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I just had a look at the new kerrang mag because they said they reviewed Chinese Democracy sort of I knew it would prob be the songs the played live in 2001 and 2002 and gues what I was right they also said the stuff recorded during the illusion era like Just Another Sunday, Crash Diet, and Dust In The Wind so if you're thinking of getting it, its not worth it

Does anyone have the article to type up? I'd be quite amused to hear what they've written :hihi:

Did Kerrang actually download one of the fake "Chinese Democracy" bootlegs off a file sharing service and review it? I recall seeing "Chinese Democracy" on SoulSeek with the live songs and the songs you mentioned. LMAO. What a piece of shit magazine.

http://www.slashsworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13109


Thanks to RR for the link.




/jarmo

 :rofl:

New Era Kerrang are so moronic, it defies belief.

Crash Diet  :rofl:

How unprepared can one writer be, and how under-researched is this thing? Kerrang editors let this feces go to print?  Jeez

I bet the writer even calls himself a journalist.....




/jarmo

i am not sure but I believe one of the senior members of Kerrang wrote the article, if not the senior member of Kerrang

It's? :o :nervous: :confused: :rofl: :hihi:

from the link

Crash Diet

Chances Of Making It Onto The Album: Reasonably good.
Quality control should weed this out if it stays as it is, but it may appease old school fans.
 :o ..................

Yeah my thoughts exactly from Kerrang that was poor and when they were talking about songs recorded from illusion oh my god what a piece of shit of a mag

Is anyone going to write into to Kerrang to get this sorted out, its completely nonsense and as Kerrang is the most widely sold ''metal'' magasine in the UK it has the potential to do considerable damage to the band.

Just another sunday? FFS, does this guy just download stuff off the net? I was expecting 'my fellow americans' and 'white christmas' to turn up to ::)

That article is one of the poorest examples of "journalism" I've ever seen.  The research, alone, should get the writer sacked.

 :nervous: :confused:

What about My Favorite Pillow???   ;D

Seriously, can someone contact Kerrang???  This is crazy.

They don't even seem to notice that Dust in the wind is a cover. I knew that the quality of Kerrang mag had deteriorated, but still I can hardly believe what I've just read  :nervous:

false, these are boots from gigs

on chinese democracy? yeah? ::)

buckethead parts stays, several current members says so. The other stuff sure is bs too (robin erased? ::) )
better fact is that what remain of what producers did\worked on is unknown

is it so? someone knows?

can not belive kerrang wrote that,? :confused: is it legit? jeez? :hihi: habe anyone seen that mickwall article yet?

That article is an embarrassment, plain and simple.  Embarrassing.  How could he even possible think that songs like Crash Diet and Just Another Sunday are new songs?  All he would have to do is 10 minutes of research to realize that these are old songs.  Plus, he messed up several other simple facts (Oh My God released in 2001; it came out in 1999, and the Blues being played occasionally; it was played virtually every new show).  More reason for Axl to lash out at Kerrang in his songs :).

gnrvrrule may be onto something here.  Could Kerrang be looking for some free publicity?  The first time I ever heard of Kerrang was in Get in the Ring off UYI2.  This article is written as if they want to get slammed by Uncle Axl.  Whatever it takes to sell copy.   :no:

I try to ignore any articles written about GN'R without actually interviewing a past or present member.? I'm not interested in what some asshole thinks would make a good Guns cd and then rave about the new Usher or other POP shit to hit the market.? I can honestly say that this is the worst article I have ever read.? Journalist are supposed to pride themselves with fact finding and reporting the truth.? This article was anything but the truth and served as nothing more than a way for Kerrang to sell magazines by whoring out the GN'R name.? :rant:

Does anyone have the contact information for Kerrang. I cant seem to get their "contact us" section on the website working.

Someone send the article to Merck, get him to forward it to Axl, then he can write another song slagging Kerrang off. They deserve it.

Its almost insulting to read that article, the writer obviously has no knowledge of guns n roses past and present.

Absolutly apporling!

Jonx

Just to add: Buckethead didn't play the solo, his guitar is almost inaudible on The Blues! ::)

I guess the moron who wrote this article (I refused to call him journalist, as I am) took some info from some really cool website with its last update in 02/2001.  :hihi:

What no "Ain't goin' down" or "sentimental movie"  :hihi:
This just in from Kerrang "Bring it back home" is Chinese Democracy's first single!

I guess Mick Wall at kerrang isn't the unique stupid guy in this shitty publication. this "journalist" needs to be fired....so does the editor, director, etc etc.

Maybe it would be more fun to show them how it should be done? I'm sure there's enough people on the board with the knowledge and creativity...

Buckethead doesn't play guitar on "the blues". the journalist is nut...

Crash Diet sounds great! Chinese Democracy starts now! ;D

Did anyone hear the new song off CD called "Welcome to the Jungle"?

he didn't even review "my way your way". i'm told it's gonna be the opener on CD.


Seriously, Crash Diet was recorded before the illusions sessions for fucks sake.

what a funny article...But it would be very cool if they put a new version of crash diet on CD tho...

and what about this new ballad called november rain or something like that ???    ............

I can`t believe that this article is in the new issue of kerrang :-\

That`s really poor, I agree with Cocaine_Tongue who said that the "journalist" and his editor nedd to be fired. I really can`t understand how someone can be that stupid....

Probably people at kerrang think this article is very well written and done overall, with a great research work behind it.

Kerrang's website has a feedback forum.  There's already a thread pertaining to this article.

Yes, he plays the rhythm, altought only the "bass" notes. (the C - D/F# - Em part)

 :o
well... I'm impressed!   : ok:

don't understand just about any of the 'technical guitar' terms/talk..... but I love hearin' it anyways! :D

What I'm REALLY looking forward to more than even the RS coverage of CD and GN'R when it comes out is the coverage in GUITAR WORLD.   I love that magazine!  Now that's music journalism  : ok:

Yeah, that would be really cool. I bet it will be a lot of guitar stuff to talk about...  :yes:

How could they possibly believe Crash Diet to be a new song?

This article is beyond a joke - Kerrang is a laughable publication...

O can tell you 1st hand that GW is VERY interested in covering them too if/when they get a chance.  : ok:

Kerrap's been going to the dogs for a good few years now.  This article is a very good example of why I stopped buying it about 4 years

That would be cool. But how they'll deal with this kind of press if Buckethead is not on the band anymore but his guitar work - I guess - will stay on CD? I mean... every guitar magazine will look for Bucket to say something about this.

ps: do you work for the Guitar World? How do you know about that?

At first, I laughed my ass off when I read this.  But then I thought: "Hey, these are the people that talk shit about new GNR and make fans think that the new guns are shit"

Forget research, a good music journalist shoud know that those songs are old GNR simply by their sound and, of course, recognize Slash's guitar!!!

Slash didn't play in Crash Diet. Also, Just Another Sunday don't have any signature Slash work... Hell, I don't even know if Slash plays on this track.

If you want some real laughs you should go to the Kerrang website forum and look at the morons defending Kerrang for printing that trash by saying things like the article is okay because nobody really knows for sure that those songs won't be on Chinese Democracy  :rofl:

im pissed off with kerrang! b4, i used 2 buy the magazine. it was their 2 giv news on metal, punk etc. but now they've started showing fuking rappers and hip-hop. i mean, its a magazine 4 rokers. but ne way, the news, sorry OLD NEWS!

 actually its not even news. im sik of kerrang!

Has any one written in to the magasine yet?

While we can laugh at this, there are people out there reading that article that accept it as the truth, we don't need our beloved band further damaged.

I know there are threads on their forum but i doubt they read that....

Was this written by you estranged? well done!!!. Great thread at the kerrang forum, specially this part:

"No, the point is you have no clue what you're talking about.

A few examples.:

1. "Dust In The Wind" was a cover song used as an intro to "November Rain" during the UYI tours. To suggest Axl wrote the lyrics to "dramatise himself" only serves to prove your research took a backseat to propaganda. Please refer to Todd Rundgren's Something/Anything album for the original.

2. "Oh My God" was released in 1999 not 2001. The End of Days soundtrack, specifically, was released in America on Nov. 9, 1999.

3. "Silkworms" was an incomplete song when it was played a handful of times in 2001 and 2002. Claiming it was a setlist "stayer" is ridiculous. Out of the few dozen shows that occured during 2001 and 2002, "Silkworms" appeared roughly four times. Further claiming it has "very high" chances of making it onto Chinese Democracy automatically rules you out as a reputable source for GN'R news.

4. "Crash Diet" and "Just Another Sunday" were songs in contention, though not necessarily written, for the Illusion albums. Rightly so, they were shelved. It's a wonder you didn't tack on "Bring It Back Home", "Cornshucker, "Scrap Bar Daze", and "Sentimental Movie" to this list. To your credit, at least you didn't whip out p2p 'exclusive' tracks like "My Favorite Pillow" and "My Fellow Americans".

5. "Riyadh and the Bedouins" and "Oklahoma" are two completely different songs. Stating "Riyadh and the Bedouins" has been "changed many times" is an assumption based on the fact you've been duped into believing two songs were one. Structurally, it remained the same from the House of Blues show onward. Please cite such glaring changes.

6. "The Blues" was performed at most if not every gig during 2001 and 2002. Citing it as an occasional piece illuminates your piss poor research.

7. Erasing Buckethead's parts? Highly unlikely, according to recent bandmember interviews. Erasing Finck's parts? Do you really think that's plausible considering he's still in the band? Perhaps you're simply holding steadfast to an old rumor.

Your article, rife with assumption, was a complete disservice to your magazine and community.

As a suggestion, please consider the following links for future projects pertaining to Chinese Democracy.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com

http://www.newgnr.com/newgnr.html

http://www.sp1at.com

Should you be genuinely interested in Chinese Democracy's sound, perhaps you'd like to peruse through a few comments made by musicians who claim to have actually heard the unreleased songs.

Paul Buckmaster -- "Prostitute" . . . "has mid-up, kind of biting, aggressive rhythm section; vocals were only guides, not finished At the time I was working one it, so can' T really say what kind of character they are; the way I wrote for the string section (32-part, consisting of ten 1st Violins, eight 2nd Violins, six violated, and eight cellos) gives the song another dimension of, have I said, ice and fire, kind of powerful "

Marco Beltrami -- "They gave me four songs to orchestrate. A couple of them I did more than orchestrating, I actually wrote some melodies and stuff. It was a fun project. I really enjoyed it. The music was eclectic and at the time that I was doing it there were no lyrics on the songs that I was working on."

Marco Beltrami -- "A song called "Seven," which is the one that I did the most work on, I actually did some writing on. There was one called "Thyme," one called "The General," one called "Leave Me Alone.""
http://music.ign.com/articles/429/429455p1.html

Brian May -- "So you're talking about Axl and the 'new' Guns N' Roses but, boy, is there a lot of energy there and his singing is outrageous. There's some great tracks on it."

Brian May -- "Oh yeah, there's a whole album of vocal parts. In fact, there's two albums worth that they've got there, at least. They played me everything. Axl actually sat down and made me listen to everything (laughs) and there's some wonderful stuff there. " "

Well, then you, pilferk and the person who wrote it, did a great job at the kerrang forum. : ok:

Who played on guitar in Crash Diet?