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Title: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: GNFNR_UK on January 23, 2005, 12:18:53 AM
I say very.
When Bucket left I read a few people on the board saying 'oh well GNR didn't need 3 guitarists anyway', maybe that is the case, however I believe they needed Bucket. Had they lost Fortus or Finck then maybe the loss wouldn't be as great.
Anyone who is a fan of Bucketheads solo work knows he has his own uniue sound, one that I would imagine is very hard to replicate, I mean the guy can make sounds from a guitar I didn't know possible.The other night I was watching his solo from the Albany performance with some of my friends and we were all in complete awe of how amazing it was and it got me thinking about how CD is gonna sound, then I remembered that Bucket aint with them no more and Axl will undoubtedly have his parts replaced and it saddened me. In short what i'm trying to say is Axl wants GNR's sound pushed forward and Bucket was the man to help him do this, without Bucket this might be hard to achive because players like him don't come around very often. Hre's hoping he comes back!

Your thoughts please...


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: norway on January 23, 2005, 12:21:19 AM
yup i miss bucket, luckily his parts will stay on the album according to tommy :beer:


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: Butch Français on January 23, 2005, 12:24:09 AM
yeah I know what you're talking about, and I agree with you 100%.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: GNFNR_UK on January 23, 2005, 12:32:18 AM
yup i miss bucket, luckily his parts will stay on the album according to tommy :beer:

I know Tommy said that but do you really believe Axl will keep Bucket on 'his' album? As much as I wish he would I can't see it happening.
Knowing how Axl is with grudges (And the little jabs at Buckethead in the press release) I don't think he's gonna want a guy who left his band on an album that is so important to him. The last thing he wants is for Buckethead to gain even MORE recognition from a new GNR release, I mean he already thinks Bucket used his position in GNR to gain more fans. I wish Axl would leave it how it is, at a guess I would say it was ready before Buckethead left but Axl's probably having someone re-do his parts as we speak, hence making us wait longer  >:(


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: norway on January 23, 2005, 12:51:23 AM

I know Tommy said that but do you really believe Axl will keep Bucket on 'his' album?
off course, brian may is there too : ok:


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: GNFNR_UK on January 23, 2005, 01:04:59 AM

I know Tommy said that but do you really believe Axl will keep Bucket on 'his' album?
off course, brian may is there too : ok:

Yeah I know but Axl doesn't have any grudge with Brian May, I think he has with Buckethead.
Not trying to be negative, just realistic.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: norway on January 23, 2005, 01:11:44 AM
Yeah I know but Axl doesn't have any grudge with Brian May, I think he has with Buckethead.
Not trying to be negative, just realistic.
guess you are,?  :nervous:
axl said he is disapointed but remained open 4 discussions in his letter...

so imo realisticly there's not such a big deal, and buckethead is just amazing and in the name of music i am positve that axl won't remove bucketheads parts and tommy's right,
?
? :beer:

-even though tommy has spoken that harshest words against buckethead...


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: SodatopsPhalen on January 23, 2005, 04:47:23 AM
i hope he stays on the album..if that puppy ever comes out..Buckethead bots dont really even anticipate the album with him on it cause its non release is such a joke


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: Scabbie on January 23, 2005, 05:10:11 AM
Well last week I listened to the Big Eyeball in the Sky, and its difficult not to be impressed by Buckethead's guitaring.

Assuming he has spent three years in a chicken coop at the Village Studios then I would say he was a fairly important to the future sound of GNR.

Personally I don't think they will miss out BH's parts, but they may try to reduce some of his influence by using other earlier recordings (such as Brian May mentioned above) and mixing it up a bit.

The questions is, If they don't have a new guitarist, and BH's contribution is a major part of the album's success, what are they gonna do then?


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: Sakib on January 23, 2005, 07:36:46 AM
buckethead was mint guitarist. he also made me laff a lot cuz he introduced himself by playing a little solo and it he played old mcdonalds had a farm and he played it so well it was hilarious and then the star wars theme tune for a very short bit (when they show the evil ppl e.g. darth vader etc.) u no the thun thun thun THUN THU THUN-THUN0THU-THUN!

n e way, he's bloody brilliant but lets hope that finck and fortus can pull it off. surely, they dont have t have 3 guitarists.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: Genesis on January 23, 2005, 08:26:56 AM
Very very important. IMO he's the one to replace Slash in GN'R.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: WARose on January 23, 2005, 08:37:35 AM
i heard somewhere that axl is still paying bucket, so maybe he decided or will decide to come back to gnr what i really hope. his guitaring is unbelievable. i think the live shows will be a lot better when bucket was back in the band. if not i will miss the paradise city solo for sure.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: GNROSAS on January 23, 2005, 09:03:50 AM
Definately Buckethead For me was the most interesting part in the new band. I just love his playing and his personna. I bellieve that he was the right choice to replace Slash cause he was exactly the opposite of Slash. When i listen to robin in my mind Slash appears. Slash is very unique and to one extend irreplacable in his blues style guitar. Now Buckethead was the opposite and he is unique and irreplacable on his own right. Oi has the prefect choice for this new band imo.

I wish when the album comes out he will come back to play his guitar parts live...


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: ppbebe on January 23, 2005, 10:02:31 AM
Yep. Buckethead is unique in persona n playing beyond comparison.

The questions is, If they don't have a new guitarist, and BH's contribution is a major part of the album's success, what are they gonna do then?

If they ask, BH may not say no after the release.

On the other hand, if they have a new smashing guitarist, even more original than BH (is it possible?), we won?t hear BH on the album.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: makemyday on January 23, 2005, 10:03:46 AM
Well I also think that it was really important. When I'm listening his solo albums I always think this combine with Axl's songwriting would kick ass. When he left I felt like that everything's lost. Looks like from eight people, the one who wore a mask and a bucket was the only sane...


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 23, 2005, 11:11:57 AM
As long as BHs parts say on the album Ill be happy, I couldnt care less if he doesnt tour with them. The album is the thing we will have to listen to forever not one live show that we go to.  Its like the people that hate how the new band plays the songs, they still have AFD, lies and UYIs to listen to the orginal way they were played.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: nesquick on January 23, 2005, 11:46:06 AM
How can someone be exited to see a weird guy with a scary white mask and a bucket on his head? How can someone be exited to see a cold cold guy shredding without any emotion? If you think that's the way Rock n' Roll should be played, ok it's your choice but for me Buckethead is the exact opposite of Rock n' Roll.

I think the new band is MUCH better without him: tigher and more cohesive.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: Slipdisc on January 23, 2005, 11:52:49 AM
How can somebody be so close-minded...

-PEACE-


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: younggunner on January 23, 2005, 12:12:13 PM
I want Bucket back in the worst way. If his parts stay on the album I cant complain but I look at it as him being in the band. He added a whole nother dimension for GNR. I could give 2 fucks if some Slash fanatics hate him. The guy is an amazing, EXPLOSIVE player with a cool image. I couldnt wait to see him in the videos and stuff. Dammmmm....

Bucket is great and hopefully he will come back when he sees Axl is serious about releasing the album.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: nesquick on January 23, 2005, 12:20:15 PM
How can somebody be so close-minded...

-PEACE-
It's not the question. that guy doesn't fit in Guns N' Roses and that's all.  I never said he was bad, he is very talented but shredding is not what I think GN'R is about... Buckethead seemed appart of the band, and really was and still is and forever will be. Don't forget Fortus + Finck made 75% of the job, most of the time BH did nothing onstage, he was just standing for shredding during 45 sec or 1 mn on 5, 6, or 7 minutes songs and that's it. look at your video bootlegs...


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: younggunner on January 23, 2005, 12:33:10 PM
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that guy doesn't fit in Guns N' Roses and that's all.
says who? he fits just fine to me. In fact he puts them on an even higher scale.

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but shredding is not what I think GN'R is about...
You know nothing about Buckethead then

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Don't forget Fortus + Finck made 75% of the job, most of the time BH did nothing onstage, he was just standing for shredding during 45 sec or 1 mn on 5, 6, or 7 minutes songs and that's it
Maybe because he wasnt needed as much on the old material. If your gonna judge him on old gnr your an idiot. If Bucket remains on the album I think your going to have a completely different opinion of him....



Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: oneway23 on January 23, 2005, 12:51:45 PM
Said it before, without Bucket, they're an average band...Bucket gies them something unique and puts them over the top in terms of opening up diverse musical stylings...Really sad to see him depart...his albums since have been really enjoyable though


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: nesquick on January 23, 2005, 12:55:55 PM
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Maybe because he wasnt needed as much on the old material.
is "the blues" old material? because he doesn't even play on that one his guitar is off.
I think BH made the new GN'R turn into a worldwide joke. His interview with kurt loder in 2002 was painfull. Is he a 12 years old boy? He seems extremely imature. I think someone should tell him we don't live in a cartoon. What a shame He was for the Guns N' Roses name? :no:


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: younggunner on January 23, 2005, 12:59:04 PM
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I think BH made the new GN'R turn into a worldwide joke.
actually i think he gave them some more credibility and something to offset the slash factor. Extremes are the way to go....
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His interview with kurt loder in 2002 was painfull to watch
like ive always said...not evey1 will undertsand bucket and his friend herbie

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What a shame He is for the Guns N' Roses name
man i cant wait till the album comes out


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: nesquick on January 23, 2005, 01:01:08 PM
hum...you didn't reply on "the blues". I think I own you... ;D


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: younggunner on January 23, 2005, 01:01:44 PM
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is "the blues" old material? because he doesn't even play on that one his guitar is off.
thats 1 new song out of the 5 they played

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hum...you didn't reply on "the blues". I think I own you...
um i forgot to put it in my reply...
u own me? haha i dont think uve won 1 argument with me since uve been here...but hey whos counting...keep trying though....maybe 1 day, someday


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: oneway23 on January 23, 2005, 01:27:59 PM
Here's a person telling people how immature buckethead is when he's discounting someone based upon appearance alone.  I'm sure buckethead is mature enough to know that immature is spelled with 2 M's...is that petty enough?


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: Pandora on January 23, 2005, 01:30:23 PM
Nesquick is at it again  ::)  Don't forget to add that Robin is a goth with an indus sound who doesn't fit in the band either  :hihi:

Anyway, this is getting moved to the Ex-Gunners section...


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: nesquick on January 23, 2005, 01:33:54 PM
Here's a person telling people how immature buckethead is when he's discounting someone based upon appearance alone.? I'm sure buckethead is mature enough to know that immature is spelled with 2 M's...is that petty enough?
No I talked about his guitar playing also, about shredding instead of playing.

Nesquick is at it again? ::)? Don't forget to add that Robin is a goth with an indus sound who doesn't fit in the band either? :hihi:

Anyway, this is getting moved to the Ex-Gunners section...
I'm among these persons who think that everything is important and should be taken into consideration. and the look is a criteria among several ones. If Britney Spears was fat and ugly, do you really think she would have sold over 50 million records worldwide? come on... :confused:
The FIRST thing that had been discussed by the media and most of people after the VMA 2002 was "Axl is fat now". This is the way it works. I never said I agreed with that, but this is the way it works.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: ppbebe on January 23, 2005, 03:14:34 PM
Then jump on the bandwagon of Britney Spear. That?s so rock n? roll for ya. :hihi:


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: SodatopsPhalen on January 23, 2005, 03:50:01 PM
he doesnt play on the blues?


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: nesquick on January 23, 2005, 09:13:22 PM
no he doesn't.


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: SodatopsPhalen on January 24, 2005, 02:26:43 AM
buckethead totally plays on the blue..wheres your proof/?


Title: Re: How important was Buckethead to the future and new sound of GNR??
Post by: norway on January 24, 2005, 08:02:01 AM
who playes guitar on the most popular new song  :P
i think he rules, especially musicwise, yeah  :smoking: