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If the people supporting nugnr on this forum were true Axl's fans, wouldn't have they realized since a long time that the new band doesn't work, and what happened in 2002 would happen again if nugnr started a tour or released an album ?
It would be such a ridiculous flop that it would probably mean the end of Axl's career as a singer.

I'm a GN'R fan since 1990 and I thought the people who are supporting nugnr were Axl's fans. I don't see it like that anymore... These guys must be Stinson's or Finck's fans ! Because they would drive Axl to a total failure if he listened to them.
That's why I feel as a greater Axl's fan than many people who are constantly posting "Axl I love you" and despising a reunion.

Nevertheless, a reunion is the ONLY way (if you think that an album would bring more people to the concerts, you are fooling yourself) to bring Guns N'Roses back to life. People would attend the concerts and a new album with Slash, Duff and Izzy would not only be welcome by everybody, it would be a great EVENT. Except if you are a Stinson's or Finck's fan, of course.

Regards,



PS : Remember that Duff said (not a long time ago) that if Axl called him, he would always be there for him 'cause Axl will always be his brother.

you are ridiculous.

go jerk off to pictures of slash and dream of your reunion while this i'm sure gets moved to dead horse.

and yeah, i guess i'm fooling myself in thinking that one of the greatest records of all time might bring some more people to the shows.

Grow up.

Axl and Slash will always be the core of Guns N'Roses.

"One of the greatest records of all time"...With Oh My God and Silkworms and I.R.S. and Beduins on it ? :hihi:

The new band have yet to prove themeselves as a whole recording wise, I don't think it's fair on the old band to have their name stolen from them though afterall there are no guns left and only one rose.

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

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Pepe Da Rosa eats his own shit

and likes it!

Its an interesting perspective put forth, havent really thought of it that way

To me its an Axl project or experiment if you will - it remains to be seen how successful commercially it is. I could care less how much it sells, all I am hoping for is a brilliant piece of art. Im afraid nothing other than sheer brilliance will suffice because thats the standard that has been set by GNR in the past and this is further magnified given the ridiculous amount of time we've waited.

If GN'R were to reform with Slash, Izzy and Duff   :drool:(not too concerned about which drummer ,hell perhaps neither Sorum nor Adler, but someone new?) it would be a huge commercial success no doubt and with Izzy back on board we'd be assured of quality songs as well.

Pipi Da Reamer. True Story.

I totally agree. But it still hurts my heart when I associate in my mind these guys and the name "Guns N' Roses". There is something wrong. When I watch my Paris'92 video concert or Wembley'92 Freddy Mercury's concert, THAT was Guns N' Roses. I have no problem with current bandmembers, they are not to blame, they have had an opportunity to be hired and payed a lot of money by a genius (but crazy) Rockstar (Axl) and become famous, ok nobody would have rejected the offer, it's easy money. But to a certain extent, I will never forgive Axl. In his mind all is black or all is white. After a decade, the guy is still not able to "forgive" anything to anybody. It's too much. And it's not fair toward fans. Axl claimed several times that "[He] knows the truth", right, but he never convinced me when he tried to explain it. I laught my mind when I read once "they [the former bandmembers] wanted to kill me" (was it the RS interview? or the classic-rock one? I don't remember), I was embarassed for Axl, I call that paranoia. That's what it is. I know Slash and Duff do have their own part of responsability, ok, but come on they are not the devil. They are human beeings...aren't they?
I prefer to stop there, but...ok I stop now. I support Axl, I will buy CD when it comes out, I do think Axl was, is and will be the most talented person in GN'R, BUT I have my own concious. I'm not a blind fan. That's what I want to explain. I have a brain to think and to make my own point of vue.

OK, this is a dead horse topic, but the name calling will stop... right?

Good.

Pepe, you'll bite the dust.  >:(

 :P

The new band is so fucking interesting :P You never know what happens next. But yeah, old GnR is the only GnR  :smoking: No one, even a guy with a bucket in his head, cant make that band Guns n' Roses.

Agreed

Slash, Duff, Matt and so on are gone get over it, the times are changing! In this case it has changed!

Face it.
The chances of a reunion are slim to none. :P
Give the nu band a chance!!!
Slash and co have moved on, and maybe u should too. :rant:

Just a few quick questions in case you get barred too soon.
I keep failing to see any logic behind your opinions.

For instance,

1) Why you thought the people who supports the GN'R were only Axl's fans and why should they be? 
    I never see it that way because I'm not.
2) How do you know whether the band works or not?
3) What makes you think what happened in 2002 will happen again when the band starts a tour?
4) Or, How come it's possible that what happened in 2002 will happen again when GN'R releases an album?
    That's quite of a contradiction.
5) Why do you think Mr. Stinson's or Mr. Finck's fans would drive Axl to a total failure if he listened to them?
    and Why should it be a ridiculous flop? Why should it mean the end of Axl's career as a singer?

On What authority do you say these?
Is it just because you want to see it as a ridiculous flop and the end of Axl's career?


Mate, whatever you may feel, in reality you're just a spiteful naysayer despising the band, I reckon.  :yes:

I'm a mother goose fan of course. I haven't ever claimed to be an Axl fan.
Oh Take that or flying fuck!
Haven't you ever come upon the idea that there are fans of the music and the whole band?
Or are we, fans supposed to be a bunch of groupies or what?
Damn I never get idol worship mentality, especially when it's that possessive.

Chao! :wave:

Well, I think that some of what Pepe De Rosa is saying is true... although I'm not a NuGn'R hater, in fact I can't wait to see what Axl's done with the new stuff, BUT! I would LOVE to see a reunion! I would give ANYTHING to have them all be friends again! Its not right that a group of guys so close they were almost family were broken up because of some stupid row about music and compromisation (or whatever the right word for what I mean is :hihi:.). I agree though that the new band is not technically Guns N' Roses. Yea, Axl called it Guns N' Roses, but with only one original member remaining, I see it as "Axl and the Session Musicians".

BINGO!

Guns n' Roses are alive and well!!!!

What the hell is wrong with this guy  :-\ Posted that same line in several topics.

whats wrong with you :-\

Blaah.. Let's stop this now. You cant change my opinion, period. Your posts an PM's are getting ridiculous. You/we are getting way out of line.

Back in the real topic -->

yeah the real topic is that

all you hardcore new gnr haters, ya'll hate change - guns n' roses WAS the paris PPV show. it fell apart, and only two people cared enough about it to try and keep it going

Guns N' Roses, THE NAME ITSELF,  was never about the people in it. Guns N' Roses is a theme, an attitude, a fuck you we're gonna rock attitude, and it was and STILL is led by the ultimate "fuck you i'm gonna rock" frontman, one W. Axl Rose. I see the VR on the tele and i tell you, the attitude is fucking gone. they even admitted how badly they needed to form a group together to get paid. i mean what the fuck does that say about the music they wrote together? (let's throw an album together and get rich again!)

all you people still stuck in the 80's, early 90s, that's your thing, that's what you want to hold on to as Guns N' Roses.

some of us want to see what axl, who we believe to have always been the real heart and soul of guns n' roses (the attitude), the one who hasn't sold out to the man, the one who cares about FREEDOM THROUGH MUSICAL INTEGRITY, we want to see what he makes guns n' roses now.

Wow, I've seen some people suck Axl's you know what on this board, but you take the frigging cake buddy.  Axl's sold out just as much, if not more, than any of the VR guys.  Axl's the one who went all industrial back when that was the "cool" thing to be.  Now he's discovered that most people have realised industrial sucked, so now he's gone in another direction.  He's the one who keeps changing his sound to stay relevant to the times.  RainX, you are dillusional.

Does everyone have to keep insulting one another?? Are we all Guns N' Roses fans, or are we all NOT Guns N' Roses fans? I'll tell you one thing, if we weren't, then why the fuck would we want to be here?!
This site wouldn't be here without the fans, and the fans wouldn't be here without the band, so for FUCK'S SAKE!!! JUST QUIT BICKERING!!!
And Rob, RainX isn't delusional about Axl, he just wants to see him come back and take over the world again. AS DO I!!! And I am a HYOUNGE fan of the old band, and I get insanely upset whenever I think about what could have been if they'd stayed friends.... *sigh* BTW, Axl didn't "sell out", maybe he liked industrial to begin with, but then actually realized that it did in fact suck so he quit being influenced by it. I dunno! If you want to know, just disguise yourself as a plant and sneak into his house and ask him for yourself! Needless to say, he'll probably throw you rather unceremoniously out the door, set his hounds on you, and then sue you for stalking and harassing. Or... maybe if he's in a good mood, he'll do all those things, but give you your answer as well... maybe.
I just don't get why some people don't want to hear NuGnR, but... they're the ones who complain about the non-release of ChiDem constantly.

AXL DID NOT SELL OUT!! REPEAT! AXL ROSE DID NOT SELL OUT!!

Yeah, we're all GN'R fans here, but that doesn't mean we're gonna agree on everything.  If everybody on this board constantly agreed with one another then this shit would be pretty damn boring now wouldn't it?  I'd love to see Axl come back and take over the world, but as of right now it looks highly unlikely.  And if I were to sneak into Axl's house I wouldn't disguise myself as a plant.  I'd put a lamp shade over my head.

Theres only one way to find out  :peace: