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Title: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: SADIS on January 05, 2005, 04:42:16 AM
Well it's now pretty obvious that February won't be the month CD will see the light of day. Otherwise we would have heard something by now. Maybe an announcement will be made, but that's it. Even GNR-online now says April instead of February.

What's going on? First hints at November, then February, now it's April. And even the bandmembers don't seem to have a clue. I'm really starting to wonder what's holding them up. Could it be the band-name afterall? That Slash and Duff are holding it back? Or that the new guitarist has to be found first? Or maybe the album isn't even finished? Axl died?

I still think that GNR being so silent these days means there are things to come, but when? And what is going to come? What do you guys think? We gotta figure it out this time for real. We should start a petition for Axl to make a statement, break into the studio, bomb the record company with e-mail phone calls etc. untill they get so sick of it that they force Axl to make a statement. We should do something!


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: leesixxrose on January 05, 2005, 04:52:33 AM
"February is out of the question. Now what?"

LOL.... wait till march and post the same thing only change the month to april......





Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on January 05, 2005, 04:55:17 AM
i dunno ... but they must have big problems to have such delays and silence ..... they still can tour again without an album ...


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: jellyhead on January 05, 2005, 05:54:52 AM
they still can tour again without an album ...

That would be an even more pointless exercise than the 2002 tour. 


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Scabbie on January 05, 2005, 06:05:35 AM
Well, I guess the next opportunity for some kind of information would be either Dizzy or Tommy's tour, starting later this month. I think it would be good for some kind of statement to be made before then, so that we don't have to rely or even hassle them for information they may not be privy to.

I think you are right, there must be some sticking point, but the fact that none of the band members have 'quit', and the record company hasn't stopped the project or dumped the band shows that everyone who appears to be invlolved still has faith in Chinese Democracy. I also think the fact we haven't heard much from Tommy since November is a good sign.

Maybe there is a legal or commercial reason for the delay. However I truly believe that where there's a will there's a way and if the record company believed in both the album and the vision, they wouldn't let this get in the way of a release. After all, as GH showed, the GNR phenonema must still be one of their biggest (and maybe most reliable) assets.

Personally, I believe either they are waiting patiently for the right moment, all of the recording, marketing, publicity & tour arrangements to be in place, or Axl is off on one somewhere in the desert.






Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Wooody on January 05, 2005, 07:35:55 AM
let's take this example:
"QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE have apparently selected "Little Sister" as the first single off their fourth album, "Lullabies To Paralyze", due on March 22 via Interscope. The song is scheduled to go for radio adds on January 24." If I remember correctly the release date was given december 23.

release date = december 23
single= january 24
album= march 22

Singles  usually arrive 2 months in advance isnt it true ? so:

release date = january 23
single= february 22
Chinese democracy should be released= april 24



Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: pilferk on January 05, 2005, 08:31:17 AM
Remember all, Merck is on vacation til around the 14th of January.  I agree, Feb is probably not looking good, but, even if there WAS news to release, it ain't gonna happen til after the 14th-ish.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: SADIS on January 05, 2005, 08:48:28 AM
Merck who?


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Scabbie on January 05, 2005, 08:57:13 AM
Remember all, Merck is on vacation til around the 14th of January.? I agree, Feb is probably not looking good, but, even if there WAS news to release, it ain't gonna happen til after the 14th-ish.

How the hell do you know that?  ???



Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: ppbebe on January 05, 2005, 09:15:02 AM
Scabbie, Mysteron has posted here about that.

Sadis, Merck is the manager of GNR and also the new CEO of Sanctuary.



Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: GypsySoul on January 05, 2005, 09:33:44 AM
Maybe an announcement will be made, but that's it.
So you want Axl to release the album BEFORE he announces the date?? ::)

Here's the link to "The frustration thread" in the Dead Horse section:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=16403.0


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: PhillyRiot on January 05, 2005, 09:51:06 AM
Now what you ask?  How bout more silence from the GNR camp.  That is my prediction.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: SADIS on January 05, 2005, 09:51:52 AM
Maybe an announcement will be made, but that's it.
So you want Axl to release the album BEFORE he announces the date?? ::)

Here's the link to "The frustration thread" in the Dead Horse section:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=16403.0

Where did you read that? I meant maybe an announcement will be made in the month February. Man, some people try to find anything to kick someone else to the ground. Maybe you should work as a journalist?


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: dash on January 05, 2005, 10:30:28 AM
what if you guys in US do a shoking press covered event asking Axl to release the cd??

You guys could do something shoking like when you re-elect Bush and becoming the joke of all the world!!!

Sugestion: " enter naked in a NBA game, with "where is Chinese Democracy" painted in your back;


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: RnT on January 05, 2005, 10:38:59 AM
Maybe an announcement will be made, but that's it.
So you want Axl to release the album BEFORE he announces the date?? ::)

Here's the link to "The frustration thread" in the Dead Horse section:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=16403.0

Where did you read that? I meant maybe an announcement will be made in the month February. Man, some people try to find anything to kick someone else to the ground. Maybe you should work as a journalist?

 :rofl:
that?s what I?m seeing here a long time... ANYTHING is excuse to become a "whining fans" ... but we are just trying to find something to talk about while nothing is happening with GNR.

and I agreed with dash, maybe you guys in the US could do some crazy stuff to all the journals talk about, that will piss Axl and maybe he shows his face on out tv saying "you fucking retards! I?m working on the promotion of the fucking album right now your pussys, the album is finished! can you all just calm down and let us do our thing? in two months the album will be release you motherfuckers... Jesus Crhist..."

.................. and THEN our news!

 :rofl:




Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: jarmo on January 05, 2005, 10:47:38 AM
To answer the question in the subject: Business as usual.

People will start new threads about when the record is gonna be out.

Some will predict GN'R to appear at any award shows, halftime shows, festivals and so on.


Now you know what you can look forward to until there's some actual news.




/jarmo



Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: usurper on January 05, 2005, 10:55:17 AM

Some will predict GN'R to appear at any award shows, halftime shows, festivals and so on.

Now you know what you can look forward to until there's some actual news.


Oh good. Rumors. Lovely.




Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Axl8302 on January 05, 2005, 11:04:17 AM
i dont know why but i seriously thought it was going to be out in feb! i've been let down for probably the last 5-6yr's with this album. So i just athought it had to happen....how many people think we'll have velvet revolvers second album before we have chinese democracy!?

T-


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: thelostrose on January 05, 2005, 11:08:49 AM
let's take this example:
"QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE have apparently selected "Little Sister" as the first single off their fourth album, "Lullabies To Paralyze", due on March 22 via Interscope. The song is scheduled to go for radio adds on January 24." If I remember correctly the release date was given december 23.

release date = december 23
single= january 24
album= march 22

Singles  usually arrive 2 months in advance isnt it true ? so:

release date = january 23
single= february 22
Chinese democracy should be released= april 24



well, i won't count on that, because:

release date: i don't know, but:
1st single: 25.06.1991 - YCBM
UYI: 16.09.1991

release date: i don't know, but:
1st single: 20.11.1993 - Ain't it fun
TSI: 23.11.1993

3 months and 3 days, so i think this whole 2 month theory isn't that reliable.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Wooody on January 05, 2005, 11:53:01 AM
let's take this example:
"QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE have apparently selected "Little Sister" as the first single off their fourth album, "Lullabies To Paralyze", due on March 22 via Interscope. The song is scheduled to go for radio adds on January 24." If I remember correctly the release date was given december 23.

release date = december 23
single= january 24
album= march 22

Singles? usually arrive 2 months in advance isnt it true ? so:

release date = january 23
single= february 22
Chinese democracy should be released= april 24



well, i won't count on that, because:

release date: i don't know, but:
1st single: 25.06.1991 - YCBM
UYI: 16.09.1991

release date: i don't know, but:
1st single: 20.11.1993 - Ain't it fun
TSI: 23.11.1993

3 months and 3 days, so i think this whole 2 month theory isn't that reliable.

that was more than 10 years ago. Times have changed on those days you could sell 10 million records with ease.
Show me another example taking place right now (2005) and i'll shut up. ;D


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: vicarious existence on January 05, 2005, 12:31:12 PM
that was more than 10 years ago. Times have changed on those days you could sell 10 million records with ease.
Show me another example taking place right now (2005) and i'll shut up. ;D
Usher? Eminem?


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Wooody on January 05, 2005, 12:45:38 PM
that was more than 10 years ago. Times have changed on those days you could sell 10 million records with ease.
Show me another example taking place right now (2005) and i'll shut up. ;D
Usher? Eminem?

err...are you talking about sales or release date/single/album (cause we are talking about the latter).


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: vicarious existence on January 05, 2005, 01:02:26 PM
err...are you talking about sales or release date/single/album (cause we are talking about the latter).

oh... haha oops... I thought you were just referring to artists who are capable of selling 10 million albums


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: axlsalinger on January 05, 2005, 01:33:24 PM
I have gazed deeply into my palantir and have seen the future:

January 14 - Backstage at a show, Dizzy Reed says that the Chinese Democracy album is "almost ready" and should be released "soon".
January 29 - A "reputable" poster on the Velvet Rope message board says the release date will now be Tuesday, April 12 ? to be announced shortly.
February 1 - A first-time poster suggests that he met Axl at his bar mitzvah, who told him the album will come out in April.
March 21 - At an awards show, Tommy Stinson says the album should definitely be out by summer.
April 12 - A "reputable" poster on the HTGTH message board says that the release date will now be Tuesday, June 7 ? to be announced shortly.
April 24 - Cornered at a fashion show in Europe, Richard Fortus says "Who? Oh, Guns n' Roses. Yeah, I think I'm still in that band. To be honest, I can't even tell anymore. But the Chinese Democracy tracks are brilliant and should be released soon."
June 2 - When asked whether Chinese Democracy will ever be released, Brain refuses to elaborate on his initial answer of "Yeah".
June 7 - A "reputable" poster on MyGNR says that the album's release date will now be Tuesday, September 20 ? to be announced shortly.
July 22 - Rolling Stone magazine announces that Josh Freese is now officially the drummer for all rock bands in the world, including Guns n' Roses.
July 31 - Josh Freese tells a reporter that we will soon see some "GNR-related activity".
August 1 - Robin Finck tells Circus magazine that he is taking a brief hiatus from GNR to re-join the Cirque de Soleil summer tour, but that he will return in the fall "when it all starts up again".?
August 2 - Over 30,000 message board posts are made dissecting the exact meaning of these words.
September 20 - Metal Sludge announces that Chinese Democracy will now be released on Tuesday, December 6 ? to be announced shortly.
October 31 - Axl Rose is reportedly spotted in the desert in Arizona naked and howling at the moon.
November 3 - A couple of wolves tell Animal Planet that Axl is actually "very nice" and "misunderstood".
December 6 - MTV reports that the brother of a woman who used to work for the son of an Interscope executive's poolboy suggests that the release date will be sometime in 2006 ? to be announced shortly.
December 8 - Josh Freese leaves GNR due to "inactivity".
December 31 - Backstage at a New Year's Eve show, Dizzy says that fans just need to have patience, because the record is "very nearly ready" and will be released "real soon".


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: echrisl on January 05, 2005, 01:49:49 PM

axlsalinger has the only theory I've found in this thread that seems even remotely credible.

The rest of you need to come to terms that Chinese Democracy is more than likely not coming out this year, or even this decade, let alone March or April of this year.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Luigi on January 05, 2005, 02:35:49 PM
 Hey Bro, don't worry, everythings lookin good the way I see it. The years only 5 days old, you've got 360 days left. I don't rember Axl saying anything about February anyway. Soon all the crying wil end.l


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Krispy Kreme on January 05, 2005, 03:40:58 PM
To answer the original thread about "now what?":
We wait for news and/or an announcement. The same as we have done
for several years. It is just that simple. All the rest is baseless conjecture.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: mitchejw on January 05, 2005, 04:12:39 PM
"I still think that GNR being so silent these days means there are things to come"

Congrats...you win "the most circular logic" award for today!


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: SADIS on January 05, 2005, 04:49:19 PM
"I still think that GNR being so silent these days means there are things to come"

Congrats...you win "the most circular logic" award for today!

Well, think about it. Everybody's lips are tightly sealed. That means that something's going on that they don't want us to know about. Silence before the storm......


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: AdZ on January 05, 2005, 05:03:37 PM
They've always been tightly sealed.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: norway on January 05, 2005, 06:22:25 PM
October 31 - Axl Rose is reportedly spotted in the desert in Arizona naked and howling at the moon.
November 3 - A couple of wolves tell Animal Planet that Axl is actually "very nice" and "misunderstood".
:hihi:

didn't know february was out of the question,-
- it comes around the firs part of this year anyway i think :peace:


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: awhellzno05 on January 05, 2005, 06:50:54 PM
I don't rember Axl saying anything about February anyway.

No but he did say a long ass time ago that an anouncement will be made soon when B-Head left.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 05, 2005, 08:49:31 PM
Axlsalinger, thanks for the laughs.  Great post.  My favorite was the wolves' quote to the reporter from Animal Planet.   :rofl:

I do think we're seeing CD this year.  Why do I think that?  I have no idea. :)


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: mick on January 05, 2005, 09:20:41 PM
"I still think that GNR being so silent these days means there are things to come"

Congrats...you win "the most circular logic" award for today!

Well, think about it. Everybody's lips are tightly sealed. That means that something's going on that they don't want us to know about. Silence before the storm......

Or.. there is nothing to talk about because there is nothing happening....

/just sayin'


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: echrisl on January 06, 2005, 01:15:30 AM
I don't rember Axl saying anything about February anyway.

No but he did say a long ass time ago that an anouncement will be made soon when B-Head left.

Axl doesn't understand the word soon.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Lady Livin on January 06, 2005, 01:34:00 AM
LOL @ axlsalinger.  :hihi:


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: grog mug on January 06, 2005, 01:49:43 AM
GNRonline does not say April.  It says NO NEWS FOUND, and has said this since the aborted 2002 tour.  Only the stupid google search claims to have the release date.  Just a bunch of fans messing around changing the date, and getting people's hopes up.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: takeshi on January 06, 2005, 03:08:04 PM
I don't rember Axl saying anything about February anyway.

No but he did say a long ass time ago that an anouncement will be made soon when B-Head left.

Axl doesn't understand the word soon.

Maybe Axl needs to get his ass kicked until he learns what that word means. ::)


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: blasphemer on January 06, 2005, 03:14:40 PM
I bet my life it doesnt come out in April.  So if it does, i guess i must do away with, and wont be able to listen.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: Luigi on January 06, 2005, 10:55:37 PM
Maybe someone needs kick your ass until Axl gets CD out.


Title: Re: February is out of the question. Now what?
Post by: estranged.1098 on January 07, 2005, 11:13:14 AM
Here's a suggestion: if you feel there's nothing interesting going on with Guns N' Roses, go one of the "Off-Topic" areas of the forum and have a blast.