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Title: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: jarmo on February 24, 2005, 08:05:04 PM
While appearing on Sex Pistols guitarist Steve Jones' Los Angeles radio show earlier this week, Westerberg revealed he recently recorded a song with Replacements bassist Tommy Stinson, which is expected to appear in Cameron Crowe's forthcoming film "Elizabethtown."

Full news article: http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000817154




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Evil Ash on February 24, 2005, 08:21:08 PM
Replacements bassist Tommy Stinson

Guns N' Roses bassist Tommy Stinson !!!!!!!!!!  >:(


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Dave_Rose on February 24, 2005, 08:58:31 PM
Replacements bassist Tommy Stinson

Guns N' Roses bassist Tommy Stinson !!!!!!!!!!? >:(

When will they get it right!!!


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Booker Floyd on February 24, 2005, 09:01:33 PM
Cool news :beer:

Cant wait to hear the song...



Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on February 24, 2005, 09:34:56 PM
so much for the "Axl won't let Tommy go over to Paul's and play..! *whaaah*  :hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: leesixxrose on February 25, 2005, 03:30:40 AM
I think there weill be a Pats reunion show before we hear anything from GnR...

Shit.. Tommy has had time to record a solo album, tour the states and europe...  and record with his old band.....

What the fuck is axls problem... If he lets Tommy go thats a huge mistake...


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Jizzo on February 25, 2005, 03:32:58 AM
well the fact that they both were in the replacements makes the fact that they reunited a big deal, if they said gnr, then it wouldn't be made out as a big  of a deal to the average fan


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Christos AG on February 25, 2005, 08:07:50 AM
Replacements bassist Tommy Stinson

Guns N' Roses bassist Tommy Stinson !!!!!!!!!!? >:(

When will they get it right!!!

When Axl will release the record and Tommy will be in the GNR members written in the booklet.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Pandora on February 25, 2005, 08:32:20 AM
I think there weill be a Pats reunion show before we hear anything from GnR...


I doubt it very much. Paul's interest in a reunion seems to have died down in the last couple of years. On Steve Jones' show the other day, he said it wouldn't be fair to do it without original drummer Chris Mars. Mars dedicates his entire career to visual art now, he's not interested in making music anymore.
Also, I have a feeling Tommy is pretty happy with where he is musically today. Going back and doing a reunion tour to play the "good ol' songs" would be kinda sad I think.  Paul played in LA 2 nights in a row at the beginning of the week. Tommy could have joined him if he had wanted. But he didn't.
So I don't think a Mats reunion will happen anytime soon. Which is probably for the better. Reunions are lame.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: madagas on February 25, 2005, 08:44:22 AM
Kinda sad like going on tour with a new band and playing almost all of AFD? :hihi: :hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Pandora on February 25, 2005, 09:34:15 AM
Kinda sad like going on tour with a new band and playing almost all of AFD? :hihi: :hihi:

Haha. I knew you would take the piss. So predictable.

Well, that was last time and hopefully the next will be different.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Mikkamakka on February 25, 2005, 09:37:33 AM
Kinda sad like going on tour with a new band and playing almost all of AFD? :hihi: :hihi:

Haha. I knew you would take a piss. So predictable.

Well, that was last time and hopefully the next will be different.

Axl said in early 2002 that was the start of something new. And they played the same setlist... But I hope the 'next time' you mentioned is near and in that case they'll surely play new songs.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 25, 2005, 09:45:26 AM
weren't several interview of both tommy and mark saying that they will never work together again ? ... i'm lost with all that.
there is one thing for sure, the new guns n roses is NOT band in the classical definition.
it's really freelance workers working for a "genius". they can say they like it. this is not their band, and maybe they know it.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: madagas on February 25, 2005, 09:46:41 AM
Pandora, it was too easy. Paul and Tommy seem very amicable lately. I actually think Paul would do it if Tommy would. They take swipes at each other but I believe alot of times it is just tongue in cheek. ?;) ps Chris Mars is the Steven Adler of the Mats...not exactly an important part of the group. Anyone could play his fills.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: nesquick on February 25, 2005, 10:10:40 AM
While appearing on Sex Pistols guitarist Steve Jones' Los Angeles radio show earlier this week, Westerberg revealed he recently recorded a song with Replacements bassist Tommy Stinson, which is expected to appear in Cameron Crowe's forthcoming film "Elizabethtown."

Full news article: http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000817154


/jarmo
I don't think it's a good news for GN'R. I see that as a message from tommy, something like "if nothing happened with GN'R, I would rejoin paul and reform the Replacement, I need to do something".
a few month ago Tommy said he would never work with Paul again, that it's over, that he is 100% behing Axl and blablabla, and now we learn he made a song with Paul a few weeks ago...come on...I think this is a clear message toward the GN'R situation.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: jarmo on February 25, 2005, 10:38:17 AM
I don't think it's a good news for GN'R. I see that as a message from tommy, something like "if nothing happened with GN'R, I would rejoin paul and reform the Replacement, I need to do something".

Didn't you know he has a solo career?

If nothing happens with GN'R, I hope that he'll record another solo album.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Johnnyblood on February 25, 2005, 10:39:51 AM
That's insane. I actually gasped when I read the headline on the main page here. Stunner. But then again, maybe not. When you get older you tend to forget all those things that piss you off. This won't affect GNR.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Pandora on February 25, 2005, 10:46:56 AM
Pandora, it was too easy. Paul and Tommy seem very amicable lately. I actually think Paul would do it if Tommy would. They take swipes at each other but I believe alot of times it is just tongue in cheek.  ;) ps Chris Mars is the Steven Adler of the Mats...not exactly an important part of the group. Anyone could play his fills.

Hey, I never said they were not on good terms, although that collaboration seems to have marked the first time they saw each other in person in 6 or 7 years. But Tommy seems to have moved on musically. And you can say what you want about Chris being unimportant in the equation. The fact is he's an original member and it wouldn't go down too well with the fans if he was replaced (pun non intended). Not to mention they don't have any lead guitarist. I don't think Bob is going to come back from the dead and Slim Dunlap is not interested. That leaves us with two members. Kinda half-assed if you ask me.  :-\


I don't think it's a good news for GN'R. I see that as a message from tommy, something like "if nothing happened with GN'R, I would rejoin paul and reform the Replacement, I need to do something".
a few month ago Tommy said he would never work with Paul again, that it's over, that he is 100% behing Axl and blablabla, and now we learn he made a song with Paul a few weeks ago...come on...I think this is a clear message toward the GN'R situation.

No, there's no clear message, just the product of one of your paranoid deliriums.
Tommy never said he wouldn't work with Paul. He said he wouldn't take part in a Mats reunion. Working on a song for a movie score does not exactly equal impending reunion.
After all, Izzy worked with Slash & Duff in the infancy of VR. Did he join the band? No. He also recorded a few songs with Steven. Did they form a band together? No.
OK, I admit Izzy is probably not the best example out there, but I'm too lazy to think of another one. If anyone has a better example, feel free to post it here.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: nesquick on February 25, 2005, 10:54:45 AM
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No, there's no clear message, just the product of one of your paranoid deliriums.

calm down...


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: madagas on February 25, 2005, 11:00:32 AM
She's got her attitude and shiny shoes! I think Tommy also worked with Paul some on Stereo/Mono in the "Granpaboy" band. Actualy, I am pretty sure he did. You hear him distinctly on track 3 and 7 doing background vocals. Great album. I'll bet Slim would be interested if the money was right! :peace:


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Pandora on February 25, 2005, 11:05:21 AM
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No, there's no clear message, just the product of one of your paranoid deliriums.

who do you think you are to talk to me in that way? because you are moderator you think you have all the rights you want?

Haha, you're funny. Too bad I know more things about you than you have an idea of. You're not only paranoid but a complete nutcase.
It has nothing to do with me being a moderator. If I had a 10 post count I would say the exact same thing. The thing is you consistently take every little insignificant piece of news and distort it to make it something negative when there's really no reason to. Plus you obviously have no knowledge on the situation you're commenting (the Replacements situation).
Some people would call you a pessimist, I call you paranoid. Sorry, I tend to be a bit blunt.
Now if you want to continue complaining about me harrassing you or something, I suggest you to do it by PM. Because god only knows what kind of crazy things can go through my head when the thread gets out of hand ;)


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Pandora on February 25, 2005, 11:07:34 AM
I think Tommy also worked with Paul some on Stereo/Mono in the "Granpaboy" band.

Uh, actually no. It was a rumour that made the rounds at the time (no idea why), and both Paul and Tommy shot it down.
I didn't make up the 6-7 years figure, it's something both guys said in recent interviews ;)


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: madagas on February 25, 2005, 11:18:11 AM
I couldn't remember if it was ever shot down. I guess your right. Still a great record. :D


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: nesquick on February 25, 2005, 11:24:45 AM
Pandora-->PM.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Nytunz on February 25, 2005, 11:30:21 AM
I don't have time to write you a PM. Don't give yourself an importance you don't have. ;)
I think Tommy also worked with Paul some on Stereo/Mono in the "Granpaboy" band.

Uh, actually no. It was a rumour that made the rounds at the time (no idea why), and both Paul and Tommy shot it down.
I didn't make up the 6-7 years figure, it's something both guys said in recent interviews ;)

Hey! Children! Back to topic!  ;)


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: nesquick on February 25, 2005, 11:33:41 AM
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Hey! Children! Back to topic!
No problemo :)


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: RICHEY on February 25, 2005, 03:32:44 PM
The Replacements are one of the most respected bands of all time.If they got back together it would be huge, not sad.If you want sad watch Axl's vma performance.Alot of kids never saw the replacements live,add to that their old fanbase,they could sell out ballrooms easy.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: nesquick on February 25, 2005, 03:44:58 PM
I knew "the replacement" before tommy joined GN'R. I knew this band name. I know this is a respected band.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on February 25, 2005, 04:20:44 PM
I think it's great that Tommy recorded ONE song with Paul.  But its obvious that he wants to show the fruits of his labor with GNR.  He obviously had alot to do with CD and seems like he's with Axl hell or high water.  Paul and Tommy had legendary fights back in the day.  And remember Paul is a control freak.  And from what we've read Axl is not music-wise.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: nesquick on February 25, 2005, 04:27:07 PM
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But its obvious that he wants to show the fruits of his labor with GNR.
That's what I tried to explain. But come on man, I think we are "paranoids" :hihi: :rofl:


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on February 25, 2005, 04:33:51 PM
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But its obvious that he wants to show the fruits of his labor with GNR.
That's what I tried to explain. But come on man, I think we are "paranoids" :hihi: :rofl:

Sometimes we all are. But sometimes it's better to look on the outside of the box in.  It'll save us alot of heartache if we can refrain from getting to personal about this band.  Hell, They're not personal to us!


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Pandora on February 25, 2005, 06:58:17 PM
Back to the original topic, it seems that there's a mistake in the report and that the song was not recorded for the film "Elizabethtown" but for a Sony animated movie which is slated to come out next year (I think it's called "Open season").
That's what I thought when I first read it but I didn't have any sources at hand to back it up so I refrained from posting it. But a reputable source on the Mats newsgroup just said the same thing, so I guess it's true. Or there's at least two of us who had the same hallucination  :hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: GypsySoul on February 25, 2005, 08:15:20 PM
Elizabethtown and Open Season are two seperate projects.? ::)


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Pandora on February 27, 2005, 05:23:55 PM
Elizabethtown and Open Season are two seperate projects.  ::)

I know that, thank you. But the song they recorded together seems to be for Open season.

Edit : I finally managed to find a source for that :

Paul : Tommy [Stinson] and I actually played in L.A. just three weeks ago ? he came down with [drummer] Josh Freese and we [recorded a song] for Open Season. And that was strange. I hadn?t seen him in about eight years, and we hadn?t played together in that long. But it was just like it was yesterday. I didn?t have to tell him what key it was.

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/05/13/music-pierce.php




Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Christos AG on February 28, 2005, 10:55:38 AM
I didn?t have to tell him what key it was.


Strange, that's not what Tommy has said about Paul in his recent interviews...


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Saul on February 28, 2005, 12:11:57 PM


Paul : Tommy [Stinson] and I actually played in L.A. just three weeks ago ? he came down with [drummer] Josh Freese a



Josh Freese and Tommy hanging together huh? Hmmmmmm ....  lol , ok , I wont think too much into that.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: madagas on February 28, 2005, 12:27:49 PM
Thanks for the interview Pandora. Clears things up pretty good. Now, I really want a Mats reunion...or at least see Tommy and Paul do an album together.


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: jarmo on February 28, 2005, 12:32:04 PM
Josh Freese and Tommy hanging together huh? Hmmmmmm ....? lol , ok , I wont think too much into that.


I don't think you should. Josh was the one who told Tommy about GN'R looking for a bass player.

They're friends.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Nytunz on February 28, 2005, 01:03:39 PM
Josh Freese and Tommy hanging together huh? Hmmmmmm ....? lol , ok , I wont think too much into that.


I don't think you should. Josh was the one who told Tommy about GN'R looking for a bass player.

They're friends.




/jarmo



Yes, and Josh is touring with Sting this summer... And i also think he has contract with APC, and will be back with them After Maynard`s done with Tool in a couple of years..


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Saul on February 28, 2005, 01:07:34 PM
Ok , cool cool. You know how it is .. everybody speculates who's "in and "out" and with Buckethead gone everybody wonders about brain and whatnot.

didnt know Josh had all that going on with sting et all.  : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy records song with Paul Westerberg
Post by: Continental Drift on March 01, 2005, 12:38:58 AM
Unless Tommy gets some news that GN'R is dead in the water and CD is never coming out or whatever... I don't think he'll jeopardize his position in GN'R to get back with Paul and the rest of the Replacements. I think he'd rather give something new a chance rather than go down the road of getting back together with people that he already knows usually ends up in a very very difficult situation. It's kind of interesting though- Tommy is arguably the most star-crossed musician ever... both the Replacements and Guns N' Roses will, as of now, go down as two of the biggest bands that never managed to achieve all the greatness that was there for the taking if they just got their sh1t together...