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Title: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: SINSHINE on December 20, 2004, 08:26:35 AM
...Do you think it's possible (taking the enormous wait time and false starts this project has gone through into careful concideration) GN'R might release ALL three albums at once (similar to the Illusions)? Could we interpret 'taking the recording to the next level' in this fashion?

Personally, I don't think they will. But I think they've got something up there sleeve to coincide with the release...something we won't expect. I wouldn't be surprised if they DID release all 3 albums at once (if 3 albums exist, that is  :P  )

 


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: Lawzy on December 20, 2004, 08:35:25 AM
I would love to see 3 at once, but it's more likely like Axl said(if there are 3 albums.) So they can tour without big breaks. So they can really concentrate on touring and promoting GNR. There's a lot of work to be done if this new GNR lineup is to do well.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: Scabbie on December 20, 2004, 08:45:52 AM
Wow, that would be incredible. I'd have to take at least 3 duvet days off from work. The only downside is that it wouldn't leave much too look forward too.

I don't think that would be likely however, I think we are more likely to get 2 copies of the same album but with diffrent mixes.





Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: Dave_Rose on December 20, 2004, 08:50:48 AM
That would be cool but I dont think we will see 3 albums at once


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: Fuckin' Gunner on December 20, 2004, 09:01:42 AM
Would be great, but I doubt it.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: Intercourse on December 20, 2004, 09:17:02 AM
This would make no sense commercially. If the impact of the re-emergence of GNR on the world is softer than expected  then the three albums would all go down together and the massive shipping and stocking costs and promotion would not be recouped. However, if Axl comes out the gate with a killer album and it sells say 3-5 million, solid touring should ensure that the proceeding two albums should notch up even greater sales.
You must remember that the world has heard very little in 10 years so you would have to be careful not to swamp the public with music. Give them 13 or so amazing comeback songs to focus on and the world will be back at Axls door. Having 3 new albums to promote would also present live  issues with the band not finding it easy to pick what songs to focus on for maximum crowd pleasure. Interviews would be rambling affairs with some journos focusing on one album and some on others. It would be diffivult to focus with such a huge amount of music to push.  GNR need a new core to rally around and that should be CD. Also, the GNR live pick list would be up to about 250 viable released songs which would be hard for a new band to perform at any given time (knowing Axls no set list policy).
Its a dream for us hardcore fans but not really a viable reality. Still, this is Axls world and 'viable' and 'reasonable' are words he likes to bend right out of shape!!!
Peace,
Intercourse.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: SADIS on December 20, 2004, 09:22:30 AM
I don't think that would be likely however, I think we are more likely to get 2 copies of the same album but with diffrent mixes.





I hope that never happens. That sucks bigtime, that's too commercial for me. I know Axl wants his music to sell good, but releasing it in different version's so that more people will like it is not a good thing. Make a version and stick with it.

But maybe they like all the versions they made, I don't know.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: fixintodie on December 20, 2004, 09:44:46 AM
It would be great, as people have said, but hugely unlikely. I'd much rather have all 3 at once and let that be it, than go through the whole ChiDem wait two more times...


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: Malcolm on December 20, 2004, 09:47:01 AM
I highly dought it..I mean ya it would be a mark in history (To my knolage it has never been done?)..But i wouldnt like it..It wouldnt give us that excitment of waiting for the next album..And what if it flops...These will proably be the last album you ever see from Axl..I hope not but it probaly will be


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: AxlsMainMan on December 20, 2004, 10:55:20 AM
This would make no sense commercially. If the impact of the re-emergence of GNR on the world is softer than expected? then the three albums would all go down together and the massive shipping and stocking costs and promotion would not be recouped. However, if Axl comes out the gate with a killer album and it sells say 3-5 million, solid touring should ensure that the proceeding two albums should notch up even greater sales.
You must remember that the world has heard very little in 10 years so you would have to be careful not to swamp the public with music. Give them 13 or so amazing comeback songs to focus on and the world will be back at Axls door. Having 3 new albums to promote would also present live? issues with the band not finding it easy to pick what songs to focus on for maximum crowd pleasure. Interviews would be rambling affairs with some journos focusing on one album and some on others. It would be diffivult to focus with such a huge amount of music to push.? GNR need a new core to rally around and that should be CD. Also, the GNR live pick list would be up to about 250 viable released songs which would be hard for a new band to perform at any given time (knowing Axls no set list policy).
Its a dream for us hardcore fans but not really a viable reality. Still, this is Axls world and 'viable' and 'reasonable' are words he likes to bend right out of shape!!!
Peace,
Intercourse.

Exactly what he said. It just isnt logical after 10 years of virtual silence, no new music, and a botched tour to all of the sudden drop 3 albums on the public. Testing the waters would be the best tactic by releasing the strongest and most influential album in Axl's opinion so that it has the biggest impact on the mondern music landscape and the buying public. If there are in fact 2 other albums ready to go, Id tour a year-year and a half and drop them gradually as long as the tour is properly promoted and selling well. If people think this 3 albums at once idea is best suited, then you need to reevaluate how costly and nerve racking promoting one album alone to the best of your abilities is. I think we'll be lucky to get Chinese Democracy and if there are more albums after that then so be it but I could easily be contented with "Axl's masterpiece" for a very, very long time.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: Throatrake on December 20, 2004, 11:23:53 AM
Without getting into marketing, or what "usually" happens with an album's release;

GN'R put out 1 CD=people will buy it,  it will be a hit, there is plenty of money being made.

GN'R put 3 cd's out at once=people will buy it, it will be a hit, there is plenty of money being made.


I personally think Axl won't release his new material the "usual" way.
Axl Dropping 3 CD's at once sounds logical to me.
That way he can continuously tour as long as he wants without going back into the studio.
Just a long tour with a lot of short breaks.

On a side note, this whole project delay is a good example of how negativity can keep a good thing buried.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: Booker Floyd on December 20, 2004, 11:50:30 AM
...Do you think it's possible (taking the enormous wait time and false starts this project has gone through into careful concideration) GN'R might release ALL three albums at once (similar to the Illusions)?

Absolutely not.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: killingvector on December 20, 2004, 12:08:02 PM
I think GnR releasing three albums over an extended period of time was possible given the state of the band in 2002. I think considering the problems that have occured and the backlash against the tour, i wouldn't be surprised if axl began pulling songs set aside for future albums onto CD in order to ensure the quality exceeds expectation.  At this stage, i doubt there is enough material to meet the label's exceptions for a mainstream release.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: chineseblues on December 20, 2004, 12:28:18 PM
I don't think that would be likely however, I think we are more likely to get 2 copies of the same album but with diffrent mixes.





I hope that never happens. That sucks bigtime, that's too commercial for me. I know Axl wants his music to sell good, but releasing it in different version's so that more people will like it is not a good thing. Make a version and stick with it.

But maybe they like all the versions they made, I don't know.


well i guess you hate vr that very thing then.  ;)


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: mikegiuliana on December 20, 2004, 12:33:47 PM
...Do you think it's possible (taking the enormous wait time and false starts this project has gone through into careful concideration) GN'R might release ALL three albums at once (similar to the Illusions)?

Absolutely not.

I second that, I'm worrying about one right now..


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: 2NaFish on December 20, 2004, 12:40:52 PM
no i don't think it'll happen. axl said in london they'll be released over time. "and when the record company thinks that has run it's course you'll get it all over again. nd by that time i should be done with the third album." or words to that effect.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: RitzWalker8 on December 20, 2004, 02:16:48 PM
right now, I would take the release of 1 song.   Beggars can't be choosers. 

Free Axl


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: SADIS on December 20, 2004, 02:32:08 PM
I don't think that would be likely however, I think we are more likely to get 2 copies of the same album but with diffrent mixes.





I hope that never happens. That sucks bigtime, that's too commercial for me. I know Axl wants his music to sell good, but releasing it in different version's so that more people will like it is not a good thing. Make a version and stick with it.

But maybe they like all the versions they made, I don't know.


well i guess you hate vr that very thing then.? ;)

Excuse me........ uhm, what?


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: ppbebe on December 20, 2004, 03:01:59 PM
...Do you think it's possible (taking the enormous wait time and false starts this project has gone through into careful concideration) GN'R might release ALL three albums at once (similar to the Illusions)? Could we interpret 'taking the recording to the next level' in this fashion?

Personally, I don't think they will. But I think they've got something up there sleeve to coincide with the release...something we won't expect. I wouldn't be surprised if they DID release all 3 albums at once (if 3 albums exist, that is  :P  )

 
Possible but not practical. Maybe later, after the first album, the idea would be taken into consideration a good deal.
I?d say releasing three singles at once(with all B-sides or A the same title) might be effective on the threshold?



Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: norway on December 20, 2004, 05:32:10 PM
not at once+it's done b4 (but maybe that don't matter)

I think, as axl said in london, that we get a lot of songs and bonustracks


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on December 20, 2004, 05:48:32 PM
I believe strongly in the "3 Album Theory", but I really doubt they'll release them all at the same time. I think they want to be in different stages for each album, progressively, so they wouldn't want to relase, say, a "classic rock" album, an industrial album, and a metal album all on the same day. It would be like "This year we wanna focus on more classical stuff, then next year we'll do a lot of experimenting", etc.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: blasphemer on December 20, 2004, 05:57:37 PM
First off, the 3 albums is not a theory. This is what AXL ROSE said in a damn interview. 2nd he did not say he was gonna release all 3 at once. He said he release 1 after another and tour thru all 3 albums.  Where the hell do people get there damn info. And then start a stupid thread based on shit that no one has ever said.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: norway on December 20, 2004, 06:22:57 PM
First off, the 3 albums is not a theory. This is what AXL ROSE said in a damn interview. 2nd he did not say he was gonna release all 3 at once. He said he release 1 after another and tour thru all 3 albums.? Where the hell do people get there damn info. And then start a stupid thread based on shit that no one has ever said.

you misunderstand, we all know what axl said in london, it's about if you think all three at once : ok:


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: blasphemer on December 20, 2004, 09:51:09 PM
No i didnt misunderstand. I heard this in a radio interview he did and he says he release the albums as time goes on. I mean what idoit what release 3 albums at once.   Only a dumbass would.

Also use ur illusions is considered 2 albums. But if u have a double cd album its still considered 1 album. Also he said chinese democracy is gonna be about 30 songs on a 2 cd's which will still be 1 album.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: norway on December 20, 2004, 10:10:23 PM
ah, ok. Never heard him say the dobbeldisc thing, which radioshow?


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: jgfnsr on December 20, 2004, 10:49:31 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Axl and the band need to take the absolute best tracks from however many albums they have and put them on Chinese Democracy.

Then go from there...


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: AxlsMainMan on December 20, 2004, 11:16:36 PM
No i didnt misunderstand. I heard this in a radio interview he did and he says he release the albums as time goes on. I mean what idoit what release 3 albums at once.? ?Only a dumbass would.

 Also he said chinese democracy is gonna be about 30 songs on a 2 cd's which will still be 1 album.

You might want to double check that information. Axl has never said Chinese Democracy would be 2 cds. The most accurate account of what the album will consist of is 18 tracks, with a bonus disc/b-side disc. He said so on the asian leg of the tour after saying something regarding the public fearing that he wouldnt have alot of material left todebut if he already has performed 6 new songs.


Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: Cocaine__tongue on December 21, 2004, 10:56:39 AM
I don't think it will happen.Everybody will be quite happy just with one album, so it doesn't make any sense to release the 3 of them at the same time. plus, the musical style is supossed to be diferent in each one.....



Title: Re: For those that believe in the "3 Album Theory"...
Post by: norway on December 21, 2004, 04:43:27 PM
agre with cocaintongue, but i do think, thas cd, as whit dvd's, that the release will contain more than just a average disc with songs.

Bonuses, extra stuff etc