Here Today... Gone To Hell!

just bought the greatest hits from GN'r and noticed that Paul Huge played guitar on Sympathy for the devil. That song was recorded in 1994. I thought Giolby still was part of the band in 1994? Can anyone explain this to me?

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No Gilby left for some reason and Axl brought in Paul.  Apparently the rest of the band didn't like it and it was one of the main reason Slash left.

thats why paul is considered the Yoko Ono of Guns N Roses

Gilby did not leave, he was fired because he commented about Axl and when Axl read it he flipped out and fired Gilby. I don't see why the band hated Paul so much, c'mon, he played on parts, he is talented in the fact that he can play rhythm. I just think they felt insecure about themselves and Paul was the scapegoat for all their problems and frustrations.

They hated him b/c both SLash and Duff thought he was not a good guitar player, but what is more important, Axl brought him in and recorded his parts w/out asking anyone's opinion. And that suxx indeed, imho.

Yeah and according to Axl, they had no suggestions for a replacement for Gilby.



/jarmo

fuck off!  Paul was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.  The guy stood by Axl for a long ass time, which is more then you can say about the old bandmates. 

Too true

Well, since they did not want him fired... :)

I think it is definitely bad for Axl to be surrounded with those 'yes-men' even he thinks they are his friends. If someone tells you you are badly mistaken, they are not necessarily your enemies.

you know whats good for axl?  :confused:  Paul has been friends with Axl for a long fuckin time.  He was a lot like Izzy to Axl.   He's a good guitarist and a great friend. 

"Without Paul, there would be no Guns N' Roses'" Axl Rose, Rock In Rio III

I think the guy deserves respect.

As for the gilby situation, he has zero writing credits for GNR. He was hired to be a fill-in for Izzy. He grasped the songs quickly and was a solid player.

Then, there was no activity in the camp for a foreseeable while and he was let go. There was probably no intention of keeping him around to begin with.

Sorry to say that but Huge cannot play guitar, he was only Axl's yes-man (Beggars and Hangers-on...) who was brought to the band to have another guy (beside Dizzy) who sticks with Axl whatever the Redhead wants to do. In a band musicians can decide if they want to play with someone - but Axl thought that it was his band or, what's even worse, he came with Huge to kill the band.

And for that Axl quote... he isn't always telling the truth.  :no: Just think of his coments like 'everybody hated everybody except me'  :confused:  The truth is that Slash and Matt told in various interviews back then that they wanted Izzy to rejoin or Robin Finck (Matt's awful recommendation) or Ryan Roxie... I wonder if Axl haven't read those articles or they didn't tell him  :confused:

Gilby left because he didn't want to be in a band with 3 other guitarists. Axl mentioned to him that he was considering a move like that and Gilby didn;t want to be in a band like that. It was nothing personal or musical, though it did get personal when he sued GNR in 1996 for using his likeness in promotion materials. But they made up in 2000 when Axl came to a Gilby performance and sang with him.

MNR

Some fans took issue with what Axl said there...? As though Axl was crediting Paul with the existence of Guns N' Roses.
That's not it.? What he said was "there would be no more Guns N' Roses"... not there never would have been a Guns N' Roses.?


Glad Axl had at least a couple of his friends stick with him and I'd be happy to know if they're working together still or in the future.

thanks for all the replies'guys

still one question left. when did gilby leave / got fired. the beginning or the end of 1994? 'cause sympathy for the devil was released in 1994 with paul huge,but also gilby's solo album was released in 1994 featering mister axl rose. if they (gn'r/axl) wanted to get rid of gilby, then why did they all played on his solo album???

that doesn't make sense to me.

gilby also played with snakepit. so i can't imagine them getting rid of gilby and record some music with him a few months later.

They went to the studio after Axl had fired Gilby. They planned to record the song with only one guitarist (Slash, of course), but Axl didn't go to the studio on the day of recording, only the musicians. They recorded the song without him. The next day Axl went to the studio with Paul Tobias, did his vocal parts and made Tobias play extra guitar for the song without the others knowing anything about that. When Slash heard the final version, he got pissed off.

Thats exactly what I was thinking EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

interesting.

"INTERESTING" That all you have to say?? Can you give me more on that one???

I guess Slash and Duff could block the release of the song if it pissed them so much back then.
Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that Paul Tobias did an awesome job on SFTD, way better than any Gilby rhythm guitar on TSI... And I am a guitar player, I just can't see anything wrong with his skills (he did some mistakes at the RIR3 gig, though).

Interesting note, the very last Guns n' Roses ever Axl thanked Gilby and said he would hope to work with Gilby again real soon.  Then he made a joke about running away with his check. 

I recall reading somewhere that Gilby said he was never really fired, he just stopped getting calls one day. There was the whole 3 guitar player ordeal as well but it's all water under the bridge now.

I would of loved to here Gilby play on SFTD though. The Stones are Gilby's favorite band, Gilby would of played his heart out on that song. He a great guitarist, a million times more talented than Axl's personal sac licker.

Later,

DH






 

I just felt I needed to say something.

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In Their Own Words:

Slash: I saw the first screening [of Interview With A Vampire] with the Stone's version still on it, and I thought it was fine. Fuck, why do we need to do it? But then Axl went to see it and he loved the movie ? see, I hated it.

Slash: When the movie came (out in the US) a couple of months ago, Geffen called and said, "Could you do us a favor?" That movie coming out was a big issue for me, because the books ("The Vampire trilogy" by Anne Rice) were great. They have a real kind of passion in there - a sort of dark romanticism - and I'm a real heavy-duty, old time vampire horror movie freak. And it was like Tom Cruise AND Brad Pitt? No fucking way! So I got this call saying would we do "Sympathy For The Devil" for the movie. I thought, "well okay, maybe it'll be a vehicle to get the band back together and get the wheels in motion for some
pre-production stuff." So I went to the screening in one of those stiff theatres full of showbiz fucking suits, and I'm half
asleep! I'm not having a good time, and I couldn't just get up and leave, so I was trying to be cool. I started smoking some
cigarettes, which is not something you're meant to do in an LA cinema... it's like murder! So I got up and left before the
lights went out. I have to say Tom Cruise did the best he could, but the film's laughable to me. The Stones' version of the song was playing in the same place ours was meant to be. Anyway, I got up and went home. I called Doug (Goldstein) and said, "Leave it: the Stones' version's fine. There's no need to do a song that doesn't need to be redone." Then Axl went to see the film the next day, and it's inevitable that he likes it and comes out of the movie completely at odds with me! It just goes with the territory - I love this singer/lead guitarist relationship in bands... it's just fucking stupid! So Axl went and saw it and said he loved it. He was ecstatic. "Let's do the song!" he says. So I said "okay". We show up at the studio... who shows up? Matt, Duff and I. That was it. Paul Huge came in with Axl a couple of days later. While we were doing it (recording the song), we had to write down how many bars each section was, because without vocals you don't know where the next change is going to come. But we got it done and the guitar solos on and everything, and then Axl went in to do vocals... and the next thing you know, there's this "answer" guitar going on during my guitar solo! It's Paul Huge! I will probably never forgive Axl for that. But we talked about it. We made a deal that if Paul ever plays on anything, then I should at least be told first, because it really took me off guard. I wasn't there when he did it. Axl likes the song. I haven't listened to it since it was mixed. It's not like it was lousy guitar playing or anything; I think it's how it went down. If people like it, then fine. I haven't gone to see the movie again again because I don't think I could bear it.

I also read that Matt had an arguement with Paul cause he said some bad things about Slash in front of him, Matt asked him to apologize which he didn't, then he walked outside on the parking lot which Axl said to him, "You're gonna quit?" which Matt replied "No" on which Axl responded "Then you're fired". That's how matt was fired...

I can understand that Usurper!

Here is another question: Why was Paul Huge fired/let go/quit?

At least he played the Rocket Queen rythm just like Izzy. Gilby only played power chords - and that sucked big time.  : ok:

The official statement said that he didn't want to play in front of a big audience. The truth is unknown.

"This is my friend Paul Tobias. He has worked in the darkness undergroud for the last 7 years to be able to be here today. I think this makes his 4th or 5th show alltogther in his life. Without Paul there would be no more Guns N' Roses. Along with Paul, the only man from the old lineup who stayed loyal and worked hard everyday is on the keyboards, Mr. Dizzy Reed..."

stands to reason, its more than likely the truth  :peace:

though things do change...   ;)