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Title: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: mr.sneebly on December 24, 2004, 12:41:15 AM
hi, I had a question regarding how to get a certain effect that Slash gets at the begining of the Suckertrain Blues solo.  It sounds as if his guitar is screaming right before he starts to bust into his solo.  I wish I could explain it better, but does anyone know what I'm even talking about and how to achieve this effect...It sounds really cool.

Peace


Title: Re: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: AdZ on December 24, 2004, 04:57:46 PM
I'm pretty sure that's Scott Weiland.


Title: Re: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: mr.sneebly on December 24, 2004, 09:58:03 PM
it's when Weiland is screaming....underneath his scream, their is an effect that slash is using.  When Weiland is screaming and right after he finishes for the first part of the next measure is the effect I'm talking about.  Not sure if Slash is using a whammy bar with a wah....I can't seem to duplicate it.  If anybody knows what I'm talking about, help, I'd love to be able to duplicate it.

Late


Title: Re: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: Dont Try Me on December 25, 2004, 06:20:21 AM
I don't think he is using a wah there. He's definetely on the whammy bar thing. BC Rich Mockingbird SL, you know that cool red guitar.

I listened to the song and I hear what you mean. Between 2:44- 2.47 under weiland's scream I'm not sure there but it either is feedback or a pinch harmonic. Or a combination between those.

3:15-3:18 = feedback, vibrato (and a little bit of whammy bar)



Title: Re: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: mr.sneebly on December 25, 2004, 02:58:03 PM
How exactly do I achieve this "pinch harmonic"?  Excuse me I've just recently started playing...


Title: Re: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: Dont Try Me on December 25, 2004, 08:55:48 PM
check out this page: http://www.resnets.com/tutorial/sound-fun.htm

"A Pinch Harmonic is where you pick and touch the edge of your thumb on the point of the harmonic at the same time.To figure out Pinch Harmonics, find a? natural harmonic around the area of your pickups.? Touch a string with a left hand finger at different points until you find a good natural harmonic. "

or http://www.cyberfret.com/techniques/harmonics/pinch/index.php

go to google and see what sites you can find about them. There's allot of sites which explain the basic behind that. But it can be pretty hard to master. I myself have a hard time doing those and don't bother myself too much with it.

Hope this helps.




Title: Re: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: darkmonth on December 26, 2004, 09:10:18 AM
He's definetely on the whammy bar thing. BC Rich Mockingbird SL, you know that cool red guitar.

Indeed it IS a Wammy bar but you're incorrect about the guitar used.  Slash plays the BC Rich on stage, sure, but in the studio he recorded that solo on a Fender Stratocaster.


Title: Re: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: Dont Try Me on December 26, 2004, 09:19:05 AM
He's definetely on the whammy bar thing. BC Rich Mockingbird SL, you know that cool red guitar.

Indeed it IS a Wammy bar but you're incorrect about the guitar used.? Slash plays the BC Rich on stage, sure, but in the studio he recorded that solo on a Fender Stratocaster.

on a fender? That's interesting. I assumed it was a BC. Are there any articles about that/?

Nice website btw, (waiting for mp3)

Edit: found an article stating the same, cool



Title: Re: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: darkmonth on December 26, 2004, 11:43:03 AM
Thanks for the website comments :D

MP3's are recorded and mixed but at the mo contain no vocals.  We're doing a vocal recording session soon.  Whenever I can get the people round to my home studio.  I recorded all the stuff with my own gear.

PC with Cubase.  We mic'd up the drumkit with mic's on each drum etc, into my 12 track desk, into the PC.  We did a guide track and the drummer recorded to that.  Then we did guitars and bass in that same day.  Then I mixed em.  I havent completed it all of course.  When the vocals are done (within a week I hope), we'll have them online :D

Can't wait!!!

Anyway... back on topic ;)


Title: Re: Effect in Suckertrain Blues
Post by: Butch Français on December 26, 2004, 12:10:36 PM
He's definetely on the whammy bar thing. BC Rich Mockingbird SL, you know that cool red guitar.

Indeed it IS a Wammy bar but you're incorrect about the guitar used.? Slash plays the BC Rich on stage, sure, but in the studio he recorded that solo on a Fender Stratocaster.

on a fender? That's interesting. I assumed it was a BC. Are there any articles about that/?

Nice website btw, (waiting for mp3)

Edit: found an article stating the same, cool



there was a big article where Slash talked about what he used on the album, I think it was back in April maybe. it was in Total Guitar.
he used a Fender Stratocaster for the lead parts of Suckertrain Blues, and a Telecaster for the rhythm. : ok: