Here Today... Gone To Hell!

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Great post!  I'm laughing my ass off right now.  I swear, someone's gonna have to lock me up in an asylum!  Axl is driving me crazy!!!  People that don't even listen to music are laughing at me with these insane "almost done" updates!!

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ok so the album is NOT finished...right?
excuse me but 5% in the GN'R world seems enormous to me....
another thing: who is "they"? brain and also tommy use the word "they" when they talk about GN'R, "us" would be more normal don't you think?

That's better than "hopefully it'll be out sometime this year"...

Sounds great. We've heard from alot of the bandmembers on this, just not the one i really really really want to hear it from. Still...sounds great.

5% could be mixing and mastering. ?;D

There's no date on when this interview was done. It might be a few weeks/months old. Tommy said it's done a week ago.



Thanks Gypsy.



/jarmo

I guess that blows the old mastering theory ...  ::)

the magazine will be on sale on march 2005, so I suppose the interview is very recent, probably a few days/weeks ago.

Days? No way. It's not a newspaper.




/jarmo

Thanks for the scans Gypsy.
I guess Jarmo is right. This interview could be made on january or something (like the other one Gypsy posted),  :yes:

Since today is only February 7th, I think we can safely assume that anything in the MARCH 2005 issue was done in advance.? ;)

i see nothing in the first post  ???

I noticed he says 'they' when he says 'they're pretty much 95% done with it' ... ?
and notice he says 'we' when he says "what we've done with it is awesome'....

seems he uses 'they' cuz he is not involved in the wrapping up process of the CD...
coud be referencing they as in Axl (as the producer) and whoever else is actually in the studio for the mixing/mastering

the band is not 'they'... the band is 'we'... as in when the 'we' recorded the music for the album ? : ok:

anyway... ?i would not take 95% literally... its another way of saying 'almost' IMO.


Kick ass! ? Us too Brain... us too! ?

Thanks for posting this ?;)

note: ?I remember hearing this thing about 'public storage' before... could be this interview is even older than we're estimating.

that happens to me sometimes... right click in the area of the post
then select 'properties'... copy the url from the little window that pops up and past it in your browsers address bar
then you should be able to see it (its a scan of the article so its an image file) EDIT: oh sorry, that didn't work the link is 'forbidden'

Hmmm... 95%.....

Let's hypothetically say they started work on CD in early 1998. That was 7 years ago.  7 * 0.05 = 0.35 which is approximately 1/3. 1/3 of a year is 4 months. So CD is coming out in May 2005.

This is so fucking pathetic. 95% done??!?!?! If it took 14 years to do 95, do you realize how much there is left to wait?

Now before, you start bagging on me, saying "if you don't like it, leave". I've been waiting, and I will still wait. But 14 years to complete an album? That is the definition of pathetic. I've always defended GnR and always dissagreed with the haters. But its getting to a point where its getting harder and harder to do so. 

I'm not getting angry because I feel Axl owes us something and not giving it to us. There is plenty of other good music that can keep me waiting. I'm getting frustrated because I can find less and less reasons to defend GnR. I can't possibly believe in one's musical genius when inside my mind, I can't hide the fact that it takes more than a decade to put out an album.

hoe has it been 14 years since they started working on the album? They only started working on it in like 98/99, so by my counting that only 6/7 years.

"There is plenty of other good music that can keep me waiting."

Ummm....what other music are you talkin about dude? For me, the new NIN album would hold me off but, I don't see anything else cool out there. The new Dr. Dre album maybe too.


"Let's hypothetically say they started work on CD in early 1998. That was 7 years ago.? 7 * 0.05 = 0.35 which is approximately 1/3. 1/3 of a year is 4 months. So CD is coming out in May 2005."

Sounds good to me. Although I would rather it came in April. May is already going to be kick ass enough as it is.

I'm not exactly sure when they started but there is some rumoured songs there that date back to the early ninetees. 

Either way, more than anything, it's sad to see someone who was so the pennicle of bad-ass to do this.

one of these days the moment we have all been waiting for will arrive and we all, gnr fans and its members, will all be very happy people....

In the meantime, I'd like to start a rumor, if you don't mind...

Did you know that Axl puts spanish flavored bulgar wheat in his burrito?    :hihi:

yikes. we are seriously regressing with these newslets. Tommy and Brain's statements seem to back each other up, namely that some parts of the album are not done. This is very discouraging. I don't think I keep myself away from the dark side for another year. :nervous:

that sux they didint say nuthin about wut axl eatz@!

5% = finishing touchiz : ok:

well EVA me being the pessimist i took the "they" comment differently than what u did


i thought "is he still in the band"? that was my first reaction

he said "they" are 95 percent done with it

he didnt say they are finishing the 5 percent

so maybe his grammar isnt very good but it sounded like he wasnt still in the band.

I think this might be the year.  The past rumors have all been based on speculation and uncited sources, and all of them were started by people who aren't in the band.  Tommy, Brain and Dizzy have all stated recently that the album is basically done and that there are only a few finishing touches left.  That's straight from the band members.  None of the previous rumors came from the people making the music.  Hopefully the album will be out in the next 6 months  :beer:

Same problem

Well, at any rate the title of the tread pretty much sums up the relevant part of the article.

10% ='s about 1 year so 5% ='s about 6 months. It's been over 10 years, so let's just say that 5% =' about 5 months, or 4 months for good measure as the interview is probably some weeks old   ;D


...also, he probably said 5% as a figure of speech, it could really be 3% to go  ;D - cover art, that sort of thing  : ok:

at least he says that he has heard it...

at least we know that there is something to listen to

Thank's for the scan!!!.

I also guess this interview was done some time ago, I really think tommy has more knowledge on the real status of C.D.

April-july: this is the time when C.D. will be released. :beer:

5% = Artwork, decide the songs.. and stuff like that  : ok:

I thought this also...

Exactly.  :-\

Lol - i'd be annoyed, but none of the 'members' have any idea, infact i am pretty sure they have less idea than we have, we've probably heard more of the music too :hihi:

I just wish they would shut up - Axl's no news is better than Dizzy or Tommy or Brian's speaking out of their arse - why don't they just say they don't know or atleast remain consistent, i.e either its finished or its not.

im already looking to Nov 2005

no way it will be out b4 then.

u have to deliver the finished cd to the label 3 months before release

its at 95 percent so the earliest i could imagine it getting all the way through is march early april

3 months would be a july release which is possible

but 5 percent in axl's time could be forever

i do think it will be this year

but like ive said in countless other threads

i also thought the same in 2002,2003 and 2004

so who knows?

The more things change...

With  new Queens of the stone age, Filter, Jerry Cantrell and Nine inch nails albums, 2005 will be a great year for rock... It would be one of the best of all times if...well, you know...

I agree, this was the first thing that came to my mind. This would make sense logically, and would match what Tommy said. And we have to trust what Tommy says, to say he knows nothing is ridiculous. Maybe he has said soon in the past and it has taken longer than he expected. All I know is that a year or two back no band member said anything about it being done, or that it was coming soon.

Oh and as for new music, check the underground. These days you have to find the music yourself, due to the way the major record labels are running things at the moment..

this is for tied up:

bon jovi also have a new album coming out this spring/summer

sure the hell is a great year for rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


95 percent though has me stumped

i wonder exactly whats left to do?

All these 5% thoughts.  ;D

Well mine is, the 5% = Lawsuits. :-\

cheers gypsy!

maybe he says them because his part are done, maybe he feels like he's a working musician or a hired gun and that it's not really his thing this GN'R project, maybe he lnows he'll be on the album, but won't tour with GN'R again so in that way he's done with gn'r, could be that since it's not his decisions to make, he won't call it his band... lets say the album flopps, at least he can say, well it wasn't really my thing, maybe he's afraid of that...

5% could be a beer, or a whine cooler  :beer:

FOR THOSE OF YOUZE WHO CAN'T SEE THE SCANS ... IT'S PROBABLY A FIREWALL OR PORT 80 OR OTHER SECURITY SETTINGS ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED ON YOUR COMPUTER.

HERE'S THE GNR PARTS OF WHAT BRAIN HAD TO SAY.

DRUM!? We have to ask.? Guns N? Roses.? Can we talk about this?
Brain:? I talked with Tom about this (interview) too, and he said, ?As long as you don?t get into personal stuff, as long as it?s about music, I?m totally fine with that.?? And that?s what Axl says.? I can?t say what Axl eats, but I can talk about my playing.

DRUM!:? Our readers need to know what Axl puts in his burrito.
Brain:? (laughs) I want to say something, but I can?t.

DRUM!:? Okay, Chinese Democracy ?
Brain:? ? they?re pretty much 95 percent done with it.

DRUM!:? (laughs) We can quote you on this?
Brain:? (laughs) If you want.? But really, I think the album sounds great.? What we?ve done is awesome.? I heard it recently and was like ? damn.? I want it to come out.

I don't think Brain feels like he's a hired gun with respect to GN'R.  In fact, if you look back at his interview recently in Rhythm Magazine, he talks about his role in GN'R being in contrast to being a session player, or "hired gun."  He pointed to the fact that he had a hand in writing the material on the new GN'R record.

I just think that his parts have been recorded, and he isn't directly involved with the mixing, mastering or artwork, so he uses the term "they."

Ali

5% of the vocals have to be finished? 5% of the art has to be finished? Or 5% of the 5% that the 5% of us believe 5% is bullshit to the 5% = 5% OF AXL'S BALLS ARE IN YOUR MOUTH and Tommy says I can't say? Come on, why not some real fucken news. Someone e-mail the white house in Malibu. 

As soon as this album comes out we'll all know how long a ( hairs breath ) is. I'd say about 9-10 months maybe 1 year. Should of asked Tommy 

Me too agree with Lawzy Ali n Eva's reasonable view for the most part.
And Yes, music magazines often carry 3 months old interview.

Sanctuary's deal proclaims that dozens of new songs with vocals on have been recorded.
And here He says he heard the album recently.
the 5% is not of the music/album. It's only me, but I sense there are two subjects, "Chinese Democracy" and the damn album.

So, Alternatively, I take the 100 percent as the whole process of "Chinese Democracy" alleged to have started in 2002. And the outstanding 5% has of course something to do with what Axl eats.  :P

Objection!!! Chinese Democracy started in 2002. It's been a little over 2yrs. :hihi:

He "wants it to come out"?

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Speculating as to why he used the word "they" could be because he is contracted to GNR he is not a full member, maybe he was payed to record CD and thats it. Maybe he will be offered to tour (hopefully) but he knows he isnt for the long run. (Besides Axl and maybe Dizzy can anyone feel for the long run with gnr anymore??)

Well, I'm 95 % pissed off.

Time will only tell right I feel like we are getting really close now closer than we have ever been before

Haven't you read the other article where Brain says he's not a hired gun in Chinese Democracy?
Anyway keep being pissed off if you are sorry ass negative morons.

Thanks Gypsy. I always enjoy reading Brain?s interview. He is my fav member.

5% = waiting for the ebay auction to end so they can get that adapter for pittmans keyboard!  :peace:

i think we can only hear the real thing from Axl. 2 b totally honest, i cant say ne thing till i c the CD on the shelves

the 5%, to me, is the marketing thing

Sadly they were oubid, looks like more inactivity for Chris, poor lad.

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The stuff with Brain saying 'oh i can't say about that' ::) It's not as if we're asking for Axl's pin number.

Its an album and they'd let u think they were working for the CIA. ''I can't reveal that information, u need a level 9 clearence''

Me thinks Axl has been sitting in his room watching too much TV for too long.

Do u think when the album is released it will have 'For your eyes only on' and we will need to sign forms in which we promise not to discuss it with other people?

Me too ... wait, I'm more than 95% pissed off!


Yeah, that was me, I sniped them there at the end.  I needed it!   :hihi:

Here's hoping it's the latter.  In another news report it said that "Rose recently recorded dozens of new tracks" - this should include vocals. They should just put a photo of the band on the cover - I'd be happy with that.

:yes: To me, the 5% also involves releasing, touring and such.
Chinese Democracy will be completed when they finish releasing everything.

It doesn't matter what it means to you, it matters what it means to Brain, and it was implied that he was referring to musical content.

Wasn't Brain just joking about what Axl puts on his burrito when he said that? ?:confused:
I'm not a big fan of burritos, so I'm really not interested in what Axl puts on it. ?:puke:


Gypsy admission: ?Shameless excuse to use the puking smilie. ?:P

I agree that 95% is a figure of speech meaning it's almost done.
It seems pretty clear that the band members have finshed recording their parts so when Brain refers to 'them' I would say he's referring to Axl putting finishing touches on and/or the mixers, engineers, producers etc...

But given the amount of time spent recording and the rumoured amounts of tracks parts etc.., I'm of the belief that mixing will take a long time, especially when considering the fact that Axl is a perfectionist.

why can't this fucking album ever just be done ,what's the hold up, there's more excuses and shit then anything..

WHen did moby start with cd in 97?? It's fucking 2005 when is it going to be done and when the fuck is it coming out.. ::)

And it also doesn't matter what it means to YOU, it matters what it means to Brain.   >:(
I?m saying Brain is both referring to musical content and alluding to Chinese Democracy as the whole balls of wax, as He?s changing his manner of speaking from "we" to "they".
So what?s the point of your post other than You think otherwise?
 

BTW Yo! mikegiuliana, long time no see. :D

Thanks for restating my point exactly.


Umm ... nothing ...  :-\

95% of the interviews and comments about CD are bullshit. Fuck what ya heard.

Well, at least brain said he's heard the album. Since a few people have heard the album... I'm hoping it leaks real quick. Because lets face it, Axl probably won't be releasing it anytime soon. The year he finally does release it I'll be first in line to purchase the damn thing.

PS, fuck Paul Mcartny for teasing us with the foe GnR shirt. That had to be on purpose.... I think he lurks on this board!

All you read and Wear or see and Hear on TV, Is a product Begging for your Fatass dirty Dollar So...Shut up and Buy my new record Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.

I don't think Brain has been the first one to refer to this project and C.D. as "they." I remember getting bent out of shape before when I read other interviews or articles and it was obviously either Tommy or Dizzy who said it like that. I don't even go so far as to take any of their words with even a grain of salt because it does no good. Until the label or Axl Rose himself speak up, I'll start taking the progression seriously, because Axl has yet to literally give us a bogus response or date... and for that I'm grateful.

Oh really....Axl told an Argentina radio station in Jan 01 that the cd would be out in June, maybe July of 01. Axl sent a fax to mtv after Slash left saying the album would be 12 tracks and would be out by summer of 97. Axl said in Dec 02 it would be out sometime in 2003. Axl said on March 30th 2004 that he would announce a release date in the next few months. Is a few months a year??  ::) I don't believe Axl either.  :rant: :rant:

Stingy, stingy. I guess I've just gotten way too used to it that it doesn't annoy me anymore.

Id say the 5% is the final mixing,artwork and release strategies

YAWN!!!!!
When it's out it's out.

Nice to se you, guess nothing ever changes ,I figured the landing pad was about a hair's breadth away ages ago.. :hihi: Now it's 5 percent away, hopefully not going into the wind..

On a positive note the other 5% could be finished by now. Just waiting for Tommy's touring to finish.

man i forgot about that one. and i guess we wil never know what really happened ....

The same thing as earlier. C'mon man, release the album!

If port 80 was blocked you wouldnt even get to the internet....

It's not necessarily completely blocked but can be filtered by your firewall. That's what happened to me.

well tommy and brain have claimed to have heard the albujm, so the 5 percent must be things related to the album but not the music itself..

The day I read cd is ready I might die of shock..

It's funny the reaction certain people have to these types of bandmember interviews

Just look at this article. You can argue about what he meant saying 'we' and 'they'
There are people doind algebra trying to figure out exactly how many days 95% comes out to be.
Then you have the people who either blindly believe all reports or the people who sit back and say I won't believe anything untill the CD is in my hands.

I can't wait to see how the latter group of people reacts when an 'official announcement' is made. Will they bash that tid bit of info also?

I always wonder what my reaction will be when i pull up HTGTH from my favorites like I have nearly everyday for the better part of a decade, and see 'Interscope has officially announced the release date for the long awaited Guns N' Roses Album'
After all that is the reason I check this site all the time, but I just don't ever expect that to be the newest news headline on the front page.

Sorry about the rambling slightly off topic.........

I think The when brain says 'they' he means the people who are doing the mixing.... he obviously doesn't have a hand in the finishing touches, so how do you say 'we' for something you aren't doing.

I could be totally wrong, but I think if you asked Tico Torres how the new Bon Jovi album is comming after he has finished the recording, he might say something like 'they' are almost done with it. Not because he isn't a member of the band (is he still?? havent followed that band since Slippery When Wet) but because he isn't involved in mixing and mastering.

Good Post Coma!!  : ok:

 :rofl:

great post COma

Super duper post Coma!

One thing's for sure, once CD is out, we can start all over again and begin the next long wait   :hihi:


I'm guessing CD hasn't made it to the press just yet, as it's bound to be leaked onto the net the moment it does   ;)

Bingo! That?s why I trust other members. Still Axl is so untrustworthy that other members can?t state confidently anything they hear from him.

Also There are those who say the members don?t know a shit yet believe the members words that sound like bad news. I guess those people don?t want to see GN?R and the new album. Why? I don't know. Maybe they are on the competitor?s side.

Perhaps it's Axl fault or perhaps the delay is due to the lawsuits. GN'R was very big and I think the split made a lot of money problems and money rules the world  : ok:
Money killed Elvis and.. ok i shut up  :peace: