish bowl.
It's okay that you missed the point, and that you continue to miss the point. At least you're being consistant.



I'll give you a clue; It was jo*e ;)

yeah, haha, good one... ::)