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can anyone tell me the answer to this:

at the end of the adam sandler movie big daddy, as the credits role, there is a version of sweet child. it sounds live, and features someone shouting figaro figaro figaro. anyone heard this and know where its from??

That's the first recording of the new band that we got to hear.

Actually, it starts with the old band but then morphs into the new band at that time playing SCOM.


A news story about it: New Guns N' Roses Makes Mystery Debut; Live Album Sessions Underway (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=139)


/jarmo

http://www.newgnr.com/dloads/audio/GNR_SweetChild_BigDaddy-newgnrdotcom.mp3

Don't know if I can post this (in other case sorry  :peace:)

I wonder how axl got the okay to rerecord part of sweet child and release it but not get the okay to release a rerecorded jungle?

i know its an old subject but can some1 quickly tell me what songs axl redid vocal wise and band wise on live era?

I know he def did Estranged but somebody will help you out with the rest

Dizzy was good with that from what I remember; unfortunately hes no longer with us.  :'(


I think the fact that it was only half-new, not featured on a soundtrack, uncredited, and placed deep in the credits allowed him to get away with it.

I really like this here new/old SCOM and all.
Someone should have told Axl that according to Holy Bible it is a massive fucking SIN to have something to do with a movie that stars Adam Sandler though.
I pray for his mortal soul.


 

I havent listened to this file in a long time so I gave it another spin tonight .. erm ahhhh ...  :nervous:

I'd like to hear the new band and todays axl give us their interpretation of Appetite ... I think some songs would undergo massive changes. I dont even know what to think about this one .. robin really changes slashes solo alot .. but if I didnt hear slash play it originally how would I feel about it? hmmmmm

thats the only problem with this new band recording the AFD material .. it wouldnt be able to stand on it's own as it would face constant comparisons to the original. would be interesting though.

i miss him and MrId

I haven't heard that in ages. God, Axl's voice in the live part of that song is shredded. He sounds great on the 'nu-GnR' half of the song though. As for Robin's solo....dear god what a pile of crap that was. Talk about shitting all over one of the greatest guitar solos ever.

Maybe you and I have different ideas about how things like this should be done. I usually prefer it when a band does a re-recording or a cover, if it's actually different instead of a note for note copy of the original. Robin played the solo in his style. I don't think he tried copying Slash at all. Sure, it was influenced by the original solo....

Why do you think they added an organ to the song if they just wanted to record a version that was close to the original one?



/jarmo

cheers jarmo, it had the hell confused out of me

Axl's voice in the whole song is the same, it was fully a new recording.

Like Avril Lavigne with KOHD  :nervous: ;D

Read the article from mtv.com, it says that the first part of the song is a live recording of the old band in Paris, and halfway through it switches to a studio recording from the new band.  Axl sounded great at the end of that new recording, if he sounds like that on the new album then we're in great shape

mmh  that`s a matter of taste   i really like both solos the robin one and the slash one, ya know, both have pro`s and con?s...


and they use the organ in the live versions, too. right?

I think the organ is great. And I'd have not problem with Robin doing his own thing, but he's playing what is pretty much Slash's solo and not doing it very well. It doesn't take a musician with perfect pitch to hear that he's bending a lot of notes badly out of tune and the phrasing is ahead of the beat which just makes it sound like someone not doing a good job of copping Slash's lead in SCOM.

I love Robin's playing most of the time. I think he's a great player but that solo just shocked me. He's capable of much better, unless he was doing a piss take and I missed the joke. Or maybe everyone is so hard up for new GnR that they are willing to accept that as good guitar playing. If Chinese Democracy ever sees the light of day and thats the kind of playing thats on it then I will be severly let down.

Robins solo is a tad rusty but Axl's still got it!!!

The thing about that Robin solo that drives me up a wall is the way he bends notes just to bend notes, rather than to bend them with the goal of acheiving a different pitch.  Drives me crazy when people do that.

I meant the vocals are all new.

Exactly.

Indeed the entire vocals seem to be new. Axl is getting hard to sound like he used to be but still this voice rocks! If he sounds like that in Chinese Democracy, hell yeah!
But this recording is a little old (98), now it's 2005. In the 2001-02 shows Axl didn't sing that way. Maybe it's bad for him to sing like that and he saves the electric,raw stuff of his voice only for the studio album.
I don't know, maybe some people can enlighten me about the vocals stuff?

I just listened to that track again after first waiting to hear this so called ` new gnr `at the end credits of big daddy.................and its still as bad as when i heard it then.

I remember looking around at the nearly empty cinema, a handfull of people left in the seats, on comes the song, we sit and listen, i have to adjust my ears because i cant believe how bad the second half of the song is, and it seemed as though i wasnt the only one, a few people just shaking their heads in disbeleif as was too my girlfriend who isnt that big of a gnr fan but she like most of their stuff.

Listening to the song again, the guitar feels so out of place and out of synch its a crime!
Even axls voice sounds way too cheesy on the first `where do we go nows`.........

.........And that really is a shame.

So you liked the bass, drums and organ?  :hihi:

I think that's Josh Freese on drums by the way.



/jarmo

Well, i didnt see fit to put my ears through anymore torture to go into a major indepth analysis after 2 main focus points kinda killed the song,

The drums didnt seem to bad actually, a little plain jane sounding, but acceptable.

But u have to admit, they absolutely ruined the song in the ` new ` 2nd half.

I share a completely different opinion.

i think Robin Finck did the SCOM solo brilliant. he twisted but it sounds so cool and so fresh. cuss me if u want. i dont care.

Sometimes I love it more than the original. I like the organ addition and Axl's voice is really cool anyway. I guess the re-recorded Appetite for Destruction will sound that way.

I always thought Axl redoing this song on the credits of a mediocre film as one of the dumbest career moves he ever made. Especially since the world hadn't heard from him in years. In fact maybe doing it was a curse. because since that we've had Oh my God, the ill advised 2002 tour, and nothing. The only good thing that came out of that tour is the fact that he played a few new songs. So if CD is never released, thank the Curse of Big Daddy!! LOL

Yeah. I think the rhythm section is tight, the organ is nice touch that would have sounded great in the original. The vocals in the second half are good too. The guitar playing sounds rushed. It's not much better than what you might hear coming from any bar band trying to cover SCOM. I just think Robin is capable of much better playing. I sure has hell wouldn't have kept that take of the guitar solo.