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With all this talk of axl saying he wished he produced contraband and the fact he has or had taken over production duties of Chinese Democracy , could it be a sign that Axl may be interested in becoming a fully fledged producer in the future?

Maybe the lenghty process of getting his album done is just axl really wanting to learn the ropes , tricks and techniques inside out and seeing as this is his project on his clock he can take his sweet time to do it right and learn as much as possible?

Maybe it's the reason why band members allude to so many alternate takes/tracks?

Obviously at Axl's age he is gunna be looking for something different 5 - 10 years down the road career wise and maybe music production could be right up his album. If he follows through and ends up as final producer of Democracy with his name credited as such and the album becomes the huge success we hope then that surely will get him some respect as a producer.

Maybe his goal is to produce the next 3 GNR albums to fully grasp the job before moving into a full time job as producer?!

Just something to ponder.  :peace:

no

i dont see many bands wanting to go 5 or 6 years without releasing a cd


i do believe axl learning the behind the scenes of the music business and learning the computer aspects of producing music is a huge reason for all the time thats past

u take axl modernizing himself with music production,putting together a band with the right chemistry and write the kick ass songs needed that would take a very long time!

You dont think it's at all possible that later on down the road it wouldnt be something Axl might be interested in?



I really dont see it taking that long seeing as it would be someone elses band and music and the fact that most bands have a pretty good idea of what they want and have most songs pretty much structured before they hit the studio. Add in the fact that given another couple years Axl should be pretty comfortable and "in the know" in a producers chair (if he isnt allready) and that should point to it not taking 5 years for him to produce another bands album.

I would love to see it happen though , I mean if he has to retire from "active duty" as a performer it would be nice to know he is still "involved" in some other capacity.

Or maybe he could just be a voice actor for video games. Or webmaster for gnronline.com!!  :peace:

Sure, he also recruited Beta back in 92 so he can learn everything from her and start working as a babysitter...

Not to mention Earl's influence... He is seriously thinking of becoming a bodyguard...


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No bands or Artists would hire Axl as a Producer, because "things" are taking tooooo long...  :-\  :hihi:

I think Axl is out there learning the ropes, what for I'm not sure. He seems to be the type that wants to get as much involved in the process as possible.

I think he will continue with this type or related type of work when he becomes inactive with tourin  :)

he might help some poeple from time to time, but I don't think he will be doing much.. He can't accomplish one album, and anyone interested in being busy in the now don't need axl..

Who knows though

I wouldn't consider the referenced rumour as a sign... but it does give way to some interesting thoughts to ponder, as you have pointed out... so cool thread idea.  : ok:

I think it would be very cool if Axl was interested in doing production of music for other artists.
He has made comments over the years that show he has a real love of music production - and a lot of interest int he different technologies available..  Also that he likes so many different types/genres of music means he can appreiciate different styles and not
try to make everything sound like rock or what have you.  From the beginiing - with AFD - Axl recognized and expressed the importance of not just the recording process - but the PRODUCTION of the music.. and how it can affect the final product. 
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=13395.msg234983#msg234983

Seems - hell yeah - I could definitey see Axl wanting to and becoming a producer for hire.

And I disagree with some of the comments in this thread - I think the guys phone would be LIT UP with requests for hiring him.
Regardless of the status of CD's release - or its commercial success... Axl's talent IS already recognized by other artists.

I think he has been VERY involved in the production of CD all along ...even before he actually became the producer for CD.

I think Slash was only joking when he said that about Axl ???

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

I think he was creditied on the first APC album as like an enginner or something but I could be wrong...

Why are you being sarcastic? Its a good thought and might be a possibility

I think it might be something Axl has thought about. If Axl was to be a producer I'm sure he would  be one of the best in biz. His talent as a singer would just get better, The problem is his name would be on the album as the producer, so he might want it to sound perfect and we all know what that means :-\  Shit! look at the poor guys track record, personally I'd keep the day job.   

 :-[

Just trying to spark some different conversation other then release date rumors and speculation about who's in or not in the band .. sorry if I hit a bad nerve?  ???

Anyways , I think he would be a pretty sought after producer if/when democracy is a big hit! If he can get a couple successful albums under his belt with him as the producer then he certainly has something to put on his future resume right? And factor in the brilliant lyrics we all have come to expect from Axl , I mean what songwriter wouldnt want Axl with them going over their lyrics and fine tuning them a little?!

As for the recording process taking as long as "democracy" .. that , IMHO , is rubbish ... should axl ever become a producer for other bands theres different rules and applications that would apply ... most bands are NOT afforded the luxury that axl and GNR have been given these years .. most bands have a deadline to get in and out of a studio that must be adhered too. Furthermore , most bands have their songs pretty much written and crafted before entering a studio these days , so the issue of axl "keeping" them in a studio for a lenghty period of time wouldnt even be a factor as far as I'm concerned.

If I ever had a chance to speak with/interview Axl the question would be at the top of my list as I'm very interested to know if the man has plans as to what , if anything , he wants to do when he decides his "performing" career is over.

peace. :peace:

Well, I'd love Axl to produce my bands album some day (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/musik/music-smiley-026.gif)? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

I most certainly wouldnt mind sitting down with Axl and "fine tuning" my lyrics.  :beer:

Axl's reputation isn't so great right now. He's viewed as a mad genius, a Darger of the music world, locked away in his basement formulating an epic musical tome. He is also viewed as being difficult to work with, namely he demands total control, whether true or not.

I think the redhead would have to extend himself more publicly for the industry to give him a chance as a producer. CD also has to be a huge hit.

well this is pretty much what I'm saying .. if this album is a sucess and then he get's another album or two of his own with him as producer under his belt then he could maybe set himself up for the role.

I'm thinking more long term then say next year or the year after .. I mean maybe 5 - 10 years down the road.  : ok:

I think his priority is to get those damn albums out and tour the world. Oh, and be more successful than VR....

I think his priority is to make us suffer.

Ok, another great post...

Get a life.

I agree 100% that in the here and now that is his goal .. but I'm speculating on what his goals may be further on down the road when the touring and performing is done.  :peace:

 :hihi: haha , get a life ? if picking a fight with a total stranger over the internet is having a life then I think I'll stick with not having a life thank you.

it's equally likely he hides inside his house for another ten years. there is no way to know any of this.

Axls too caught up in Yodas magic world of energy fields and monsters to ever have a producing career.

i think that when it all comes together for him (success of CD, the band etc...) - the two elements - being a producer (for hire etc) and performer can be run side by side. Many other musicians can achieve success in both fields at the same time...

one other thing IMHO - the guy is only 43 - i can fully envisage he keeps touring/performing etc... for another 20 years. a lot of the classic rock guys/bands had 'comebacks' later in their life... i hope his is soon and successful. ?:)

I don't think it's the reason for the delay. At least it's not intentional.

But yeah, In consequence, he possibly hasfound his talent for music production as a by-product. 
The process of Chinese Democracy could be preparing him for a "not near" future career as a producer.  :peace:

yeah, totally agree, cheers t 2 that? : ok: many others have been succesful later in their life, so ? :)
 :wave: welcome 2 the board btw, have fun? :beer:

well , duh! Anything "could" happen and nobody "knows" what it will be! He could run for president! he could become a high school gym teacher! I'm just throwing out something for the sake of conversation and not assuming that this "is" what he is going to do.

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for real!? geez..!? you've had to say that like 4 or 5 times already... what is with some people*?!

*not you KV*  :love:  hehe

Once the CD(s) are released and the tours are under their belt - Axl has the world of options available to him.
It would be kick ass if he continued to find pleasure in the music business.
Hopefully its something he could do while pursuing other personal dreams...?
like if having a family is still something he'd like to do...? ?: ok:

You're welcome. Still, I suggest you get a life and stop posting stupid meaningless messages...

Well you asked the question, I answered it twice.

Once again, in the absence of any material by which the industry can judge Axl's production, there is no way anyone can argue the issue either way.  It's possible Axl hates the production side of the business yet does so because he doesn't trust anyone with his songs. It's equally possible that he has learned enough skills in the past 7 years that he can work on the production side. It all depends on Uncle Axl and the quality of Chinese Democracy. Axl's reputation and the length of this project are counting against him, but all could be forgiven if CD is a masterpiece.

I sincerely hope not. The greatest rock n roll front man of all time has no place behind a mixing board for the rest of his life.

It would break my heart to see him like that  :peace:

Axl is a rich guy who doesn't need to get up early to work like us.....he'll do what he wanna....he doesn't need to work anymore...i'm wrong about?  ::)