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Title: Axl on Contraband
Post by: nick on May 06, 2005, 12:37:57 PM
Now we know that Axl's never commented on Contraband so we don't know what he thinks of it.  However, what does everyone think his thoughts are on the album, or even VR for that matter?

Its been said in many articles that Contraband is the CD GNR should have released after UYI.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: gandra on May 06, 2005, 12:41:11 PM
Now we know that Axl's never commented on Contraband so we don't know what he thinks of it.? However, what does everyone think his thoughts are on the album, or even VR for that matter?

Its been said in many articles that Contraband is the CD GNR should have released after UYI.

that isn't true.duff and Slash maybe said that,but we know who is the bos of guns n roses


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: C0ma on May 06, 2005, 12:51:28 PM
If Axl would have allowed Slash to use the material for the UYI follow-up that he wanted, instead of deciding that he wanted to make 'OK Computer' by Radiohead........ then FTP and Slither would have been released by GnR in 1994-95. I think that if that album was released, then Slash and Duff would have been more receptive to making an experimental album after (we probably would have had CD by 1999). I think that Slash and Duff gave up more ground then they wanted to in the making of the UYI albums, so they weren't going to budge another inch on the follow up. Unfortunately Axl wanted them to move further and further from their roots.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: Krispy Kreme on May 06, 2005, 01:01:13 PM
I think it would be awesome to hear Axl singing Sucker Train Blues, Fall to Pieces, You got no right, and Dirty little thing.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: gandra on May 06, 2005, 01:08:44 PM
I think it would be awesome to hear Axl singing Sucker Train Blues, Fall to Pieces, You got no right, and Dirty little thing.

agree with you,that would be awsome.
But it would be great to see how slash play on madagascar and the blues


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: C0ma on May 06, 2005, 01:29:12 PM
I think it's good Axl hasn't commented on Contraband because he would look ingnorant if he did.........
How can you comment on VR's CD when you can't make any statements about yours......... and what could he say?? VR has an album, an album that sells..


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: ppbebe on May 06, 2005, 01:45:14 PM
Axl said he wanted to produce it - so Slash heard from their mutual acquaintance.

Donno if he really said that but Slash did say this on radio.
Someone posted it here.

In any case he may have thought that it was not bad but could have been better.

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If Axl would have allowed Slash to use the material for the UYI follow-up that he wanted, instead of deciding that he wanted to make 'OK Computer' by Radiohead........

I haven't ever heard he wanted to produce 'OK Computer' by Radiohead too.

I think their roots were different to each other from the start.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: WARose on May 06, 2005, 01:48:41 PM
axl commented about slash`s snakepit in an interview from 99 or 2000 i think. he said something like " i like it, but i can`t see something like be the ball under the gnr name" and i think he`s totally right with what he said.

i don`t know what he thinks about contraband, but i don`t think he likes it that much....

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Its been said in many articles that Contraband is the CD GNR should have released after UYI.

i don`t like contraband that much and i think its not gnr`s style , so i think that is totally bullshit. the album that gnr should have released after UYI is chinese democracy.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: Mikkamakka on May 06, 2005, 01:52:03 PM
If Axl would have allowed Slash to use the material for the UYI follow-up that he wanted, instead of deciding that he wanted to make 'OK Computer' by Radiohead........ then FTP and Slither would have been released by GnR in 1994-95. I think that if that album was released, then Slash and Duff would have been more receptive to making an experimental album after (we probably would have had CD by 1999). I think that Slash and Duff gave up more ground then they wanted to in the making of the UYI albums, so they weren't going to budge another inch on the follow up. Unfortunately Axl wanted them to move further and further from their roots.

Good points.  : ok:

axl commented about slash`s snakepit in an interview from 99 or 2000 i think. he said something like " i like it, but i can`t see something like be the ball under the gnr name" and i think he`s totally right with what he said.

What about Silkworms?  :P


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: nick on May 06, 2005, 02:05:27 PM
its been said by who? have slash and/or duff said something like this ever??
It wasn't said by Slash, Duff or any other member of VR.? But I've seen lots of articles about Contraband that mention this.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: gandra on May 06, 2005, 02:08:14 PM
Now we know that Axl's never commented on Contraband so we don't know what he thinks of it.? However, what does everyone think his thoughts are on the album, or even VR for that matter?

Its been said in many articles that Contraband is the CD GNR should have released after UYI.

that isn't true.duff and Slash maybe said that,but we know who is the bos of guns n roses>1992 when they were the biggest band in the world,duff and slash din't talk bad thing about estranged and november rain.After that when stupid alt rock went to the top,they started to talked a shit about Axl and his way in music.

Buit now we have a different situation,people again starts to listen a good real music,guns n roses music


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: gandra on May 06, 2005, 02:09:19 PM
I think it would be awesome to hear Axl singing Sucker Train Blues, Fall to Pieces, You got no right, and Dirty little thing.

agree with you,that would be awsome.
But it would be great to see how slash play on madagascar and the blues.Can you imagine slash emotion in madagascar and the blues!!!Can you imagine axl ands alsh running on the stage


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on May 06, 2005, 03:29:38 PM
Now we know that Axl's never commented on Contraband so we don't know what he thinks of it.? However, what does everyone think his thoughts are on the album, or even VR for that matter?

Its been said in many articles that Contraband is the CD GNR should have released after UYI.

I am not gonna even try to read Axl`s mind on this.

But I could see Axl respecting VR`s music, but having the attitude of been there & done that as far as a sraight ahead rock record is concerned.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: 2NaFish on May 06, 2005, 03:37:54 PM
However, what does everyone think his thoughts are on the album, or even VR for that matter?

What do i think Axl's thoughts are?

Well, in keeping with the absurd nature of this thread i'm gonna say, i think axl loves VR and contraband and that the reason we've been kept waiting for CD is that he's scrapped all the other CD songs and is gonna concentrate on making a purely instrumental version of Contraband. Starting with loving the alien played on two saxophones and an Oboe.

What do i think axl's thoughts are?? Pfff.....


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: estranged.1098 on May 06, 2005, 03:45:04 PM
'It's Five O'Clock Somewhere' was supposed to be a GNR album, not Contraband.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: matt88 on May 06, 2005, 04:09:40 PM
I reckon Axl thinks Contrabands shithouse. But nah i couldnt see GN'R perfoming anything of Contraband...doesn't seem right


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: jabba2 on May 06, 2005, 05:05:58 PM
I wish i had the article now, but there was a short mention somwere that Axl was surprised by how much he liked Contraband, and it inspired him to re-record vocals for CD. Im not sure if that was the exact wording but it said Axl was surprised by it. On the old VR message board someone said that Axl likes Set Me Free. It was mentioned a couple times that Axl liked that particular song. This was before Contraband was released.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on May 06, 2005, 05:11:48 PM
I wish i had the article now, but there was a short mention somwere that Axl was surprised by how much he liked Contraband, and it inspired him to re-record vocals for CD. Im not sure if that was the exact wording but it said Axl was surprised by it. On the old VR message board someone said that Axl likes Set Me Free. It was mentioned a couple times that Axl liked that particular song. This was before Contraband was released.


No offense, but that sounds like first-rate bull-shit.  Axl isn't stupid enough to say something like that...and...I guess I have to thank god Contraband isn't what I've been waiting over 10 years for.  :)    The Blues, Madagascar, IRS, Riyadh and CD are what I've been waiting over 10 years for...(notice I didn't include Silkworms)  :)  Goddamn, I can't wait to hear these studio versions.   :love:   


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: Pandora on May 06, 2005, 05:22:39 PM
Axl never said such a thing (in public at least). As stated previously, the only comment he supposedly made was that he would have liked to produce it.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: ppbebe on May 06, 2005, 05:48:48 PM
On the old VR message board someone said that Axl likes Set Me Free. It was mentioned a couple times that Axl liked that particular song. This was before Contraband was released.
Then got bored after a week.....still before Contraband was released. :P

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Contraband is the CD GNR should have released after UYI.

Without Mr weiland's contribution Contraband wouldn't be Contraband.  : ok:


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: HK-47 on May 07, 2005, 04:13:10 AM
I'll take a stab at reading Axl's mind on Contraband;

If he wins the court case: "I like some of it, but it's not really my thing."

If he loses the court case: "Fuck you."

If CD sells a few million copies: "Velvet who? Piece of shit."

If CD fails/ is never released: "I think we'll do a couple of tracks from it on the reunion tour, they're being fed into the autocue as we speak."



Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: St.heathen on May 07, 2005, 04:54:02 AM
You can't just presume he doesn't like it just because they are ex-members of his band.  The fans on the internet have created this "vs" thing and talk about how Axl feels but you simply don't know.  I think your as bad as the press for always presuming a negative response from him.

He was in a band with these guys for years and  i'm sure as a musician and a music  fan, he can see what he likes and doesn't like about VR just as we can.   People presume the worst because it fits their argument in this fan division thing.    And the ex members only have a remaining problem with him because he kept the GNR name. So i really don't think they are throwing darts at each others pics lol

He may be a fan of Scott Weilands work, they have alot of the same influences.
Personally i think Axl would be able to see the potential they have as much as we can.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: usurper on May 07, 2005, 05:08:09 AM

i havent heard it yet becoz i dont want to coz slash/duff/etc  can fuck off... i


Thats probably what he said!  :hihi:


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: ClintroN on May 07, 2005, 05:58:01 AM
Now we know that Axl's never commented on Contraband so we don't know what he thinks of it.  However, what does everyone think his thoughts are on the album, or even VR for that matter?

Its been said in many articles that Contraband is the CD GNR should have released after UYI.

Axl doesnt need the public to hear his thoughts or opinion's on shit.

But when CHINESE DEMOCRACY gets released, a betcha we hear all kinds of shit from the ex-members!!!

Contraband as gunners...............NO FUCKING WAY!!!!! ::)


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: St.heathen on May 07, 2005, 06:13:20 AM
Now we know that Axl's never commented on Contraband so we don't know what he thinks of it.? However, what does everyone think his thoughts are on the album, or even VR for that matter?

Its been said in many articles that Contraband is the CD GNR should have released after UYI.

Axl doesnt need the public to hear his thoughts or opinion's on shit.

But when CHINESE DEMOCRACY gets released, a betcha we hear all kinds of shit from the ex-members!!!

Contraband as gunners...............NO FUCKING WAY!!!!! ::)

Axl would be asked for his opinion if he actually gave interviews. We only hear the ex-members opinions because they do speak, they are active and people want to know their opinions.



Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: nick on May 07, 2005, 10:29:39 AM
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But when CHINESE DEMOCRACY gets released, a betcha we hear all kinds of shit from the ex-members!!!

Slash has said in interviews that Axl should just get the CD out there.? He's curious to see what it'll sounds like.? He also states that Axl is a genuis and Chinese Democracy will be brilliant.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: Butch Français on May 07, 2005, 11:12:57 AM
Now we know that Axl's never commented on Contraband so we don't know what he thinks of it.? However, what does everyone think his thoughts are on the album, or even VR for that matter?

Its been said in many articles that Contraband is the CD GNR should have released after UYI.

Axl doesnt need the public to hear his thoughts or opinion's on shit.

But when CHINESE DEMOCRACY gets released, a betcha we hear all kinds of shit from the ex-members!!!

Contraband as gunners...............NO FUCKING WAY!!!!! ::)

well, that's also when we'll hear Axl's opinion on VR.
I don't think you'll hear much crap from the ex-members as far as the music goes, it seems they all have great respect for Axl as a musician. but there might be some more ripping about him using the GN'R name. and I can definately understand that!
I also think Axl liked Contraband, based partly on his supposed "I wish I had produced it" comment.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: AxlStaleyWeiland on May 07, 2005, 11:14:05 AM
I wish i had the article now, but there was a short mention somwere that Axl was surprised by how much he liked Contraband, and it inspired him to re-record vocals for CD. Im not sure if that was the exact wording but it said Axl was surprised by it. On the old VR message board someone said that Axl likes Set Me Free. It was mentioned a couple times that Axl liked that particular song. This was before Contraband was released.


No offense, but that sounds like first-rate bull-shit.? Axl isn't stupid enough to say something like that...and...I guess I have to thank god Contraband isn't what I've been waiting over 10 years for.? :)? ? The Blues, Madagascar, IRS, Riyadh and CD are what I've been waiting over 10 years for...(notice I didn't include Silkworms)? :)? Goddamn, I can't wait to hear these studio versions.? ?:love:? ?
I wasnt waiting 10 yrs for Contraband, I only waited approx. 1 year since they formed the band got it rolling, etc. ?Ill take Contraband and blast that badass record and laugh at those who have nothing but continued silence from the supposed "genious"


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: AxemanOnFire on May 07, 2005, 11:29:23 AM
was that he would have liked to produce it.
I'm glad he didn't!

Duff: "Axl is working on Contraband as we speak and it is going to be released around November 2017..."


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 12:13:23 PM
I wish i had the article now, but there was a short mention somwere that Axl was surprised by how much he liked Contraband, and it inspired him to re-record vocals for CD. Im not sure if that was the exact wording but it said Axl was surprised by it. On the old VR message board someone said that Axl likes Set Me Free. It was mentioned a couple times that Axl liked that particular song. This was before Contraband was released.


No offense, but that sounds like first-rate bull-shit.? Axl isn't stupid enough to say something like that...and...I guess I have to thank god Contraband isn't what I've been waiting over 10 years for.? :)? ? The Blues, Madagascar, IRS, Riyadh and CD are what I've been waiting over 10 years for...(notice I didn't include Silkworms)? :)? Goddamn, I can't wait to hear these studio versions.? ?:love:? ?
I wasnt waiting 10 yrs for Contraband, I only waited approx. 1 year since they formed the band got it rolling, etc. ?Ill take Contraband and blast that badass record and laugh at those who have nothing but continued silence from the supposed "genious"

I really agree with what you said.. I also think axl would sound really good on a few songs mentioned to be covered off contraband.. Waiting for about 7 years you expect great music, if it was 1999 all over again and the music was something like tho boot swe have heard I would have been satisfied.. It would have been not just about the new songs but seeing axl perform.. As for axl, I don't know what he'd say, but he has a wide range of taste in music so I'm sure he likes and silikes some songs..


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: chineseblues on May 07, 2005, 12:42:51 PM
Axl never said such a thing (in public at least). As stated previously, the only comment he supposedly made was that he would have liked to produce it.

Yeah but remember that came from the guy who said Axl only got vocals done on 2 songs  :rofl:


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: AxlFink on May 07, 2005, 01:48:37 PM
contraband would have sucked as a gnr cd
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Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: D on May 07, 2005, 02:22:26 PM
thats one thing i can really admire axl for, he hasnt commented on Contraband but yet the old band can comment on Chinese Democracy when they havent heard it, what did slash say about only 2 songs or something being done?


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: Naupis on May 07, 2005, 02:33:48 PM
The only reason Axl hasn't publicly commented on Contraband is because it would open him up to the "at least those guys are making music" type comments.

And what is he really going to say......even if he secretly really like it do you think we are going to get anything other than the "this just proves those guys needed me more than I need them" type of propaganda.

Just as when CD comes out does anyone really think we are going to hear Slash or Duff say, "Yeah, you know what, all that stuff really is better than any riff or note we ever wrote. Good thing he got himself a new line-up because we were obviously inferior."

Of course not. Both sides have an agenda and want to promote their currrent band and projects. Axl can't rip Contraband right now because he refuses to release music. If he ever does, then he will undoubtedly start teeing off unless CD isn't doing well with the public.....at which Axl's opinions will be irrelevant.


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 02:38:33 PM
contraband would have sucked as a gnr cd
.
put axl's voice on anything and people would love it here.. Did you see the craziness over a shitty 32 second audio. Axl could definetly sing some of the songs on CB and it would be great.. I do agree cb would suck as a new gnr album now because expectations and everyone's arguments are about how it's taking forever because he's making a superior album..


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: jarmo on May 07, 2005, 02:43:06 PM
put axl's voice on anything and people would love it here..

Probably. Because they'd have a different singer and different lyrics.

I don't think all the songs from "Contraband" would've made a GN'R record if the old band were still together....




/jarmo


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: DemocracyRose on May 07, 2005, 05:58:37 PM
Axl will not say anything about Contraband in the near future, because he doesnt want to promote it....


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on May 07, 2005, 05:59:37 PM
'It's Five O'Clock Somewhere' was supposed to be a GNR album, not Contraband.


Beat me to it


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: mike_giuliana on May 07, 2005, 06:10:33 PM
So let me understand axl just let slash take the new gnr album and make it a snakepit album.. How is that possible..? A lot of gnr fans like TSI and a lot of us might not have been big punk fans but we wound up enjoying it anyways.. Point is if something like the first snakepit album was sung by axl all the haters would be loving it because axl's voice was on it.. I would have taken the first snakepit album in `1995 by gnr anyday.. I am sure the lyrics would have been slightly different if it was a gnr album..  I was never crazy about dover... Axl singing it would have been good..


Title: Re: Axl on Contraband
Post by: jarmo on May 07, 2005, 06:13:04 PM
So let me understand axl just let slash take the new gnr album and make it a snakepit album.. How is that possible..?


No. I believe he didn't want to use the songs as they were, he probably thought there were cool ideas in there, but they probably needed to be worked on.

Slash took that as a "no" and recorded the songs on his own.

Something like that.



/jarmo