Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This is a great song, kinda scary, dangerous, nevroutic and potent and have all the twitches to it

but what is this song about?

death? is he singing pussy for the maggots or something else ???

can't wait to hear this as a studio version :peace:

SOrry to say that is my least favorite song, even my world beats this one.. I hope we never ever hear the likes of that song again.. Made me think of prodigy the first time I heard it and that's all I have to say about that.

Pussy full of maggots

I dont think the song was too bad in all fairness. I may be wrong but I reckon it may be very different by now it was a pretty early incarnation of it at Rio in 2001!

The prodigy are an absolutely fantastic group!

It's an ok song, not as good a raw GN'R song although ;)
it's on par with the average OMG song from End of Days if you aks me? ;)

It's the worst GN'R song ever, and one of the worst songs in the history of music.

although not my favorite song i like this song with its sudden changes from slow to fast the lyrics may not be great but the musical 'Mess' sounds great imo but i understand why people dont like it as it aint commercial.  :P

This is how I feel, if I want to hear prodigy type songs I will listent o prodigy, but I expect different when I hear gnr.. Hope that makes secne.. I hate industrial music, it has a fake element to it..

Fair play Mike, I wasnt knocking your opinion! I didnt really explain myself properly in my earlier post. I personally wouldnt be keen on Silkworms being on CD, it certainly wouldnt how I invisage Guns music new or old. All I was saying is that its not the worst song in the world and I imagine that 3 years on from Rio the song may be more developed now, cos it seemed pretty unfinished to me in that concert! I know what you mean about some Industrial music sounding kinda fake! But I certainly wouldnt say that about the Prodigy though. 

and with gnr you wan't appetite revisited? There's so much more availebale now that it was when oldgnr recorded their albums, silkworms is def. not for the mtv or the sellout biz, but it has this approach, it reminds a bit of the danger and mettality in double talking jive

same for "oh my god" or "my world". It is a question of musical style. Indus music doesn't work for GN'R. but hoppefully, there are other songs, more "normal" songs like the blues and madagascar.

I think Silkworms is a great song, it could well be one of the surprises of (one of) the next record(s).

Tough I have to admit: it was not the 'Rio-version' that convinced me, I found the 'Vegas-version' mindblowing.

I like the 'doomy-kinda' intro to the song and the tempo changes halfway through the song. ?I think of it as a short, hard, agressiver rocker.

It's definately something different from the other GNR-tunes and it makes curious to what else they have in store for us. : ok:

The second leans probably a little more to aggressive electronica with full guitars, where the first one is definitely more guitar-based.

 axl himself : ok:

Silkworm is a fantastic song! The new GNR prove that thay can make industrial METAL! Its a great song!  :beer:

my worst fear is hearing more songs like silk worms...it's not gnr at all.

Well, we dont know much about what Guns N Roses is! If u think they will make the same type of music az the old GNR did back in the days, well, then ur waiting for nothing!

Hardrock had some terrible albums in the 70's and 80's but it developed into a serious potent genre

most industrial or electronic rock i've heard has been terrible-

- but as with hardrock i think this genre is here to stay and develope, guns seems to have interest in this direction and i think they will do this genre more justice than previous bands

silkworms has a certain double talking jive direction i like, it's different but really cool an in all

varity rocks,

 as axl said: it will be a diverse record :peace:

Silk Worms is an awesome song. I love Axls voice and punch. The vegas version kicks the rio versions ass. Big time. I can only imagine a studio recording of the song. All th eosunds and everything must sound really cool. You get to hear most of the effects in the intro on the vegas version but im sure it doesnt compare to a studio version. The song has a lot of cool punk elements to it as well. I love the intro and when the band jams towards the end. Cool song...lyrics arent meant to change the world but there cool sleazy lyrics.

When I was talkin to Bumblefoot a few weeks back he asked me to send him the new gnr songs and when he told me about silk worms he siad it had a Pink Floyd vibe to it....

I agree. I am exited about the fact GNR are going to be pushing the envelope much more thanthe old band was willing to do. If you are still dissapointed that GNR isn`t going to be like the old band, doing all the aerosmith meets AC/DC sound, listen to the old stuff or go get Contraband.

VR is good, but not groundbreaking.

And Silkworms is an awesome song. Its not pop friendly, maybe thats why a lot of people don`t like it. It isn`t Sweet Child O` Mine.

Judging from the comments here, undoubtedly this is the very Imposing piece.
The excellent spirit of Adventure with a sense of Abstract (I guess you?ve never seen this phrase in other thread :P)

I may prefer this song with stronger kinda primitive Bass beats. Also an additional touch of coherence in the structure may help listeners digestion. The lyrics could be about the song itself?whoops!? :-X

Overall, I like this song.

I don't hear floyd anywhere in there, and I invision firestarter everytime I hear the song.. SOund effects and noise is what I'm hearing with axl's voice trying to be a tad different..

To each his own though, this is why people will enjoy cd, something for everyone..

I like "oh my god", but silkworms and rhiad.....maybe i just don't get them or maybe i haven't given them many options. i listened to them a long time ago but haven't heard them for a while.

Back then, axl had to defend sweet child since metal bands wasn't supposed to do that shit

Do you think it's the same thing here with silkworms and some of the new songs?

Or rather they don't work for you?

I like indutrial music, NIN is one of my favourite bands, but if I want to listen good industrial music, I'll take a NIN cd, if I want some good rock music, I'll pick up GN'R. There's no need for such a change, Silkworms is pure crap in the industrial style, too. SW is not bad, because it's not pop or mainstream (I like a lot of non-mainstream music), it's bad, because it's bad. I tried to listen the song for at least 20 times, but I just didn't like it. Some weeks ago I listened it again (HOB), and it was even worse than I remembered! If CD will contain that type of music, then it won't be an album for me, and I can predict that an SW style comeback will make Axl the biggest looser in the music history. But it won't happen, Axl had to realize that SW is pure crap, so he'll never release it.

In your opinion it's crap, but there are alot of people who like this song.

1. The board has 4116 members right now. It includes a lot of inactive members, and a lot of people are registered on other GN'R boards, too. I don't think that the sum of internet using GN'R fans would top 30,000.

2. Even if every internet fans like this song, it's not enough for Nu-GN'R.

3. I shoewd the Nu-GN'R songs to some of my friends, some of them are GN'R fans, some of them like only a few songs, some of them didn't like the old band. All of them said that SW is the worst song they had ever heard. Some of the older fans liked Madagascar and found The Blues and CD to be mediocre, but listenable songs. They hated the other ones (Rhiad, OMG). Believe me, the world 'is not ready' to accept a Silkworms type album. Not only from Axl, from any musician, cause it's really that bad.
I showed the song

who said silk worms was going to be gnrs comeback song?

what I want you to know is that an indus album is going to be a huge failure.

+1000. thank you, a realistic guy on this board like me.

If the wanna make an indus album and acheive that, then it will not be a failure : ok:

If they wanna be on top 40 for while, thats another discussion

As I stated in my earlier post (maybe you read that) I hope that Axl realized Silkworms is bad and it won't be on the album.
But because chineseblues said that some people like it, I made a new post mentioning that releasing this type of music doesn't make any good for Axl & Co. Read carefully.

Silkworms is just one indus song. the problem is to know how many "silkworms" Axl and/or the band have done. how many unecessary songs like that do we have to "discover"? it's good to write 70 or 80 songs, but if 90% of them are indus crap, they are totally unecessary.

for some people it seems :-\

Axl in Argentina, 2001:

R&P: Is your new material more industrial? We hear that it is not very similar to that of your old band.

Axl: It is not industrial, the closest thing to that was perhaps Oh My God, but there are some songs that won't be on the album that were this way. There will be all kinds of styles, many influences as blues, mixed in the songs. But not so much inspiration of Aerosmith or AC/DC that was used on Appetite. Buckethead, his first influence and the reason why he grabbed a guitar for the first time was Angus Young of AC/DC. Several of the boys love to play AC/DC. It is only we will play other styles. When we tried writing songs in the old style of Guns N' Roses, they sounded too old, they didn't sound so alive. We could not make that. And I think that that also passed with the old Guns N' Roses. The songs composed by the boys for another album many years ago, everything sounded old. Then we tried to explore to maintain the band alive.

Source: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=38

You're all overreacting.  :P

 Well? I hope u do know why the old GNR members left. They dident want to make indus. music! So.. If thats ur opinion, then i think ur gonne be let down by GNR new release!
And, because GNR are using ind. music, it dosent mean that they are going to me a new NIN or somthing like that! It means that they wanna make more power in theyr songs with industrial sound.. I dont know this, but i belive Silkworms, is a smal version of what kind of music GNR are going to make... Listen to Madagascar, and Chinese Democracy.. There are alot of ind. sound.

most of the new live tracks from GNR (chinese democ) are crap. Thoguh im still gonna get the album.

Terrible...

you could tell the song was in the works when the played it live but I dont think it will the album

im listening to the greatest hits album right now and ive never heard that one before. And theres a song i havnt heard properly before called "patience" and its a slow song , which i hate, but its so emotional i like it. 

I didnt really like silkworms at all its pretty wierd. I think the song needs to be developped more Because i think it sounds more like a demo. But anything new from Gn'r is okay with me.

What I'm saying is just because YOU dont like the song it doesnt mean that it's crap. I love it, i think it's a really cool song.

Remeber that you are comparing a live version to finished product.  If it comes out on Chinese Democracy and it sucks, I`ll agree with you.

These Silk Worms threads are so very similar to the My World threads

I like what MikeGuiliana said - "something for everyone"

what is the big deal if GN'R makes a song that you don't like...
for chrissakes - just tonight I read someone posted that they hate Estranged!  :o
LOL!

GN'R has always been diverse in their music.
November Rain was kicking around since the AFD days
and c'mon!  SCOM is on AFD... even though its so different from the rest of the tracks on AFD

the Illusions albums were also very diverse

And Axl has spoke about evolving and progressing the bands sound many times

Whether or not Silkworms is on CD... its an indication of things the band have worked on while working on the music for CD
It doesn't mean that any certain percentage per se is going to be like Silkworms... Just means that they have worked on a wide variety of sounds
This does not surprise me.
Axl said CD will be a melting pot. 
GN'R itself is a melting pot.

Why should they limit themselves to one certain sound?
They have the talent and creativity to do so much more than "yer straight rocker"!

anyway, I really like Silkworms very much.
I love some of the descriptions some of you posted.
My immediate impression of the song was that I was blown away...
The intro is just so out there...  spacey... kinda like its lifting you off the ground softly
then BAM they slam you right back down to the ground
The effects.. the gutiars... the vocals.. the lyrics...
Love... love... love... LOVE!

I hope we DO get a studio recording of this song.  : ok:

The work of Chris Pittman and Dizzy Reed.  :-\

1) I totally agree with you...until the last sentence.
2) "Axl had to realize that Silkworms is pure crap, so he'll never release it": come on if he played it, if he decided to sing it in front of 200.000 people in Rio, it's because he wanted it. In my opinion it was like a test. Something like "ok let's play that song and that kind of music (indus) and let's see the reaction": and the general reaction was absolutely terrible, Axl has to understand that with this kind of music he goes to failure. I hope he understood that when "my world" appeared. But he didn't. He has continued to write and to loose time on unecessary undus style songs. I can't believe "chinese democracy" is going to be an indus record, if it was, it would be a nightmare. a real nightmare. This is my biggest fear: to buy "chinese democracy" and to discover 14 or 15 indus tracks....even one would be a desapointement. do you listen to me? even one. I don't want him to repeat the same mistake he did on UYI 2 with "my world". UYI2 would have been considered as one of the greatest record of all time unless "my world". But that song destroyed the reputation of this record. How to ruin an entire album with the last track...what a mistake.

I agree and that's what I wanted to mean. I hope that HOB and RIR3 were tests for the new and 'diverse' material. He had to realize that the world isn't ready for that type of music except of about 30,000 hardcore Axl fans, but they'd buy anything he records, even if it's some kazoo music by his fart. (As some of you mentioned earlier that even Axl's last fart is more valuable than anything on Contraband.)

BTW I have no problems with My World. I consider it as a joke, although I know it wasn't. But you can tell a joke to the same people for only once, so let's forget about releasing SW.

Get used to songs like silkworms, omg they sure be some of them on the disc

A lot of others than "hardcore" fans gets into silkworms, it's an amazing song

then it's the scream at the end, hope they put this out as a studiotrack : ok:

i love this song! its great when u are pissed off!


what can i do ? with a bitch like u, u know that its true!  its awesome!

great lyrics and very raw! i love it!

first off, the music is brilliant in this song! some great synth and electronica. very atmospheric, kinda scary. ihope to hear a couple of tracks similiar to this on 'chinese democracy' however' i don't wish nor do i expect the whole album to be like this. Axl lyrics are ok, probably not the best song to play live without a studio version to back it up. but i very much doubt this song will be on the album cos as far as i know it wasn't played during the 2002 shows...so it may have been scrapped.

i hate the whole keyboard thing(above poster) i think he should get back to how he started get a excellent guitarist, and rock us for some more years.

i dont like the long stupid low volume special effect at the beginning but once the song starts going, it rocks.. i could scream those lyrics on top of my lungs anytime!

Hope he sings it aggresive on the studio track

it really goes in an upward loop, as when you are pissed, ranting and your voice gets more and more intense and ripping :rant:

 :)

I think the people that hate this song need to experience it live.  Front row in Vegas will change your mind forever about Silk Worms.  It was one of the best songs performed that night.  I'll never forget how much the band loved performing it, and it sounds nothing like the Rio bootleg.

has any one heard this new version of Silkworms?

http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=611B25EF415247356FC825B14688050E

it sound like a new studio clip to me!

Sounds like a Rio Live Clip to me.   ::)

The GNR community has not waited 11 years for Silk Worms quality songs. I think that says it all if that song makes CD.

Thats RIR3 for sure.  Just a little more synth through the first few seconds.

I like Silkworms. 
It's different from the other new songs we have heard. 
I'm excited to see all the different directions that the music is evolving.

 

Hey guys, i up "Sillk worms - Live Rock In Rio 3, the mp3".

This is the link.


http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/gnrdownloads/Guns_N__Roses_-_Silkworms_.mp3

And my site, is:


http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/gnrdownloads/index.html

+1.
Since the first day I have said that indus kind of music would be a faillure for an Axl/GN'R come back, and I have never changed my mind and will never change it because I'm convinced that Indus Music is not what Guns n' Roses needs. Modernizing the sound, yes ok no problem, it is necessary because we are not in 1987 or 1991 anymore, Madagascar is the perfect exemple of what would be good, and silkworms the perfect exemple of what would be bad for "chinese democracy". There is a big difference between modernizing your sound, modernizing your music, and make indus music. Indus music is way to extreme. Now it's Axl's band, if Axl wants to make indus this is his right, but I hope he won't be surprised if nobody buy the record and iF it turns into a huge failure because it sounds indus. That's not good music quality. he can wait ,10,15 or 20 years, bad music will always be bad music. That's as simple as that. and Silkworms is bad music. It happens that's not a crime! you can be one of the most talented musician and sometimes make bad music. The most important is not to make it again. The most important is to avoid to make another ones. And Indus is not the good direction. I hope Geffen Record also told him that? and made him understand that.

idustrial has unheard potential imo

if someone could do justice to this genre i think gnr would be the right band

i don't wan't a industrial record either, but i'd like to see this band playing the fuck out out such songs om some tracks :peace:

I think we get your point now nesquick, no need to repeat that in every damn thread under the sun  ::)

  Songs like Silkworms, though fun and indicative of talent, will be the death of GNR's mainstream relevance.  Plain and simple!!!!  San Demas high school football rocks!!!

The song sucks! I heard the Rio III-version and its really bad. I don?t think Axl has anything to do with it. Does he? I think I heard him say that it was Dizzy and some other guys song.-

that songs sucks.. the lyrics are unimaginative... that shit is awfull even for an industrial song that shit sucks... "Fucking little schemer got your self a broken heart!!" god how long did it take him to write this shit?? fucking awful song if you want to call it a song that shames the name Guns n Roses.. 

I really like this song.  It's a definate twist to all other GNR.  How can people say that it is the worst GNR song ever when it hasn't even been on an album yet?  Axl wouldn't be Axl and GNR wouldn't be GNR if they didn't take chances.

You guys need to give this piece a chance. 

The Dude's 2 cents on Silkworms...

An experimental track.  Nothing more.