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Title: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: hnb on December 27, 2004, 11:11:48 PM
found these dates @ the site.. (***Also, Hookers drummer does metal sludge 10 questions..funny dizzy reference:  http://www.metalsludge.tv/main/index.php?module=subjects&func=printpage&pageid=849&scope=all
see question 10)


Newly posted Hookers N Blow Dates: (added 12/27 11pst)

01/20/05 Hard Rock Cafe/Beverly Center beverly hills CA 8pm Billed as Unkle DAD:  Benefit For ravensheart.org

02/03/05  Club Metronome  burlington  VT  10pm
   
02/04/05  Lucky Dog Music Hall  worcester  MA  11pm
   
02/05/05  TBA  stanford  CT  TBA
   
02/06/05  TBA  providence  RI  TBA
   
02/07/05  Webster Theatre (Underground)  hartford  CT  11pm
   
02/12/05  Cornell University  ithaca  NY  TBA
   Dizzy Reed can be seen every Monday In Hermosa Beach @ the Lighthouse with "the other White Meat".  GLAMNATION @ the Gig 12/31, and every Thursday @ the Cat Club in Los Angeles @ 11pm w/ many notables (ie; Gilby Clarke, Tracii Guns, Slim Jim Phantom and more)

Special Dizzy Reed Appearance 1/20 @ Hard Rock Cafe/Bev. Hills, CA for the Raven Foundation Benefit.  see www.ravensheart.org for details


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: younggunner on December 27, 2004, 11:34:47 PM
it sux it really does...who the hell knows...

But I think that they are going to release the album before any tour begins. So nothing is out of question yet.....

I know everyone is banking on Feb. but I wouldnt count on it. If its not out by May, which means a single in april or beg of May, then I doubt we are gonna see the album but who knows...May release with a summer european fetsival kinda tour and then a fall arena tour here in the states...something like 2002...just with he album already out



Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Budweiser Froggs on December 27, 2004, 11:46:49 PM
gets better and better everyday


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: vicarious existence on December 27, 2004, 11:52:39 PM
Did anyone actually expect them to be touring in february anyway?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: sic. on December 28, 2004, 12:33:07 AM
Don't knock it.

At the moment, both Tommy and Dizzy have dates scheduled up until the weekend prior to Valentine's Day. It was already known that Tommy would be on tour in Jan/Feb, while Dizzy's known to be the other active tourer in the GNR camp. Therefore it's really no big surprise that he's following suit.

And Tommy has said the record may very well come out while he's touring with VGH.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Naupis on December 28, 2004, 12:41:25 AM
If the record comes out with band members on the road doing their own thing that only means this thing will be a complete disaster. After seeing the amount of time and effort the VR guys put into promo and the countless hours of crap you do, all 7 members of GNR are going to have to be promoting this thing 24/7 to get the exposure we want it to. Besides, does anyone really see Axl doing promo crap every day. It is going to end up falling on the other band members, and having the 2 longest running and most personable members (Dizzy and Tommy) out on tour is not going to cut it regardless of how anyone around here spins it. This album is once in a lifetime for all the parties involved in making it, and I refuse to believe that it is in the best interest of the record to not have them together promoting the thing.

This project has been tattered for too long, and at some point the 7 of them are going to have to get in a room together and begin executing a decent marketing strategy. That can't be done when you have members out on the road doing other stuff. THat would have been like the VR record coming out in June while Slash was touring with Snakepit or Duff was with Loaded, it just wouldn't have worked and wouldn't have made them look professional. GNR needs to at some point pull together and act like a real band......divide and conquer has proven to be unsuccessful.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Skeletor on December 28, 2004, 01:21:32 AM
After seeing the amount of time and effort the VR guys put into promo and the countless hours of crap you do, all 7 members of GNR are going to have to be promoting this thing 24/7 to get the exposure we want it to.

Perhaps the album will have some merits of its own, and won't have to rely on hype?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Naupis on December 28, 2004, 01:36:47 AM
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Perhaps the album will have some merits of its own, and won't have to rely on hype?

Just having a good album in 2005 is not enough. You need to be visible. You have to hustle and get after it. Sitting back and assuming everyone is going to go gaga is not going to move product. Especially when your not a rapper or Usher, who's video is shown on MTV  or played on KISS Fm every 5 seconds. For a rock group in this corporate climate, you are going to have to be out there if you want to move a tremendous amount of product and really rule the music world given the no matter how good the music is you won't be seen on MTV and won't be heard on many of the largets radio formats(given that very few are rock friendly that play top 40 type stuff which has the biggest reach audience wise.)

So yes, in terms of music reality for a rock band in 2005, GNR are going to have to get after it publicity wise or someone else will. Regardless of how good the music on the album is. At least in America it is a very style over substance country. Just having one is not enough, you have to do both.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: norway on December 28, 2004, 03:23:51 AM
don't matter if someone is ontour while cd is laucnhed...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: leesixxrose on December 28, 2004, 04:51:49 AM
lol... dizzy and tommy keep making these mini tours.....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: gquinn on December 28, 2004, 09:07:22 AM
dizzy might want to rethink that feb. 6 date in providence if the patriots are in the super bowl.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Charity Case on December 28, 2004, 09:30:23 AM
This album is apparently no where close to being released.  A real shame.  People should stop holding out hope for a February release at this point.  The marketing machine would have to already be in full throttle to make a February release.  I agree with Naupis on that point.  And apparently Tommy and Reed know nothing about the release either. 

As for Dizzy in Providence, (I live in Providence and am a huge Patriots fan), no one will go see him if the Pats are in the Super Bowl and no one will go see him if they are not.  It won't make much of a difference.

This is getting depressing really.  I had to laugh out loud when a poster in this thread said that a May release with a summer festival tour was more likely.  I have seen that same thing on this board for the last 3 years.  What is most likely is that this thing is held up due to legal issues or lack of quality product and is a very very long way away from being released.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: mikegiuliana on December 28, 2004, 09:41:37 AM
Hookers n blow ,how wonderfull... :drool:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: leesixxrose on December 28, 2004, 09:46:36 AM

This is getting depressing really.? I had to laugh out loud when a poster in this thread said that a May release with a summer festival tour was more likely.? I have seen that same thing on this board for the last 3 years.? What is most likely is that this thing is held up due to legal issues or lack of quality product and is a very very long way away from being released.

agreed..
he doesnt even have a guitar player named since fuckithead left.... ?for the past 3 years Tommy and Dizzy have been playing those little liquor barn bars and telling all the internet fans that "soon" ?or something... Remember when Dizzy said that "Next time i come to Chicago you will be holding CD in your hand" or something like that... ?

I would rather save my money then go there and suffer through Tommy or Dizzys band of friends playing thier shity songs or Dizzy playing all cover tunes and then be told "soon" dont worry fans!!!

Dont worry fans soon is the word!! ?but they say publicly "Axl cares deeply for his fans" thats the biggest load of shit ever... "he cares sooo deeply that he doesnt speak to you" or "tell you anything coz the press cant ever get it right".. ?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: mikegiuliana on December 28, 2004, 10:02:49 AM
One thing I will look forward to is the interviews with dizzy involving new gnr n the album.. :D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Mikkamakka on December 28, 2004, 10:42:06 AM
One thing I will look forward to is the interviews with dizzy involving new gnr n the album.. :D

Can I quote from his next interviews? He'll say 'it's coming, it'll be great, Axl's voice is wonderful, but I can't say more, because we want to keep things in secret'.

Someone please ask Tommy or Dizzy:

-when was the last time they met Axl?
-when was the last time the whole band met (and played together)?
-when did the finish their parts in the studio?

and of course all the usual questions about CD being finished, will be released, new guitar player etc.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: norway on December 28, 2004, 10:45:34 AM
and the music :D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Luigi on December 28, 2004, 11:25:40 AM
You must rember, Axl said : I don't know if soon is the word. Then Buckethead throws a curve ball.
Strike three were all out. And you know dam well whats going on if you know Axl. He's making sure
this project is bullet proof. So just have faith   


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Pandora on December 28, 2004, 11:47:17 AM
Are you all finished with the piss-taking? Take a look at the top of the page : this is a thread about Dizzy's band's live schedule. If you're not interested in that, you have the right to remain silent. You should all know that by now.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Luigi on December 28, 2004, 12:08:15 PM
Oh yea! bizzy Dizzy, SORRY! gotta piss somewhere. my bad   


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Leddy on December 28, 2004, 01:43:44 PM
Are you all finished with the piss-taking? Take a look at the top of the page : this is a thread about Dizzy's band's live schedule. If you're not interested in that, you have the right to remain silent. You should all know that by now.

Sorry pandora, but in reality, very few people care about the nuts and bolts of a Hookers N Blow mini tour.  This is a G'n'R board and people are going to discuss the impact of this on the G'n'R schedule (or lack thereof).


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: norway on December 28, 2004, 01:46:43 PM

Sorry pandora, but in reality, very few people care about the nuts and bolts of a Hookers N Blow mini tour.? This is a G'n'R board and people are going to discuss the impact of this on the G'n'R schedule (or lack thereof).

yeah, i gotta agree the major intrest lie there...
your first post, messin w mod :hihi: welcome to the board :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Luigi on December 28, 2004, 02:12:51 PM
Thanks Leddy


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Pandora on December 28, 2004, 03:10:47 PM
Are you all finished with the piss-taking? Take a look at the top of the page : this is a thread about Dizzy's band's live schedule. If you're not interested in that, you have the right to remain silent. You should all know that by now.

Sorry pandora, but in reality, very few people care about the nuts and bolts of a Hookers N Blow mini tour.  This is a G'n'R board and people are going to discuss the impact of this on the G'n'R schedule (or lack thereof).

I couldn't give a damn whether you care or not about whatever's nuts and bolts. Taking a thread about the live schedule of a band member and turning it into the umpteenth "oh this is a bad sign, CD won't be released in February" whiny bitching is not only useless, but also out of line and contrary to the rules (that is, no going off-topic for the slow people out there).


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: norway on December 28, 2004, 03:15:40 PM
you have 777 post :P what was the 666'th?

can we request questions to b asked 4 to the people attending the show?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Leddy on December 28, 2004, 03:20:06 PM
Are you all finished with the piss-taking? Take a look at the top of the page : this is a thread about Dizzy's band's live schedule. If you're not interested in that, you have the right to remain silent. You should all know that by now.

Sorry pandora, but in reality, very few people care about the nuts and bolts of a Hookers N Blow mini tour.? This is a G'n'R board and people are going to discuss the impact of this on the G'n'R schedule (or lack thereof).

I couldn't give a damn whether you care or not about whatever's nuts and bolts. Taking a thread about the live schedule of a band member and turning it into the umpteenth "oh this is a bad sign, CD won't be released in February" whiny bitching is not only useless, but also out of line and contrary to the rules (that is, no going off-topic for the slow people out there).

Pandora, I certainly meant no dissrespect with my original post, ?if it was conveyed that way, i apologise. ?I have been a long time observer, short time poster, and hope to add to the disscusions in a constructive way - pissing contests aren't my thing.

However, the issue isn't whether I personally care about the "nuts and bolts", I said very few people do, and i stand by that as proportionally, the people here don't. ?

G'n'R fans would primarily care about the implications these tour dates have to the bigger picture, therefore discussing this, in this thread, is in no way off topic ????


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Pandora on December 28, 2004, 03:30:37 PM
you have 777 post :P what was the 666'th?

Probably something annoying. Isn't that my job?

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can we request questions to b asked 4 to the people attending the show?

I guess so.


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G'n'R fans would primarily care about the implications these tour dates have to the bigger picture, therefore discussing this, in this thread, is in no way off topic  ???

I get you, but the problem is there is not one thread discussing this, but more like 10 all the time, and it gets VERY old after a while. I also noticed it's always the same 4-5 people complaining about solo tours and CD not being released at such or such date (like it's a friggin' surprise).
I have no problem with people discussing the reasons why the album is not released, but please do it in the right place. There are several threads in the Dead Horse section that are dedicated to just that.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Leddy on December 28, 2004, 03:36:18 PM
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I get you, but the problem is there is not one thread discussing this, but more like 10 all the time, and it gets VERY old after a while. I also noticed it's always the same 4-5 people complaining about solo tours and CD not being released at such or such date (like it's a friggin' surprise).
I have no problem with people discussing the reasons why the album is not released, but please do it in the right place. There are several threads in the Dead Horse section that are dedicated to just that.

Agreed  :beer:

Mindless bitching is not constructive, however I am all for people expressing what they feel these developments are doing to the overall sutuation.  I know as fans we can easily over-analyse things, but without official news, it's all we have  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: norway on December 28, 2004, 03:37:51 PM
Probably something annoying. Isn't that my job?



yeah ::) didn't why didn't i see that ;D

ask dizzy if the scrapped songs and unreleased will ever get leaked on the internet at least?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Luigi on December 28, 2004, 03:49:22 PM
Pandora, I went off topic and I'm sorry. Love Dizzy, no disrespect tords his gig. Thanks guys


Title: Re: Dizzy Reeds Hookers N Blow live in Feb..
Post by: Pandora on December 28, 2004, 04:56:29 PM
No need to apologize people. Respecting the rules is enough for me  ;D