Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I really like the new band :yes:
- and they seem to break som barriers already in what a rockband traditionally should consist of

and many think it sucks that buckethead is gone and that a replacement would be weak in any case...
it's both talent and the image he brought :-\

but what about a female guitar player, that really know how to work it :D

I think it would be sooo cool to see that, and that would be better than a guy replacing buckethead
dunno why, just think soo

motley crue had samantha maloney on drums for a while and it was really cool & sounded right 8)

how would you react, if gnr showed up with a female guitarist or playin other instruments, additional vocals etc cool?

 :yes: or? :no:

I don't think anything else that can "scream" gay as much as that. Its bad enough he isnt running with the crew, but to throw a girl into the mix would not be kosher  :rant:

Sure it's an interesting idea.. for any other band.. but for GN'R.. would just be another reason for all the slaggers to have another go at what Axl has done to GN'R etc etc..

Depends if the female we're all talkin' about rocks or not.

Hell she could even rock more than Axl Rose, 'classic' Axl or not.

She could be vintage motherfuckin' Rock N' Roll hahaha

If people were able to accept the fact that a GNR guitarist wore a bucket in his head, they can also handle a female guitarist. Sure, there'd be a buzz (as always) but I think it would eventually tone down if the band would deliver musically. I do admit a lot would depend on her stage presence.

Interesting idea, BTW.

I could never stand Sorum. I can remember thinking when he was still "an employee" how cool it would be if they dropped him and got a kickass female drummer. In retrospect I don't think drummer would have been the right place for a girl in the original band... maybe more rhythm g. or something. But with the current band and the way there is not much premium placed on anarchy and debauchery, a girl would not be terribly out of place, even as a drummer (but not for Brain, who's awesome).

A Perfect Circle have a female member! She is great! I think it also would look great in GNR! But anyway. She must be reallllly good on the guitar. And good looking :yes:

I've gotta say, I think the majority of Guns N' Roses fans are more sexist than you think. They'll be able to get their heads round the KFC bucket wearing, masked, mute, freak of nature, but not a woman in the band.

I think any fan or rock music knows that all the great rock bands have been all male and that having a woman in would just kill any chances of GNR being considered 'great'. They would lose credability.

I'm not being sexist, I don't like it, but it's just the truth of the matter.

@#$%Funker

If she was stunningly hot then maybe.....

On a more serious note - u find me a female guitarist out there worth emplying. There ain't many, and u'd really have to look hard to find one genuinely good. The chances of finding a talented one thats also stunning...well, the odds ain't good.....

Gun or rose, male or female, Come what may, I will see it through,Yay!

It?s all depends on the person.
Understanding of the spirit of this band, balls, Musicianship, patience, attitude that never fawn over anyone (but music)....are the Essentials just off the top of my head.

for example, ?
Can you imagine a tall slender beauty not tarty but sexy one, with dark straight long hair in tight black leather mini skirt, twangs killer riffs from her delicate fingers like nobody?s business? ?Even Evanescence followers shit their pants and hail her and GNR. :drool:

In spite of everything, There is some question that such a girl guitarist is in existence. If we must wait? :o another decade to see the one, well, fuck Nay! :-\

I wouldn't mind as long as she fits the band. But do you really think Axl would hire a female to play guitar? Your smoking crack if so... I mean according to all of his ex-female companions he doesn't have much respect for women. Unless maybe she wants to piss in a litter box...? I'm totally joking by the way....

I think that's a bit outdated information... Paz left ages ago.

But back to the topic, I wouldn't mind at all if Gn'R would pick a hot guitar playing chick to be their third guitarist... :)

It's a pity Melissa Auf Der Maur doesn't play guitar, she rocks.. : ok:

A female guitarist in Guns N' Roses?!?

BAH!  :rant:

Women's role in rock n' roll :

1) Fans
2) Groupies
3) Sometimes they make good singers (but that job is obviously already taken in GN'R)  : ok:

Hell, yes I can imagine her  :drool:  :yes:

Playin in guns n roses....  :no:

On my bed...  :yes:

 :hihi:

@#$%Funker

If you wanna talk like that, take it somewhere else.

_____

I don't know, I think it could work, it's just the group dynamic has always been very male oriented.  It'd be interesting to see.

I'd welcome that. It'd be interesting to shake it up a bit, but she'd have to have the right chemistry with the other guys.

Yes, it would give the New GNR haters more ammunition against the new band (a girl?! Gasp!!), but eh, why not?

Melissa is incredible, her new record is amazing.

Her resume' is pretty impressive as well.

I really like the idea, but I don't think even the band would like to work with a girl. I've read somebody (don't remember if ot's from GN'R or not) saying that it's better to work with people you willl never have a risk of a relationship or something like this...

Anyways, would be great to see a good-looking girl playing on GNR...

How about a female version of Buckethead?

Why, because he used the word "Gay".  Get over it!

haha, maybe buckethead is a girl!

Nobody considered that did they, eh, eh?

Ok, maybe not.....

@#$%Funker

Talking about risks, I checked out and Now I can remind you about something everyone forgets and no one here give a fuck about. Were there any successful hard rock bands with a half black lead guitarist before GNR? Don?t say Jimi for obvious reason.

:rofl: :lmao: ?:rofl:
I fear to ask you? :-[ but are you from England? you sound very much like my granddad.

You're so gay for saying something that gay!


You get over it. ?: ok:



Regarding the idea of a female bandmember, I don't mind. Obviously there are talented female musicians out there.


/jarmo

 ??? You must have missed my point.

What do you mean sound like your grandad?

Maybe you mean my avatar looks like your grandad? :P

@#$%Funker

P.S. I am English darling

I'm no feminist, but you all are fucking misogynists. Listen to L7, especially their album for Bricks Are Heavy . . . then come back and tell me it's "gay."

By the way, they covered Used to Love [Him].

Yeah, L7 kicks Ass!

vh1 even remembers to always include them in their metal-affiliated programs/specials, while the rest of the list contain males.

get the chick from white zombie..

It wouldn't bother me, but do they need another player?

They need coutrney love.. :hihi:

Plenty of kick-ass women here:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://wrsmetal5.vila.bol.com.br/l7-bigbw.gif&imgrefurl=http://mpwrs1.vilabol.uol.com.br/MUSAS.htm&h=376&w=431&sz=139&tbnid=4x_XgJEDmg0J:&tbnh=107&tbnw=122&start=79&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dl7%26start%3D60%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

It would be an okay idea if the girl could really rock but I cant see her jamming along with robin on rocket queen or my michelle. but if it gets Gnr on tour im all for it : ok:

For sure, and she can play guitar.

Oh, cool, I just thought she was a bass player. :peace:

I though Jennifer Batten would be an excellent fit with the new band.  I had this same idea 3 years ago and got laughed at.

I still don't see what's wrong with it because no one has given me a plausable reason why not.

What makes that idea so "gay"? 

If GNR got back together there would be people ragging on it.  No matter what, we're stuck with those assholes.

Female Artists, dont get me wrong, there are some wicked ones out there but i really cant see a girl in the band.  :-\

almost everyone rockband had mostly boys or mostly girls in them

don't need to be like that,

there are some girl violinist and singers that really has the image, and skills and the "thing"

but i have yet 2 see a girl guitar player that has it all, at least publicly,

but i think the future would give us a threat :yes:

I think it would be bullseye to have that in gnr and fit the image, gnr has always been about both image and well-gifted quality musicians and gnr could start things up with this,

She could be (yeah in my imagination :help: ) :hihi: more like a second star, like bucket was :peace:
i can't see a guy fulfill that seat :-\

and anyone who have seen gnr 02 should't be too homophopic, i'd appreciate a girl too :love:

i love female musicians and they rock like the bassist for drive by truckers but for Guns, i just don't see it!!
maybe a keyboardist but not guitarist....

Of course the most important part is that a musician can play. But, no, I wouldn?t want a female guitarplayer in Guns N?Roses. It's been about drinking, screwing girls, taking drugs, being paranoid. I like some female rockers, but not in this band.  Of course, it's up to Axl....If he wants it, well he gets it!

And in that case, I'm fine with it.

They're not that type of band anymore.

Maybe, but most fans are from that era, and when you tell them that some different guys are in the band, they can still deal with it.

You tell em there's a woman in the band, they'll think "what the fuck? this isn't guns n roses, We're all going to hell in a hand basket if guns n roses have a woman in the band"

It's not right, but it's what would happen.

@#$%Funker

A female gunner? No way, what so ever.

I see many people consider this an interesting idea, but I believe that's more a product of todays political correctness. A guy may not admit it, but a female in a male rock band is just laughable. Sure it may seem a bit 'cool', but that's more due to the fact that it's new and kind of controversial.

Don't you see the irony of a woman blasting riffs to You Could Be Mine or Sweet Child O Mine?

A female member? Wasn't Slash asked in a interview once if he'd let a female in his band? I think he said no... bcoz they'd stick together better if it were all guys... or something

Get a woman in and once everyone's had her, maybe they can destoy that band too ?

catwoman maybe?


back on topic
Not a girl just because it's a girl, but it would be really cool :headbanger:

I'd like to see that, badgirls rock : ok:

What about that chick who plays with MJ on Dirty Diana.. She looks like a rock n roll type of person, and she has the skills and everything, and she has experienced some succes, and are used to playin in front of large crowds...?

Na.. She was back on the latest album, Emotive. And did some tracks!

But back to topic!

If the female guitarist was damn good! It would rock! Better then the Bucketman....!

It has nothing to do with PC, man.? It has everything to do with drawing attention, however.? Besides Buckethead, I don't see any other male guitar player on Earth who could draw attention (both negative or positive).? Jeniffer Batten would stand out just like Slash and Buckethead.

again, why is it so laughable?

Those fans don't appreciate what Axl has done with the Guns N' Roses name.  They've since followed Velvet Revolver and their musical journey.

My point, they don't appreciate it but many will learn to live with it, especially if the music is good.

Add a woman, and they won't - it'll be a far greater departure from what GNR used to be, than just changing members.

There's a huge difference between those scenarios.

@#$%Funker

What are you talking about?

GNR isn't the same anymore.  You're telling me there are levels of GNR not being the same?

Those fans who don't appreciate what Axl had done with the name follow Velvet Revolver, not the new Guns N' Roses.  It's a whole new band with a whole new direction.  They will never accept that.

Girls are really great putting out an image, thats for sure

But we haven't seen anyone in, slash, jimi hendrix, buckethead etc-level in skills and and soundgoodness
have we?

 It would be so cool to have a girl in gnr addin to the presence,but i haven't seen or heard a guitarplayer that could fit yet :-\

Other instruments have i seen... :bow:

Is this what the GNR community has come to?  Debating whether there should be a girl gunner?  This is an all time low point in the post-original-band era.  When fans have nothing more to discuss than the hypothetical possibility that GNR could recruit a girl guitarist, then things have truly hit bottom in the nu-GNR world.

There has been a growing sense in this community that CD is not close to being released.  I sense it here and at mygnr.  More people every day are starting to realize that this thing is not any closer to seeing the light of day than it was 2 years ago when the tour failed.  Am I being paranoid, or are even the hard core optomists starting to see the reality of the situation? 

On topic, I would welcome a girl gunner if it meant we would have CD soon.  I would welcome a gay midget bongo player if it meant we could get CD soon.  This is starting to look hopeless at this point.  I hope that one of these days I'll come here and see some good news, but I have my doubts that will happen in 2004 or 2005.

We're not discussing that, it's how you would welcome the fact :)

Talk about an exaggeration ?::)

It's just an idea posted in a discussion forum. ?God forbid we discuss things in a discussion forum.

People, although the idea would be seductive, don't be fooled.

Have you never worked in an environment with all males and all of a sudden, 1 unique woman comes in to work ?

Well, first of all, someone is bound to shag her ( have sex with her), secondly, women being women, friendships between men will turn sour because of her " opinion" on everyone, thirdly, the two having sex ( her and whoever) could not turn up for rehearsals and shit, having better things to do ( if you see what i mean) and fourthly, men do not have periods. Women do. 1 week a month, every month, having to carefully watch out how one talks to her ? Nice work atmosphere if you ask me !

Never EVER bring 1 woman in an all male environment.

Thats an evil imagination...? ?

don't need to turn out that bad, their most mid 30's, and over, seen that and seems like profesionals

...many bands who have 1 girl only and are really good, check this: http://www.gaate.no/ny/video/folgjebetong/folgjestor.wmv

Not yet perhaps, but She will appear in the not-too-distant future future, in a young band like GNR of '87, which leads new musical movements n Makes a lil revolution in the common notions.   8)


Miss, You mean you have....
But some girls are bigger than others, aren't they? ::)

I haven?t heard of even a girl virtuoso guitarist existing let alone doing her band mates all.
Any example?  well OK,

Donuts 1:  Don?t fuck the band mates.

That was very honest. I guess you're right.

That's exactly what I am telling you. You think if you changed one member instead of all of them, that it would be the same?

If all the original band was there except Duff, you think people would think the same as they do now? Come on....

All in all:
Change band members = one level of change
Add a woman = another level of change

It may be down to people being sexist, or not liking the image for other reasons, but many fans will just not have a woman in the band although they will still listen to the current line up.

After all, people in this thread have said they don't want a woman in the band, but they are still here waiting for the new band to release an album.

@#$%Funker

Because many rock bands can be considered the incarnation of masochism. It would be like having a guy fronting a feminist fraction or a black guy fronting KKK.

I see what you're saying, but this GNR isn't the same GNR from the past.

That brings up another question...

Would people listen to Guns N' Roses if they had a female guitar player? or would they suddenly boycott GNR?

Actually, Many people in this thread have said they'd welcome or don't mind a woman player as far as she's damn good at it and relates with the band.
And also I find that fans who accept the new band tend not to buck the idea of a female guitarist.
(It's a damn good  topic.? ;))

Yes, the image of GNR has changed but I feel the spirit of the band remains the same. Or rather, it might be more definite now. ?
To my thought it?s about the freedom. It challenges the restraints from negative creeds And overcome.

The fans who were only after the image they got from old GNR ?have already left. Still some keep whining here n there. They never try to get below the surface with it. like Timmy said, They will never accept any level of alteration to the image from that of '93 or '96, as if they've stopped growing since those points. So why should one give a fuck?

Anyhow,?no worries. There're billions of other fishes on earth waiting for kickass music.?
They will listen to Guns N' Roses if they like the music.

If this fantasy girl could play, I'd be all for it. I wouldn't care if she's attractive. I wouldn't care if she stuck out from everyone else. I wouldn't care if she changed the image of the band a little (always a good thing), and I'm disappointed that so many other people on here *would* care... Bah. Kurt Cobain was right about GNR fans...

Kurt was a spineless, pathetic excuse for a man that got bossed around by Courtney.

Granted Axl was a little too far on the other end of the scale...

A few chairs thrown here and there is one thing.  But the cat-box?  C'mon Axl, that's just weeeiiird.  :nervous:

Huh?

Mi...so...gyn...ist?

Is that a bad thing?

Just because you haven't heard of her, doesn't mean she doesn't exist.  I've mentioned Jennifer Batten numerous times. 

NOW CHECK HER THE FUCK OUT!   : ok:

Links?

Lots of girl-musicans outhere : ok:

Hmmm, don't really see it happning, but would n't mind. As long as she's good enough...

My vote goes to Lisa Marx of Kittie. Don't want to break up Kittie as they are baddass! But she's is way hot and a real good player.

[/http://www.kittie.net/gallery.php?action=viewImage&id=107 (http://www.kittie.net/gallery.php?action=viewImage&id=107)

She is the blonde one on the right...

 : ok:

For my grandmother's sake, get Slash back!  :'(

If not, I'd see someone like Gail Ann Dorsey (ex NIN, act. in Bowie's band);
a talented beautiful black lady version solo guitar player ( dunno if she exists anyway....)
 : ok:

I can't believe reading crap like this!  Women's "role" in rock???  I'll tell you my role---to kick ur ideas to the trash (where you'd be rummiging thru the garbage!)
I can't belive such stone-age bullsh*t I'm reading here!
what a load of crap!
what's the big diffenernce if there was a woman in the band? for all you know buckethead may have been female!  (ha!)
give me a break--it's just that women are less likely to be accepted into the rock world.  Sure we have Janis Joplin, Courtney Love, Melissa A.D.M (who loves gnr by the way), Blondie, Joan Jett,....but not enough women lean towards the rock an' roll lifestyle such as taking drugs, partying it up in the garage while practicing with thier band, and being a drop out!  They're busy workin hard and earning $$!
GNR represent a "f*ck you" attitude...and a women can stand behind that belief just as a man can.
As for this whole, "the chick should look hot"---I agree, but then the rest of the current band members better get on that treadmill, lift those weights, and look hot along with her!
....it shouldn't matter what gender, colour, size, shape, etc. the new band member is---GNR was a mish-mash of ecclectic ppl brought together from all different backgrounds (Axl-white trash--sorry, but it's true---still love him), Duff (punk rocker with catholic upbringing), Slash (multi-cultural/artsy family) and thats what made them work!  So adding estrogen to mix may add another interesting influence!

fully comitted to her instrument and performance,

 she could kick serious ass : ok:

Having seen Ash support The Darkness at Wembley last night, I came to the conclusion that Charlotte Hatherley is a better singer and guitar player than Ash frontman Tim Hamilton. :o

And having heard her debut album 'Grey Will Fade' she is an awesome songwriter in her own right, with an album almost as trong as Tommy's 'Village Gorilla Head'. : ok:

Oh whatever!!!,  I was part of my Ex-husbands band throughout recording process and every other steps.  I was the only girl around...We had fun and the band thought I was great...Period or not...This is the most arrogant and immature thing I have heard this year!  Look at how many women work in a professional environment surrounded by men...  Grow up!

yeah, and we're also acting like someone who would have to be "in step" with this current line-up, let along gn'r in general, would be that fucking difficult!

You want me.  That's it, isn't it?  Don't deny it, hon.? It's bigger than the both of us.? :yes:



Do I really have to answer that for you?? Maybe it wouldn't make too much of a difference in a wuss band like, say, the Goo Goo Dolls.? But not Guns N' Fucking Roses.? :no:


I don't know a lot of girls named Brian.?

And if Bucket were a female, at that height, she wouldn't be playing guitar but getting paid $25,000 a year as the WNBA's top player. (ha!)? :hihi:



You're confused.? GN'R represented the "fuck you" attitude.? To gain any interest a woman artist usually must attract the "I want to fuck you" attitude.? : ok:


Axl: "Hey, babe, we're rehearsing in here!? Women's-Lib class is at the community college two miles down the road!"? :rant:


Good point.? And, hey, maybe GN'R can play clips of Terms of Endearment or Beaches at their next concert.? :D

you saw right through me honey!




I thought you loved the goo goo dolls---that's what your boyfriend said anyways!



I know a woman named Brian, "jo' moma!"



too bad no woman has those thoughts regarding yourself!? :hihi:



Community college?? Try again honey.




and what exactly is wrong with that anyways?? what were u expecting??? ???  Plus I heard you cried through those movies.

I wonder if there are any, that have done really good work, especially with solo's and stuff

I heard some great riffs and stuff, but have yet 2 hear something that blows me totally away

know any?

Then I wonder how bands like Nightwish, Within Temptation, Arch Enemy and Evanescense (oh well) can make it through.
Ladies related to GN'R? We should remember the supports in the Illussion Tours, Tracy (additional vocals) and some other cheeks with the horns.

agree, it seems there is no problems having that :yes:

but tracci and roberta where just additional musicans

Yeah, but there's no Axl Rose in these bands, right? It makes a lot of difference...

Axl causing problems....? 
You think Axl's some kind of freak?
Axl's professional and treats ladies well.  ;D

i could be a groupie then :friendly:
 :P