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Title: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: GypsySoul on January 20, 2005, 08:47:37 PM
Source: blabbermouth.net

GUNS N' ROSES Guitarist Quits, Joins NINE INCH NAILS?

According to The NIN Hotline - http://www.theninhotline.net/news/index.php - guitarist Richard Fortus has quit GUNS N' ROSES and has joined NINE INCH NAILS.

"Given that former NINE INCH NAILS' guitarist Robin Finck was working with GUNS N' ROSES, this, of course, only makes sense," reads a posting on the web site.

If true, Fortus' departure will be the second time a GUNS N' ROSES guitarist has left the group in a little over a year. Back in late 2003, guitarist Buckethead became fed up with GUNS' inability to complete an album or tour and stopped working the band, his manager said last March.

A former member of LOVE SPIT LOVE and PSYCHEDELIC FURS, Fortus joined GUNS N' ROSES in July 2002 as the replacement for Paul Huge (a.k.a. Paul Tobias).

In addition to LOVE SPIT LOVE and PSYCHEDELIC FURS, Fortus has done extensive session work with acts like BT, GRAVITY KILLS, 'N SYNC and ENRIQUE IGLESIAS.
end from blabbermouth.net

post from theninhotline.net
Exclusive: Former Guns n' Roses Guitarist Joins NIN
Sources who know what's up tell us that Richard Fortus has quit Guns N Roses and joined the once-open position of guitarist with Nine Inch Nails.
Given that former Nine Inch Nails' guitarist Robin Finck was working with Guns n' Roses, this, of course, only makes sense.
 



Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Eazy E on January 20, 2005, 09:36:58 PM
Don't worry.... if it's true, he'll be back in 2 years.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Kahz on January 20, 2005, 09:42:37 PM
1997 - Robin Finck quits NIN, joins GNR.
1999 - Robin Finck quits GNR, joins NIN.
2000 - Robin Finck quits NIN, joins GNR.
2005 - Richard Fortus quits GNR, joins NIN.
2005 - Axl puts out a contract on Trent Reznor's life.



Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: GypsySoul on January 20, 2005, 09:57:38 PM
Malcolm actually got this to post before me in the thread "From Blabbermouth"
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=18161.0

PLUS HE ALSO POSTED A MENTION THAT THIS RUMOR MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN STUCK DOWN BY SANCTUARY


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: chineseblues on January 20, 2005, 10:21:41 PM
It's false : http://www.silence-isnt-golden.com/MetaBB/viewtopic.php?t=583&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on January 20, 2005, 10:37:20 PM
Did they say the same thing bout BH when the rumours started flyin bout him leaving the band?


 :peace:


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: insupportofaxl on January 20, 2005, 10:51:53 PM
Did they say the same thing bout BH when the rumours started flyin bout him leaving the band?


 :peace:


Yes............they denied that too and look what happened :-\



Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Jizzo on January 20, 2005, 10:53:47 PM
I really doubt he's gonna leave, im sure axl will just give him a raise if he really wants him to stay


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: norway on January 20, 2005, 10:57:32 PM
it's sooo fake, richard and nin  ::)


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: D on January 20, 2005, 11:08:30 PM
who cares? if they wanna leave let them leave, i dont want people in GNR that arent loyal anyway.


If Axl and GNR can survive the original members leaving, no replacement member leaving is gonna slow the group down any slower than things are.

GNR will continue with or without fortus.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: younggunner on January 20, 2005, 11:19:53 PM
i highly doubt its true. We will know sooner rather than later though. So lets just see what happens


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on January 20, 2005, 11:33:57 PM
who cares? if they wanna leave let them leave, i dont want people in GNR that arent loyal anyway.


If Axl and GNR can survive the original members leaving, no replacement member leaving is gonna slow the group down any slower than things are.

GNR will continue with or without fortus.


You got heart man N' I like that, but BH left and that slowed GN'R. So i hope its not true coz i cant wait much longer for CD to be released.


 :peace:


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: ppbebe on January 20, 2005, 11:39:39 PM
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We will know sooner rather than later........

The soonest for the moment: Dismissal!

From blabbermouth

RICHARD FORTUS Has Not Quit GUNS N` ROSES ?Jan. 20, 2005

GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Richard Fortus has NOT quit the band and joined NINE INCH NAILS, according to Merck Mercuriadis, CEO of Sanctuary Group, which represents GN'R and a slew of other artists, including IRON MAIDEN, SLAYER and SLIPKNOT.

Contacted by an administrator at MyGNR.com, a GUNS N' ROSES discussion forum, regarding the rumor that surfaced earlier today about Fortus leaving to hook up with Trent Reznor and Co., Mercuriadis allegedly shot down the report, stating that there is "no truth to it."


http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=31795


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: norway on January 20, 2005, 11:57:35 PM
thank you pebe : ok: rumour oficially killed ?:)

merch: this does not qualify as an official stament regarding gunsnroses :hihi:
we wan't another type of statement, soon :peace: ya now what i'm sayin...

who's with me :beer:


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: echrisl on January 21, 2005, 12:44:26 AM
Does it really even matter anymore?  GNR is a band in name only right now, and probably for the forseeable future.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Will on January 21, 2005, 12:51:35 AM
It's false

It will be false when Axl himself says it's false.

Already mentioned in the thread, but I clearly remember the "BH incident".

The "management" also said once that Buckethead was "under contract". Guess what. Two months later Axl himself said in a press release Buckethead left the band. I don't believe whoever has to say except Axl, I really believe Axl is the only one in the know right now.

Either way anyway, the album has to be released soon. Even if it's a good gig for them, they're musicians, they can't stay forever "putting finishing touches" to a record. That being said, that NIN rumor really sounds fishy to me. The first one to join that band would be Robin, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: norway on January 21, 2005, 12:59:25 AM
It's false

It will be false when Axl himself says it's false.

why not richard?

 lol, the cd should really be released soon,  ::)
there's this rumour that all parts are havin a meeting soon that exites me  :o


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Continental Drift on January 21, 2005, 02:09:55 AM
Don't forget how Doug Goldstien came out and said reports of both Duff and Matt leaving the band were "untrue" back in the late 90's. Just because Sanctuary currently denies it means nothing.

That being said- hard to imagine Fortus in NIN. Doesn't seem like a logical fit unless Trent is really going in a rock direction.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Acquiesce on January 21, 2005, 02:18:03 AM
who cares? if they wanna leave let them leave, i dont want people in GNR that arent loyal anyway.


If Axl and GNR can survive the original members leaving, no replacement member leaving is gonna slow the group down any slower than things are.

GNR will continue with or without fortus.

Well, for me he hasn't survived without the original members but that is a whole different discussion. It's another black eye on the band if its true. Plus, it would be sad to see Richard go.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: SLCPUNK on January 21, 2005, 02:29:46 AM
I'd maybe believe it...

but him jumping ship to play with NIN....?

nah....can't believe that.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Mikkamakka on January 21, 2005, 02:32:12 AM
Don't forget how Doug Goldstien came out and said reports of both Duff and Matt leaving the band were "untrue" back in the late 90's. Just because Sanctuary currently denies it means nothing.

That being said- hard to imagine Fortus in NIN. Doesn't seem like a logical fit unless Trent is really going in a rock direction.

Trent now is really going to rock. But it doesn't mean that Richard joined NIN, it only means that NIN's new album will be more 'rock' than anything else they did before.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: D on January 21, 2005, 03:49:45 AM
Like i said in a different thread a week ago or so

any GNR member who is stupid enough to quit now with CD having to be as close to being released as ever would be the stupidest human being on the planet.

I agree acquiesce about the original band but if i can get over the original band, forgive and still support axl then any new member really doesnt bother me either way, cept for more delays.


it took me awhile to get the bad taste out of my mouth and accept that their is a new band with axl and its called GNR, so i honestly could give a shit who makes up this particular band
when it comes down to it, i love Axl and thats bout it! although buckethead was cool as fuck cause he was the "fuck you" to hardcore and casual fans just cause his playing was so impressive people reallycouldnt say shit.

these other dudes will be torn to fuckin shreds by hardcorist,media etc etc.

if u are gonna replace a legend u better be second to none and i just dont feel that with the new guitarists.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Cocaine__tongue on January 21, 2005, 03:51:47 AM
I hope it's not true, noy because I happen to love Mr. Fortus (I really don't care if it's him or Mr. Huge "Ono" :hihi:), but because something like a departure from a member would cause one more year in the making of the genius (no royalties for fortus, 'cause his parts would be rerecorded I guess).

Anyway, It looks like it's not true. Merck has now denied such information, according to blabbermouth :confused:.....

"Manager: RICHARD FORTUS Has Not Quit GUNS N' ROSES - Jan. 20, 2005 
 
GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Richard Fortus has NOT quit the band and joined NINE INCH NAILS, according to Merck Mercuriadis, CEO of Sanctuary Group, which represents GN'R and a slew of other artists, including IRON MAIDEN, SLAYER and SLIPKNOT.

Contacted by an administrator at MyGNR.com, a GUNS N' ROSES discussion forum, regarding the rumor that surfaced earlier today about Fortus leaving to hook up with Trent Reznor and Co., Mercuriadis allegedly shot down the report, stating that there is "no truth to it."".

source: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=31795

 




Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: SADIS on January 21, 2005, 07:47:49 AM
Well, maybe it's like this: the GNR camp is creating rumours themselves to get attention. They seem to be quit quick with denying this rumour, when normally we don't hear anything about rumours. Now with a denial press will start to write about this rumour. They need press to get back in the game again. Maybe the ball is already rolling, maybe they are creating all the rumours themselves, and deny them instantly. Which brings attention to who is in the band and who's not so that more people start to learn who's the new GNR....

or maybe that's just too far fetched.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Mateoson on January 21, 2005, 08:17:27 AM
Is it just me or have we heard a bunch of rumors in the last few days? I say if nothing else, at least this may force Axl to make another statement... I hope. Even though that last statement was complete b.s., at least it was something. It's kind of sad... the only time we hear anything from Axl is when something bad happens.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Nytunz on January 21, 2005, 08:48:20 AM
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/gnr_bassist_chinese_democracy_almost_done.html

huh! the rumours are spreading fast! Damn! This is just bullshit!


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: younggunner on January 21, 2005, 09:24:44 AM
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Is it just me or have we heard a bunch of rumors in the last few days?
Its because of the 2 most annoying and disgraceful gnr forums. MYGNR and that rumor board thing. I hate these 2 boards with a passion. I never seen a board with more rumors and rumblings and sources per day than these 2. Its pathetic. And the sad thing is people buy into it. I wish we could ban those 2 message boards from the gnr community. Mygnr is a waste of space. Nevermind the bullshit rumors and stuff from them, just read the topics and what th epeople have to say. No clue.

whatever/.....


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Philly Rose on January 21, 2005, 09:36:40 AM
Source: blabbermouth.net; says all.
Just have a wait till C.D. is officially released. IMO the wait will end soon.  :love:


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Scabbie on January 21, 2005, 09:38:10 AM
Quote
Is it just me or have we heard a bunch of rumors in the last few days?
Its because of the 2 most annoying and disgraceful gnr forums. MYGNR and that rumor board thing. I hate these 2 boards with a passion. I never seen a board with more rumors and rumblings and sources per day than these 2. Its pathetic. And the sad thing is people buy into it. I wish we could ban those 2 message boards from the gnr community. Mygnr is a waste of space. Nevermind the bullshit rumors and stuff from them, just read the topics and what th epeople have to say. No clue.

whatever/.....

Not that I'm a fan of those boards either, but to be fair didn't this rumour come from the NIN Hotline? I'd be interested to know how they picked up on this


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: ppbebe on January 21, 2005, 09:45:27 AM
True, Scabbie. Blabbermouth is not innocent either.

Who originally started this quite an original story @ The NIN Hotline?


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Izzy on January 21, 2005, 12:42:09 PM
Mysteron?

I don't care if he's in the band or not - its just if true it would mean the album is still miles off


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: nesquick on January 21, 2005, 12:52:29 PM
this BS rumour is extremely funny  :hihi:
Seeing such a great guitar player, and a rocker, like Fortus, joined such a mediocre band like NIN, and the total opposite of a Rock band (indus/gothic and all that crap), is ridiculous. Richard Fortus can play in better bands...in GN'R for exemple. That's where he is and he is the perfect guitarist for this band. End of story for me.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: jimmythegent on January 21, 2005, 05:38:34 PM
Like i said in a different thread a week ago or so

any GNR member who is stupid enough to quit now with CD having to be as close to being released as ever would be the stupidest human being on the planet.

I agree acquiesce about the original band but if i can get over the original band, forgive and still support axl then any new member really doesnt bother me either way, cept for more delays.


it took me awhile to get the bad taste out of my mouth and accept that their is a new band with axl and its called GNR, so i honestly could give a shit who makes up this particular band
when it comes down to it, i love Axl and thats bout it! although buckethead was cool as fuck cause he was the "fuck you" to hardcore and casual fans just cause his playing was so impressive people reallycouldnt say shit.

these other dudes will be torn to fuckin shreds by hardcorist,media etc etc.

if u are gonna replace a legend u better be second to none and i just dont feel that with the new guitarists.

Excellent point - i've thought the exact same thing.
Buckethead was the only member who could forge a new distinct direction, and like yoiu say, replacing a guitar god (Slash) youd better be able to bring something amazing to the table...


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Malcolm on January 21, 2005, 06:06:22 PM
GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Richard Fortus has NOT quit the band and joined NINE INCH NAILS, according to Merck Mercuriadis, CEO of Sanctuary Group, which represents GN'R and a slew of other artists, including IRON MAIDEN, SLAYER and SLIPKNOT.

Contacted by an administrator at MyGNR.com, a GUNS N' ROSES discussion forum, regarding the rumor that surfaced earlier today about Fortus leaving to hook up with Trent Reznor and Co., Mercuriadis allegedly shot down the report, stating that there is "no truth to it."

THEY REVEALED THERE TOURING LINEUP JAN.6

 According to a posting at The NIN Hotline, NINE INCH NAILS mainman Trent Reznor has spoken to Kerrang! magazine about his new band, confirming that Jeordie White (a.k.a. Twiggy Ramirez, A PERFECT CIRCLE, ex-MARILYN MANSON) and Jerome Dillon (drums) are on board, along with "newcomer guitarists Ralph Dieter and Alessandro Cortini."

The group's new CD, entitled "With Teeth", will contain 12 tracks, and is said to be "more song-orientated" than "The Fragile", which was described in the article as "instrumental soundtracks for movies that haven't been filmed yet." Said Trent, "I wanted to hone my songwriting skills with melodies and hooks." Trent also added that he ditched the original working title for the new album, "Bleedthrough", because "people were thinking about blood or a tampon commercial."

"With Teeth" is tentatively scheduled for an April/May release via Nothing/Interscope, according to the magazine, which is promising a longer interview and article in next week's issue.

In other news, a brand new posting at NIN's official web site indicates that the band "will be announcing the first round of U.S. tour dates in the near future. For access to ticket pre-sales, make sure you are registered with the NINE INCH NAILS mailing list."


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Dave_Rose on January 22, 2005, 08:53:07 AM
Well now that all done with as if Richard image fits in NIN I know someone is gonna what about BH in GN'R and Robin but you just cant imagine Richard in NIN Richard is a gunner : ok:


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Nytunz on January 22, 2005, 09:16:52 AM
 
Well now that all done with as if Richard image fits in NIN I know someone is gonna what about BH in GN'R and Robin but you just cant imagine Richard in NIN Richard is a gunner : ok:

Well, but we dont know who fits the new GNR because thayr a new band, with new music style, new image and so on...! Its not like the old hardrock GNR we that we all know


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Neon Mobil Horse on January 22, 2005, 01:42:10 PM
I really don't like this...

This whole thing just kind of sucks.  I really hope that it's a rumor.  And, I know that management has denied the rumor that Richard is leaving, but they were also denying the then rumor that Buckethead was leaving... then, the next thing we knew, Buckethead was definitely gone.

Rumors start somewhere.  They always can be traced back to something.  Most of the times, it seems that tracing the origins of rumors regaurding Guns N' Roses leads us all to some ass just trying to get friends on a message board by posting the "I've heard it!" or "This is the first single!" or, my personal favorite, "Axl recorded [insert name of Led Zeppelin song here] with [insert name of ANY musician] for [insert random blockbuster movie]'s soundtrack!!!" type bullshit.

Some rumors, though, actually do have something factual to support them.  Any time I hear of a rumor of a band member leaving, I get nervous.


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Casbah on January 23, 2005, 12:00:01 AM
from the ninhotline (http://www.theninhotline.net/news/index.php):

Finally, we've received official confirmation of who will really be filling the guitarist spot in the live NIN lineup: Aaron North, formerly of The Icarus Line. That's right, nobody from Guns 'N Roses will be performing with Nine Inch Nails this time around. You heard it here first!

Shame.. I would have preferred Fortus.. ;)


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: ppbebe on January 23, 2005, 09:15:33 AM
How many roads must a band walk down before you call?em a band? Gee! 

IMO. If Axl wanted a band just for his backup, he would have called it "Axl Rose and whateverband".
I expect the band that made Chinese Democracy to be the most chinese Democratic one ever.
The components are very important that If a member, if any, didn?t believe in the band and the goal he should leave. Gee ho!

However, to do odd works outside the band is completely another thing. That?s good to acquire new experience. Now that it?s not happening this time,  it's not long odds against this interval ending by the time NIN tours, maybe?


Title: Re: Richard Quits GNR? Joins NIN? (Rumor)
Post by: Pandora on January 23, 2005, 01:20:06 PM
Since the rumour has been proved to be untrue, this thread is getting locked.