Here Today... Gone To Hell!

We all know back in their hay day the old GNR had problems with drugs. Adler being fired due to his addiction, but does anyone know how Axl failed to develop a herion addiction like the others.

I know Axl experimented a little with drugs, didn't he write My world after getting high on magic mushrooms. Or was it another song? But why didn't he experiment with harder drugs? or did he. And i remember a quote from Slash i think saying that Axl never been addicted to anything except maybe cigerettes.

WELL, I understand why the song is so horrible now...he should have eaten vegetables!  :hihi:

none of the ex-members haven't said that Axl had a drug problem or even did 'hard' drugs. I believe he has done his share, weed, cocaine... but I think he hasn't had any serious drug problems or what so ever 'cause there haven't been any statements for pointing to that direction. we remember Illusion tours and ex-members... For Examble, Paris 92, Sweet child of mine, Duff fucked up that song (being high or drunk) and many more..Axl did his share everytime perfectly, and I don't think that he could had done the gigs as perfectly as he did if he would had been addicted to heroin or something..

I don't know about his drug use. But I saw him back on the UYI tour (with skid row) and he seemed like he was coked out of his mind. Doesn't mean he was, but...

drugs are ridiculous. that's not life. Freddy Mercury didn't take any drugs and he was the best.

I apologize in advance for the following sentence.  If you're easily offended, just skip it.
/Mike







Interesting.  I understand Freddy received frequent injections.

Are you, as many people believe, a heavy drug user?

I have a different physical constitution and different mindset about drugs than anybody I've known in Hollywood, because I don't abstain from doing drugs, but I won't allow myself to have a fuckin' habit. I won't allow it. I'll have done blow for three days and my mind will go "Fuck no". I'll have the physical feeling of knowing my body needs it, and I'll just refuse to do coke that day. I'm not going to do it, because if I was going to do it, I know I won't be able to hit my goals with what I want to do with this band. I can't let myself get into coke as much as I'm into the band. The same thing with heroin. I did it for three weeks straight and had one of the greatest times in my life, because I was with a girl I wanted to be with in this beautiful apartment, and we just sat there listening to Led Zeppelin, doing drugs and fucking. It was great, 'cause at that time I had nothing to do but sit on my ass and make a few phone calls a day. I stopped on, like, Saturday, because I had serious business to attend to on Monday. I felt like shit, sweated, shook, but on Monday I was able to function. I can't hide in drugs. A lot of people can, but whenever I do any drugs - pills, booze, smack, whatever - to enjoy it, my life has to be perfect - no fuck-ups, nothing going wrong. Otherwise, when I'm high, I'll analyse the shit out of everything that's happening in my life and why things are going wrong. That's not enjoyable. And if I have shows to do, I won't touch drugs because it fucks up my throat. My advice is don't get a habit, don't use anybody else's needle and don't let drugs become a prerequisite to having a good time. Do things in moderation , and just be careful.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=2

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RIP: Why does the world have this misconception about you, especially about you being a drug addict?

AXL: Didn't Presidential candidate Bill Clinton catch a lot of shit for admitting that he tried pot once? that's bullshit. How many cool people do you know who survived and lived during the '60s? GN'R got to the top of a mountain by using every pile of shit that ever happened to us. We were living that way, living our songs, and it started killing us. It was either die or change. Certain people who see that we're gotten control over ourselves, control over our physical shapes and our lives, write that we're sedate and predictable. They say we don't live on the edge anymore. Actually, I'm living on the edge and learning how to ride it instead of being dragged down by it.

RIP: I see what you're saying, but that doesn't answer my question about you.

AXL: Okay, first off, I'm on very specific, high-tuned vitamins. My body needs these vitamins. I'm also involved in extensive emotional work to reach certain heights with myself that doing hard drugs would interfere with. I'm doing several detoxing programs to release trapped toxins that are there because of trauma. Doing a lot of coke would get in the way of my work. Doing dope would definitely get in the way of what I'm trying to accomplish. Some pot doesn't really get in the way too much. It gets in the way of the work for, like, the next day, but sometimes it's a grounding thing. If I'm flipping out in the middle of Idaho, then a little bit of pot helps me be sedate. Also, coming off stage, going from such high energy into a very sedate world, is heavy - I don't care how many strippers you have. It's like going off a cliff in a car, and that's when I can use some smoke.

RIP: You don't even smoke that much anymore.

AXL: I know. About a year ago, while we were recording the records, I smoked a lot of pot. I was in a lot of pain, and that was the only way I could keep myself together enough to work. It was the the only thing that could take my mind off my problems, so I could stay focused and record. It helped keep me together. Now it would interfere with things.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=10




/jarmo

I remember reading an interview where Axl talked about doing his share of drugs but he would not let himself get addicted.  He talked about one time when he and a chick fucked and did heroin for a week staight.  Axl said it took him a few days to get over the withdrawl symptoms but after that he was fine.  If i remember correctly, he said something about his body being addicted but he would never let his mind get to that point.  This interview used to be in the article section of the main site if you want to look for it.  I guess it's probably from around 1990-91.

Edit:  I guess you beat me to it Jarmo. : ok:

Come again?  :hihi:

Well..maybe a snort or two of some meth would help the braided wonder get the album out, eh?  

Little drug humor, don't get your braids in a bunch... ;D

It's Freddie. Not Freddy. I hate when people write it like that. :rant:

One of the old bandmates.. was Slash or Duff.. said that Axl was never addicted to anything.. except maybe cigarettes.

I think during the early days Axl tried his fair of stuff.. in one show in 87 he told the crowd how he ended up in hospital when all he wanted to do was sleep for a weekend.. he did say what he took. I think Axl was always in control of it and never let it become a problem like the other guys.

I thought the reason Axl got fired from the band for a couple days was because of his drug use.  Do I remember this wrong?

He reminds me Mick Jagger. I mean Mick wasn't addicted to drugs, just used them to be in style. But he'd never lost his clear mind 'cause they're not worth it.

 :rofl:

where did you hear that?

i heard that too on Maximum Guns N' Roses, that in '86 or something Axl was way too firey or something and out of control so they sacked him but his stage presense n' all couldn't be beat so they let him back in... skip forward then 4/5 years and he's contracting everyone's asses! he's the man!

I remember that too, bit it hadn't nothing to do with drugs (I recall)

I am in an argument and i believe ive read that he was addicted to heroin but not as bad as some.. he kicked the habit etc

but was there ever a time he was addicted to it?

feel free to lock or move if u want, but I need to know.

He said he was never addicted, meaning he could go on a one-week heroin binge and stop cold because he needed to be clean at that particular moment. That's all I know.

"I'm not and never have been a junkie. The last interview in RIP Magazine got taken out of context about me talking openly about my drug use. That was over two years ago and was only for a few weeks when there was nothing to do. I was also very safe about it. That doesn't mean that at some point I won't get really sick of life and choose to OD. Then people will go, "He was always a junkie." That's not the case, but you can believe what you want, I don't give a fuck. No one's really gonna believe anything I say anyway as far as what I do or don't do with drugs, 'cause it's such a taboo subject. Lately I've been drinking champagne for fun, a few beers, you know. Right now drugs get in the way of my dreams and goals. I really don't want drugs around me now, I'm not necessarily against the use of drugs, they just don't fit in my life right now. Then again, I could be out on tour for six months and a blast might be what cheers me up that night. "

In other words, no.
 

Axl says he could stop but most junkies say the same thing so that doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't addicted at some point.

Steven would definetly say so. I was reading an interview with him and he said the reason axl isn't in certain parts of the paradise city video cos all he wanted to do was go off and do heroin with izzy. Ofcourse this was done to prove that his addiction was no worse than the other membe's.

I also read a (contentious) interview with a teenage girlfriend. She flew out to LA during the making of AFD and when axl met her at the airport he said something along the lines of "I can't wait to finish this album cos when i do i'm gonna lock myself in a room for three weeks and do heroin" Ofcourse the whole story is contested by axl.

I doubt you'll find any undeniable evidence that he was an addict, but there's definetly evidence that points to it.

i never new izzy did drugs. I thought he was the quiet innocent one. lol

I thought even Slash had said that Axl was 'never addicted to anything except cigarettes', or words to that effect.

Yeah, Slash said that.

C'mon D, you should know this!

I remember reading something a while ago where Axl said he used heroin to enchance creativity.  He said he didn't use it just to get fu@ked up.  Either way it's still heroin.  Was he addicted...who knows?

Axl wasn't the gnr member that sucked dick to feed his fix.

Check gnrfrance. ;)

According to RockPower's 1991 (or 1992, I don't remember) drug special issue 'Izzy Stradlin' brought back heroin to the muscial scene' and they added a picture of a totally wasted Izzy.

I don't think he's ever been addicted to heroin. he doens't look like a junkie and if you take heroin for 17 years (from the beggining of gnr), like he would do if he was addicted to it, you certainly would not look as healthy as axl does.

Huh?

2 points.

1) It is possible to kick a drug habit. The question was has he ever been addicted. Don't get me wrong, it's a very difficult thing to quit, but i don't understand why you make reference to him doing it for 17 years.

2) Looking healthy means nothing. Many, many people have secret heroin addictions that are not picked up upon and they look fine.

i think that if axl was adicted to or used anything for other reasons than creative ones, it must have been coke.... never saw him as a heroin dude even though i know he has done it several times... i still think coke is his thing eh... but what do i know?...

Yeah, I agree. If a had to choose which drugs he used I'd bet for cocaine and marijuana. During the UYI tour he looked like someone who uses coke.

Everyone's been addicted to heroin for a while? ;)

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

ain't that the truth!  :smoking:

yep, I just read in interview with Slash from November 1995 where he said that.
thikn it was in Metal Hammer or something.

That's not true though? :P

Yes? ;)
OFF TOPIC; Your new green skull n' crossbones avatar is cool? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

Yeah, but to be fair, slash was a heroin addict at this point, so if he's not gonna admit it about himself publically i doubt that he would about his bandmate.

I believe Axl was always pretty open about when he used drugs.   I dont believe he ever took it to the level the other old bandmembers did.  Axl always had a lot more responsiblities in the band, business wise and I think he kept a pretty clear head through most of it.

I think this "sex drug and rock n' roll" theory is extremely stupid. It's for people who don't have values. I'm happy to know Axl never was addicted to drug. I'm happy to know he is a little more "evoluated"as a person than most of "rockers" on this planet who think taking drugs is "cool": No, it's not. I think it was one of the reasons why the original band broke-up. Axl didn't want to deal with junkies. And I think, on that point, he was right.

A little one-sided don't you think? Axl did his fair share of coke, and i'd be he did a great deal more hallucinogenics.

Alot of people are basing their belief that axl wasn't an addict on interviews that were carried out in or around the time of the trial with stepehen. Basically the interviewer says

"Steven was kicked out for being a junkie. But he says you guys were junkies too. Is this true?"

Slash/Axl/Duff/Izzy's reply "I was never addicted to anything, but i did some. Stephen did too many, too often."

I'm not saying he definetly was, but alot of people are putting alot of faith in highly contentious interviews. None of the band could admit to being a junkie or steven would've had them by the balls.

Yeah that's what I thought too.

i think axl was more addicted to sex teehee but doesn't everyone love sex. sex is much better then drugs :D

I'm under the impression that someone of axl's mental state would find stimulants ie:Coke more enjoyable.

you should try to combine the two, now thats rock n' roll for ya  : ok: :P

there is no doubht that Axl did heroin more than once, there's no doubht that he o.d.ed on pills, there's no doubht he smoked crack at times and there's no doubht he did lots of coke. The difference between him and the rest is that he didn't do it all the time thats all...

 :peace:

this is a touchy subject.i myself dabbled with heroin not getting addicted.but in other cases my bestfriend whom was dabbling at the same time.got very addicted.changing her life for the worst.i also lost friends from it.they died one night and i didn't.and did the same heroin as him.it made me wake the fuck up.i stopped doing all drugs but pot and beer now.touchy very touchy subject.

Yeah, heroin is kinda a scary drug? :-\

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

america has in general been very lucky that heroin never became a "popular" drug. not that alot of people don't do it, it's just america's main problem drug is coke. heroin was incredibly popular where im from in the eighties and severly fucked up alot of people(see Trainspotting for more on this). nevermind getting onto the problems that sharing needles can lead to.....

it's really nasty shit.

I used to work with a guy who was in the "pharmacutical" business and he told me that he had sold Axl some coke when Axl and the boys came to town in 1988.  The show was an hour from Lafayette and this guy provided pictures of Axl and him conversing about the deal.  Also, didn't Axl turn Shannon Hoon on to heroin?  That worked out really well...

I would more than happy to buy Axl a couple of 8-balls to get this album out

It doesn't take 8-balls to get something done. It takes real balls.

 ::) grow up at all once dude !!!

...Axl came to live in L.A City when he was young, in L.A city drugs n' alcohol are a way to breath while u're there....so it's so easy to notice that Axl knew all kind of drugs at there but he wasn't a cocaine guy really like Steven or other rock stars...he just drinks so much now n' then!!  :beer:

Hollywood Rose guitarist Chris Weber on their early days in LA


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I wonder how much of the whole drug thing was just for show, so they can appear dangerous and "cool" to sell records. I don't doubt that they've all tried stuff, and some of the members eventually got addicted and really fucked up. But if everyone was fucked up all the time, Guns wouldn't have reached the heights (no pun intended) they did. At least somebody was doing something right between 87 and 92.

They, like most, took drugs to escape from reality and overpower their other problems and because they're good? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

what i was tryin to get at in the other  topic about heroin.one person may become addicted when another may not.it all depends on the person.if addictive type of person.experamenting with drugs could have bad results.but you don't think of it while doing drugs.till finnally something happens to make you aware.maybe family members can help but if you are too far gone it may not even help.like i said all depends on the person.if addicted.

so if axl did get fired in 86 then we would have never have heard of axl. GnR might have stayed together still with slash, duff and sorum and maybe david lee roth or some other singer.  hmm interesting

I always thought Axl was only addicted to cigarettes and sex. ( I know he loved seeing 2 women going at it....mmmm). After reading all the articles I always figured Axl did not want to deal with the drugs and booze the others were doing. After shows I 'think' Axl went off with strippers and close friends or his brother while the others went boozing etc. There is nothing worse than watching everyone around you drink and enjoy themselves while you can't be involved :crying:.
Reading more recent articles we read that even cigarettes were banned from the studio while recordings went on with the new band. Interesting topic!

Shannon hoon died from a coke overdose, not herion. Shannon said he stopped herion after he peed on the crowd in vancouver... I highly doubt axl turned him on to it. I don't axl did herion much after the appetite tour

Axl loves cocaine. :o

Always has loved Bolivian Flake Cocaine and always will. :P

He sat up in his mansion for years doing huge lines of coke. :nervous:

That's why he showed up at RIR#3 all fat and shit looking like Elvis did. :yes:

That kind of bloated-ness is only caused by one thing. :hihi:

Heavy and sustained fucking drug use. : ok:

Axl's a fucking CRACKHEAD!!!!! ;D

Everyone knows Axl dabbled in drugs in the old days. I doubt he does anything anymore. I kind of see it like this...

Appetite era = the heroine years (look how scrawny he is in the "Sweet Child O' Mine" video)

Illusions era = the coke years

Chinese Democracy era = the football jersey addiction years?  ???

i think shannon managed pretty well by himself to stumble across good ol' mr brownstone, i do think it was heroin that took his life tho, not coke...

Chinese Democracy era = The not releasing CD years? ???? ;D
I agree, he is addicted to football jerseys _{and not releasing albums}? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

 ::) buddy!!!! the reason why Axl is fat it's cuz he gets sex these times more than ever!!!! remember he has many sexual traumas as kid so when he started to be famous he was trying to fight this but his money couldn't even buy the peace he was needing for years! but these times things are differents for him!  :beer:

...I remember he told in 1992 : "although I'm a rock star right now I can't have a good sexual relationship so easy!!!, I don't give a shit if you believe in me or not to hear about it!"    (so i got in shock when i knew that :o )

 :smoking: ...so since I saw Axl Rose in Las Vegas Show in 2001 I noticed he did find the correct Psychiatrist to help him to get a better life into his shocking mind!!!! I hope Axl follows this way always!!!!  :) :yes: : ok:

I didn't know there was a connection between having a lot of sex and gaining weight.

ARV, if you could think for two seconds before typing something, I think everyone would be appreciative.

Thanks in advance.

sex is sex drugs are drugs,granted sometimes drugs replace sex lol.but sex can never  replace drugs lol.as sex goes with drugs at times.but that niether can put each other first.cause the two go together sex and drugs.if you can understand that one.try sex without drugs it's much better that way.

 :confused:

so you like sex with drugs or er do you like drugs without sex?

call me, i'm down for whatever  ;)

this has taken an interesting turn.

 :o ?Me either! ?Now I understand why I struggle to keep my weight down. ?:P

i didn't know that eighter, i thought it was the other way around, now i know why i'm so fucking skinny....

good to see you c, i knew you would show up in this thread!  :P

Do you think Axl is a Saint....Saint Axl...my, my. He's still a virgin too! I agree, drugs suck. In their world it's all around them. Don't let it shatter your dreams about him.
Drugs, Sex, and Rock & Roll. It's all entertainment.

:smoking: well well well...! for ur information let me tell y'all something I study Psychology at the university n' I did know a time ago there's a connection between having a lot of sex and gaining weight n' do ya know why? well the thing is no one can't be happy without having sex truly!, no one can't have a stronger body without sex cuz when you don't have it so you don't wish to eat a lot for sure!!!!, no one might whish to live without sex, can y?all imagine life without SEX, can y'all survive without it honestly?  ;D ::)

? so Axl didn't have many desires to live those days when he couldn't have sex easily it's just cuz his traumas were bringing him down while he just tried to get some peace! But now he seems to have a better Psychologist to guide him really!

...n' if y'all don't believe me yet so you can talk to Dr or Psychologist to asnwer ya what I said  ::)

i also study psychology at university and i can tell you that having sex and gaining weight are both physical processes. psychology doesnt enter in to it. you are talking crap.

However if you're implying that all trauma's in life are created by sexual experiences then you're obviously a first year student who hasn't got past the chapter on Freud. Let me save you six months of studying "Little Hans" - Frued is pretty much bullshit.

Off topic - This post should get a medal.

Hey man, Axl's a fucking rich motherfucking rock star cocaine freakshow okay??? : ok: :yes:

You're theories fucking suck man and so does your fucking English. :yes: :beer:

Please learn how to fucking write something audible, sensible and cognitive from this day forth. :crying:

What a fucking crock of shit..................... :rant: :confused:

he isn't junkie definitely!!!
His weight said that!!!!

He showed up fat because he's been eating too much, cocaine makes you lose weight, thats why it is popular with models.

Too fat to be a junk hag.  :hihi:

As others have probably posted - Axl has admitted to doing his share of the hard stuff, but claims to have never been addicted to anything. Plus, there's the comment Slash once made about Axl never having been "hooked on anything harder than ciggies."

But then, almost every junkie out there claims to be nothing more than an occasional user, so who knows...? He definitely sported the proper emaciated look in the early days.

oh really?  ::) so how can ya be so sure about it?
...buddy we're speaking about our hero Axl Rose, we're not speakin' about Scott n' his poor V.R Band  :no:
 ...are ya a true gnr fan for real or what  :rant: ?
...of course Axl is a rich rock star but that ain't mean he spends his fucking money on drugs!!!! I don't really think he's on drugs these times, he could use some cocaine or marijuana in 1986-1988 but he left it off when he saw Steven fucked up in 1989!!!!  :-\  ...?n' this for ya 2NaFish? : I don't care for what you said to me cuz I'm not a first year student , I almost get graduated soon!!!  if you know truly about Axl Rose so you gotta know that he has a lot of traumas from his stormy childhood which didn't let him to get a correct sexual life for years, when you can't have sex easily so you don't wish to do anything else!...would someone eat too much when this one can't get sex honestly?  :nervous:  the answer is NOT really!!!! ... I also know that Axl isn't on drugs these days...it's so easy to know he found the peace into his head these days...that's the true reason why he's fat, Axl isn?t so jerk to be lost on drugs when he needs to come back again!, that's it!  :smoking:

Look at the Sunday NYT  03 20 2005. Letter to the editor about Axl .Very NICE :peace:

Yes. Two totally unrelated things. Now stop spamming this board or.....you know the rest.

I'm not  spamming this board, i just say he is fat it's cuz he has sex today more than ever,... all what i mean is he's not on drugs these times cuz he's just having sex n' a better life that he didn't have before, everyone can read up here what i wrote before, that's it!  :peace:

oh fuck that didn't come out right lol.
well what i said is inbetween ''im down for whatever ''
yeah ok im    aa   daaa im goerge right now ha.
sex is fine however.strange things happen sexually while on drugs or drinking sometimes ha.so i recomend doing it wisely.

 :smoking: the reasons why Axl could use cocaine n' alcohol those times :

1) he was a lonley guy in the city of sin Los Angeles. C.A-USA
2) he tried it to understand why rocker guys use it too
3) he couldn't find a nice sex life while he had a lot of traumas from his childhood n' the worst is he didn't have money to pay a Psychologist to help him out
4)he just was fucking young n' he needed to try a lot of drugs to see what'll happen to him
5) drugs could kill his hunger somewhat while he was living in a' expensive city like that!
6) he used a lot of drugs to find some answers that never appear!

anyway everyone might mix sex with drugs when this one gets in the same situation that Axl was too, sad but true guys!? :-\?

ARV, Will ya stop callin' drugies gay, please? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

read up there!, I just wanted to mean GUYS...that's it! :peace:

i have heard that axl had a big deal with drinking but not drugs

OK sorry? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

yeah I heard it too but sometimes I just wonder if he drinks too much before being on stage? although I didn't notice that at rock in rio 2001...what do ya guys think about?  :smoking:

No, Shannon died after a coke-overdose. NOT heroin. RIP.

No!, he just died in a car accident in L.A City in 1996!

He did not.

Shannon Hoon died Saturday afternoon October 21, 1995 in New Orleans.



/jarmo

I read somewhere that apparently all the members of the band were into drugs except Axl. ???

but what does it have to do with Shannon Hoon then?  :o :-\ ??? ??? ???

Correct. If memory serves me correctly, the circumstances if his death were really bizzare at first because his bandmembers found him motionless and lifeless on the tour bus, but an autopsy concluded a cocaine overdose.

Dude i was replying to the bloody topic. Axl and drugs????

 :nervous: you know... it's very hard to run away from your own addictions while you do know you're all alone deep own inside!!!! that's the reason why many persons die that way!!!! n' it's a scary matter to understand that we all might be there someday, somehow!!!! ...I thank Lord about Axl seems to be fine! ...i know he used to taste some kind of drugs since he came to live in L.A but something tells me that he left drugs off when he noticed that Steven lost control! ....that shows us all that Axl has a stronger soul to live in a world that's much too dark!...i hope we all might be like him!? ?

last time I saw Axl he was looking like he just got out of the jym. he used to be small and skinny but now he looks heathy and toned ready for tour....i highly dout that drugs have any control in his life at this moment.

i think it is when he's on tour that drugs become an issue....

where did you see Axl last time?...see him on Video or do you live in L.A. City?  ???

I've said it before and I'll say it again.... :o


Axl Rose, is Axl Rose. :yes: : ok: