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In January 2005, Slash gave a brief interview on the UK's Virgin Radio.  The most interesting part came when the DJ asked whether Axl had contacted Slash to congratulate him on the success of VR.  Slash replied that he had not spoken to Axl personally.  But, talking to a 'mutual friend', he had learned Axl's reaction to Contraband.  Axl does, apparently, wish that 'he had produced' the album.  The DJ then quipped 'yeah, release date 2010', and Slash laughed.

What Axl meant by this is anyone's guess.  Was he admiring the album, and wishing he had been involved?  Or was he critising it, saying that he could have produced it better?

Despite assuming that Slash is telling the truth (not a certainty), the story gains credibility because the reaction is neither too positive or negative.  Any thoughts:  revealing, or b/s?



The interview can he heard at
>http://www.virginradio.co.uk/music/artists/velvet_revolver/index.html.

I just can't imgine Axl saying this...  :-\

This isn't no surprise to me. Axl has always listened to the ex members albums. I would be kinda curious as to which ex member solo album is Axl's favorite.

hmm this means Axl likes VR and wishes he had produced the album... hmmm

Hardly.

It could mean he thought the album blew and his production might have improved it.

Very probable.  Axl is a control freak after all, and even if he's not involved with Slash anymore, he's still probably thinking "he should have done it this way!" 

That's interesting. thanks for posting.

If that's all true, he wasn't dissing it but perhaps he meant he could have produced it better.
I don't think it's complete BS. I bet Axl is really into producing records lately.

I definitely take this as a positive comment.. if Axl were talking about a shit record, I doubt he'd wish he was a part of it.

I didnt think they had any "mutual friends" left  :-\

But if it's true - can you imagine Dirty Little Thing with a piano added, and a couple of cowbells?

I think it just means Axl thinks he could of made the album much, much, much more better than it is already. I wonder how it would sound if he did produce it? Would it have been better? Would we still be waiting for it?

this seems to be true, this is too odd subject to be a lie, I guess...

that's very interesting...it's a kind of "cold" rapprochement through a "comun friend"...maybe the first step to a reconcilliation?

:no:
Don't think so.

funny? ;D makes u wonder...? ::)

I think it's a dis. In other words: "As usual, Slash and Duff can't ever reach their full potential unless I'm there to control them." We all know how "fond" Axl was of S+D's solo work thus far- I think VR is no different in Axl's eyes. :hihi:

well one of the older threads on here i recall said that axl had listened to the album and actually thought it was good, which prompted him to make his album better.

Thats not a perfect re telling on whatever i read here but it was something like that.

So i guess chinese democracy in axls eyes is not as good as contraband. Which means it wont be a very good GNewR album if all this is true.

it wouldnt be out if axl was to produce it

That little smart ass comment of Axl producing it then it would be released in 2010 pisses me off BUT.........

I have to say I agree with him it probably would  :peace:

I'm sure Axl somehow got his hands on an advanced copy of Contraband, being among the most curious to hear it.

His reputed take on the album seems much like what he's said in the past regarding his ex-band mate's efforts.  Good ideas and parts...but he could have made it better.

produced it! HA id rather hear what kind of lyrics or impact Axl would of had if he would of been part of the album. what kind of swing he would of put on Fall to pieces? or slither? My guess is the album would of been alot different more introspective, one thing about VR i dont like is the lyrics

Produced it! HA im more interested in wondering what the record would of sounded like with Axl's lyrics behind it

Produced it! HA I guess he would put an orchestra on Big Machine.  :hihi:

we all know those demos/alt takes sound better than the versions that made t he album no?

He probably digs some of it, I'm sure they still have a lot of respect for each others talents even if they don't really like each other as people anymore. I'm sure the VR will dig Chinese Democracy if it ever sees the light of day. I don't see why they wouldn't admit it such a thing either. You can hate someone personally and still regard them as a great talent.

When Contraband first came out, everyone was talking about the production. Im sure this is what Axl meant. It doesnt always sound as raw as people were expecting. Set me Free sounds good, but other songs like Big Machine and Illegal I sound overproduced, like the sound and scotts voice are mushed together electronically. Maybe VR are trying to fix that with the re-released versions. But I havent heard them yet.

Axls Oh My God is also overproduced IMO.

Because Axl says this makes me believe he reads the internet, because everyone was criticizing the production when it was on VH1's site a day or 2 before its release.

No.

sounds like Slash was being sarcastic.

anyone ever seen that movie "Amadeus"?

remember when Mozart attended Salieri's *SP* opera and told him he didnt know music like that was possible

Salieri *SP* thought he was complimenting him but Mozart was really shitting on him?

if axl said that i say he was shitting on them.

Good point D, I suppose that's possible too.

IMO its the opposite, its very poorly mixed, lacking clarity and seperation between the instruments.

Didn't Axl mention that it's actually a demo recording and wasn't intended to be released?

I think this just proves that Axl loves to be in the studio... (obviously)...

I think the guy likes to make music still and produce it and write it....

I think the touring thing isnt his ball of wax anymore...

I only say this coz he didnt say " I wish i had sung on that"...  Even some of the new members say that axl hasnt finished the vocals for his own album....

I think Axl would prob do a god damn good job producing an album since hes been doing it for about 10 years now...

Hehehe! Hell yea! Axl is Mozart and Slash is Salieri!! :D

Yes, I can and it actually sounds pretty cool in my head. With the tempo a little bit slower and Axl's rasping voice I think it would be really great!

Axl is a turd...he obviously isnt into the whole rock thing anymore because hes putting all this keyboard shit over the songs.

Axl obviously wants to erase the thought that some of the best songs and most successfull songs were made with the old guys.

Whereas his new stuff isnt as popular hes getting pretty pissed.

i dont no why but 4 sum reason, i think the new gn'r songs are some of the best. theyr betta than sum TSI songs. and i think once they release chinese democracy, it'll be betta than contraband. the new songs i've hurd r betta than n e snakepit or VR songs from what i've hurd. ATM, i think Axl has the best instrumentalists in his bands. VR arent that good.

If you think the new songs are better than TSI, how du you rate TSI agains UYIs and AFD?

And by the way, it's written some, better, any, are and heard. Just in case you're ever writing a school paper or the like ;)

yeah, no offense, and I know some of the rules on here are to never give a fuck about spelling but the way you write is confusing.  If your mother tongue is not english I apologize (mine is french) but If it is... I would appreciate if you tried a little harder and write  intelligibly. :peace:

As for the new songs I like madagascar better than Half of the old songs. And rhiad is like nothing I have ever heard, So I would like to hear rhiad-like songs on ChiDem.

thats coz his new stuff is crap....

and that's coming from a nikki sixx fan ladies and gents.  :hihi:  laughable.

How in the hell do we know if his new stuff is not popular? I remind you people that the new album is not out yet  :P

I think Slash is talking out of his ass.   Slash didn't talk about Axl this much when he was in the band, for Christ's sake.  This guy used to be my favorite member of the band, and now he cries and whines like Jose Canseco.  He should shut up and be happy with the fact that people are buying that glossy turd that he just dropped.

Amen Shoeboy017.  The way I see it is that Slash would go back in GNR in a second if Axl would want him back.  I used to respect Slash and he was my favourite too.  But now.  I only see him as a whining b*tch and a liar.

Unless he makes a step forward to show the past is past and all...

He could well think it's good work.

Why would one want to produce an album unless that person were sure it was going to work out and that their money wouldn't be " lost" ?

I think it's a compliment and that some of you are completely paranoid.

I agree with you,.. extremly improbable.

I must be alone in thinking His voice sounds rather pleased  ;D and a bit blushed  :-[ with that.

well if you dont like it thats your opinion.. but answer something for me.. what the hell are you doing at a gnr board if you dont like the new guns n roses.. seriously, why would you be posting here?  too be a nuisance or tool?

but back to the topic.. i believe this is just $lash trying to draw more lame attention to his sorry ass.   If axl said that, its because he knows $lash and Duff are more talented then what they did on Contraband.. the most mediocre album of 2004.   He probably thinks they are wasting their talent.

Slash is just using Axl in conversations to help market that peace of shit called Contraband because it aint selling so well. god, AFD sold 7 million in 88, thats just in the u.s, contraband has not even hit the two million mark.

well its hardly a compliment and its hardly a diss - a very ambiguous statement

id take it with a grain of salt personally

Oh my goodness. GnR fans are more insane than the actual members. Slash mentioning the word 'AXL' helps him market Contraband. Because 2 million copies is not good. Is this a joke?

Are you aware that times have changed?

2 million copies today is too fuckin much... In less than a year...

No Bands or Artist would hire Axl as a producer, because he would never be finish... ::) :hihi:

lol :hihi:

so r u trying to say that Axls a better songwriter than Sixx?? thats laughable... but lets not turn this into a Motley vs Guns thread.... This is a VR vs Guns thread.....

You may find it laughable, but I'm afraid you're pretty much on your own with that opinion.

on this board im sure i am...  lol

No it isn't. There's no "versus" going on here, this thread is about Axl's supposed opinion of Contraband.

I don`t think that Axl said something like that. I don`t like Contraband, I bought it and listened a few times but that`s it. Axl`s new stuff is imo better than most songs of old gnr. And if Axl said that it was definetely a compliment, but i doubt that he said it and he was right if he`d say that Slash and Duff are wasting their talent. I really like Slash`s Snakepit for example and I haven`t heard Duff`s Solo stuff, but Contraband is not a good album in my eyes.

& is why I'll comment cuzzz I never got into the vs crap for it will warp your mind. a couple points

1. Slash is really opennly honest like too honest at times. He talks. He was asked a simple question
2. The mutual friend can simply be Duff as over recent years is the one kept friendly & some werid friendly conversations with Axl
3. I think if this was his congrats = Its an open comment & quite smart. The fact is that the CB album was rushed a bit. So the comment can lay a little sarcasm (esp with the time factor), as well as saying nothing great or bad.

so for those of you who say "well don't see Axl saying that"  >>  wtf?  warped

-BP

let me add ....    8) how fucking kool would it be if Axl was on VH1 doing the project with them!!!!  kind of like Izzy helped at times but of course Axl on the Deck mixing on camera!! haha

-bp