Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Don't you think it pisses them off to have fans ask them over and over again, wherever they go and even when they play with other bands:

" when is chinese democracy coming ooooooout" ?

hmm...they get sick of the question maybe, but guess they understand the fans  :peace:

they deserve it (http://www.daysofthenewfanclub.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/096.gif)

But do the fans understand " them" ?

Well fans are number one to musicians well I think the bands memeber do understand that people are moaning becauseits such a long wait and you can understand why its such an annoying question but it one that has to be asked

very induvidual maybe... yeah... ?:hihi:

" has to be asked" ?

I don't agree.

That's a damn good question and must be a vexing one for them more than the question they?re asked

maybe if they released the album they wouldn't have to asnwer it.. :hihi:

I think they're smart enough to know that those questions will be asked so they're prepared.


Some people were disappointed because I didn't ask Tommy more about GN'R when I talked to him. But he wasn't there to promote GN'R. The fact that he cared to answer the questions I had about GN'R, I consider that to be a nice bonus.





/jarmo

Yeah, ok, but releasing an album isn't as easy as it seems and somehow, i think the fans don't give a shit about all the work involved and the whys, whens, hows of releasing it.

I think it's pretty selfish and no one, not even us, can prove the musicians even know " when".

Have you never asked yourselves that the musicians could answer you " soon" just so you stop pissing them off ?

Maybe they don't know more than you do, maybe axl doesn't know more than you do, maybe sanctuary know more than anybody else put together and maybe no one knows.

Why do you keep harassing people like that ?

If it were me, i'd say " i am not going to fucking give it to you because you piss me off too much".

But it ain't me. Lucky for yous, because you"d then be waiting forever. :hihi:

Goes to prove that you are polite enough to KNOW he wasn't there to promote GNR, so you didn't bother him.

Why don't all people think like this ? :'(

really?

but tellin if he have something 2 share about it is not promo? ???

i know they're proud of their work, but when joinin a big band like gunsnroses and workin with axl rose-
-they already know they are associated 2 this, maybe far more than their solocareer...

yes it's a bonus and glad they tell, but they are in a band thats ready 2 rock so they will likely understand and respect the varinational intrest

thats like i c it,? :)
so fans who ask and don't care 4 solo-tommy, but only gnr-tommy are allowed 2 ask-?imo   :peace:
we agree on that they are more gunners than soloartists...? what you think?

I always think that an artist is a solo artist contributing to a common project, him being in a common project with GNR or anybody else.

I think there should be an interest for the overall artist and not just a tiny part of him/her.

As for having something to share ? well, maybe he did have something to share, but maybe the people would pleased if fans asked them about the band they play in that night and not an album that's more of a legend than a reality ?

How do the other bandmembers feel about it do you think ?  the ones who are " unknown" ?

agree, lol  :)

i got sooo into bucketheads work after seein him in gnr, and would have talked lots about how much i loved it, the style, the perfomance, the music and all the stuff that goes with it if i met him...   :D

if i asked him a gnr question (if he was in the band) i think it should be ok 4 him, but would have respected if he hated that? :peace:

Tommy doesnt seem to mind. I asked him basically the same thing when I saw him and he said "no way dude, its all good, I dont mind"....

Personally if I'm a solo show....it wouldn't even occur to me to ask about GNR, but some people do that...big deal...I think Tommy's old enough to handle it...am I going to worry about some 30-something year old who's touring solo getting pissed at me because I'm asking about the "other" band...hell no! I paid my money to see his show so he just has to deal...like I said, me personaly, I really don't care when the new GNR comes out as long as I get to see the band members (sans Axl) that's fine with me, but for those who are jonesing for GNR...Mr. S., can handle it I'm sure, and if he can't I'm sure he can handle telling mr. or ms. gnr fan to fuck off ::)

The question is that:
fans ask questions and they answer as MUCH as they can. They use those ambiguous words where they can't swear  us for sure. They're sincere to fans.
Then see, how some fans repay kindness with evil bite the hand that feeds one.  >:(
My question is that:
are those who keep saying They're liers or shits short on brains or in common sense?

yeah and i think thats why the members have given time when it did not happen

not lied or just said bogus,
i think they have all the time said whats true, and likely happen- but everything is most likely not run by gunsnroses alone...
i think  ::)

lol, i think 2? :peace:

I know you were in the UK for those Britsh VR shows a few weeks ago...did you think about trying to get an interview with those guys? 

No, I didn't.





/jarmo

When asked about Chinese Democracy, all the GN'R members would have to say is "no comment" or "I'm not at liberty to discuss the status of the Guns N' Roses album". 

And then move on with "Next question, please."

They could say this nicely and in a serious manner. I'm sure it get's old hearing questions about another album on their own tour supporting their project. But then again it's expected and comes with the territory. In my opinion, it was a mistake to ever throw all of these teases some of the members have done already. It only causes misguided hopes.

if u're a rock star you gotta resist every kind of shit that you might find into your life, you can't be a famous guy while you just wish to hear the silence around ur ears, so that's the price gnr has to pay, so if i might see Axl face to face I'd make the same question too  :smoking:

Well Jessica,

Although I understand what you're saying and I have even thought that myself sometimes...I don't care if it pisses them off...

We've all got to work...we've all put our time in on something or some sort of project.

Just because it is a lot of work to put together an album doesn't mean we should all be left in the dark regarding the album's progression...ESPECIALLY when we were promised a new album before the end of the 20th century.

There may be ways to defend your point of view...but and album being a lot of work sure as hell ain't one of 'em.

no the gnr members are suffering, nah are flying under estranged patience - you should know that  :hihi:

When it comes right down to it, the rest of the band-members are in the same position as the fans are. 

Yes they know and have worked with Axl, and helped make Chinese Democracy, but it is ultimately out of their hands as to when it will be released.

They're obviously anxious and waiting just like us...

i think that would be the most controversial reply they could make!  ;D

maybe if they got sick of it they could pressure mr rose into breaking his silence or something...

Its ok to ask them i think...

 :rofl:...don't ya think they also can give their own opinions to help the band ?...if Axl wished those guys to be there to play with him it's just cuz he need'em all to make a band called GNR, if not! so Axl would be around on tour without them honestly, Axl would sell his shows as tommy lee does it these days! ::) , new gnr members have much to do with the band these days...the new album is on their hands too   :smoking:

Yes, but you must remember that a lot of HTGTH members and GNR fans in general , woudn't give a fuck about Tommy Stinson, or Richard Fortus, or any other newGNR members. Guns N' Roses gave them the chance to show that they are indeed great musicians ( a chance which Bucket grabbed with both hands ;D) , so none of them should complain.

 ::) how can u say that? what about B.H? that guy did his best to play in GNR...gnr gave?em a chance but all they did it fine too... anyway!, do you think it's so easy to find a guitar player like B.H? hello!!!! , you can roll around the world n' never find a' amazing musician like him!!! so the new gnr members have much to do with gnr these times, no matter if you're agree with it or not!  :smoking:

Jessica, are you that naive ?

These musicians are professsionals who get paid to be in the public limelight and as such should take the time to answer questions from both the press and adoring fans.

Also, what is the big fucking secret, that this band unlike any other, has to dodge questions about an album thats been talked about for 7 or 8 years ?   

If axl had any concern for his fans and bandmates he'd make it easy on everyone and just keep the world informed through a website.  Even if the info was, still not ready, not even close, within a year or something that would keep the fans from going crazy.   

It's kinda sick that some of you think you're job in life is to defend axl rose a multi millionaire who's biggest decision in life is should he get out of bed and finish a 10 year project or just roll over and get some more sleep.

Well... no matter what... I think it has to be a pretty "eye-opening" experience for most of these guys to realize just how popular Axl and Guns N' Roses still are. I think most of these guys (Finck, Stinson. Brain, Pittman, Fortus) have come from totally different genres and may not have fully appreciated how great and how BIG GN'R was back in the day. Even Stinson admitted to never owning a Guns' album until a few days before his try-out in '98. I think most of them probably initially joined up with GN'R a bit out of curiousity and because the $$ was damn good- now I think their excitement only grows as they realize how often fans are asking them GN'R questions on the road. So to answer the original question, no, I don't think they mind being asked about GN'R all that much... if anything it only confirms that they made a good decision to join the band and stay with Axl so long. : ok:

If you're waiting...don't. Live your life. That's your responsibility not mine. If it were not to happen you won't have missed a thing. If in fact it does you might get something that works for you, in the end you could win on this either way. But if you're really into waiting try holding your breath for Jesus cause I hear the payoff may be that much greater.
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=82

True... but people here refuse to accept it.
For instance, I'm searching for news with my own responsibility, I never said Axl release it!@ or something.
You should do the same, you get free from your anxiety.

true gnr fans have been sad deep own inside around the planet after all this time...all those ex-gnr members left us all alone for years but Axl was the only member to face this shit up to make us smile once again since "Las Vegas Show 2000" so I guess ex-gnr members suck more than ever n' they should not be called like "GNR" anymore cuz today gnr has new members in there n' they've been playing with Axl to give us a light in this darker story so the new band is great more than Slash,Duff or whoever out there! do ya dig what I say?  :smoking:

1) Not naive, just a question of principle as i was always surrounded by musicians since childhood, my mother wrote music too and i have heard them complain for years, so i can " imagine" how annoying it must be to hear the same things over and over again.

2) No big secret, but again, since fans know what the replies are going to be, why ask the question ?

3) Axl is the band leader, not God. As we don't know who has the rights for what, maybe it's "assuming" axl  has the right to say something through a website, which may not be the case ?

4) I don't defend the man, i play the devil's advocate, saying to you or anybody else that these things thought about axl rose and his power over this album may be complete assumptions and that you could, as well as i, be in the wrong.

I don't consider any of the current band members a part of Gn'R (except Axl) and I never will no matter how good CD is.
Gn'R was Axl,Izzy,Slash and Duff and now Gn'R is Axl, those other people will only ever be replacments in my eyes. If you asked me how many members were in Gn'r at the moment I would say one, Axl Rose. I'm not saying I hate the new members but no matter how good they are they'll never replace the original Gn'R. I felt this way about Matt and Gilby aswell.
If I was in Axl's shoes I sure as hell wouldn't want people continuosly asking me about CD but if no one asks Axl he will lose track of time and no one will ever get to hear CD, except Axl? :-\

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

They're not stupid enough not to realize how long the fans have been waiting, They know. And do they get annoyed by the "when is Chinese Democracy coming out?" question hmm well the answer to that is

Who gives a fuck if that annoys them or not  :peace:

you do need to see a Dr soon!!!!? :hihi:

Izzy,Slash and Duff they're history already!..now the new gnr has greatest musicians n' Izzy,Slash and Duff have to suck on THAT somehow!? :smoking: :yes: ;D

... what do u think slash felt deep own inside when he knew that B.H was a gnr member?? :rofl: , I'm so sure that it was eating slash from inside cuz he knows B.H is much more better than him... can u open up ur eyes right now? hell!, I hope so!? :-\ ::)

How old are you 7, 10, 12?  This not WWF it's real people who create music.  IN my books there are no sides.  The internet has created that *vs* thing and it's nonsense.   

Aslong as they create good music i really couldn't care less what goes on or who said what anymore - life is too short.

Back on topic:   I knew Robin before he joined GNR of course.  But the others much less so.  The only reason i would think of going to see them if they toured near by is for the GNR interest.  So they are feeding off the GNR fame somewhat.  So it's not too much for them to answer peoples questions regarding the band they are in. Normally in bands that isn't a big deal but a blessing.

 :hihi:  hey open ur eyes up n' agree this : Izzy,Slash, Duff n' Steven have gone forever n' GNR has better musicians these times....can you tell me that B.H is better than slash? of course he's ! so it's time to carry on, if you wanna hold on Slash, Duff so go to see their fucking videos where they act with Scott

...got it?  ::)

Hey i got it along time ago believe me. I'm not some kid who treats these people like fantasy figures.? I realise they real people who create great music and at the end of the day that is what i am interested in.?

Telling people to get over it is like telling people to get over Zepplin, Queen, Hendrix.? Even when they don't exist anymore their music does and will for aslong as people listen to music.? The same with the GNR that created GNR. In the music fans eyes they made incredible records and were the biggest band on the planet.? And for that reason normal people will always think of the original reasons they enjoyed a certain band. SO some people will always love the original band because that band changed peoples worlds and made this incredible music.

Of course things move on but people are still buying Sgt Pepper some 40 years on just as they will? still be buying Appetite and Illusions, because they are such great pieces of music. Thats it.

Trying to argue who is a better guitarist is all down to personal opinion and people will always differ.? At the end of the day it will come down to the music they create. And so far Slash wins hands down, as his guitar work? has inspired generations to pick up the guitar and play the riffs and solos he has created.? ?Slash has earnt the respect of all his peers and fans alike.  And that is the difference Between Slash and Buckethead - who is of course a superb guitarist. But lets hear the tunes, untill then you can't argue.

And you use the term holding on?? As far as me enjoying the music that Slash and Duff create?? I really dont see music in that way i am interested in these guys because i think they are great musicians.? I have followed them for along time and that is non of your business what people choose to believe or are interested in.? Those guys - doesn't matter how much you want to knock them - it's a waste of your energy noone else'. They are still doing what they enjoy and have something great going on at the moment which normal people outside of GNR fanbase are excited by.? ?They are making great music and totally rock when they play live i have been there and seen it for myself, have you?

You might be right if you had said i was holding on to Axl because yeh i think we all are - let's be honest.? But even then i am just interested in the music, i want to hear what he's been doing for 10 years.? Not interested in who's better than who. Thats childsplay and nothing to do with what they actually do - create music.?

 :hihi: hell! you should be blind n' deaf to tell this shit!...who are ya to say "let's hear the tunes" Slash is a cool musician but  ::) hello???!!!,  might slash make those kind of solos like B.H?...they're so different in the end but B.H can play a lot of tunes more than Slash in show...don't you hear yet GNR live in Boston 2002? buddy, slash should be ashamed when he hears B.H playing in this show!  ::) why do u think Axl did prefer B.H when he wanted to bring gnr back? , just think about it !!!!  8)

I actually saw two shows with my own eyes in 2002 in the UK and have most of the 2002 shows. I have not knocked BH's playing at all, he is a shit hot guitarist no doubt about it. See i don't have to rubbish a person to make my opinion.?

If you read what i had said propperly, what i am saying is,? he was playing Slash's work - bar for a couple of new songs, which don't have that much guitar work to compare with the likes of Jungle, SCOM or Estranged.?

I have not heard BH's solo work, so you may know more than i do about his ability to write. But in the context of GNR...well he has already come and gone and to be honest i doubt many people will know or care outside of? the fanbase.? ?Unless he comes back... well your holding on to something that doesn't exist anymore - as much as anyone else is.

Indeed.  Art is long, life is too short to fart about! :yes:

In my books the major rock critics and the music media are complicity with the internet, or rather the principals in that nuisance.

 :o I can't believe what  u say! ...  B .H is a hero n' no matter that he's gone forever  cuz he'll be famous more than ever cuz there are a lot of shows in audio  recording/video recording which'll  make us remember that  B. H played for gnr n' that' ll be a great legend to remember always!....i  honestly say  B.H  gave to the band a better style n'  it's better more than Izzy or Slash could give before, anyway B.H will be exist into our memories for life  :smoking:

You say that BH will stay in our memories and Izzy and Slash won't, what's your reasoning behind that statement ??? You said on another thread that you like the song "Used To Love Her", do you realize that Izzy wrote this song? ???

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

can't ya understand that they're not that special like B.H? no matter what!  :smoking: