Here Today... Gone To Hell!

If any of the other band members have any clout whatsoever, they are gonna have to confront Axl at some point about CD. These guys have spent years working on this project with nothing to show for it. I know they're being paid alot of money but money isn't everything. They're musicians. At some point they're gonna want their music released. I think Tommy or Robin needs to tell Axl its either now or never. You know how to talk the talk, now lets see you walk the walk. I think they should even threaten to leave GNR if he keeps delaying the inevitable. You can only redo the same songs so many times. When buckethead left GNR it would have been the perfect opportunity for the other guys to confront Axl about delaying CD. Maybe they're afraid of being fired. But eventually they're going to get so frustrated that they will just walk out on the project like buckethead did. And if they did, Axl would probably scrap CD and start over. Its time for the guys to discuss this with Axl. The band might blow up but at this point I think its a risk worth taking.

we sould start a hunger strike! now who's with me ?

hahahaha , man that was funny.  ;D

bad idea
lets not give axl no reason for scrapping the cd.
it would really suck if he did.
 :confused:

The band members need to unionize!

There are three possibilities why they don't do this:

1. CD is so great and they are so afraid of being fired and not be around when GN'R will have the big comeback

2. They don't care about GN'R, they only want the money and doing solo stuff for a wider public

3. They have so strict contracts that they'll lose everything if they go away.

Not sure if "frustration" was the cause of BH leaving, who know's with him.  Being primarily a solo artist, I always thought he considered GNR no more than a side project that could be back burnered at any time.

this thread is retarded.  axl will release it when he's good and ready and he certianly doesn't owe YOU a release date.

Boy I can tell you, if you gave me an ultimatum you wouldn't get anything out of me. I'm thinking Axl would have the same adittude. Ultimatums are something only your parents can get away with when your a kid!!!!

nah, I prefer a mass suicide

Mr. Sunshine and Lollipops is at it again,huh? Quite a legacy he is leaving in this forum. I'm sure Axl will listen to your demands if you set up a nice hobo camp outside Merck's building for a good year or two. Get at it.

Axl does not owe you anything.  It is your choice to stick around and wait it out or not.  Axl said to live your life.  Why is that so hard for people to understand? ???

an ultimatum

Could be this is what Tommy implied with "barking up the wrong tree".

Probably has something to do with number 1.  : ok:

 ;D

This has now taken the rank of the biggest hunk of stinking bullshit I've ever seen posted on this board to date. :yes: : ok: :beer: :smoking:

Issue AXL an ultimatum????? ??? :o :-X :no: :nervous: :rant: :confused: >:(

You must be joking..... :-*

because Axl owns GNR from what I can see. :peace:

so first Jameslofton says he would tell axl to put up or shut up.  Now it's time to walk the walk.  I wasnt even gonna read this til I saw Lofton wrote it.  It's always funny to read this shit.  It's always so fucking retarded and when I'm stoned like I am now and then I read this it makes me laugh my ass off.  I had the funniest fuckin dream that I was hired to paint Axl's house.

Well, perhaps we should take up a collection to send jameslofton to China to subvert the Chinese government and force it to impart democracy on its people. If Axl sees a government change imminent in China, he might be aggravated enough to release the damn thing before the title becomes meaningless.

I really can't understand your denial. You act like Axl would be God. James' points were why the 'bandmembers' seem to not care about the album's release, cause if the whole band went to Axl and gave him an ultimatum to release the album, Axl would be in deep shit (but I think he would have chosen to rif of the rebels than releasing CD).

why would they do that... :peace:     They are in the know... : ok:                                     there not like us..they know alot more than we do  :beer:

I don't think Axl is the kind of guy that can be pushed or forced to do anything he doesn't want to do. The album will come out when Axl is 100 percent satisfied with the results. When that is may be never  :'( :crying:

Sorry but I don't want to starve to death.

you're not a real fan  :hihi:

Well excuse me! Bitch!

who you calling bitch? BITCH !  :P

You guys don't think the bandmembers confronting Axl would speed up release of CD? Without them, Axl has nothing. If they quit, he would be forced to start over. So as far as i'm concerned, the other members have some leverage,and I think its about time they used it.

No, I really don't. Cause I think Axl could just easily say, "Screw it!", "I'm done with this!", "I'm threw!", "It's over with!". And take his music and never let it see the light of day.

Drew, I understand your point but I think its a risk worth taking. Look how many years we've waited. And there is no end to this wait in sight. The new article talking about a September release is just another rumour or outright lie. We've been down this road many times. September turns into December and then December turns into March and then back to September again. A neverending cycle. At some point the bandmembers are gonna reach their boiling point. And I would prefer they reach that point now instead of 3 years from now. I doubt Axl is gonna release this on his own free will. Its gonna take a mutiny from the band or a forced release from the record company for CD to ever see the light of day.

I don't think the band members need to do this. The press are beginning to do it for them. The Times has a large circulation in the UK, and the latest article must have hurt  :crying: I sincerely hope they are fuelling his energy for greatest ever comeback in rock n' roll history.  :drool:

If its not, then maybe he should give up.  :'(

In my opinion the media doesn't get on his case enough. Besides the 2 recent articles the media has basically ignored him. The talk about the media hating Axl is largely a myth. If they wanted to, they could make jokes and insults about him all the time. But they dont. I think they give him the benefit of the doubt. Just because a few reporters slammed Axl back in the early 90's doesn't mean there's a worldwide conspiracy against Axl. Maybe some reporter will write a book called 'The Unmaking of Chinese Democracy' and show the world what a farce this whole thing is. And then with added pressure, he will finally release it. I just don't understand his reluctance to release it. It just doesn't make any sense.

When it's ready it will be released. Period.

If you can't wait, you know what to do.

Of course I'm gonna keep on waiting. Only death can stop the wait.

Once you've started its impossible to stop!

Yeah, i've been waiting 14 years for this album. I'm not ready to give up yet. But I don't know how many more years I can wait like this. With my luck, i'll die and then the day after I die CD will be released. Or on the day of its release I'll die as I'm walking over to the counter to buy it.LOL!!

Whatever, jameslofton29.
All your arguments are full of inconsistencies.
In another thread You say you think the label rejected CD during the 2002 tour. In the other one, you're sure that There's no big gun. If so, you shouldn't consider it's up to him, should you?

So why do you urge an ultimatum here.

What about my statements do you find inconsistent?? It all makes sense to me.

Taz, can you explain me how an ultimatum could have an effect on the release when it was not up to Axl?
What difference could it make?
Sounds Utter nonsense to me.

 

you truly are the king of kings.

Why should they get on his case more? This isnt 1991. Rock music is pretty much dead. GNR for the most part to most people outside of the internet is dead. I dont see why anyone would think mainstream media thinks axl rose is some important person?

The man hasnt done much of anything in 10 years .. you cant just rest on your laurels forever can you?

I'm sure he'll get his due press when and if he does "something" but until then people who are actually doing things like touring and releasing albums , singles and videos will get the press.

Right now to alot of people axl rose is a long running joke with no punchline and it's up to him to change that.

You know, Axl once said while making the Estranged video that if he wanted to, he could just buy the music video and keep it for himself.  Maybe he's doing it for this album...

Yeah, I like the mass suicide idea.  Lets select a few members from this board to do it.  If we select the right few then the intelligence level of this board will increase dramatically.  Jim Bob, for example, would be an excellent candidate.