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Title: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: anythinggoes on March 10, 2005, 12:21:19 PM
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/entertainment/11096854.htm

this is the quote full article below


"There's a lot of my archives and some things never heard before," Bizzy said. "I will have a rock and roll album out this summer, doing a remake of 'Welcome To The Jungle' with Guns N' Roses. There's also another 'Bone Brothers' album coming out, Volume 2, with Crazy and Wish. We're going to keep that going, as well as the Mo' Thug situation."




Bone on the mend with a comeback album

By DAMON C. WILLIAMS -- williadc@phillynews.com


When the late gangsta rap pioneer Eazy E anointed the Ohio-based five-man crew Bone Thugz-N-Harmony as heir to the N.W.A. throne by signing them to Ruthless Records in 1993, the future looked bright for them. And the crew even delivered on some of that promise, by releasing a slew of chart-topping singles and winning a Grammy in 1996 for their haunting song, "Tha Crossroads."

However, even with all of their talents, BTH, as fans came to know the group, fell into disarray. It wasn't long before hip-hop, by and large, looked past the groundbreaking crew. After all, it's hard to stay in the spotlight without new material.

But Bone is back. Well, at least two members.

Layzie Bone and Bizzy Bone have teamed up for a refreshing new release, "Bone Brothers," out now on Koch Records. And according to these artists, this is just the first release destined to put them front-center in the world of rap once again.

"We're just trying to satisfy our fans... all we can do is hope they are satisfied. We put the work in and feel good about it," Bizzy Bone recently told the Daily News. "We look at this release as a duo album, like an independent album," although BTH members Krayzie Bone and Wish Bone also make appearances on the album.

Without question, BTH turned hip-hop's ear toward the Midwest with their sing-song delivery, unique beats and group-first mentality toward the hip-hop business. That philosophy led to a string of early-career hits, including 1994's debut, "Creepin' On Ah Come Up," which boasted the immensely popular summertime anthem, "Thuggish Ruggish Bone."

That success propelled the group's next album, the platinum-certified "E. 1999 Eternal" in 1995. That record spawned hits "1st Of The Month" and "Tha Crossroads." BTH parlayed those successes into solo album deals and a "Mo' Thugz" album and record label imprint.

Albums "Art Of War" and "BTHResurrection" followed, and although those albums reached platinum sales, the figures were much lower than the earlier records. Soon, rumors of a fissure within the group started.

As with many multi-member hip-hop groups, internal beefing and disdain for their parent label led to the BTH members parting ways, but the individual members each spoke in positive tones about one another. And now, the "Bone Brothers" would like to set the record straight.

"We went through trials and tribulations," said the 29-year-old Layzie, born Steven Howse. "We never lost our hunger. We had to break away from Ruthless Records, and went from having a major distribution deal to doing everything on our own."

By including the other two BTH members on their album, Layzie and Bizzy hope to dash talk that the group will never reconcile.

Fans need to "quit believing the hype... we are a family first," said Bizzy. "We fall out sometimes, but that doesn't mean we broke up. We really want everyone to know there's unity" among group members.

Still, as originators of a unique rhyme pattern that has been copied widely, it's irksome to them that they don't get more credit.

When people think of Midwest flows, they tend to think of Nelly and Twista. But not Bone.

The style copying is "a form of flattery, and it's cool... It lets us know we put something in the game," said the 28-year-old Bizzy Bone, born Bryan McCane. "That should give us longevity for a long time to come. But we gave hip-hop something to grow on, and it's upsetting sometimes when we don't get our props. When you see all these murals of rappers going up, you don't see one of Bone. And that's a slap in the face."

But the Bone Brothers transformed that uneasy feeling of being dissed into creative juices that flow throughout their new release. They stick to their harmonizing roots with songs "Hip-Hop Baby" and powerful "What's Friends," which receives an assist from Krayzie Bone. Naughty By Nature's Treach resurfaces on "Real Life," while the MO' Thugz crew reunites on "No Rules." In all, it's a solid release from a pair of hip-hop veterans.

"The key to longevity is being humble, staying true to what we do, sticking to our program and being a trendsetter," Bizzy said. "When you get cocky, you're out the door. We didn't get caught up and washed out of the game.

"We were the most original group to hit the rap game," he continued. "We breathed new life into rap music. We came in at a time that puts us how like how RUN DMC cane in, EPMD came in."

But what allows BTH to re-emerge on the hip-hop scene? It's nice to have a hot album, but unless there's a plan for continuity, the group will face problems like before.

Not to worry, says Bizzy, who has a solo album due in May.

"There's a lot of my archives and some things never heard before," Bizzy said. "I will have a rock and roll album out this summer, doing a remake of 'Welcome To The Jungle' with Guns N' Roses. There's also another 'Bone Brothers' album coming out, Volume 2, with Crazy and Wish. We're going to keep that going, as well as the Mo' Thug situation."

Word has it that Layzie has two underground albums on the way as well.

"We went through our trials and tribulations and through loops, and we never lost our hunger," Layzie said. "We want to remind fans of the reason they fell in love with us in the first place. All the love and support for 12 years. We couldn't have done it without the fans, and we're still going strong."


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: starchild_666 on March 10, 2005, 12:25:28 PM
weird..


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Nytunz on March 10, 2005, 12:28:21 PM
i just think he ment, he vill make a cover of the song.. Not with Guns N Roses, but welcome to the jungle Of Guns N Roses.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: ppbebe on March 10, 2005, 12:31:11 PM
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"I will have a rock and roll album out this summer, doing a remake of 'Welcome To The Jungle' with Guns N' Roses.

not with GN'R.....I hope  :-\


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: anythinggoes on March 10, 2005, 12:33:53 PM
i just think he ment, he vill make a cover of the song.. Not with Guns N Roses, but welcome to the jungle Of Guns N Roses.

i agree i think it was supposed to read       Bizzy said. "I will have a rock and roll album out this summer, doing a remake of 'Welcome To The Jungle' with BY Guns N' Roses


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Saul on March 10, 2005, 12:45:14 PM
Bizzy Bone is awesome. One of the fastest rappers ever.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on March 10, 2005, 12:57:51 PM
Didnt Ice T do a remake of WTTJ? I always heard he did or was going to but never heard it.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Mattman on March 10, 2005, 12:59:47 PM
Well, if it is WITH Guns N' Roses, I think this just goes to illustrate the increasing possibility that Axl has no confidence in his own new material and so he keeps on going back to the original classics.

[See also: VMA performance, re-recording of AFD, 2002 North American tour]

I hate to say it, but if Axl doesn't start to focus more exclusively on his new material, he's going to change into Motley Crue or KISS.? That is, rather than being a relevant act with new material, he'll be a cash cow nostalgia act playing mostly the old hits.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: killingvector on March 10, 2005, 01:06:37 PM
Is BT&H still together? I recall one of their members died awhile back. I'm sure if there was a collaboration it was with a now defunct version of GnR.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Nytunz on March 10, 2005, 01:17:36 PM
Rap sucks! And i would not like GNR work with Rap artists! Reminds me of some kind of Limp Bizkit shit!


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: 33 on March 10, 2005, 01:19:27 PM
Well, if it is WITH Guns N' Roses, I think this just goes to illustrate the increasing possibility that Axl has no confidence in his own new material and so he keeps on going back to the original classics.

I dont know mate! I dont think it means that. I look at it that BT&H wanted to cover it and asked GnR to do it with them! I dont think that means that Axl has no confidence in his new material! I think it would be fucking amazing to hear a classic guns tune done with the band and a hip hop outfit!! All a bit more coverage for the band and at the right time with impending release of CD!!


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Kahz on March 10, 2005, 01:31:24 PM
I'm a huge Bone Thugs-N-Harmony fan, so I'll clarify this.

First off, that quote that is attributed to Bizzy was actually said by Layzie (there are numerous errors in that article), who is the one that is doing the rock album (and the song is by Layzie only, not the group). They've been performing "Welcome to the Jungle" for the last 8 or 9 months at most of their shows. And, no, it is not -with- Guns N' Roses, unless they've done a new version of it.

Oh, and no, one of their members isn't dead. One is serving a 9 year prison sentence (since 1999), though, although technically he wasn't a real member as he only appeared on about 12 songs on their first three albums, which collectively had 43. It was made a bit more signifigant for the group because he appeared on 14 tracks on the groups fourth album, which was finished the month before he went to jail.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on March 10, 2005, 02:01:49 PM
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...even with all of their talents, BTH, as fans came to know the group, fell into disarray. It wasn't long before hip-hop, by and large, looked past the groundbreaking crew. After all, it's hard to stay in the spotlight without new material.

But Bone is back. Well, at least two members....

lol!  might describe another band we know, eh?   ;D


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: damnthehaters on March 10, 2005, 02:39:50 PM
Well, if it is WITH Guns N' Roses, I think this just goes to illustrate the increasing possibility that Axl has no confidence in his own new material and so he keeps on going back to the original classics.

[See also: VMA performance, re-recording of AFD, 2002 North American tour]

I hate to say it, but if Axl doesn't start to focus more exclusively on his new material, he's going to change into Motley Crue or KISS.? That is, rather than being a relevant act with new material, he'll be a cash cow nostalgia act playing mostly the old hits.

Wrong! ?There is nothing wrong with a band playing there old tunes. ?Especially when the old stuff WAS and IS really good. ?I would hate to see GNR in concert in the future and have them not play any of there old material. ?Not to say that I'm not excited for the new stuff, but you have to have a mix. ?

And I think you must have missed the point on why they re-recorded AFD with the new members? ?In my opinion, not only was it so they could perform those songs live on the tour, but also to get some chemisty going with the band. ?When you have so many new members, re-recording and playing old GNR tunes was a brilliant idea. ?This way, the new members get a feel for what GNR was about, and also get a sense for the sound and vibe with GNR. ? ? ?


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Jim Bob on March 10, 2005, 02:47:11 PM

Wrong!  There is nothing wrong with a band playing there old tunes.  Especially when the old stuff WAS and IS really good.  I would hate to see GNR in concert in the future and have them not play any of there old material.  Not to say that I'm not excited for the new stuff, but you have to have a mix. 

And I think you must have missed the point on why they re-recorded AFD with the new members?  In my opinion, not only was it so they could perform those songs live on the tour, but also to get some chemisty going with the band.  When you have so many new members, re-recording and playing old GNR tunes was a brilliant idea.  This way, the new members get a feel for what GNR was about, and also get a sense for the sound and vibe with GNR.       

hells yeah it would'nt be a gnr show if it didn't close out with Paradise City  :peace:  You go to a Guns show you expect to hear songs like Jungle and Brownstone!   I think the 'new band' plays them much better then the original.  And i've been a diehard guns fan since i was 10.

i would give anything to get a copy of the re-recorded AFD..  Its not uncommon for bands to sometimes re-record classic stuff.  just like Motley Crue redid shout at the devil in 1997 and Home Sweet Home in 1991, to show how the band has grown and progressed over the years. 

to the topic of the thread: Would be interesting to see how Bone Thugs would handle WTTJ.   Its gotta sound better then that time $lash and Fudd performed Paradise City with Cypress Hill on national television lol  : ok:


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: AxlFink on March 10, 2005, 03:47:43 PM
"with guns n roses" probably means slash is gonna play guitar on it.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Jim Bob on March 10, 2005, 04:10:14 PM
"with guns n roses" probably means slash is gonna play guitar on it.

that would be very gay


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: *Izzy* on March 10, 2005, 04:12:09 PM
Or maybey Izzy will rap on it? ;D

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 10, 2005, 05:38:36 PM
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to the topic of the thread: Would be interesting to see how Bone Thugs would handle WTTJ.   Its gotta sound better then that time $lash and Fudd performed Paradise City with Cypress Hill on national television lol

why does this poster always have to alter the names of the ex members?


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: mrlee on March 10, 2005, 05:49:52 PM
no no no. Welcome to the jungle is a classic...it cant be messed with, changed (well live maybe)

Only GNR can do this song how its ment to be. I am also including the new band, maybe not as good but really only axl can sing this trademark song.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 10, 2005, 05:56:27 PM
Bone Thugs N' Harmony are fucking awesome. If there is any rap act that I would like to see play with GnR, its them.

Realistically though, I'm pretty sure this is just a cover, not a collab. I remember hearing rumours about this a while back too. I also remember hearing it will be called "Welcome to my jungle".


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Mattman on March 10, 2005, 06:09:34 PM
Wrong! ?There is nothing wrong with a band playing there old tunes. ?Especially when the old stuff WAS and IS really good. ?I would hate to see GNR in concert in the future and have them not play any of there old material. ?Not to say that I'm not excited for the new stuff, but you have to have a mix. ?

Exactly, you have to have a mix.? But I think that when the band is almost completely new, you can't play almost all oldies with a few new songs thrown in.? You know what that makes them?? A virtual cover band.? Motley and KISS can justify playing mostly old stuff because they were on reunion tours and stuff and in that case it's all about nostalgia anyway.? But given the amount of time Axl has had to work on his music and the fact that it's a completely new band, I think that this "mix" should be the other way around.? We should be seeing mostly new songs and a few classics thrown in.

"Hmm..." I can hear you saying.? "But if they play mostly new stuff that the crowd is unfamiliar with, won't people be a little confused and not as excited in concert?"? And my answer is that, in terms of the live experience, you're absolutely right.? So you know how to change that so that people get really pumped up and excited when they play the new songs?

RELEASE THE DAMN ALBUM, AXL!!!


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: mikegiuliana on March 10, 2005, 06:37:09 PM
no no no. Welcome to the jungle is a classic...it cant be messed with, changed (well live maybe)

Only GNR can do this song how its ment to be. I am also including the new band, maybe not as good but really only axl can sing this trademark song.

I think that is being close minded being gnr are the ones who have covered so many songs.. They did the entire SI, aero covers, dylan, stones, wings, etc.. I think it's great to see someone doing anything with the songs..


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: *Izzy* on March 10, 2005, 06:38:21 PM
RELEASE THE DAMN ALBUM, AXL!!!
DO WHAT MATTMAN SAID, AXL

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: kira on March 11, 2005, 02:05:16 AM
my god what are the axl wannabe's :P why don't they leave good songs alone WTTJ is not a rap song


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Crowebar on March 11, 2005, 02:30:36 AM
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to the topic of the thread: Would be interesting to see how Bone Thugs would handle WTTJ.   Its gotta sound better then that time $lash and Fudd performed Paradise City with Cypress Hill on national television lol

why does this poster always have to alter the names of the ex members?

Why do you always have to complain??????? ??? :rant: :confused:


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Jim Bob on March 11, 2005, 03:38:00 AM
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to the topic of the thread: Would be interesting to see how Bone Thugs would handle WTTJ.   Its gotta sound better then that time $lash and Fudd performed Paradise City with Cypress Hill on national television lol

why does this poster always have to alter the names of the ex members?

Why do you always have to complain??????? ??? :rant: :confused:

because he's a typical crybaby... lol.  the question he should be asking is why the fuck is he posting on a gnr messageboard? because reading through his posts its obvious he doesn't even like axl rose or the latest guns lineup.. which is what guns n roses is today.   i'll type the ex members names however i want.. those two particular ex-members happen to be suing axl right now all because they are greedy and bitter and would stop at nothing to keep axl from releasing his album under the gnr name.   that and $lash is constantly spewing garbage to the media.

to stay on topic.. i agree with Mr Lee on this one.. jungle is just a song I have no desire to see covered.   I dont see anyone singing this song and it sounding good unless its Axl Rose lol.   His voice made that song.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on March 11, 2005, 07:24:29 AM
The world doesn't need this.... I would prefer that it  never happens

If it is a collaboration by bet goes on VR not Axl


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: DemocracyRose on March 11, 2005, 08:49:46 AM
Sp1at.com

Bizzy Bone to Cover 'Welcome to the Jungle'

Hip-Hop legend, Bizzy Bone, has told Philly.com that he will be releasing a cover of the Guns N'Roses classic, 'Welcome to the Jungle', this summer.

"There's a lot of my archives and some things never heard before," Bizzy told Philly.com. "I will have a rock and roll album out this summer, doing a remake of 'Welcome To The Jungle' with Guns N' Roses."

Merck Mercuriadis, manager of Guns N'Roses, has told Splat that Axl and co. will not be involved with the project.

Written by bigboss


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: darkmonth on March 11, 2005, 09:11:07 AM
Well if Axl is involved, I hope he has gained publishing rights to do the song because as we all know, Axl isn't owner of any of the old material.  Sure, he can play it live... but why do you think he didn't release that DVD of the House Of Blues concert?  Not because of the performance or anything... but because he legally overstepped the mark.

:D


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on March 11, 2005, 06:34:13 PM
I'm pretty sure that's a misprint. Sometime last year, they did a song that was "Welcome 2 My Jungle" or something like that, and it was an "interpretation" of "Welcome to the Jungle". There were rumors that it would be used as the theme song to last years WWE Wrestlemania 20. HBO aired it as the background music in one of their promos and it sounded alright...


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: jameslofton29 on March 11, 2005, 07:05:51 PM
If this news is fake, why hasn't the topic been locked? Doesn't Axl have more things to do than do a previously released song with this band? If Axl wants a rap version of 'Jungle', release the Ice-T version out of the vault.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Kahz on March 11, 2005, 11:34:56 PM
Here's Layzie (like I said, the Philly article is full of errors and they credited it to Bizzy) talking about it on Hot 97 late last month:

http://www.sicmuse.com/hot97bonethugs.wma


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: hotnix on April 22, 2005, 04:05:39 PM
I read this news on www.sohh.com.

 "On a side note, Layzie Bone is prepping a rock project that features a remake of Pink Floyd's "Money" and Guns N Roses' "Welcome To The Jungle." The latter song reunites Guns lead singer Axl Rose and guitarist Slash, who is now a part of Grammy-nominated group Velvet Revolver"

Im not sure what this is implying, hopefully will hear more on this soon


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: *Izzy* on April 22, 2005, 04:33:09 PM
Ahhhh, you linked me to a hip-hop site, undo, undo, undo? :o

There are a couple of threads about this already, I didn't know Slash and Axl were going to hook up for this.
I hope Izzy will join them

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Wooody on April 22, 2005, 04:39:36 PM
this has got to be bullshit


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on April 22, 2005, 05:44:11 PM
Here is the direct link, it's # 6 on the list.

http://www.sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=6983


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Rose
Post by: Jonx on April 22, 2005, 06:00:46 PM
This is a cover of the original song, its just the first 20 seconds of welcome to the jungle looped over and over again, the bit where axl scratches his voice before the main riff kicks in, its not a new recording:

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NI2OYF6O1N9W34OH47VE9XMHE

This is the live version, its crappy quality but you pretty much get the idea.


Title: Re: (FAKE) Bone Thugz & Harmony 2 remake "Welcome 2 the Jungle" with Guns n Roses??
Post by: AxemanOnFire on April 22, 2005, 07:17:14 PM
Merck Mercuriadis, manager of Guns N'Roses, has told Splat that Axl and co. will not be involved with the project.

Is that like this Merck guy's catchphrase or something? :hihi: