Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Former GUNS N' ROSES rocker SLASH needed to hit the road again with new band VELVET REVOLVER, because he didn't make enough money from his time with the rock legends to last him into retirement

The guitarist has rubbished reports he formed Velvet Revolver with ex-Guns N' Roses bandmates DUFF McKAGAN and MATT SORUM purely for fun, claiming each "self-sabotaging" member was left close to broke at the end of their spell in the NOVEMBER RAIN band.

And Slash admits their ability to squander their wealth forced them into forming a new band.

The rock icon - who vows to handle his finances with more care in future - says, "People don't realise the technicalities of the rise and fall of Guns N' Roses. Obviously I have a house and a car and a wife and kids, but it's still a matter of keeping your s**t together to be able to do this.

"It's kind of a long story. Not a depressing story, but we're all a bunch of f**king very reckless, self-sabotaging guys. Having been through all the s**t that I've been through, I'm a lot smarter now than I have been.

"You'd have to be stupid to make the same f**king mistakes eight times!"

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/slash%20keeps%20rocking%20for%20the%20money



/jarmo

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He did?  Sounds like the author just took some vague quotes and invented this "story."

We all know that Slash is a liar, it was 'proven' many times, so if he said this, he must have lied.  :hihi:

This sounds pretty fishy to me, I have a hard time believing Slash formed Velvet Revolver because he was broke.


That sounds almost like a direct quote from Big Machine ...  ???

This definitely sounds a case of the writer taking things out of context. I notice there aren't any direct quotes from Slash claiming he is in it for the money. I remember in the past Slash said they didn't have as much money as people thought. Slash was more likely talking about that and how they are more responsible now. At least it sounds that way from his quotes.

I don't get it...

If they were that hard up for money I think the quick fix would of been to suck up to Axl and get Guns back together. I've see a couple of interviews where Slash said they were offered millions of dollars to get Guns back together and tour.

That would seem to be the  logical choice.

Rather than taking a chance on forming a new band and rolling the dice on a  "then" questionable singer.

This is a bullshit story, and we all know it...
When Slash said that he don't have as much money as people might think, it's more like, he don't have 300 million dollars in the bank, more like a coupple of 'em, and some thousands rollin' in every week or month..., so he have for bread and water, and he dont need to take a job at MacDonald's or whatever, but he is no Bill Gates either...   : ok:

when slash matt and duff talked to the norwegian newspaper "Dagbladet" before cb was out they talked about the fact that they needed cash, they also said that axl spent way to much money on excessive shit during the gn'r period and so on.... why would duff go to college if it was not to learn how to handle his cash. he took some economy or finance classes didn't he? why would slash call his son Cash :hihi:? i don't know, but i think i believe this interview...

Oh yeah, and VR also covered PF's Money.

I'm sorry but that would depend on Axl. the other guys would do it in a second because they love making music and going on the road

Yeah, I agree that the author is bullshitting us...

the press allways adds up a little more spice on the article just that it would be more shocking. just when Duff were saying that Axl didn't write GN'R lyrics, the press totally mis-quoted(I think that's a word...)duff...

anyway...i think slash haven't said just like it it is written on the article...

but slash also said several times that before they signed a record deal, there was some kind of bidding war, i think they went for the one who gave them the most $$$  :confused:

on the other hand, scott sank to a personal low when he altered his lyrics for the wallmart edition, he said he did it for the silver....

of course they did it for the cash, but of course they did it for fun aswell.... there's a combination there and i don't think one would live without the other...

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As opposed to going for the lowest?  ???


I dont think so...He altered the lyric to "Slither" for the radio version as a protest.  Other than that, the Wal-Mart version probably contains standard mute edits (I havent heard it ,so Im guessing), like most albums with profanity.  He certainly didnt have to alter any lyrics he didnt want to, and any he did were by choice.


Sounds like youve described just about every professional musician out there.  : ok:

1 - as opposed to going for someone cooler, smaller, better, friends, i don't know... they went for the one who gave them the most money....

2 - So scott didn't change they lyrics so that more radio stations would play Slither more often?? which equals more publicity which again equals more albums sold, more money etc??? He said he didn't like it, but did it for the silver anyways...

3 -  thats what they are, proffesional musicians, they make money of what they do hence the word professional... hopfully they have fun while doing it so that they're not doing it JUST for the money which would be wrong imo...

I don't think the story is so far off, thats just what i'm saying...

and the duff story, he had to actually take it back and change what he said, he was not quoted too badly i guess, he fucked up, he said something that was wrong, shit happens and he corrected himself...

They signed for RCA because this label guaranteed the biggest support and campaign for them. Maybe the paid more than the others would have, who knows, but the main factor was the backing. Slash didn't want to release an album like Snakepit 2.0 again without any promo, without even a decent booklet...

erose, I agree that money had a play in it because everyone wants to make the best living they possibly cpuld with the skills they have. That doesn't mean this story is on target. The writer was making it sound like that the sole reason they are involved with VR was to make money. I don't believe that at all and no where in Slash's quotes does it imply that.


I think they are in it for their love of playing but they don't want to make the same financial mistakes again. That's totally different from what the writer is portraying.

I second that  :beer:

What are you talking about?  Obviously they went with the one that suited them best in all aspects.  Theyve expressed nothing but praise for RCA, so they must be cool and friendly.  Youre really grasping at straws to form some kind of point, but its just not there.


You should stick with that..


And what if the one that gave them the most money also happened to be the best?  Scott Weiland was the most famous nominee for frontman - was he picked because he was famous or because he the best man for the job?  If hes both (and he is), then theres no question...Why would they settle for a label they didnt want?  So you wont think theyre simply in it for the money?  ::)


Instead of skimming through information to make poorly-formed points, you should really think about what were discussing.  When "Slither" first began getting airplay, there was apparently an issue with the word "poppies" being used.  Obviously, that problem didnt last long, but when it arose Scott chose to change the word to "nazis," as a reference to what he deemed an opressive decision.  If Scott didnt choose to alter the word, the song still would have been played - like every other song with questionable content - only with a mute over the word.  Understand?  The song would have been played regardless, it was only a matter of which form of editing Scott was most comfortable with, and he used it to make a statement.  Ultimately, it didnt seem to matter since "poppies" has been intact everytime Ive heard the song. 


Like I said, the song would have gotten played anyway, whether he chose to alter it or not. 

By the way, this just in!  Axl admits to doing his new album for the money!

"Money. You get what you play for and nothing?s free. Can you cover the cost of this venture and its financial potential that I am just supposed to walk away from and for what?" - Axl Rose

See how comments can be taken out of context?  : ok:

Whats up with this Contact Music thing anyway?  Theyve put out like 25 of these Slash stories in 2 hours.  :confused:

very well said, i totaly agree!

i mean they weren't forced into vr because of cash problems, thats just ridiculous. That said, money played a much bigger roll when the vr ball got rollin tho. But then again, you can't blame noone for milking theyr own cow tho eighter can you?

 : ok: :peace:

why would scott choose to change his lyrics tho and state that he did not like it at all, just a minor detail, fuck it..

and how can you be so sure that the package they got from RCA was the one they wanted the most?


 i totaly agree with you, and the line where the roporter talks about force is a typical fucked up reporter line.... the rest sounds resonable tho don't it?

In the interview VR did with Much More Music back in Feb or March Scott, Duff and Dave all said the reason they signed with RCA was b/c RCA gave them total control with their album.  They let the boys record their album on their terms. They didn't stop in and say maye you should do this, perhaps this would work better ect.  They let the guys do their thing and they gave RCA the album when they were done.

Slash also talked about how Mr. Cleve Davis himself meet with the group to get them to sign with RCA. As opposed to just dealing with some record rep.

For the third time:

He chose to alter the word "poppies" to "Nazis" in reference to the pressure he recieved from radio and MTV to censor the word.  He didnt like the fact that "poppies" was being censored, thats why he was unhappy with changing it, but in changing it, he made that same point.  I truly dont understand why thats hard to comprehend, and Im trying to be as clear as possible.


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Because thats the one they chose?



Not really, no.  What it comes down to is that the VR guys arent different from any other group of people doing music for a living.  Theyre passionate about what they do, and they also want to make the best living possible.  And singling them out and twisting information, such as their sigining with RCA, to make them out to be desperate for money or whatever is just silly.

So what is not reasonable then  ???, i didn't single out any of them to make vr or any of them look desperate for money, i never said that any of them were beeing desperate, i just stated that i believe the money has a huge saying in vr just like the bandmembers keep saying over and over and you agree so get a grip...

I think that when they desided to start the project it was more of a desperation to rock and get out there, not to make cash..  it's just fuckin' stupid tho, not to believe what slash says, he admits it for gods sake and has done several times, it's a part of the package when they are at that level sure... He (slash) has said it several times that he didn't have that much money left from his previousely work so what are you getting at? You emphasise what i say, but you don't disagree with me do you? which is cool... i'm not a fucking vr nor gn'r encyclopedia so i'm happy to be corrected at any point, thats why i'm here, to learn...

do you have a hard time believeing that slash doesn' have that much money or what?

I do think vr is different from other proffesional musicians tho. They have almost legend like status and everything going for them, they have all sold millions of records before and have been around the world several times, they have all had their drugs probs and so on, now they're clean and wants to secure theyr future no biggie.
everything they do can be defended, but i'm not so sure they haven't sold theyr ass for a few extra millions... it's not like they kept the fuck it fuck all attitude :hihi:

I believe that after GN'R Slash and Duff must have been broke, but I don't believe money was a factor in forming VR.

no way were slash and duff broke after GNR. or at least, they might have been "broke" as in, have to get a job. but i'm sure the fact that AFD sells a million a year worldwide or whatever it is on top of other GNR sales they make a steady income. i don't know if it would be enough to never work again, but i can't see why considering they are all credited as writers of the songs too. so whenever welcome to the jungle gets licensed to a GFA game, they get cheques too.

as for being in it for the money, what a piece of crap article!  :confused:

No where in the article does Slash get quoted for only rocking for the money.  The title of this thread is a little misleading.

If the members of GNR really need money how can you explain Izzy avoiding commercial success at every opportunity and Axl's lack of progress over the last 10 years.

Axl and Izzy earned the most of all the GN'R members cause of the songwriting credits. I don't think that Slash and Duff did it for the money, cause they earned alot aswell and they're not "big spenders".

On the other hand, Matt was broke when they formed VR... So I don't know about him. Matt said that he didn't end up with a whole lot of money after GN'R cause Axl did everthing he could to take it away from him after he was fired.

I think that Slash had at least as much money as Izzy thanks to TSI, guest appearances and first of all the UYI tours.

yeah i think izzy said no to alot of cash when he didn't want to tour anymore... that tour(uyi) paid very well i believe!

Boy the media really sucks sometimes. Even if they are in it for the money None of those quotes really says that. Yet the writer claims slash made some sort of admission and by the headline alot of really dumb people will believe it.