Here Today... Gone To Hell!

According to Sp1at.com    merck says 2005.       Novemeber most likely.   Get ready folks its either the album or we kill merck!

Deathrow??? :nervous:

Wow! Killing The Godfather. That's gonna be tough...

Who the hell is the Godfather?

Suge Knight can get Axl off his arse.

November is my birthday month!!!

Can you dig that SUCKA!

what the fuck is up with this board?

Diz board izt the snizzle, mofo.

Axl iz da pimp.

Anyone got a Federline to English Dictionary?

I don't know what the hell happened to this board, but it's fucking funny as hell. FO SHIZZLE MAH NIZZLE!  :rofl:

Deathrow Records is coming back? That'd be Snoop and Ice Cube right?  :P

what is tha godfather and deathrow? merck geffen ???

ok tha godfather is m erck

It's getting worse n worse. :headscratch:

So... to sum up,

t h e West Coast posse announced  t hat T h e Death row reaffirmes  th e  r e l e a s e  o f  th e criminals  t his yr pbly November . o r  they are hanging T h e Godfather a n d a knight already asked Tha Pimpfather to dig stg( pbly a grave)?

Chinese Democracy in November maybe...

This board is killing me.

Ok let's try this again.? Is this board back to normal?? Qu'est ce qui se passe si je parle fran?ais?

haha,,, you mean sancutuary not death row.

Here Ill decode it.    S a n c t u a r y = deathrow              the godfather =   m e r c k     s p l a t  = westcoast posse


srry my orginal post didnt make sense cause of this wanker talk but hope u can figure it out now.

what does all this really mean anyway? :smoking:

according to m e r c k  and s a n c u t u a r y   the album will be out in the last quarter of the year most likey november there sayin.

sounds good.. i aint holdin my breath but some word's better than none at all..

Axl
Merck
Sanctuary
GnR
kevin federline

bout' time we says hello to ma little friend

What is with this board?

I don`t think financially they want CD in the can for too much longer.

This board cracks me up!  :hihi:

Until Axl says it himself - it is B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.

Thats why we should hold merck to his word.  He has said this countless times. I mean for fuckssakes hes there manager. 2005 it better be as merck u have said.

november rain???
i hope its the end of our waiting

If merck is full of shit, I think that would call for an upside down crucifixtion. Whether its his fault or not.

Someone has to share in our suffering. lol   :peace:

Don't be shocked if at this time next year we have a "Sanctuary Reaffirms 2006" thread.

Ok here we go again, but lets say that it WILL be out in November of 2005 just for shits and giggles.  When would we first here something?  A statement? A release date? A single?

July?   August?   September? 

Your a little negative ent ya dude?

Sorry if I sound like a stuck record but there are way to many negative people out there! Surely if thats how you feel about things, you dont need to post comments like that? When people are trying to read good stuff about the band. Surely you can just keep it to yourself until the album comes out, and then you will have nothing to be negative about!

Why? Did Sanctuary ever affirmed a 2004, 2003... release? HELL NO!

Did Merck ever lie to us? HELL NO!

Indeed. I think some guys are here just to say something if the album fails to be released... Like "I told you so".  :no:
But hey, let' me believe. We don't want someone bitching about it in every thread, there's a frustation thread in Dead Horse. :rant:

Id at least hope to have some kind of positive news/outlook for fall during the summer months, but I wont hold out for a press release or official statement until lst week of August/mid-September.

Mayyyyyyyyyyyyy.  :D

Why would Sanctuary tell this to Sp1at and no one else? Because no one else is asking? Or because sp1at is just full og shit!  ???

Merck said it several times already, and then yes, we asked him again to reaffirm it.

I think some people should take as step back and read this news for what it is.? The CEO of Sanctuary, Gn'R's management company is saying 2005 is the year for Guns N' Roses.? That hasn't happened before, and as well all know, in the world of Gn'R, anything can change.? But, we do know they are planning on making this year the year, and based on other info we all know about, we can speculate that it'll be a 4th quarter release, probably in Nov.

That's what the news is.? Sanctuary is currently planning on making things happen this year, and are confident enough that it'll happen that their CEO has publically stated it. That's it - no bullshit, and we all know there's a chance it won't happen anyway.

If Axl had a sense of humour he would release it in September.

Whay would that be funny?

This is my "theory":


Merck: W, Axl Rose is not interested in fame, money, popularity or what the New York Times or any other paper for that matter might think of him. His only interest is making the best album he is capable of so that it can have a positive affect in 2005 on people who are enthusiasts of music and interested in Guns N' Roses. ?
Letter to the NY Times, March 6th, 2005

sp1at: 2005? Really?

Merck: Yes.

 :D

Then that was made into a news story...... Just my theory.




/jarmo

That's accurate.  Merck was asked again if they're still pushing forward with the intent of releasing the album in 2005, just to see if there's any indication things have changed in the past couple of months.

Ali

If Merck says Axl wants to make an album that "has a positive effect in 2005" then he's gonna have to release it in 2005 isn't he?

When we asked Merck if he meant that Axl wanted to make an album that "has a positive effect in 2005" he said that's what he meant when he said it.

Is Merck lying? That's up to you... His track record leads me to believe he's telling the truth... He hasn't lied before... why now?  : ok:

"IRS leak never happened"

"Buckethead not out of the band" (then confirmed by another he was indeed out at the time of the denial).

Are these considered lies?

Thought so.....

I wont hold my breath!

I hope so! Because it seems logical.... ;)






/jarmo

The IRS leak thing was probably a calculated lie yes. Designed by the bands management and Axl to minimise the hunt for the recording.


The Buckethead issue was probably genuine, he was probably just out of the loop.

For what its worth I doubt Merck speaks to Axl regularly. In fact I'll bet that if Brain hasn't seen Axl for a year, Merck never has!

If I remember correctly, he said something like "the GN'R camp didn't leak IRS", which doesn't mean the same at all.

I recall him saying the song never played on the radio. If the song leaked, someone from the gnr camp did it. I seriously doubt someone burglarized Axl's house and only took a demo. :D

one word Geffen  ;)

Anyone working at the studio could have stolen it. Engineers are not what I would call part of the GN'R camp.

i thought gn'r was ready for launch right around rir4, but then it never happened....  seems like they've waited for vr and contraband to have it's run.... maybe....

I think most people would come to the conclusion that an engineer working with Axl is somewhat a part of the "GNR camp" don't you?

But you are kinda reaching.....

Was it an engineer? Do you have inside info to share? :)

That wouldn't suprise me. I am sure they are trying everything except pulling rabbits out of their ass to try to make Axl hurry up.

Well then in that case they gotta worry about VR's second album due out in December  : ok:

I don't have any inside info whatsoever. I'm just speculating.

To me, the "GN'R camp" would be members of the band, the manager and I guess the record company, although that's stretching it a bit already....let's say key employees of the record company.

If 2005 is the year of GnR then Axl better hurry his bad self up since 2005 is nearly half over.

There's always 2006, right?

unless the planet explodes , yes.  : ok:

Not exatcly "always".  :P

In other words, 2005 is not even half over.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's available 'til the end of 2006.

They are lies. Of course, it wasn't Merck who said those things.

I may find you cute ?  :hihi:

why don"t we wait and see hmmm ?

Soon, most of you will go to beaches around the world and enjoy your summer holidays; This board and others will be desperately boring until mid september and nothing will happen because of the summer.

There is then a very short 3 months to xmas, not much to wait hmmm ?  :beer:

As I've said all along - there is absolutely NO reason to get your hopes up until it comes from the man himself.  Trust me - this will save you ALOT of grief and disappointment.

But I will say this - a good, genuine sign of the album getting close to being released will be when part or all of it is leaked to the net.  I don't care how much any band tries to keep it from happening - it is virtually impossible these days.

And I don't mean a shitty demo.  I'm talking about actual tracks from the finished product.  Till then - I ain't buying into any rumors.

Great post !  : ok:  :-*

No worries! I ain't afraid of lil disappointment.

But are you sure there is absolute reason to get your hope up when it comes from the man himself?

Is he that trusty? ::)

What's with all the negative people on this board?  You trolls are acting like the cd has been constantly delayed for years, with rumor after rumor of possible release dates.   Until that happens, you can't show your negativity.






wait...

nice

It has.... :P

dude he was joking,    Wake Up    Knock Knock  u there

At this point, yes.

Main reason:  he has never failed to produce the album when it was promised yet - because he has never given a release date himself or issued a public statement claiming CD is finished.  People who claim to be around him and close to the project have taunted and teased and made false promises all the way.  There's no sense in listening to any of them.  Obviously none of them know what they're talking about because despite the dozens of claims from different "sources" over the years NOTHING has come to fruition.  And last time I checked the last person who out-right asked Axl if "Chinese Democracy" was coming out got a reply of "you'll see it (but) I don't know if 'soon' is the word."  Three years later no one can argue the fact that the man gave accurate info. 

So, if and when Axl officially reveals the release date - that will be good enough for me.

January, 2001:

DJ: When is it gonna be the new album? Is it possible that we're gonna have a new record from Guns N' Roses?

Axl: Yes, I've heard. Um, hopefully we will put out a new single umm sometime this spring and then the record gonna be done in June or shortly thereafter.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=39

Everybody seems ready: the record company, the members of the band, Merck etc...they are all standing for Axl's approvement. Come on Axl, let's go.

I don't agree. In 2002, Axl released an interview on gnronline. He said that it was the moment to wrap up the baby and that they were going to tour for 2 or 3 years. That was kind of a release date... :yes:

i believe it was finished in 2004, too. i think the main problem is that bucket left. brain told splat(!) that he saw axl the last time about one year ago....... :-\   that`s around rio4 , but we know NOTHING so.....


he said that THEY didn`t leak anything and that`s the truth. i can`t say anything about this "buckethead out of the band" statement, but i don`t think he said it.

Nugnr problem is not Bucket leaving the band, as this has been a consequence of nugnr problems.

Bucket saw too many problems in this band, that's why he left.

That's only speculation.

Like everything. That's how message boards work especially if there isn't any reliable interview or news.

I believe that Buckethead left GNR simply because he didn't fit in with the other members and because he was impatient with Axl's demands for perfection. Bucket is used to cranking out an album over the course of a month, and he's not usually too shy about leaving the mistakes in either. I doubt he could see any problems beyond his immediate needs/wants not being met. 

Not everything, I think you're skipping a few threads.

Dont get me wrong VR is a good band but if Axl was to release CD VR would definently push back their release date

I'm of the opinion that VR would want to steal some of Axls thunder.

I can see them wanting to ride the GnR bandwagon but I don't think Scott could handle all the GnR comparisons and tolerate the press when they compare his album and his "different" lyrics.  There is no way VR would release an album the same time GnR is Releasing CD.  I could understand them releasing an album after their greatest hits, as they are riding the bandwagon, but they would only loose by trying to ride the CD wagon, because if CD is great VR will be over shadowed. If by some slim chance in hell CD is not great to the press, VR will have nothing to ride

whats to say VRs next album is not great also and wouuldn't require the like of CD to ride on?
I for one think theres a great album lurking in the VR canon and their second one could well be it..

VR wouldnt push back there release date becouse of Chinese Democracy

StoneTempleRoses

why should they?  they know CD is going to be amazing and they shall always be ok.  no reason to hide from that fact.

"We will be back next summer with a whole bunch of new songs" - Axl Rose

 :D

That's not a release date, nor a public statement claiming CD is finished.

But it sure as hell put a timeline on it now didn't it?

"We will" is not the same as "we might".

The summer which he was refering to has long since passed.

Bands tour with new material to promote an album.

the following summer he was referring to was 2002. They did play shows again in 2002. So I guess he was right  ;)

Again - no release date.

In August 2002, Axl said : "It's time to wrap up the baby."

Read the gnronline interview, it is full of things that never happened... :(

technically they were new songs to the people at those concerts  :P

At this point of our lives...  I think we better forget C.D.

Uhhhh, what? :-\

The songs were 11 to 15 years old.

"Chinese Democracy starts now...... oh wait....in november, nevermind, I meant december, ah shit, don't wait for it."

i was referring the chinese d, madagascar, the blues, and rhiad. When he played those in 2002 some of the people hadn't heard them yet.

So those 4 songs are supposed to be the "whole bunch" of new songs he was talking about?

Oh well.

This thread has been hijacked.   : ok:

VR will not push back a release date because Axl is finally putting out some music. If anything, that is the perfect time to release another album and play up on the publicity.

If anyone would get spooked about a VR release date around the same time of CD it would be Axl. You think Scott flies off the handle about GNR comparissons, just wait until Axl is asked about Slash and VR in every single interview he ever does. The guy will lose his mind.....or just stop talking to people. At which point the media will stop promoting him or GNR if he won't talk to them.

I can't see VR moving a release date for anyone.

But would they change a release date so that their record came out on the same, alleged date as a Guns record? :hihi:

That would be vicious, but I don't think VR would do that, neither the record company...


Anyway, Sanctuary can reaffirm whatever it wants : if the next Guns N'Roses album is released without Slash on it, it will be the BIGGEST FLOP EVER !!! : ok:

shut it redneck

A bigger flop than the Snakepit albums?  :o

 ;D

Oh plz.....Solo albums are not projected to be great successes. But CD on the other hand, is projected to change the face of todays music. And it will not live up to that hype with only one remaining (original)member. Face it or not, NO album can live up to that hype. And the longer it takes, the more the hype and anticipation builds. It's a catch .22 situation. It's a solo album with the GNR stamp on it.

Comparing snakepit albums to CD is a little ridiculous. ::) But it is obviously nothing more than a mediocre attempt to slam Slash.

FACT: Neither Slash or Axl will be as successful on their own as they were while in GNR together.

14 Years since the last album(s) of original material came out.

aint that the truth, even if CD is awesome, I believe the masses will be put off it doent sound like old GNR, I believe I will love CD if it comes out, but the masses, I dont know. Even if its great, I would be surprised if it outsells contraband

I'm sure most hardcore fans will like it. I know I will. But it will NOT top the success of old-gnr. Axl wanted to use the gnr name, well......good luck!

A better argument for why Axl should abandon the name and get one of his own has never been made.

It reads even better if you remove the "old" part ...