Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This is from Tommy's interview for Creative Loafing Magazine Atlanta.

So what's the status of the Guns project right now?

They're finishing up the mixing right now. Sorting out what songs are going on it and artwork and shit. And hopefully sooner than later, it'll come out. I understand there's probably some European dates booked in the summer. Hopefully, that'll happen and we'll get over there and do it. Once it gets going, it's a lot of fun. There's a lot of fuckin' work involved with getting it going, but once it is going, it's a lot of fun.

Read the whole interview here:
http://www.atlanta.creativeloafing.com/vibes_feature3.html

Or an article on it here:
http://www.sp1at.com/1000000088.html

Thanks but... merge topic  ;D

Hope Tommy isn't wrong !

awsome!!!!!  :D

ok it's a good point but it's not the first time we hear bandmembers saying "it's coming". There have been lots of illusions over these last years. w will see what happens.

Merge topic with what? It hasn't been posted before?  ::)

Thanks for posting that.

Now he's mentioning touring plans in addition to the album's release.




/jarmo

I can see a nice european summer festival tour to back the album known as CD.....Europe will be the first to see and hear the new album live....luckyyy

Things are lookin good....

Wow that's ... no news at all.  ::)

Perhaps Tommy's interviews topic ?

Thanks. so he "THINKS...."  Hehe, neat title.  : ok:
Other parts are also Interesting, like the following.

What's your take on the state of pop music right now?
"I'm just starting to hear bands I like again. There was a while there in the '90s, that I couldn't deal. It was horseshit. Now people are gettin' kinda creative and stepping out of the whole major record company grasp and doing more interesting things and mixin' it up a bit. I didn't hear much of that in the '90s at all."

Still in the mixing stage, eh? Thought the music was done...

I'd hate to see any more shows without an album. (Unless the show was all-new material).

This is killing me. How about a release first. I rather have album first, Axl better deliver before my ass hits anymore of his concerts. Sorry Tommy, that's what the fans deserve. AXL KNOWS IT

you deserve an album? since when do we DESERVE anything? You really need to get your head out the clouds dude, we are not owed anything. We dont deserve anything.  : ok:

but the music IS done
the "mixing" is when you record ALL the music, and just sit, have a couple of beers and decide how to put "this parto to that part... that scream with effect... that drum a little bit low..."

THEN, with the mix done, you MASTER the whole thing and then is 100% done to release...

well, Tommy saying that they are MIXING, just made me thing that melodies and vocals are done.

Yea well, I'm not hiding nothing like you know who. Don't wait your time talking back stick to topic. :peace:

Actually,

Axl has promised the fans a new album for ten years

He does owe us something

We don't deserve anything? After ten years of faithful support i'd say we do - u forget, we are Axl's boss - not the record label, we're the one's that buy the stuff, we keep him off the streets, we paid for his mansion and his cars.

Without the fans an artist is nothing, the good bands realise that. I don't know if Axl does, but without us he'd still be doing drugs in LA's slums

Yes, the music is done... then it get mixed.

It wouldn't make any sense to mix a track as long as it's not fully recorded, that's for sure. But mixing can take a loooong time, especially with the recording process that has been described before.

Izzy, Thank you, Yes Ta That 

you?re right, but conecting things, Tommy said that the music is done for a while....  ;)

No, you have allready gotten what you have paid for. You bought all the albums and you got something for your money. I could understand if say, you allready gave Axl money for CD, but you haven't. So therefore he don't owe us anything. If he decided tomorrow to retire, then the only people he owes is GEFFEN.

Little do you know.

"They're finishing up the mixing right now."

"Finishing" :smoking:

Finishing the mixing. So does that meen mastering takes place afterwards? And if so...roughly how long does that take? Bare in mind this is in Axl-time...therefore add 6 months! :hihi:

Cool News...I belive as long as nothing happens (touch wood) that we will see it in mid-april

i hope they wouldnt tour europe without CD being releaaed first or at least a single with a releaae date.

How can you guys possibly be legitimately talking tour?  Do you folks ever take a step out and objectively consider what you're saying?  Last year, Tommy said they'd be touring right after the new year.  Now it's summer..Let's have 35 pages of potential venues...GO!

He never said something about booking dates before.

"I understand there's probably some European dates booked in the summer."

Why the hell they would plan to book an European summer tour if they couldn't be ready by that time?

how cum in all the interviews tommy does he has never been askt about Axl/guns n roses apparently performin at the superbowl?! i think he would know so things could be cleared up

Honestly, who really does know what Tommy is referring to when he says, "mixing". This could just as well mean mixing in surround for all we know. The initial stereo mix could very well be done, but perhaps Axl is into some 5.1 shit. Just a thought...

AA

It's easy to criticize, but unless you are in Tommy's position where you are being asked 20 times a day for updates on Guns n'roses, then it's hard to comment.

As Jarmo will tell you, Tommy is a very cool individual and I think he does well to cope with all the gnr questions that are thrown at him considering that it's an ever changing situation, as you should appreciate by now being hardcore gnr fans  ;) :yes: : ok:  So, he can't always be up to speed on what is happening at any particular point in time and you do know that!

The new Guns n'roses album will feature the most modern sound available at this point in time, and even I do not know what that is. I'm still getting over, emotionally speaking, of the disappearance of 78rpm vinyl records.  :hihi:

I think they're working on getting the album to sound right for all those people who still listen to music on 8-track.  :hihi:




/jarmo

So the music's been done for a long time today, but two weeks ago they were still mixing it and deciding what to put on the album? Is two weeks 'a long time'? :hihi:

Maybe because no one's heard of that rumour outside GN'R boards....

I wouldn't worry.

If and when either happens, the album (or at least an offical announcement) will precede any further live shows.

So the music's been done for a long time today, but two weeks ago they were still mixing it and deciding what to put on the album? Is two weeks 'a long time'? :hihi:

With Axl's conception of time, his life will last over 2,000 years.

he implies that they have some european dates booked for the summer.

personally i think this is one of the most definitive comments we've heard from any of the band members.

it gives me a good feeling about things.  : ok:

it would be DAMN GREAT to see that Tourlist soon....

i'm all in 4 summergigs, festivals and stuff :peace:

It would be nice to see them doing festivals in the summer!

Graspop would be cool, on saturday the 25th of June = to see GNR on my 30th birthday!

Not to get my hopes or anything... :beer:

well i take this as good news, if there finishing the mixing then they can master soon... and the potential dates... fuck i hope they happen, anything to have GNR out there again...

They will not without Chinese Democracy, they said first comes the album then the tour.


Indeed, not all of the journalists are predictors like us.  ;D


Anyway, as other people here said, Tommy speaking about possible summer dates is something not to get past.

The album is not done until it is mixed, mastered, handed over to the record company, THE RECORD COMPANY HAS TO APPROVE OF THE RECORD, and a release date is set. Considering they haven't even decided on the tracklist, we have absolutely nothing new here. Sorry to be realistic.  :no:

I get a kick out of you people sometimes. ;D

You guys continue to get dupped into a new release date rumor every 3 months.  And even worse, you continue to believe a guy who has been right exactly zero times in the past.  How can you put any faith into anything Stinson says at this point?  I'm sure he means well, but he know next to nothing about the status of this project, and he has proved that over and over and over again.

I have no faith that CD will be out in 2005 and no reason to beleive a tour will take place in the summer.  I remember hearing rumors of tour dates in Decemer in Europe and see where that led.  I have heard rumors on this board (and yes direct quotes from Stinson and Reed) that the album was done and being mixed and a hair breaths away and etc in the past.  Yet despite all those previous statements, no CD.  What makes you guys think this one is any different?  Why do you continue to beleive in these people's statements when they have been wrong every other time in the past?  I understand that at some point one of these statements has to be right (law of percenatages I guess), but why do you all believe every one of these rumors? 

CD may come out before the summer, but it won't be validation of the accuracy of Stinson's statements as much as just the nature or percentages and the law of averages.

yeah, summertour 4 sure? :peace:

the music is done... it's been done 4 a while, only artwork left-
- and dozens of songs has been signed over 2 sanctuary? ;)
guess tommy and dizzy will b right afterall, lookin good 4 summertime gunners, are we ready?? :beer:

I'm a skeptic too. But what makes this a bit more interesting than the usual "it's gonna be out soon" news is that the Sanctuary Publishing news article actually mentioned the fact that Axl had recorded songs for Universal Music.

So, not only is Tommy saying they have finished tracks, so is Sanctuary.




/jarmo

I'm really shocked by how long it takes to release this album! is it THAT complicated to release an album and make a tour? Come on, a band like U2 has probably made 3 or 4 world tours since we started to hear about Chinese Democracy in the late 90's, and has already released 3 albums! It's crazy.

I remember in 1998, I wasn't registrered here but I read the messages, and I remember people were talking about the "new album for very soon", and then in 1999, 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004 (tired?)...we are in 2005 and there is still nothing. Give me a break, I just don't understand. :-X

You see, you gotta be, "optimist" my friend ;)

i remember ther was "rumours about a new albume in 1995 / 1996 also.. I guess the rumours about a new GNR have exicisted since they released Spegatti. thats over 10 years ago now. Damn.!

When is the last time Tommy spoke to Axl in person?The M.S.G. show?

oh please? He said that he went and listen to some of the final tracks before he wont on tour...  I guess they also meet to change presents during the hollidays!

I have no doubt there are finished tracks.  As a metter of fact I'm positive they have had finished tracks since 2002 because i heard 3 of them at the Boston show I went to.  And if those were not finished tracks, then they were obviously close enough so that they could have been finished in a month or two worth of work on them.

My doubt lies in the things that come out of Stinson and Reed's mouth.  I think they both mean well and probably both have reason to believe what they say, but I also see a history of them saying things and those things being wrong. 

I guess what makes me slightly optimistic is the new publishing deal.  Maybe, just maybe, that is the piece of the puzzle that was needed to get the ball rolling.  But to be honest, I have no real positive feelings that it is.

Even Axl has mentioned planned releases in the past. Seems like there's always something that comes up....



/jarmo

the record has actually been mixing for about 4 years now...it's so mixed that it doesn't even sound anything like what it originally was....

LOL.

But seriously speaking, I'd rather listen to songs that were written half a year ago, than songs that have been mixed and re written dozens of times.  :nervous:

Nytunz you are one sly cowboy.I know what you are getting at....A VERY SPECIAL GNR CHRISTMAS SHOW!They could all get together to exchange gifts on national television,this would be huge for CD! Axl by the fireplace, Tommy on his lap,Robin decorating the tree with his homemade collages.I think things are looking up in GNR World.....thanks to a great human being who is simlpy known by the name of nytunz.

LOL, the DVD will be out, sooner then later.. hehe.. Maybe Dizzy plays some christmas songs on Axl`s piano..

Yeah, I imagine a large part of the music has been basically done for quite some time, like a few years. At least once it must have been finished previous to the gnronline proclamation. But For some whatever reason or other it was set aside and meanwhile being polished and refreshed, expanded with new materials and bits here and there, it has been standing by for the final mixing n mastering till the release date is finally on the horizon, which is NOW.

just a thought but this theory fits in with what Tommy and Dizzy have said and all the then news.

you can read all about it here http://www.gnroffline.tk/? :)

Kerrang! already reported about 1 month ago that GN'R were rumoured to appear at the Donington festival this year, and sice i've never made the effort to goto Donington in the past, maybe this year i will  : ok:

God i wish they would fucking play again.... not in the states coz they just fucking tear on the band here.. let them play in europe or south america again....

I believe Kerrang! is full of sh*t.  :rant:

But that doesn't mean they wouldn't play there.

Here's an article about the rumour. They also put that fake tracklist  :P


Guns N? Roses UK Tour In Summer?

Guns N? Roses rumour update number 4,356: Most Gunners news should be taken with a pinch of salt, but bass player Tommy Stinson has been talking to various sources and it seems G N' R may be on the verge of doing? something. Will they tour? Is the album finished? Has Axl recorded any vocals?

Guns N? Roses bassist Stinson has hinted to Creative Loafing magazine in Atlanta that G N? R may be touring Europe in the summer of 2005.

When asked about the current status of the band, Stinson explained, "They're finishing up the mixing [of the new album] right now. Sorting out what songs are going on it and artwork and shit. And hopefully sooner than later, it'll come out.

?I understand there's probably some European dates booked in the summer. Hopefully, that'll
happen and we'll get over there and do it. Once it gets going, it's a lot of fun. There's a lot of f**kin' work involved with getting it going, but once it is going, it's a lot of fun."

However in an online webchat, the bass player said, ?The artwork, all those little things like that, getting all the, you know... The particulars, the little bits done...so they can actually get a release date and put it out. The music's done! It's been done... for a while.?

Elsewhere, Sanctuary Music Publishing announced recently that it has signed the publishing for Axl Rose. The deal covers all back catalogue, including classics such as ?Sweet Child Of Mine?, and all future compositions for the composer.

The album ?Chinese Democracy? may or may not include contributions from an undefined collection of musicians including Dizzy Reed (Keyboards, programming), Stinson himself (Bass), Robin Finck (Lead guitar), Richard Fortus (Rhythm guitar), Brian ?Brain? Mantia (Drums), Chris Pitman (Keyboardist, Special Effects) and departed lead guitarist Buckethead.

So what have we confirmed? Nothing. So while we?re at it, here?s a rumoured tracklist for the album:

   1. 'Chinese Democracy'
   2. 'This I Love'
   3. 'I.R.S.'
   4. 'Thyme'
   5.  'Substitute'
   6. 'The General'
   7. 'Seven'
   8. 'Madagascar'
   9. 'Ides Of March'
  10. 'Catcher In The Rye'
  11. 'Leave Me Alone'
  12. 'The Blues'
  13. 'Closing In On You'
  14. 'There Was A Time (TWAT)'

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