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Title: Maybe not even April....
Post by: SADIS on January 13, 2005, 06:39:26 AM
I just heard from a friend of mine that Lauryn Hill is releasing a new album in April. Who cares, I know. But, she is with a major label, and is a major artist and therefore needs major promotion. She already shot a video in September 2004. The album was finished in December (mixed and mastered).

So if she's already set a date for April how big are the chances for GNR to release an album in April? They need to build up a hype, they cannot just release it out of the blue. Seems as if April is also becoming slightly out of the question. Or we should here something "very soon". But I don't think there is a major announcement on it's way, becuase then there would be more rumours surfacing right now. What do you guys think?

For the bashers; I wish for nothing more then CD to see the light of the day. I'm on your side.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: D on January 13, 2005, 06:44:57 AM
honestly i think there are two times we will have a shot at chinese democracy

summer or next christmas

i dont think it will be march,april,may

if we get CD it will be between first week of June first week of august

or it will be in november cause u are right, if it were to be as early as april or may shit would have to start happening pretty soon.

i personally think we will get Chinese Democracy summer of 2006, thats my honest guess.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: SADIS on January 13, 2005, 06:50:38 AM
honestly i think there are two times we will have a shot at chinese democracy

summer or next christmas

i dont think it will be march,april,may

if we get CD it will be between first week of June first week of august

or it will be in november cause u are right, if it were to be as early as april or may shit would have to start happening pretty soon.

i personally think we will get Chinese Democracy summer of 2006, thats my honest guess.

Mmm, I don't know. Because most albums are released April/May and maybe June. But never July or August. Well atleast no biggie's. I really don't hope it's November because that's just taking way too long.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: D on January 13, 2005, 06:54:59 AM
definitely the sooner the better but i tell u what its almost got to the point where i can never imagine myself ever owning this CD. Its like i cant really ever picture a time of this being released.


I do know u have to deliver the finished product to the label like 3 months in advance before they release it.

so for it to make the may release it would have to be in the final processes of mixing and mastering already.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: leesixxrose on January 13, 2005, 07:10:01 AM
Just a question... Where did the April release rumor come from...Isnt it only because when you do a search on Google for guns n roses the official page has a release date??? We dont even know if thats true.....

I think honestly that April will come and go and the google page will stay the same.... 

you cant really hold anything that Tommy or Dizzy say as true anymore as they have been proven WRONG on many occasions....


I too belive that it wont be in April.. The promotion and release date would have been announced..

and since there is no new Single to hype the album release for a few months then id bet no Aprill



Like D said... June at the EARLIEST .... I personnaly think that we have seen the last of Mr Rose...

Yes his comeback had some good points and was shortlived but i think thats it folks....



Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: SADIS on January 13, 2005, 07:12:30 AM
definitely the sooner the better but i tell u what its almost got to the point where i can never imagine myself ever owning this CD. Its like i cant really ever picture a time of this being released.


I do know u have to deliver the finished product to the label like 3 months in advance before they release it.

so for it to make the may release it would have to be in the final processes of mixing and mastering already.


Yeah, I have the same thing. I even dreamt a few times that I had the record at home and it was amazing. Too bad I can't remember the tunes  :P  But even if there was a May release an announcement should/would be made in the next month. Because all the advance interviews should be done before the album gets released so that when the album is released all the mags are full of GNR.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: ppbebe on January 13, 2005, 07:33:28 AM
Just a question... Where did the April release rumor come from...Isnt it only because when you do a search on Google for guns n roses the official page has a release date???
I was wondering the same. April or not, I don't buy rumours n fools.
Yeah, maybe in March, November, or June.

Anyhow, it will be no longer taken as coming from out of the blue, after 7yrs+ anticipation.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: sandman on January 13, 2005, 07:55:45 AM
this is not your typical album. so IF it ever comes out, i'm not expecting the typical routine. basically, nothing would surprise me.

another thing to consider is that "chinese democracy" has been talked about in mags, radio and tv for a few years now. so it already has gotten some free promotion.



Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on January 13, 2005, 09:45:07 AM
definitely the sooner the better but i tell u what its almost got to the point where i can never imagine myself ever owning this CD. Its like i cant really ever picture a time of this being released.


I do know u have to deliver the finished product to the label like 3 months in advance before they release it.

so for it to make the may release it would have to be in the final processes of mixing and mastering already.


I can't agree more D.  It is to the point from listening to live bootlegs and what not I cant picture myself actually ever having the finished product. Much more I cant picture TV ads advertising it or new songs played on the radio. I REALLY cant image walking into the CD aisle and seeing it on the rack. I dont know how many stores I have checked to see if they had any GnR imports and looked though the whole GnR section.  It has become the holy grail to me. I keep searching and finding other bands and acts I like and other cds I enjoy on my voyage to new GnR.  I dont actually know what it would be like to have Chinese Democracry in my hand.  Afteral, once I listen to it then what? Do I wait 12 more years for new Material?


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Lesty on January 13, 2005, 09:50:58 AM
Not every album is promoted the same. If Lauryn Hill's new CD was completed last fall, the label could have just suggested that a Spring release would work better for their release
schedule, her personal schedule, touring schedule, etc....
I have no clue when the new GnR will hit, but once the label has the finished Cd in their hands, I don't think they'll hesitate to release it. It Could be April or this summer or never,
but just because many of us believe this is a "major release", doesn't mean it can only be released during two specific months out of the year.
And when you have a CD with this much mystery around it, you can't really assume anything. Just continue to wait.



Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: GypsySoul on January 13, 2005, 10:06:45 AM
"February is out of the question. Now what?"

LOL.... wait till march and post the same thing only change the month to april......
heeheeheee ... you couldn't wait for March?? :hihi:
(Sorry, I couldn't resist)


On topic:? We've been waiting like 11 years for this album, grasping at any bit of info or rumor.
How much more "promotion" could it possibly need?? :confused:


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: norway on January 13, 2005, 10:14:08 AM
Afteral, once I listen to it then what? Do I wait 12 more years for new Material?

just have fun :beer:

it will be like butteflys i stomach (exiting\thrillfull) to hold that disc in hands, yes :yes:


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: blues rocker on January 13, 2005, 10:34:07 AM
most artist's announce a release about 4 months before their album comes out...during that 4 months they usually do all the preparation, such as:  scheduling concerts, shooting videos, etc....so, it doesn't look so good for GnR, considering they haven't done any of that yet....no, april is not looking good either, unless they make an announcement and start moving within the next couple of weeks


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Scabbie on January 13, 2005, 11:02:03 AM
Fucking hell, what a depressing day, just look at the threads:

- Will Axl release CD before he dies?  :'(
- Maybe not even April?  : ok:
- Does Axl believe in the album?  ???

Lighten up people, I'm trying to keep positive here!


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Sweet on January 13, 2005, 11:15:12 AM
Do any of us really believe or have at least hopes that this so awaited new material will ever be released?

I've been a GNR Fan for about 15 years and been on the net for about 4 years, following every GNR 'step', at least the phew ones they've done, and it is always the same, disappointment after disappointment.

I keep being a GNR cos I think it was the greatest band I've ever heard, seen, etc. There is a saying around here that says something like of the good things we always have just a phew. Also cos i think Axl is the most talented, singer, composer and leading man there was, is and will ever be, but I honestly think that GNR and sadly Axl's work its over :(


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Wooody on January 13, 2005, 12:21:03 PM
where's sticky fingers now .  ;D

the ones who actually bought his bullshit must be feeling really stupid  :P


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: ppbebe on January 13, 2005, 12:34:58 PM
 :rofl:@ wooody.
Fucking hell, what a depressing day, just look at the threads:
- Will Axl release CD before he dies?  :'(
- Maybe not even April?  : ok:
- Does Axl believe in the album?  ???
Yep, Bloody hell!!
- Will Axl release CD before he dies?  :'(                  - One can release anything only while he or she is alive. ;)
- Maybe not even April?  : ok:                                   - Maybe not even April. : ok:
- Does Axl believe in the album?  ???                       -Ask him or you'd get sticky fingerish BSs. :P


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Gunnerguy on January 13, 2005, 12:38:58 PM
jeez i can't believe people are still talking about "when will chinese dem be released" like two years ago we had the EXACT same threads .. and before that too right back into the dark ages when michael Jackson was still black and Bill Clinton could get his cock sucked in peace.

2000 .... so you think chinese dem is gonna be released in April? ....... maybe i think more like June ..

2001 ... so you think chinese dem is gonna be released in April? .... no think tis slated for a november release

2002 ... hey guys guess what I just heard from a guy somewhere who knows a guy who met a cat who once talked to axl's bodyguard earl and he said that chinese dem is defo coming out in april or maybe may .. or possibly June with an outside shot that it might be november definately before christmas anyway

2003 ... If i interpret this riddle correctly which was definately written by Axl cause who else would have the spare time? the album is with out doubt coming out in April or if not April november

2003 .. err again? ::)... ahh! they played the MTV awards it's definately coming out in november !

2004 .. dudes I just heard a recording of the first single from chinese democracy!!!! it played on this unkown radio station in Nepal for like 10 seconds it sounded amazing!! The album must be getting a release date in April for sure!!

2005 ...
"honestly i think there are two times we will have a shot at chinese democracy
summer or next christmas
i dont think it will be march,april,may
if we get CD it will be between first week of June first week of august
or it will be in november cause u are right ........" or maybe when I shite gold


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: GNR_Green on January 13, 2005, 12:49:53 PM
It's true, this board is so full of ridiculous theory threads and rumours these days I tend to avoid it.  There are so many old school posters, like babyaxl and Dizzy who don't post anywhere on this site anymore, I think they've probably been fed so many rumours they've exploded, or maybe they're sitting in the dark corner of some rehab centre jibbering and cackling inanely.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Saul on January 13, 2005, 01:02:05 PM
I would venture a guess and say given the lack of any news here in the middle of january that any kind of release before mid-summer is out of the question.  :no:


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Acquiesce on January 13, 2005, 02:40:04 PM
I think April is doubtful but that's just because I'm not going to base my beliefs around some google search. CD will never be released if Axl and the record company are worried about other major releases. That's just silly.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: christina_rose on January 13, 2005, 03:26:53 PM
I keep thinking there is the possibility that I will walk in to the record store one day, walk over to the GNR section, and tada! there it is. Wishful thinking. But you never know. And I think April has just been the month to go with. I did a search awhile ago, and the sites I found said "April relase...." and it was for 2001, 2002. So I think April has just been the month to go by, or whatever. I often wonder what I would do when the album does come out, and I've listened to it a million times. I think as long as it comes out, however long it takes, and that was it, I'd be happy. It would suck, but I would be happy.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: RnT on January 13, 2005, 03:57:11 PM
sad, but you?re probably right...  :-[


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Mikkamakka on January 13, 2005, 05:29:16 PM
I wonder how can anyone believe that CD'll be released in April when there are no proofs? I would only believe in a press release, although no way I would be sure. I'll believe that CD will be released when I have it in my hands, go home and turn on my CD player. And in the next fuckin' minute my alarm clock makes me fuckin' frustrated.  :crying:


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Elrothiel on January 13, 2005, 06:51:15 PM
I'm just going to wait for it and listen to what I have. I can't be assed to argue about this anymore. I can't be assed to think "well, if there's not been an announcement, then it won't come out then!". I'm just going to sit, and wait. Sure, I'll get pissed off if it doesn't come out in 2005, because I do believe it'll come out this year, but that's not going to stop me waiting. I'll wait as long as it takes, and then when its released, I'll get in my car, drive down to the nearest CD store, go to the rack, pick it up, get a bit teary-eyed, walk up to the counter with it, buy it, walk out of the CD store with it, feel completely awed that I've bought something that I've been waiting for for fucking ever, get even more teary-eyed, get to car, immediately put it in CD player, drive home listening to it at full blast, continue listening, continue listening, while listening realize that there won't ever be a thread on the topic of "How long is Chinese Democracy going to take?" again, feel sense of relief, get more teary-eyed, take CD up to room, put it at the top of the CD holder thing, full blown tears, open laptop, go on this site, post a topic saying exactly how great CD is, go off Internet, go to boyfriend's house, continue weeping, drink cup of tea, watch the 10 hour long DVD of the "Making of Chinese Democracy", cry all through that, drink another cup of tea, get told by boyfriend to stop crying, attempt to stop crying, get asked reason for teariness, say "Because I'm so happy", get an understanding nod and a hug from boyfriend, get out sketch pad, draw a picture of myself holding ChiDem up to the sky and shouting out "FINALLY! ITS HERE! ITS HERE!! AND ITS GREAT!!", post picture on Deviant Art, realize that every other Gn'R fan on DA has posted a similar picture, write journal entry about it, email every world leader type person asking if that day be a holiday known as "Chinese Democracy Day", get replies from all saying "Thankyou for emailing us, we will consider your request", continue sending the email to them until they make that day "Chinese Democracy Day", get exasperated email saying "OK, fine! Today will be henceforth known as "Chinese Democracy Day"", every year celebrate CD Day in Christmas style, buying presents for all!!!

There, that is what I want to happen! Sorry I ran on a bit, I just kept thinking of the next thing I'd do! :D


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: damnthehaters on January 13, 2005, 07:26:33 PM
Brain doesn't even think he is in the band anymore.  Tommy, Dizzy, and Richard obviously don't know what the hell is going on.  And we have never even heard from Robin or Chris.  I see this whole thing dismantling.  Axl had a big vision, now that vision is slowely fading away.  I'm sorry, but after numerous indications that the album is done and that it may be coming out soon, I'm starting to lose faith.  The word "soon" to me doesn't meen 3 to 4 years.  I honestly believe that this band had intentions on releasing the album a couple of different times over the past year or two, and for some reason or another, it hasn't happened.  I think it might be over.   


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: jgfnsr on January 14, 2005, 01:48:01 AM
Brain doesn't even think he is in the band anymore.? Tommy, Dizzy, and Richard obviously don't know what the hell is going on.? And we have never even heard from Robin or Chris.? I see this whole thing dismantling.? Axl had a big vision, now that vision is slowely fading away.? I'm sorry, but after numerous indications that the album is done and that it may be coming out soon, I'm starting to lose faith.? The word "soon" to me doesn't meen 3 to 4 years.? I honestly believe that this band had intentions on releasing the album a couple of different times over the past year or two, and for some reason or another, it hasn't happened.? I think it might be over.? ?

The new band fading away (admittedly before it really even started) isn't the problem in my opinion.

I always saw each member and whatever talents they had as a "tools" that Axl has used to make the new album.

And that's what is most important.  The new album...


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Gordi on January 15, 2005, 12:00:31 AM
I remember reading here once that CD was very close to being released and there were posters in the record stores etc. But at the last moment it was cancelled... Now there wasn't any promo around that time was there? It just kinda happened. That's what I think is going to happenif CD gets released.
So to be honest, when it happens is anyone's guess... :-\


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on January 15, 2005, 12:21:55 AM
ITS NOT COMING IN APRIL.  Axl and Geffen need this cd to sell good so they dont become the biggest joke in record history.  GnR, like it or not, is no longer the biggest band in the world.  They will have to shoot a video, plan tv appearences, and a huge promotional effort (in my opinion) that is close to what U2 did for their last album.  They did commercials for there songs, played SNL, made a deal with ipod, Streamed their album on MTV/VH1. Many tv appearences. This is the same stuff GnR will have to do and that will take more then just a few weeks.


CD will not be out in April or May.   Geffen will want to market this thing like crazy to make money on it after all they have invested into it.


It wont be out in April, May, or June, they are all too close

Mark Cowbell's words.


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: V on January 15, 2005, 01:48:57 AM
jeez i can't believe people are still talking about "when will chinese dem be released" like two years ago we had the EXACT same threads .. and before that too right back into the dark ages when michael Jackson was still black and Bill Clinton could get his cock sucked in peace.

2000 .... so you think chinese dem is gonna be released in April? ....... maybe i think more like June ..

2001 ... so you think chinese dem is gonna be released in April? .... no think tis slated for a november release

2002 ... hey guys guess what I just heard from a guy somewhere who knows a guy who met a cat who once talked to axl's bodyguard earl and he said that chinese dem is defo coming out in april or maybe may .. or possibly June with an outside shot that it might be november definately before christmas anyway

2003 ... If i interpret this riddle correctly which was definately written by Axl cause who else would have the spare time? the album is with out doubt coming out in April or if not April november

2003 .. err again  ::)... ahh! they played the MTV awards it's definately coming out in november !

2004 .. dudes I just heard a recording of the first single from chinese democracy!!!! it played on this unkown radio station in Nepal for like 10 seconds it sounded amazing!! The album must be getting a release date in April for sure!!

2005 ...
"honestly i think there are two times we will have a shot at chinese democracy
summer or next christmas
i dont think it will be march,april,may
if we get CD it will be between first week of June first week of august
or it will be in november cause u are right ........" or maybe when I shite gold


LOL!!!!!!

That was, like, the funiest post I've EVER read, or, I mean, like, close to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on January 15, 2005, 02:12:14 AM
Lauryn Hill would have no effect whatsoever on the album release. There might be 11 people in America that would buy both albums...


Title: Re: Maybe not even April....
Post by: jabba2 on January 15, 2005, 03:28:53 PM
If your looking for clues to the album release, you need to see some Gnr/Axl activity first. Until that happens dont expect the imminent release of CD. They wont release it while Axl continues to sit in his mansion. Axl will need to show hes more active like as if hes actually in a rock band.