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Title: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Wheres Izzy on March 04, 2005, 08:04:51 PM
I know alot of people on this board were posting about hating the production josh abraham did with contraband so who would you think would be a good choice to produce the next one since there is already talk of it? Mike Clink could be a possibility. Slash must like him since he had him do the first Snakepit album and Matt is working with him now on the camp freddy stuff. I doubt Scott would want that tho. Heres a fucking idea....how about Izzy? Izzy produced alot of his own shit. Other suggestions aren't really coming to mind at the moment. Anyone with ideas or preferences fuckin post em!


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: N.I.B on March 04, 2005, 08:54:54 PM
izzy sounds like a good idea, but clink i think would be a better choice.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: *Izzy* on March 04, 2005, 08:56:42 PM
I doubt they'll let Izzy produce it, he'd probably produce it and tell V.R that they can't promote or tour for the album except in Japan ?:hihi:
From interviews with Slash regarding V.R it seemed as though there was conflict between Izzy and Weiland ????

 :smoking: Izzy ?:smoking:


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 04, 2005, 09:59:44 PM
Get the guy that produced the Silvertide album, Show and Tell.  I love the production on that album.  It has that live sound they are looking for.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: the dirt on March 05, 2005, 12:16:01 AM
Phil Spector..


If not, Terry Date


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Top-Hatted One on March 05, 2005, 01:27:54 AM
Mike Clink!

but I don't think Scott will have it


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Acquiesce on March 05, 2005, 01:52:05 AM
Phil Spector..




He'll be busy with his murder trial.  :-X


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Malcolm on March 05, 2005, 08:21:22 AM
Either Mike Clink, Bob Rock or Rick Rubin...This guy is amazing...The other two slipknot albums sucked except for the one he produced


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Drew on March 05, 2005, 09:51:13 AM
I like the idea of Mike Clink as the producer also.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: welshrose on March 05, 2005, 01:10:51 PM
Velvet Revolver should do something ballsy with their next LP. Take chances, expand their sound, take pride in their work and make a "RAW" rock n roll album. The sound and production was awful on the last one. I hope this album will be there Tiny Music record..thats such a good album.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: GNROSAS on March 05, 2005, 02:11:52 PM
Axl Rose :hihi:


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Judge Dredd on March 05, 2005, 05:49:59 PM
Rick Rubin :peace:


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Falcon on March 05, 2005, 06:22:14 PM
Rick Rubin :peace:

I dig Rick as well, but his reputation for for "not being around" during sessions grows by the day.
With his increasing "mogul" status, he tends to tag himself with "Executive Producer" status while letting his minion, George Drakoulias handle day to day production.

I'd like to see the guys go with Steve Jones, but I doubt the formal Pistol would be game.? I think he's quite happy with his Hollywood patriarch reputation and everything that entails.

I had no problem with Abraham, he's got a good ear for what's current and has a nice feel for capturing his artists in a very "less is more" vibe.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Wheres Izzy on March 05, 2005, 08:30:24 PM
Rick Rubin :peace:

I dig Rick as well, but his reputation for for "not being around" during sessions grows by the day.
With his increasing "mogul" status, he tends to tag himself with "Executive Producer" status while letting his minion, George Drakoulias handle day to day production.

I'd like to see the guys go with Steve Jones, but I doubt the formal Pistol would be game.? I think he's quite happy with his Hollywood patriarch reputation and everything that entails.

I had no problem with Abraham, he's got a good ear for what's current and has a nice feel for capturing his artists in a very "less is more" vibe.

Steve Jones did produce the first buckcherry album tho so he might be down.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Mattman on March 05, 2005, 10:06:15 PM
Rick Rubin would be good.  I would say Bob Rock, but I don't think he would be right for VR's material and their wish to be a "raw rock 'n' roll band".  He would be great if they were trying to make a commercial hard rock record, but none of us can forget the atrocity that resulted when Rock recorded a "raw" album (St. Anger).

I always liked the early "Mutt" Lange records, like AC/DC's Highway to Hell or Back in Black, and Def Leppard's High 'n' Dry, but everything after that was basically too sugary and overproduced (even if Def Leppard's subsequent records were great, they're too saccharine for VR's style).

I guess I'll go with Rick Rubin.  He's an old standby for producing really good aggressive music.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Timothy on March 06, 2005, 12:43:30 AM
Roy Z , who did a damn good job on the new Judas Priest album. And along with Roy I think that VR should also help produce it.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: azazello on March 06, 2005, 04:56:35 AM
Anyone but Josh Abraham. As much as I love their music, CB sounds soo polished and dull.  :'(


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Genesis on March 06, 2005, 08:22:47 AM
Mike Clink or Bob Rock.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: echrisl on March 06, 2005, 08:31:43 AM
Mike Clink would be awesome, I've always loved his work on Rust In Peace (Megadeth).  Speaking of Megadeth, Dave Mustaine would make an awesome producer (not gonna happen, I know ...).


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Sakib on March 06, 2005, 12:27:48 PM
Clink shud do it


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: RichardNixon on March 06, 2005, 03:48:47 PM
How about Ted Templeman? What's he done lately?


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: the dirt on March 06, 2005, 05:36:18 PM

Steve Jones did produce the first buckcherry album tho so he might be down.

With Terry Date  ;)


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: tomass74 on March 07, 2005, 01:43:03 AM
Rick Rubin definately!! The guy is fucking amazing. I would say Mike Clink just for Appetite alone but didn't he do the illusions too? I thgink the production on those are crap....


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: St.heathen on March 07, 2005, 10:42:51 AM
I would suggest Tony Visconti a legendary Bowie and T-rex producer. Who has also worked with Thin Lizzy, Iggy Pop and most recently The Manics new album.

I think he would have the experience behind him to really take VR to another level.  I would love to hear that combination. I think Scott would be more interested in working with someone like him. 


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Falcon on March 07, 2005, 01:05:33 PM
Chris Goss is another name to ponder, done tons of stuff with the like of Kyuss, QOTSA, Weiland, Melissa Auf DerMaur..


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: jarmo on March 07, 2005, 01:47:20 PM
Butch Vig.

Brandan O'Brien

Or if they want to get it done quickly, go up to Seattle and record with Jack Endino. ;)




/jarmo


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: oldleadbelly on March 07, 2005, 02:32:00 PM
Good call Jarmo on Brendan O'Brien.  If Clink gets so many nods (for good reason), then STP nostalgia dictates Brendan gets some love.  O'Brien produced all 5 STP albums, and has worked with such a wide swath of artists, he has experience in just about every spectrum of rock.  He can produce a polished sound, such as on Core or even Vs. by Pearl Jam, and turn around and create a very gritty raw sound like Tiny Music and No Code.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: thejungle on March 07, 2005, 06:31:58 PM
i'm not sure how much scott would go for the GNR connection myself, he's still very aware/self-conscious/insecure about that shit. i think tony visconti is a good idea personally. weiland would go for it due to the bowie connection, and he has pedigree etc.

i think names like bob rock, mike clink...rick rubin etc etc...they're almost too obvious in a sense. "hey lets do a raw rock album...get x guy" and i think this band should be thinking about expanding the bands sound while staying raw and rocky, so i think someone other than those guys might be a better idea.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: mrlee on March 07, 2005, 06:55:55 PM
Velvet Revolver should do something ballsy with their next LP. Take chances, expand their sound, take pride in their work and make a "RAW" rock n roll album. The sound and production was awful on the last one. I hope this album will be there Tiny Music record..thats such a good album.
well in a interview i read thats what slash say they were planning to do. Make it RAW


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: the dirt on March 07, 2005, 07:04:54 PM
Bruce Fairbairn would have been nice to hear, coul'da brought good stuff outta Slash


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: younggunner on March 07, 2005, 11:41:42 PM
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Sorum gave a "him or me" scenario and O'Brien was let go immediately.
Seems like Sorum took notes while in GNR


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: younggunner on March 07, 2005, 11:52:32 PM
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Forgive my asking, but when did Matt or any other GNR member complain about Mike Clink?
I was comparing him to Axls alleged "me or you" mentality. Whethe rit had to do with people in the crew, management, band, cats and dogs. Just in general. Again dont get Booker on me


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Falcon on March 08, 2005, 12:04:51 AM
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Forgive my asking, but when did Matt or any other GNR member complain about Mike Clink?
I was comparing him to Axls alleged "me or you" mentality. Whethe rit had to do with people in the crew, management, band, cats and dogs. Just in general. Again dont get Booker on me

I really had no idea what you were talking about..


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: starchild_666 on March 08, 2005, 10:52:58 AM
hmm who produced Audioslave album? sound pretty good.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: nesquick on March 08, 2005, 11:26:13 AM
I'd like their next album to be better produced than "contraband". I also think the production of contraband wasn't great. I'd like the second album to be more bluesy-rock oriented and less "metal" (contraband sounds really barely metal sometimes... :-\) and with a better production, with better arrangements. I'd like to hear also some accoustic guitar works.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: *Izzy* on March 08, 2005, 11:29:25 AM
I'd like their next album to be better produced than "contraband". I also think the production of contraband wasn't great. I'd like the second album to be more bluesy-rock oriented and less "metal" and with a better production, with better arrangements. I'd like to hear also some accoustic guitar works.
I'd like to hear acoustic guitars aswell? : ok: and Axl and Izzy

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: nesquick on March 08, 2005, 11:34:55 AM
"Contraband" is a good album, but I'm sure it would have been twice better with a more ambitious production and with a more bluesy-rock direction.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: thejungle on March 08, 2005, 07:42:53 PM
whats this about sorum not liking o' brien? sounds like the band fucked up, they had the perfect opportunity to get rid of sorum while getting a top producer! :) :beer: :beer:


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Falcon on March 08, 2005, 09:46:46 PM
whats this about sorum not liking o' brien? sounds like the band fucked up, they had the perfect opportunity to get rid of sorum while getting a top producer! :) :beer: :beer:

I was mistaken, The Cult had considered O'Brien before moving onto Michael Beinhorn.

It was Beinhorn that Sorum didn't get along with, they finally decided on Bob Rock.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: coldenim on March 09, 2005, 12:32:33 AM
I sure hope this next album will not be recorded like contraband.  The sound was so muffled and confusing.  Of course it was a smart move, I just hope there in for a bigger picture.  I mean do you blame them, getting a modern producer to emulate the sound of recordings of the shit music today, to maybe strike a chord into mainstream, which is exactly what they did.  Now they can go anywhere with there music, and I hope they can find a real producer. Please bring in Mike Clink.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: banachkevin on March 11, 2005, 05:47:54 PM
It would be so cool if axl could produce this meaning that there was no hard feelings between them and axl could really do this,but then we would not see velvet revolvers next album would not come out for six years or so, to weeks after chines democracy.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: jimmythegent on March 13, 2005, 02:28:09 AM
mmm.. tough choice
rick rubin, bob ezrin, michael beinhorn, brendan o'brien or andy wallace


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: tippasaurus on March 15, 2005, 03:55:16 PM
I have to go with the obvious choice here...and I'm suprised no one has suggested it:

Bruce Dickinson

That's the one thing Contraband was missing....cowbell

VR should check out his work:

http://mknx.com/v/cowbell.wmv



 :hihi:


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: metallex78 on March 15, 2005, 09:50:51 PM
I think Brendan O'Brien would be a good choice too.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: chineseilusions on March 17, 2005, 12:35:48 AM
I think Brendan O'Brien would be a good choice too.
Amen to that I love the work he did on STP's Core and Korn's issues the guys in Korn say he is really good in getting the best out of them so I would love to see what he could do with VR


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Cocaine__tongue on March 22, 2005, 04:58:53 AM
Mike Clink, but pleeeeease, and if he's not secreatly joined gnr again, put izzy in the mix!!!


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: starchild_666 on April 19, 2005, 08:05:53 AM
Axl  :hihi:


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: IzzyDutch on April 19, 2005, 09:34:10 AM
Slash said in a radio interview that he heard from a mutual friend of him and Axl that Axl would've liked to produce Contraband.

My choice would be Mike Clink.


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Smoking Guns on April 20, 2005, 01:57:18 PM
Mutt Lange


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Marz on April 21, 2005, 03:52:51 PM
Axl? :hihi:

Yeah that would be fuckin brilliant. : ok:


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: slash4ever on April 21, 2005, 04:04:05 PM
AXL AXL AXL!!!

God that would be fucking brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!
 ;D


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: Jamie on April 23, 2005, 05:34:18 PM
Scott Weiland could do it himself. he's produced a few albums before


Title: Re: Who should produce the follow-up to Contraband?
Post by: boston on May 03, 2005, 04:40:55 PM
i think we already know the answer , but i will say it again-----MIKE "FUCKIN" CLINK------where was he when they made contraband ?