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was talkin' to my mate Dave about how Buckets left and this ain't gonna be a who should replace Bucket topic or nothing but we got saying, there's an empty space and ol' Izzy ain't up to nothin' with Velvet Revolver like we thought he'd be...

Watching the 'Don't Cry' makin' fuckin videos it's obivious that Axl missed him but how would you feel if Axl asked him back and he accepted??

Fine by me.... ;D

That would never happen but it would fucking rule....

I'm not religious but I would get down on my knees and praise the Lord for that.......

I'm sure 99% of the people here would love it if Izzy rejoined.

Izzys the man!  ;D

No thanks! I do not want this to be some kind of nostalgia-thing. Therefore I don't want any of the old members coming back. This is Axls vision and it's about great music, not a big comeback to make big money.
Besides that, it's not gonna happen..

WTF are you talking about man? Axl's vision bla bla bla..... who says that Izzy's return would be about the money? The main reason alot of people are on this board is because of Izzy's songs so shut the fuck up or get your facts straight. He wrote (together with Axl) most of GNR's songs, I bet Axl would love to write with Izzy again......

WTF are you talking about man? Axl's vision bla bla bla..... who says that Izzy's return would be about the money? The main reason alot of people are on this board is because of Izzy's songs so shut the fuck up or get your facts straight.
Hey tough guy!  :-* What do you know about "the main reason" why a lot of people are on this board? Izzy co-wrote those songs with Axl, and without Axl the lyrics and melodies wouldn't be all that good. Just look at his solo albums: good, but nothing really great except parts of "Ju Ju Hounds". And I will not shut up...

I bet Axl would love to write with Izzy again......

What do you really know about that? Get your facts straight.

Well, talk as much as you want then. The main reason people like GNR is because of all the music they've made. Well, alot of that music is written by Izzy, so to me it's just 1+1=2.


I have my facts straight. What do you know that all of us don't know? Axl loved Izzy's songs and he was the most upset about Izzy's departure, seems to me than that he liked Izzy the best  :love:  :-*

i would fucking love it if izzy came back to guns.. nobody can call it axl's above average cover band anymore if izzy joined

well being that Izzy doesn't seem to enjoy touring and the drama of waiting to see if the braided one would show up... ???

if he did rejoin (barring some major communication break through with Axl), it probably would be out of a financial need...which would be sad :no:

I'd love it if he came back because he wanted to...but that won't happen in my lifetime...
  :drool:

The songwriting duo of Rose/Stradlin is up there with the likes of Lennon/McCartney.  If Izzy were to rejoin Axl & GNR; I'd kill to hear the music.  That would be the greatest day of my life (Other than seeing GNR from row 1 on Nov 17th, .02.).

Lennon /McCartney? Come on.... ::)

i love the new band,? :D it?would be cool as an addition? : ok:

I love it when people think any old member returning means "nostalgia" I mean what the fuck??? Its only viewed as a nostalgia act when a band has disbanded and after X years the rejoin to make money via a greatest hits tour or something to that effect.
If they keep making music and being sucessful its hard to see it as nostalgia.
Izzy rejoining would only help seeing as the new GNR stuff is going nowhere for 2 years now.

It would definately give me more confidence in new GNR.  Don't see it happening though.

It would be fantastic!? : ok:

I'd love to hear Izzy is back with GnR

It would be great for Axl as well cos they were best friends for years, and Axl says he begged him on the phone not to leave and cried for hours after, it's really sad that they don't even speak anymore. :'(? C'mon guys - best friends are for ever!? :beer:

I feel it is necessary to aplogize to the Rock Gods for this kind of blasphemy.

Friendship is one thing, band chemistry is another.

Ha, I?m the one hundredth. So are a few others here.  I wouldn?t be upset or very excited. :coffee:

Or rather?Even the thought of it makes me Yawn. That?s a totally wrong track IMO.

there are two HUGE reasons why this would be extremely highly unlikely:

1.axl's huge ego
2.izzy's bruised ego

izzy quit because of the treatment from axl, a treatment that scarred him so badly he now says he would never be in a band with another lead singer, from what i read that's the reason he's not in VR. (not trying to start a flame war here, but i for one think that VR with izzy as a frontman would have ruled. probably wouldn't have been as commercially successful though...) then, according to reports, izzy showed up at axl's front gate a couple years back wanting to talk and axl's ego/stubbornness turned izzy away. talk about adding insult to injury. i'd love to see it, but i sincerely doubt it would EVER happen. in fact, i'd be less surprised to see slash & duff back than izzy back.

</my 2?>

Why? I hate the Beatles, I love Guns n' roses! Do I have the right to think so, or are they bands that EVERYBODY has to love? I don't buy it, sorry,...

Well, i really like the new band the way it is now! I would rather se Izzy and the original lineup come together in 10 - 15 years from now, When Axl have done that he want with hes new stuff...  But it prob. be too late then... So.. if he could join the new band without replacing anyone, then it would be ok.

I really liked Izzy and I like his solo stuff, but I don't see it happening. It would be nice though.

This is NEVER going to happen.  No way, no how.  Britney Spears will join GNR before Izzy Stradlin...sorry.  :no:

I'd be fine with it, but I don't think Izzy would.

my thoughts exactly...would be nice, but ain't gonna happen...
(although I am no expert at what happened behind the scenes, but 3 original band members don't just "quit" a band based soley on MUSICAL difference....other things led to thier exits)
I've always felt that Izzy was a key songwriter (although I have no proof of this).  And yes, most of us agree that his solo stuff ain't that grand (I own all cds), but it's a mellower style--relfective of his (and only his) personality (i.e. "Invisible Izzy"--not the main man).  NEVER gonna happen (I have my bets on Chi. Dem. being released first well b4 Izzy returns...)

As has been said, Izzy would never join and Axl would never take him, hence it's a non-issue.

I think the old band produced it's best work when Axl and Izzy, along with Slash, worked together. ?But that was the old band.

As talented of a musician and songwriter as Stradlin' is, I don't think he would "mesh" well with the current line-up. ?

And it would be even more impossible on a personal level. ?Being as how far back Izzy and Axl go, there is WAY too much baggage there.

?I also wonder still why did Axl love Izzy so very much? ?...it's just cuz they both were lovers(those guys are gays) n' we dodn't know it yet to date? ?:o well, that's something Axl n' Izzy know deep own inside only, they ever say they were good friend from Indiana but i guess it's not enough to feel each other this rare feeling ?::) :no: ...[color]

sorry for posting again, but I just read the above, and it has to be the most stupidist thing I've seen...I mean r u tryin to be funny? cuz it's a lame attempt.  It's called FRIENDSHIP/BOND....thier are different levels of love my dear..... ::)

I'd love if Izzy were to rejoin, but only under the right circumstances and for the right reasons

Izzy tried getting back with Axl a couple times in the mid-late 90's, supposedly even exchanged song ideas, maybe hoping they would be on good terms again, but Axl cut off contact from Izzy. He did said he got a phone call from Axl maybe about reconciling, and Axl was going on about childhood things, and differences going back before GNR, and Izzy said he thought that Axl was crazy as ever. 

I would be disappointed because I wouldn't want to see him re-join without the other original members, but GNR would be better off with him than without him.

I would love it.  It would be brilliant.  If there were no drama.  But I don't see it happening ever again.  So sad. 

I read an interview with Izzy a few yrs ago  where he stated that he sent Axl a bunch of songs, Axl replied with a cold laywers request to sign the rights of those songs over 100% to rose......Izzy was upset that he was treated with such a lack of respect and couldnt believe that a buddy was being so cold and calculated...I think the quote was "fuck off with all the laywers....he coulda just had em"...or something similar

Can I ask a dumb question about the Rose/Stradlin songwriting partnership:  how do we know which songs they wrote together?  A few of the Illusion tracks say explicitly - but the Lies and AfD tracks are creditied to the whole band - so I've always assumed they were a colaborative effort.  Does anyone know any differently?

it'd be gd but annoying in the sense that it would take longer to release as they'd have to re-record the guitar parts.

You are a lying sack of shit.I probably read most of izzy's interviews and I bet your dad's left nut(if he still has one after that incident with your mom which you were  the unfortunate  product of) that you are full of it
 Izzy would give up millions if axl asked him nicely?Seriously,are you that retarded

As for writting credits thread,here is the link

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=17324.0

I am a fortune teller. I can see the future...the next post will be a mod telling you to calm the truck down.

Well I bet discobiscuit1  dad's right nut that he read the thread I gave link to prior to posting that crap

Captain Obvious was right... Calm the truck down...

???

Don't get your stained knickers in a twist..I was only joking in the last post...indeed,I would never risk someone's nut

:rofl: For ur information I study Psychologist n' I can honestly say the only stupid thing on it were ur lines written to me cuz I never tried to sound funny, I just said what I think it would be!!!, so I guess you should try to understand people deep own inside before open ur mouth...if Izzy n' Axl were lovers, if they're gays what's the fucking problem then?? ::) .... if they were good mates only so the same I repeat to you again (SO WHAT?)...got it this time baby?? :smoking: ... TOO I wanna know why didn't u answer me the reason about Izzy didn't play to V.R? Maybe it's just cuz u're afraid to say Duff N' Slash hate Izzy these days...?? ;D ... tell me another matter, do u think Izzy is very important to play for GNR these days when Axl's found out other amazing musicians around like B.H.? Hell!!!! , I think Izzy is a? amazing musician ? can u think about?? :-\ :drool:[/color][/b]

Izzy re-joing Guns would be one of the coolest things that could possibly happen to that band...But, as many have already pointed out, itll never happen.  :'(

The second coming of Jesus Christ will happen before Izzy rejoins the band. I have also wished for years that Izzy would come back but it just isn't gonna happen. There is too much animosity between Axl and Izzy for it too happen. If they ever got back together, I believe they probably wouldnt make any progress. Plus, Izzy playing without Slash definitely wouldn't be the same. Izzy and Slash were the best guitarist combo in history in my opinion. One without the other just isnt the same.

how bout u guys gamble with your own nuts and stop gambling with mine? :hihi:

*get it? gambling with your dad's, im both of your dad's so they are my nuts... get it?? oh well! :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:*


anyhow fuck no i dont want any old member rejoining the band

ive waited this long to see what axl wanted to do that he couldnt do with the old guys

so i want to see what he's got

after that sure they all can reunite

but for CD i dont want any old members anywhere near it.

EXACTLY!

W. Axl Rose lives or dies with Chinese Democracy...

:rofl: For ur information I study Psychologist n' I can honestly say the only stupid thing on it were ur lines written to me cuz I never tried to sound funny, I just said what I think it would be!!!, so I guess you should try to understand people deep own inside before open ur mouth...if Izzy n' Axl were lovers, if they're gays what's the fucking problem then?? ::) .... if they were good mates only so the same I repeat to you again (SO WHAT?)...got it this time baby?? :smoking: ... TOO I wanna know why didn't u answer me the reason about Izzy didn't play to V.R? Maybe it's just cuz u're afraid to say Duff N' Slash hate Izzy these days...?? ;D ... tell me another matter, do u think Izzy is very important to play for GNR these days when Axl's found out other amazing musicians around like B.H.? Hell!!!! , I think Izzy is a? amazing musician ? can u think about?? :-\ :drool:[/color][/b]

u study pshycology?  Well you better crack open those books a bit more often/study harder!
1st of all, obviously there is nothin w/ being homosexual...it's a natural/endocrine/genetic associated occurance(so don't make any assumptions about my opinions on that matter!)  let's just say I have "gay-dar" and those two were not lovers.
As for ur other Qs...yawn....

Man, have you been samplin' too much of the coca plant down there in Venezuela???? ?:hihi:

First you barge in here making everyone think - for about 15 minutes anyway - that GN'R are gonna do a concert there.? ?::)

Now you're up on this whole thing about Axl and Izzy being former lovers or whatever.? ???? :P

What the fuck are you talking about?? They were close friends since grade school, formed a band called Guns N' Roses, and then went their different ways.? No more, no less.? And it's obvious they both liked the ladies.? :yes:

So quit talking bullshit and learn fuckin' ENGLISH!? :rant:

that'd be awesome if izzy rejoined, then we could get Mr T. on drums and all the rage against the machine guys in there playing the marraccas (sp?)....cuz if we're gonna go play in dream land....let's take it all the way.........