Here Today... Gone To Hell!

First of all, I did not start this rumor. I want to make that perfectly clear because I don't feel like getting my ass flamed for spreading shit. This is simply a fucked up IM that I received earlier on, and I figured that I'd share in just in case it came true.

(This convo took place on AOL, for the record, but the screename is registered with AIM.)

 WAR0262 [10:23 PM]:  Chinese Democracy release date 04.12.05

02.06.05 stay tuned to football
 WAR0262 [10:24 PM]:   ;)


Ok, so let's see what we have here:

-The screename is WAR0262 (W. Axl Rose, February 2, 1962): alright, could just be an obsessed fan with too much time on his/her hands.

-April 12 is a Tuesday..I checked.

- 2.6.05: Stay tuned to football. Ok, so, we have to watch the Superbowl to find this out.

-The person is more than likely American, since they used the American date system (month/day/year)

I do find it funny/ironic that Paul McCartney is doing the halftime show this year. I don't think its totally out of the question (unlikely, but not improbable) that Axl would show up and duet with Paul on "Live and Let Die".

Hell, what better way to get publicity for the album than to drop the release date during the most watched sports game of the year?

I planned on watching it anyway, and now I have even more incentive to.

-Jeff

If this is true, that would be a great way to reach a huge audience.? However, it sounds too good to be true.? :-[

Trust me - I plan on grilling the dude the next time that I see him on.

And of course, I'll relay any info to the board!  : ok:


-Jeff

Just for shits and giggles, I tried to bring up the AOL profile of this screenname...none available.

someone else got a pm from axlrose (sn) about release date and then he signed off... fun :lmao:

what a great marketing campaign for Chinese Democracy. AOL spamming. :-\

Is there anything in your AIM or AOL profile about GNR? If so maybe this person just searched for people with GNR stuff in their profiles to mess around...

Nevermind. There's an "ongoing investigation" into this. There's actually a lot behind this, but you'll find it if you look hard enough...

Ok, now I'm confused... so this has happened previously as well?

Not an IM per se, but there have been some weird ongoings. Consider this. Axl's birthday is Feb. 6th. Feb. 6th is the day of the Super Bowl. The half-time performer that night is Paul McCartney.

Live and Let Die  :peace:

I've noticed that you're one of the few around the gnr boards who seems to have a little faith when it comes to these rumors, which is good. keep the faith man, I know I am.

anyway, I can totally see that super bowl thing happening. The only thing I can see stopping it from happening would be the NFL's possible conservative approach to picking the music guests... but other than that, I wouldn't be totally surprised if it happened. Let's hope  :peace:

I don't know either way, but some sort of announcement wouldn't necessarily have to come in the form of a performance...

I truly believe that this is it.? There is absolutely no way that they can get better promotion than this.? I honestly believe that we will be listening to a single from Chinese Democracy a month from now, and in 3 months we will be holding it in our hands.? We've been told that CD is done and would hopefully be mastered by November and current members have essentially confirmed that it is done and waiting.? The fact that Paul McCartney is playing as well as the Superbowl falling on Axl's birthday is too much of a perfect chance to pass by.? Axl's been waiting for the perfect time to release CD and now that we know it's done it's finally going to come.? Everything is falling into place and I don't see how anyone can deny that there is a great chance of this happening.? Is there a possibility that this won't happen, absolutely, but we know that CD is finished and April is the only rumored release date we've heard so far with a completed Chinese Democracy.? Nevermind that this rumor was started by an IM on AOL, that is besides the point.? What the world needs now is W. Axl Rose and on February 6, 2005 the world is going to get what they need.? : ok: :smoking:


Added :   I looked to see where Dizzy and Tommy would be touring at on the 6th.  Coincidently, Tommy is going to be in North Carolina the day before the Superbowl (Remember the Superbowl is in Jacksonville).  Dizzy does have a concert scheduled on the 6th in Providence, RI but the location is still TBA.  Regarding Dizzy, if GN'R is going to play, since he doesn't have a confirmed location it wouldn't be difficult to get from Conneticut on the 5th to Jacksonville on the 6th.  This assumes that Axl would even need/desire to have the rest of the band present.  Personally I would place my money that he does a duet with McCartney utilizing whatever performers McCartney has.  I just sure hope that Duff, Slash and Matt are watching the half-time show.  :rofl:

Wow we got ourselves our own little fuckin conspiracy going ?: ok:

I can't say I dont have a little hope in the ol' 6, 6, Mcartney, Live & Let Die deal.

Can someone get some projected singles McCartney could be expected to sing? Is he promoting an album? I don't think this "They're afraid of Axl Rose's un-reliability" thing is THAT much of a deal. I mean he'd have to be litteraly fucking INSANE to flake out on a Super Bowl performance. And unless they scheduled Bono, I don't think they have much that would entertain the "guys" who typically watch football.

Well, to be fair, the Half Time show is never about the guys that watch football. I mean, it's become common practice to get Britney Spears, N*Sync, Shania Twain, etc. With that being said, McCartney is a step up, seeing as he's a real musician. If I'm not mistaken, he is working on a new album, but it won't be out for a while, SB would be way to early for promotion. I dunno. I also think people are overstating this whole "Axl is unreliable" thing. If the pressures on, Axl will deliver. He would know not to drop an F-bomb and I don't think he'd pull his dick out  :hihi: Anything is possible. I'm one who believes that things happen for a reason, and that particular day is looking way too sexy to just be ignored. I'm not trying to start any conspiracies or anything, though. I'm just a fan...

Haha, whatever man!

 :rofl:

Elton John will come out and the end and they'll sing Benny and the Jets too!  :rofl:

i dunno, isn't some in the band busy,
 it's only americans who will see that of the general public i think.... hope it happens though :beer:

Maybe it's just Axl ???The rest of the band doesnt have to be the for a little duet or some shit  :beer: Just my guess

Since no one seems to be reading the added portion of my post above, I'll post it here.

I looked to see where Dizzy and Tommy would be touring at on the 6th.  Coincidently, Tommy is going to be in North Carolina the day before the Superbowl (Remember the Superbowl is in Jacksonville).  Dizzy does have a concert scheduled on the 6th in Providence, RI but the location is still TBA.  Regarding Dizzy, if GN'R is going to play, since he doesn't have a confirmed location it wouldn't be difficult to get from Conneticut on the 5th to Jacksonville on the 6th.  This assumes that Axl would even need/desire to have the rest of the band present.  Personally I would place my money that he does a duet with McCartney utilizing whatever performers McCartney has.  I just sure hope that Duff, Slash and Matt are watching the half-time show.   :rofl:

then ate the end axl shouts chinese democracy -date- ?:D

wishful thinkin ::)

maybe they could have a commercial during the super bowl ???

A commercial sounds about right?  : ok:


?all this talk of McCartney, at a Super Bowl singing. I guess Axl will just happen to be in the audience, he?ll jump up on stage and duet. Hmmm, what song? Oh I know, Live and let Die, then they?ll be an announcement that McCartney with the new GN?R guitarist  ;D

I?m joking here  ;)

Fuck it eh why not!!! Sounds a pretty credible rumour to me!! When this rumour was first mentioned months ago I thought 'oh here we go again' but it seems to be rumbling on still so why not! Seems like a perfect time to come back and maybe announce something with a commercial or something. Fuck Paul McCartney and Axl on stage together! Fantastic! I think I'll be tuning into my first ever game of American Football this Feb!!

No way after last years fiasco they are going to put someone like Axl on stage in any capacity, which is why they sought out someone very safe like Mcartney......not going to happen.

Secondly, a commercial is absolutely not happening given a 30 second spot goes for around 2.5 million dollars, and given what they have already pumped into this project they won't spend that kind of coin on 1 30 second spot when 2.5 mil is often bigger than most promoting budgets in their totality. No way the record company spends that all in one spot, no matter how many people would see it, it still won't guarantee sales and that is just too big a risk financially.

We can all keep dreaming...go ahead and convince yourselves its plausible, but on February 7th it won't have happened and people will be a gumpy. Just get the thought process out of your heads now and save the aggravation.

atleast if axl gets his tits out there won't be as big a commotion.

Would be nice, but, as usual, i'll not hold me breath.

So, could you please decide which day is Axl's birthday???Puhleese

I read on rumourboard 2 that in the Kerrang magazine it says that Chinese Democracy will be released in Spring 2005.  Now for Axl doing something stupid at the Superbowl like dropping the F word or pulling his dick out.  COME ON!!!!!!  Dropping the F word I totally can see him do that.  But showing his dick???  I saw a few posts like that in this forum.  I don't know but I have never heard anything about Axl being an exhibtionist.  He ain't that screwed up in the head.(I hope)  But personnaly the Super Bowl thing is just wishful thinking from the fans.  I believe that the release date will come when you least expect it and where you would least expect it to be announced.  In the meantime all we have are rumours.

Kerrang never said it will be released in spring, just to hope for a release about then. Nothing more.

As for him whipping his cock out, i don't really feel like explaining why i find that absurd.

Too far fetched.........Axl isn't dueting with McCartney.  And I highly doubt they'll pop 3-4 million for a 30 second Chinese Democracy commercial to promote a cd.

well, i give this rumour some credit. and if the plan is a LALD duet, great. but if axl chickens out or whatsoever, mccartney can still perferm alone without a problem. i think so they kill two birds with one stone. right?

and this whole dick-showing thing. didn't someone just post it's NOT like he'd put his dick out???

Lostrose.  That's what I am saying that he wouldn't pull it out.  I too think this is really absurd.  And if he does go I for one think Axl is a professional and would act like one.  After the famous nipplegate of last year I don't think anyone wants bad publicity from the Super Bowl.

maybe at the end of the show george harrison will jam and be announced as the new gnr guitarist

if Only he doesn?t wear some weird bigstar nipple rings.
And wasn?t it supposed to be taken as a joke?

I suppose the IM in question was also a joke but not very funny one.

 :hihi: :hihi:

I think you all should apply to be Axl's promoters! ?Every year you have lists of fantastic ideas of how he can reappear! ?: ok:

I don't think george harrison's death is a laughing matter, and i think it pretty sick to make a joke or laugh about it.

Chill out - I didn't mean it that way.  I was actually thinking of Paul and not the fact that George is dead.  ::)

Not all of the board's ideas were around death...

I for one wouldn't mind if Axl had a "wardrobe malfunction"... but that's just me. 

Good point!  It's not just you.  ;) ;D

 :hihi: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

that made my day

It's not very obvious that you were laughing at the idea of paul when the only person mentioned in the quote was paul. In fact the exact opposite seems apparent.

nice, two horny gnr-fans! ;)

thinkin the same... ::)

If it's his birthday and paul, it might be :D

Nothing gnr related will happen at the superbowl.

how can you post that without backing it up? is it what you believe or what? how do you know since you state it as a fact? it's not like i believe the original rumour, but hey posts like the one you just made are meaningless, even when they come from you....

Axl will not be on the superbowl halftime show.  There isn't even a slight chance of it happening.

Put down the crack pipe and get over it.

gee another reason to read the gnr section

Another major event, another magical rumor emerges...come on, folks

LET'S REVIEW THE POSSIBILITIES:

Someone who takes 30 seconds to sign up a new screen name on AIM and message a gullible fan.

OR

Axl Rose logs online and messages a random fan.

THIS IS MIND BOGGLING!

Kahz -

I never said that I believed any of this for a second. I just thought it was a little fucked up that this IM came out of nowhere, especially given the screename, which you think would have been taken a LONG time ago by a rabid Gunner. I thought that someone on the board may have gotten something out of it, and some people have.

Bottom line is, if you didn't put any stock in the rumor, if you didn't believe it, then you shouldn't have fucking read it in the first place. Don't you dare fucking call me gullible though for passing info on to the board. Now, go to the back of the room and pour yourself a nice glass of shut the fuck up.  : ok:

-Jeff

by the way, what a fuck is AIM ?

AOL Instant Messenger

By the way, who said that this was Axl messaging him?

how it works?
is like MSN? people added him and told him that?

 May I join you for this one ?  :P  :love:

12th of April is my birthday!  I don't even dare to dream... :)

Burning,
   Not for nothing, but your aol handle is posted in each and every one of your posts on this board.  Now, I have no idea if WAR is feeding you a line of BS or not, but, given the ease in traking down your aol handle HERE.....I gotta tell ya.....I'm leaning toward it being a huge heaping helping of BS.

Just MHO.

I got the same message too yesterday!.....I only speak to a few people from these boards online....I had someone run a check to see if they matched the people that I talk to from the boards and it wasnt them........

So who knows

ok that cleared things up, it must be the crack pipe then  : ok:

but seriousely,

whats the point of posting meaningless shit like the original guote? if it's your opinion just add imo or something... especially from a guy who posts here more than most and i think alot of people read this guy's post and many times trust them and learn from them... it kind of lower the credibility to read shit like that, at least thats what i feel...

and i don't think it(the credibility) will come back when gn'r doesn't do the superbowl...

How would I know if I believed a rumor or not if I didn't read it?

*runs to sign onto AIM*? :hihi:

what was the screen name of the person that IM'd you yg?

and a question to the original poster - they signed right off after?  did you IM anything back to them?  etc.

yeah like Axl is really gonna IM ppl to give details instead of a press release.

so it is your guess, cool.

Its not my guess, its common sense.  For the last 3 years we have had this SB rumor. It didnt happen the last two years, its not gonna happen this  year.

fine, i don't believe in it either, but there are many in here that do so i guess commen sense isn't so common after all. people haven't been here for three years so they don't know that this shit turns up every fucking time it's a superbowl or whatever...

my point, like i tried to explain a few posts back when i quoted takeshi, is that when people read your post, they might think you know something, but obviousely you don't so why act like you do and state it as a fact? you do have a certain status in here so why not keep it up?...

why not add what you said in your last post to your first? which would lead to less confusion and less believers in this thread and less belevers next time the rumor pops up?.. if your going to post in a BS thread why add more BS to it instead of just adding what you believe and maybe showing a view from a guy that has actually been here for three years?

peace

It would be the funniest thing ever if the record label paid $2.5 million for a Super Bowl ad to give the release date for Chinese Democracy.  We all know that Axl would still delay the release date and make it the biggest waste of $2.5 million in history.

Well, I don't think the record company would announce a release date unless the album had been turned into them.  That way, they could operate from there on in a timeframe they feel comfortable with.

Ali

Eva -

Actually, I was away from the computer when the message came up, so my away message actually responded. I came back and noticed that a fucked up screename had contacted me. So, I opened it up and this person left me the same message twice...once at about 8:45 and later at about 10:45 or so.

Sooo...

Yeah, it was probably just someone from one of the boards trying to spread shit, but hey, you never know..I just thought it was worth posting to the board to get some responses to it.   :yes:

-Jeff

ah i see
thanks for the reply

YoungGunner... what was the screen name that IM'd you?

wow, what is the point of discussing this? I can't believe that there are people here actually getting their hopes up. Of course now since this thread popped up and all of our AIMs are exposed, the myth can be further propagated.

Cheers

Honestly, how can people believe this?

Get your minds straight...

this is a funny thread..... there is going to be no sign of Axl at the super bowl...

well... he did attend the superbowl of 03 ;D

wasn't there a rumour about a gnr single being released on I-tunes?
well as of july of last year appled hired an agency to start working on an Itunes ad for this year's superbowl
(link: http://www.macnn.com/news/25624

if GN'R were featured in their Itunes commercial it would not cost the GN'R camp 2.5 million....
just a thought
which could be kept in mind anyway because it is entirely possible for GN'R to obtain advertising/exposure through promotion partnership with larger corporations

and why is this being disucssed..> for fun  :P

2nafish -   maybe at the end george harrison can come out and jam and then be the new gnr guitarist.


maybe at the end hendrix can come out and jam.

maybe at the end dimebag can come out

maybe at the end john lennon can come out... oh sorry my bad... i forgot he's dead.  Now im just being stupid.

relax.... it was a fucking joke.  life and death isnt that serious.   your pants are too tight.  the 80's are over.

Because there's nothing else to talk about?

was thinkin the same :P good one

something at least has to happen soon... of not that nessesarly

He hasn?t ever IM'd me. He doesn?t like me. boohoo-hoo!!!  :crying:

No way I believe the Ass IM but I think it's very possible he might be attending the super bowl again on his bday.
  :yes:

It's quite a funny thread, but how can someone possibly believe this?. I'm not saying the superbowl thing is imposible, actually I think it could happen. But someone really thinks axl will start sending an IM giving away this info?.

Maybe in the next IM you can ask him what the song list will be and if he will come to play to spain.  :hihi:

In other terms, can someone get access to a recent article in which a chef discusses about cooking for famous people??? (including W.A.R. and S. Seymour, even though it seems Axl didn't attend the dinner in his own house :no:)  I read about it in google news but couldn't read the article (only subscription). maybe someone can find it somewhere else?

Chef has hobnobbed with rich, famous
January 5, 2005

Chef Andreas Kisler rubbed shoulders with many celebrities during his coast-to-coast career:

Elizabeth Taylor at Vienna 79 in New York:

"I got my first celebrity kiss ever from Elizabeth Taylor. I cooked her a trout with an almond sauce, which is not trout almondine as we know it. I made it a little bit different and she loved it. She came back and she asked for that dish and we didn't have it, but I got it anyway. I got the fish quickly. And she walked in the kitchen and kissed me on the lip. And, for me, it was like, 'Wow!' "

Sidney Poitier at Chasen's restaurant in Beverly Hills: "The most gracious and nicest man I ever met was Sidney Poitier. I shook his hand and spoke to him. Not only that, but he was the only celebrity who ever stood up instead of just sitting. It meant a lot to see somebody actually standing up and making that offer. And he doesn't have to. I mean, he is Sidney Poitier."

Frank Sinatra at the Beau Rivage in California: "He's Italian, right? He was sitting on the patio out there. He was obviously intoxicated. He got a pasta that one of my guys made. He didn't like the pasta and he took (it) and threw it on the floor and got up and walked into the kitchen and screamed, 'Who cooked this food! Who cooked this food!' I said, 'Sir, may I help you?' And he said, 'Did you cook this food?' I said, 'Well, yes, I did.' (He said,) 'I don't like your cooking at all.' And I said, 'Well, then, I don't like your music.' He was about to whale at me but his manager came back and my residuals for the restaurant (the one Kisler wanted to open one day) didn't happen. These magazines, National Enquirer and stuff like that, came by and interviewed me and it was a little bit of a story for a while. It didn't hurt my job at all."

Axl Rose: "I actually cooked in his house. He wanted to have a Christmas party with his then-wife, Stephanie Seymour. He didn't show up. After that party they got divorced and had a lawsuit against each other. So I got involved in that without even wanting to be. They used me to give my deposition. I didn't see anything. I was just cooking."

-- Michael Donahue: 529-2797

Thanks!!! :beer:.

Axl and Seymour married??  :hihi:

yeah and all you can wait to watch the superbowl and keep beliving that axl is going to show up and tell you all when Chinese Democracy is going to be released!!!!

Everytime there is a major TV event or awards show or movie release everyone thinks that axl rose is going to show up and make ur dreams come true that a new Guns n Roses album is coming out "soon"

its comical actually... its like that old kids book "wheres waldo" you fucking look at a picture for a really long time and hope to spot some mysterious little man....

...except Waldo was usually there, and there have been infinitely more sightings of him than Axl in the last 2 years  :hihi:

Exactly!!!  lol...

I'm not saying he is gonna show but I would say it has a better chance then the last three rumored super bowls.  #1. Paul McCartney wasnt at any of theses super bowls and he is the entertainment this time round.  #2. CD is prob as close to being finished as it ever has and #3. With RoBIN having nothing to do with NIN its a very positive sign that something is about to happen. I dont think Mr. FINCK wants to sit around for another two years he could of had the NIN position so he didnt pass it up for nothing.
20 EYES IN MY HEAD THERE ALL THE SAME If Glenn can get back with DOyle then CD has a good chance of being released.  DIE DIE FIENDS :rant:

 : ok: with you, i read through some posts by posters in this thread, and some are def. just post shit about gnr and their fans, sad people :no:

the im thing is maybe "far" but why is it so impossible that axl attends or shows at superbowl?

Perhaps they have blissfully no idea of the superbowl and the attendances.  :-\

Welcome to the club! :rant:

Axl Rose: "I actually cooked in his house. He wanted to have a Christmas party with his then-wife, Stephanie Seymour. He didn't show up. After that party they got divorced and had a lawsuit against each other. So I got involved in that without even wanting to be. They used me to give my deposition. I didn't see anything. I was just cooking."


"I didn't see anything...."
But hell, he WAS in the kitchen, man!

Andreas Kisser? Come on, boy.   :smoking:

whats a deposition in a law suit?

Yes, Axl was at the super bowl a couple of years ago, but that might have had more to do with the Raiders being in it than anything else. Maybe not, but he was wearing that jersey for a while. On a side topic, you know how many times they play the beginning licks of WTTJ during a game. I hear it all the time, usually at kickoffs or when they really want to pump the crowd up. I wonder, did they play it at all that game?

yeah... football was on all weekend at my house and i heard it quite a bit - and that was playoffs
so i suppose chances are it'll be played at some point during the superbowl

nuthin' like the LIVE version though, eh?  ;D

It would be a perfect stage to get shit going the right fkn way? :yes:

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Can't believe this thread is 5 pages and going...

I think it will happen. After performing several songs paul will introduce Live and Let Die. Just as he is about to sing Axl will Float across the stage to him. The stadium will erupt! A five,ten,twenty minute standing ovation will take place. The football players to overcome with emotion forfeit the game declaring W.Axl Rose the only champion. Slash and Duff take to the stage and annouce the break up on VR, Liberals and conseratives world wide embrace. And Axl utters those three little words you love to here...... IT'S COMING SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol...

Its sooo true.. its sooo amusing the way some people will watch the superbowl and think its just a big cover to have a guns n roses concert....  but it is all just a big secret and they will be suprised!!!!

Do you REALLY for one minute think that the NFL would let Axl Rose play at the half time??   but its ok... Watch the superbowl and pray real hard that a guns n roses concert is going to break out at the halftime...

But hey that got an IM from an axl on AOL so its a sign!!!

Chinese Democracy is coming soon!!!!!

All of the "Gnr to surprise appear here" rumors are ridiculous, but this one takes the cake.
Why on earth would Paul McCartney want Axl Rose to share the stage with him at
the Super Bowl? I'm not a big beatles fan, (and I personally think McCartney doing
the super bowl is a safe, knee jerk reaction from last years J. Jackson thing), but
the NFL and the promoters of this event are advertising it as Paul McCartney,
and I can't think of anything more strange than having Axl appear (and/or all of Guns N Roses). It's obviously not even a rock n roll themed halftime show.
A lot of us on this board assume that the entire world thinks Axl has a lot more "celebrity appeal" than he actually does, and that any huge event would be a perfect platform for
GnR to re-emerge. When you're pretty much out of the public eye for 10 years (sans a short tour and some legal and psychosis issues) he's not exactly a media darling right now,
and I hardly think the NFL would pursue GnR as a part of this performance.
I would personally love to GnR to perform anywhere, including the SuperBowl, but
let's please use some common sense and stop trying to get peoples hopes up.

guys I hate to be negative, but weve had this same rumour how many years running and it never turns out, and i dont exoect anything diffrent this year...  all though I would love to be wrong

dude its true we've been waiting for how long, but all we do is keep on hopin'. cides that would be a wicked way to kickstart it.













P.S. Go Pats Go!

that's true.. that WOULD be a kickass way to kickstart it but like you said, all we can do is keep on hoping..


I believe that this rumour is possible but the source (the strange IM) is just plain crap..

I think that is what we are ALL saying ;)