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Title: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: coolman78SLASH on May 04, 2005, 04:15:37 AM
There are a couple of mentiones on todays 20 questions with Death Angels guitarist Ted Aguilar:
In "rate this guitarists on a scale from 1 to 10" he says: "Slash = Oh, dude. I?d give that guy a 10. And the top hat a 15." , and on the "What ?rock star? deserves a smack in the mouth and why?"-question he says: "Oh, man. To tell you the truth? Axl. I mean, I don?t know when Chinese Democracy?s coming out, but you know, it seems like the guy?s got issues. I think he should just bury the hatchet with everything and everyone, and just get the original Guns N? Roses Appetite For Destruction lineup back together and just get out there and start rockin?, ?cause that?s when they were at their best. That would be huge? very huge!" Basically that's what been said by many in the metal and rock comunity, and this aint nothing exciting to us here on the board, I just tought I'd let you all see it.
The link to this interview is:
http://www.metalsludge.tv/main/index.php?module=subjects&func=viewpage&pageid=986


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: thejungle on May 04, 2005, 04:32:02 AM
honestly, axl rose is the most popular choice for people to want to smack in the mouth on 20 questions, its ridiculous!


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: Pandora on May 04, 2005, 05:37:19 AM
Wow, that guy is so original. Gotta admire the creativity.


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: Wooody on May 04, 2005, 06:15:53 AM
FUCK THE REUNION !


I want the new GNR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :peace:


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: mick on May 04, 2005, 09:03:48 AM
honestly, axl rose is the most popular choice for people to want to smack in the mouth on 20 questions, its ridiculous!

But not undeserved.



Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: coolman78SLASH on May 04, 2005, 09:10:24 AM
Yeah I have to admit it, it starting to get a little old to always answer Axl on that questions, Im sure if you check all the past interviews 60-70% says Axl to that question...  But maybe that says more about Axl's effort to release the album than it says about the people saying that about him?


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: jarmo on May 04, 2005, 09:55:29 AM
Go watch your old DVDs if you're wanting the old band back.




/jarmo


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: HK-47 on May 04, 2005, 10:07:14 AM
FUCK THE REUNION !


I want the new GNR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :peace:


FUCK THE FAKE !!!


I want GUNS N'ROSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :peace:

FUCK THE ARGUMENTS!!!


I want to be able to recognize the merits, virtues and flaws of any given line-up of GNR without having to put up with pointless bickering over which version of the band has the biggest dick.


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on May 04, 2005, 11:38:03 AM
Honestly Axl should do exactly what that guys explains...  join the whole original band together and bury the hatchet... No matter how much time there is been spent... Axl might reach the peek of any chart if he goes back with  slash and the guys, perhaps not with steven hehe....


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: C0ma on May 04, 2005, 12:07:07 PM
I think that the reason Axl is such a popular answer to that question lies in the background of the person being asked.

Think about it, at one time Guns N' Roses were the biggest band in the world. How many people can say that they were a member of the biggest band in the world? just a handful....... How many people aspire to be in the biggest band in the world? every member of every garage band going...

The people being interviewed by metal sludge arent exactly Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, it's usually the rythym guitarist for a band called "Blood Clot" or something like that. To someone who is just lucky to have his name in a rag like metal sludge it must be difficult to see someone like Axl who had everything (For Christs' Sake, he was the crown price of Rock and Roll) and just throw it away like that. These people scratch and claw just to get a minor record deal, if they can play infront of more than a few hundred people it's the highlight of their career...... Five years into Guns N' Roses Axl and Izzy were on stage with the Rolling Stones, while the members of "Blood Clot" might not be able to afford 5 tickets to a Rolling Stones show.

I just think it has to pain someone who fights and fights just to fail commercially to have to watch some one like Axl.


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentions on metalsludge
Post by: C0ma on May 04, 2005, 12:37:56 PM
i have to agree that most of artists interviewed there arent huge but i dont think the dude from death angel has something specific to win if he ll bury axl! i just think that he says exactly what he believes... death angel btw its a cult thrash band, just to let ya know? :-*

I don;t think he has anything to gain from bashing Axl, I just think that he is saying what is on his mind. Like I said members of smaller less successfull bands must get aggrivated watching Axl's actions of the last 11 years.

thanks for the cute little death angel tid bit, but "Cult" stands for no more than 1000 rabid fans gives a shit about them. Less people know the band Death Angel exists than have seen Axl live at a single concert.


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: gilld1 on May 04, 2005, 12:42:01 PM
Why is it when a person criticizes Axl for something, it's the person's fault or deffect and not Axl's.  Maybe people would like to smack him in the face because he is an asshole or maybe it's because he had such a shot to be the biggest ever and he blew it.  It's not just the fame that anger people about Axl, you don't see Bono topping any list to get smacked in the face. 


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: noonespecial on May 04, 2005, 12:52:04 PM
"Why is it when a person criticizes Axl for something, it's the person's fault or deffect and not Axl's."

Do You Know Where the F*ck you are?!  Axl's not accountable for anything on this board! LOL! I get your point and agree with it, but you may be in for some "fan-ish Idolization" comments....


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: gilld1 on May 04, 2005, 01:06:52 PM
Yeah, I expect some nast reactions but oh well.  I am a big GNR fan, have been for more than half my life but c'mon, Axl is the eye of this storm.  Like it or not, anything that goes wrong with GNR is AXL'S Fault.  It sure as hell is not Tommy's fault or Dizzy or whoever.  This has become a one man band with a bunch of hired musicians.  Axl does it all and tells the rest how and what to play.  I do love the music of this band but I keep a realistic perpsective on things.  I owe no allegience to Axl considering this whole mess is his to clean up. 


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: HK-47 on May 04, 2005, 01:38:58 PM
It's not just the fame that anger people about Axl, you don't see Bono topping any list to get smacked in the face.?

Bono tops my list. He's the only person on my list.


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: Evolution on May 04, 2005, 02:03:35 PM
Look at it positively, at least people are still talking about Axl and the release of CD


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on May 04, 2005, 06:40:20 PM
honestly, axl rose is the most popular choice for people to want to smack in the mouth on 20 questions, its ridiculous!

Yeah but I dont think their is a Musician out there man enough to try and literally smack "Crazy Axl"


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentions on metalsludge
Post by: C0ma on May 04, 2005, 11:00:39 PM

thanks for the cute little death angel tid bit, but "Cult" stands for no more than 1000 rabid fans gives a shit about them. Less people know the band Death Angel exists than have seen Axl live at a single concert.


lol yes, u are absolutely right but can u just comprehend 'that' cult doesnt mean mainstream necessarily?
leave the objectived nouns behind, will ya?? :-*

Yes I understand cult, but you are deluted if you think that the guitar player from Death Angel would rather be a 'cult' thrash metal icon to 3000 people than the guitar player for the #1 band on the planet. Metal Sludge doesn't tend to interview anyone who has a shot at reaching the level Axl reached then eventually dropped from. Every person they ask that question to must want to throw up when they think about what Axl had and threw away......... It's what they shoot for and will never get


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: Walk on May 04, 2005, 11:56:06 PM
I think it's interesting how thrash metal legends actually like GnR! And I understand where he's coming from. If Death Angel can make a comeback like that, than GnR can, too. I liked this interview.


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: Tied-Up on May 05, 2005, 01:42:30 AM
Axl has always been the favorite rock star to bash, whether it be a tabloid or has been or wannabe rock star.  I attribute that to several factors:
1.  Jealousy - Let's face it, rockers get into the business to be successful.  While they may not all be financially driven, the rockers still have dreams of making it, you don't want to be a garage band your whole life.  Axl was at the top of the heap for a while, and even after 12 years of no album, can still get the big guys (ie:  MTV) to roll out the red carpet for them.   
2.  Disgruntled Fan Syndrome - they're displacing their anger over the breakup of one of their favorite bands.
3.  Because Axl chooses to live his life the way he sees fit, rather than live it for someone else.  This is a part of the disgruntled fan syndrome.   Many fans think that their stars owe them something, and when they don't get what it is they think they are entitled to, they lash back.

The Sludge 20 questions usually also includes the question:  What band should call it a day?  How many of these wannabes/has beens would say GnR ... IF the original line up had stayed together and were churning out records every couple of years?



Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: gandra on May 05, 2005, 02:48:59 AM
There are a couple of mentiones on todays 20 questions with Death Angels guitarist Ted Aguilar:
In "rate this guitarists on a scale from 1 to 10" he says: "Slash = Oh, dude. I?d give that guy a 10. And the top hat a 15." , and on the "What ?rock star? deserves a smack in the mouth and why?"-question he says: "Oh, man. To tell you the truth? Axl. I mean, I don?t know when Chinese Democracy?s coming out, but you know, it seems like the guy?s got issues. I think he should just bury the hatchet with everything and everyone, and just get the original Guns N? Roses Appetite For Destruction lineup back together and just get out there and start rockin?, ?cause that?s when they were at their best. That would be huge? very huge!" Basically that's what been said by many in the metal and rock comunity, and this aint nothing exciting to us here on the board, I just tought I'd let you all see it.
The link to this interview is:
http://www.metalsludge.tv/main/index.php?module=subjects&func=viewpage&pageid=986

man you're right


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: mick on May 05, 2005, 11:39:10 AM
... IF the original line up had stayed together and were churning out records every couple of years?



Nope, and that is the point.



Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: coolman78SLASH on May 06, 2005, 10:05:45 AM
There are a couple of mentiones on todays 20 questions with Death Angels guitarist Ted Aguilar:
In "rate this guitarists on a scale from 1 to 10" he says: "Slash = Oh, dude. I?d give that guy a 10. And the top hat a 15." , and on the "What ?rock star? deserves a smack in the mouth and why?"-question he says: "Oh, man. To tell you the truth? Axl. I mean, I don?t know when Chinese Democracy?s coming out, but you know, it seems like the guy?s got issues. I think he should just bury the hatchet with everything and everyone, and just get the original Guns N? Roses Appetite For Destruction lineup back together and just get out there and start rockin?, ?cause that?s when they were at their best. That would be huge? very huge!" Basically that's what been said by many in the metal and rock comunity, and this aint nothing exciting to us here on the board, I just tought I'd let you all see it.
The link to this interview is:
http://www.metalsludge.tv/main/index.php?module=subjects&func=viewpage&pageid=986

man you're right


What am I right about?


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: Elrothiel on May 06, 2005, 12:26:24 PM
Axl has always been the favorite rock star to bash, whether it be a tabloid or has been or wannabe rock star. I attribute that to several factors:
1. Jealousy - Let's face it, rockers get into the business to be successful. While they may not all be financially driven, the rockers still have dreams of making it, you don't want to be a garage band your whole life. Axl was at the top of the heap for a while, and even after 12 years of no album, can still get the big guys (ie: MTV) to roll out the red carpet for them.
2. Disgruntled Fan Syndrome - they're displacing their anger over the breakup of one of their favorite bands.
3. Because Axl chooses to live his life the way he sees fit, rather than live it for someone else. This is a part of the disgruntled fan syndrome. Many fans think that their stars owe them something, and when they don't get what it is they think they are entitled to, they lash back.

The Sludge 20 questions usually also includes the question: What band should call it a day? How many of these wannabes/has beens would say GnR ... IF the original line up had stayed together and were churning out records every couple of years?



Yep,  nice post Tied-Up. There's also:
4: Bitter Ex Band Member Syndrome, which is what Slash has. Yes, he has VR now, but methinks he knows that they'll never be as great as Gn'R were, and he's bitter about it. He was bitter before VR, because he thought "Fuck, I was in the biggest band in the world, and now I'm not!" so then he decides to get revenge by talking shit about Axl in the rags and papers.



Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: C0ma on May 06, 2005, 12:45:20 PM
Yep,? nice post Tied-Up. There's also:
4: Bitter Ex Band Member Syndrome, which is what Slash has. Yes, he has VR now, but methinks he knows that they'll never be as great as Gn'R were, and he's bitter about it. He was bitter before VR, because he thought "Fuck, I was in the biggest band in the world, and now I'm not!" so then he decides to get revenge by talking shit about Axl in the rags and papers.


That makes no sense. Slash never attacked Axl before VR, and right now VR is an active functioning successful band. Axl on the other hand has released one song, leaked one song, and played 27 shows total since 1994 (why would Slash attack him to get attention??, Slash is the popular one right now). Remember Axl is also the one that banned Slash from the Las Vegas gig, Axl is also the one who launched into his rants durring the 2002 tour about "his other freinds"............ That were all unsollicited rants and attacks from Axl. Everyone seems to think that SLash is on a constant smear campain against Axl, when the reality is the only time Axl's name was mentioned was durring the press junkets for Contraband, and that is only because they were asked about Axl (which is his own fault for making the press go to former members looking for info on what he's doing), alot of the "AxlBashing" could have been stoped by him maybe releasing info about the CD more that once every few years thru cryptic press releases.


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: PeterCoffin on May 06, 2005, 09:47:50 PM
I think that the reason Axl is such a popular answer to that question lies in the background of the person being asked.

Think about it, at one time Guns N' Roses were the biggest band in the world. How many people can say that they were a member of the biggest band in the world? just a handful....... How many people aspire to be in the biggest band in the world? every member of every garage band going...

The people being interviewed by metal sludge arent exactly Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, it's usually the rythym guitarist for a band called "Blood Clot" or something like that. To someone who is just lucky to have his name in a rag like metal sludge it must be difficult to see someone like Axl who had everything (For Christs' Sake, he was the crown price of Rock and Roll) and just throw it away like that. These people scratch and claw just to get a minor record deal, if they can play infront of more than a few hundred people it's the highlight of their career...... Five years into Guns N' Roses Axl and Izzy were on stage with the Rolling Stones, while the members of "Blood Clot" might not be able to afford 5 tickets to a Rolling Stones show.

I just think it has to pain someone who fights and fights just to fail commercially to have to watch some one like Axl.

Also, the people who want the old band back are usually narrow-minded "ROCK AND ROCK ONLY!" idiots.


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: AxlStaleyWeiland on May 06, 2005, 11:36:38 PM
thats absurd, millions would rather have the old GNR back, from casual rock fans, to the diehard fans, etc, most of those who are even aware of the new lineup think its a joke, I love the orig. lineup and the new GNR songs Maddy, Blues, IRS, and Chi Dem but whenever I mention the current GNR it seems like I always get a laugh about how lame Axl's image, his hired replacements, and his inability to release any new material. The VMA's were a disaster for Axl, most likely forever tainting the Guns N' Roses name


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: AxlStaleyWeiland on May 06, 2005, 11:50:03 PM
I think that the reason Axl is such a popular answer to that question lies in the background of the person being asked.

Think about it, at one time Guns N' Roses were the biggest band in the world. How many people can say that they were a member of the biggest band in the world? just a handful....... How many people aspire to be in the biggest band in the world? every member of every garage band going...

The people being interviewed by metal sludge arent exactly Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, it's usually the rythym guitarist for a band called "Blood Clot" or something like that. To someone who is just lucky to have his name in a rag like metal sludge it must be difficult to see someone like Axl who had everything (For Christs' Sake, he was the crown price of Rock and Roll) and just throw it away like that. These people scratch and claw just to get a minor record deal, if they can play infront of more than a few hundred people it's the highlight of their career...... Five years into Guns N' Roses Axl and Izzy were on stage with the Rolling Stones, while the members of "Blood Clot" might not be able to afford 5 tickets to a Rolling Stones show.

I just think it has to pain someone who fights and fights just to fail commercially to have to watch some one like Axl.

Also, the people who want the old band back are usually narrow-minded "ROCK AND ROCK ONLY!" idiots.
what?LMAO!  Narrow minded? So millions of old GNR fans are narrow minded for wanting back the band responsible for an array of incredible songs(WTTJ,SCOM,ParCity,NovRain,DontCry,etc) ? the select few who prefer the new GNR based on the small number of live bootlegs they've heard or the disastrous tour are the narrow minded ones.


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: Litti10 on May 07, 2005, 10:45:40 AM
Original lineup will never happen but a lineup that just might have a chance is Axl,Slash,duff,Matt,Dizzy and Fortus :o. Coz i dont think that Izzy or Gilby would join agen!


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: AxlStaleyWeiland on May 07, 2005, 10:59:05 AM
Original lineup will never happen but a lineup that just might have a chance is Axl,Slash,duff,Matt,Dizzy and Fortus :o. Coz i dont think that Izzy or Gilby would join agen!
I dont think Axl will ever play w/ Matt again, called him an albatross among other things, Matt has probably talked the most shit about Axl among the ex members


Title: Re: GnR,C.D,AXL, SLASH mentiones on metalsludge
Post by: mick on May 08, 2005, 11:52:56 AM
thats absurd, millions would rather have the old GNR back, from casual rock fans, to the diehard fans, etc, most of those who are even aware of the new lineup think its a joke, I love the orig. lineup and the new GNR songs Maddy, Blues, IRS, and Chi Dem but whenever I mention the current GNR it seems like I always get a laugh about how lame Axl's image, his hired replacements, and his inability to release any new material. The VMA's were a disaster for Axl, most likely forever tainting the Guns N' Roses name


Top 3 reasons Axl has a problem :
1) and his inability to release any new material
2) and his inability to release any new material
3) and his inability to release any new material