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VELVET REVOLVER: Tensions On The Road Run High







VELVET REVOLVER guitarist Dave Kushner recently told Entertainment Weekly (EW.com) that the group's decision to do away with their drug-fueled lifestyle of the past doesn't necessarily equal stability. "You don't need drugs and alcohol to have drama," said Kushner. "Sometimes the absence of it makes it worse. You've got five big egos, you've got testosterone, and there's not a lot of solutions out here on the road." Tensions have been running high on the group's current U.S. tour. Singer Scott Weiland is mad at drummer Matt Sorum and his appetite for groupies. At every venue, the crew sets up a "Vibe Room"with tapestries on the wall and mellow lighting and comfy chairsfor the band to relax in after a show. Sorum, sick of hanging out with a bunch of married guys, created an alternate space, a party room dubbed the Velvet Lounge. "He just wants to proliferate his own image," fumed Weiland to the rest of the band, "but it's degrading porno orgy shit! What are our wives going to think when they go backstage and there's boobs everywhere?" Sorum, for his part, is still irritated about Weiland's posting a long rant in support of John Kerry on the band's website. "Scott got something up his ass that day, so he put something on our website," he says. "We don't have to fucking put our political views on other people."

"Those two cause the most drama," sighed one crew member. "It's like having two lead singers." They're the ones who will pitch a fit about an early flight or the lint on a hotel room rug. Meanwhile, Kushner, who was on unemployment before VELVET REVOLVER signed their record deal, can barely bring himself to splurge on room service. "Part of you has to realize that it could end tomorrow," he said over a lunch of two Dunkin' Donuts. "If I spend like a jerk, I'm going to end up a broke jerk." Still, Kushner is trying to enjoy the ride while it lasts. "When Scott was having his chemical misadventures, a friend told me, 'You know, dude, you're in a rock band. If you want a safe and steady job, go pound nails for a living.'"
 

 

Source(s): www.roadrunnerrecords.com...mouth.net/

What's the problem if he has a seperate room for his lust?? SOunds like scott is being a typical person who is now clean and becomes bitter towards guys who still live a semi decadent lifestyle..

I bet he's just pissed because he's married and can't enjoy..

no actually Scott is right. Because all the guys are married and I'm sure all have the same problem with Matt Sorum and his orgies every night with 18year olds.

I would probably do that too if I was a rock star but not when I'm 44. I think I would be settled down by then as most people do.

The same news were posted to another topic.

There's the first mistake, all the guys aren't married.. If matt's in his seprate room getting laid then let it be, these are the same people who did the same things.. Not everyone changes because they are older.. The man is single, let him be..

Also most wives or rockstars should come to know these types of things.. A little T&A at a rock star isn't suprising..

orgys are fun. go matt. :d

i can see why scott is complaning. i guess the temptation is to high... but then again i always thought scott was more into 18 year old boys than girls.

and it's good to see they don't need an Axl Rose in the Band to have problems.
just the other day matt was saying how scott was the best frontman he has ever worked with. when matt gets fired or the band breaks up, i want to see how long will it take for matt to see scott has fallen from grace.
they're a band fr little over 2 years and already they can't stand each other.
i can't say i don't enjoy this at some level. they disearve it for bad mouthing axl for everything that went wrong in gnr. now they say they have the perfect band. but then again. there's trouble in paradise .
to bad for dave, he's the one that really needs this band to work out. he's not a millionaire like the rest of the guys.

It's good to see you in the VR section  : ok:

mean bone you sound like a drama queen, how do you know tensions are so high and they hate eachother?? Not liking political views and not liking a guy who has sex with groupies has nothing to do with teh band's creativity... ?

It's just something they dislike about what they are doing outside of the band.. ?There's no problem involving music or things of that nature, these are outside issues..

Oh they knock axl, poor baby, maybe if he wasn't so bizarre he wouldn't get knocked, and who is anyone to say he was easy to work with? It's different when a band goes from playing killer rocks n ballads like afd to a axl show with millions in videos, bloated with horns n female backup singers and huge selfindulgent songs ,walking off stage, not showing up for shows, now that's an ego..

Now that's an ego, these are just disagreements.. If you read scott's interviews he says these things fuel the abnd, like a marriage just because you diagreed doesn't mean it will end in divorce..

I bet you are someone that gets pissed if they say something about axl, but yet you're the first to say I'd be happy if they broke up because they made fun of axl..

I hope some of you saying such childish things aren't that old..

Anyways you'd ahve to be a fool (not you in general) to think these guys all don't have an ego to a point, this is nothing suprising.. Lookat the bands they came from.. Either way they have all spoke high of eachother as players, they don't need to agree with everything eachother does outside the studio..
As for the scott thing he's no different then jagger n bowie on stage, plus it always amazes me how someone who loves axl can call another singer gay, have you seen axl's outfits n makeup..?

I don'tr think either are gay, they just have their own style and stage dancing..

MB, I thought I would post this for you from a person who saw vr in canada last night

What can I say?? Velvet Revolver ROCKS!!!!! What an awesome show!!!! Was a little pissed about the wait, but it was well worth it!!! I'm literally speechless!!!

Went down to The Edge. Scott, Slash, Dave & Duff were really nice signing stuff and having pictures taken with fans. My son got his picture taken with Duff, he's freaked! He got to meet Slash his IDOL!!! Think he'll be on a VR high for the next few days. 

Have to make mention of Emmers (nice to meet you!) She drew two pencil sketches of Dave & Scott. Dave was really impressed! Emmers, you did an amazing job!!!


Point is they are together and every band has it's problems..
Hope everyone rocked the joint like I did!!! No Right, you would have been proud 

Can't wait for the next VR show!

Meanbone has some points there.

All these years we've heard the stories about how horrible it was in GN'R and yet it seems like this band that's like "a gang" are fighting too.

Axl was an egoist because he wanted his own dressing room, well look at how VR are doing it. One guy wants his "groupie" room.



/jarmo

The dressing room shit is so petty, I would care less.. Matt wants to party and the other guys, or scott might not like it so now he's out of their hair..

I still don't get what the gay comments have to do with anything..

Every interview I read everyone is loving the band, they just had some petty issues.. If the world din't change into a bunch of old cunts reporting every peep we wouldn't see this lame shit.. Every spoken word is analyzed six fold around the forums, it doesn't mean things are that terrible..

Well they'll be on conan tomorrow so we'll see how they act.. A person who gives agood interview would tackle these issues..

I can't see where it says Matt's doing the nasty in his 'Velvet Lounge' thing. It just sounds to me like Scott wants to chill after a show with a nonalcoholic beer, and Matt wants to chill with groupies. Jeez, look at Zeppelin. Jimmy Page was groupie-groper par excellence. Just because one guy wants to do his own thing, doesn't mean the band's suddenly on the verge of collapse. That said, I  see what Matt's saying with the 'Vote Kerry' thing. Scott shouldn't have put that on the band website. He should've sent it to blabbermouth or whatever if he wanted to make a point, but not on the band's site.

Besides, would you still like them if they group-hugged after a gig, then went home to bed with a cup of cocoa and a good book?  ;D

i met VR too, and i enjoy their album, and what their doing. i wouldn't be the happiest guy alive if they broke up, but if they did for tensions in the group in a couple of years it would be funny for me. they're always talking how axl is this and that. and how their band is so much better. well. newsflash if you want it to work you gotta make it work. and even here in Lisbon Scott was having a bad day cuz all the band was sortta angry at him or disapointed. couldn't really tell. the girl that worked for their record company and was with the band all time and arranged the meeting for us VR fans called me in from the Hotel where she was staying with the band saying the band was ready but scott was heaving some sort of meltdown and wasn't getting out of the room and she didn't even know if they could meet up with the fans anymore since the band was upset with scott. i could actually hear the screams over the phone. the band got to the soundcheck 1 hour later with no scott. couldn't say i was sorry cuz it was never in my agenda to meet him, but 2 guys there were heart broken cuz they were scott's fans. when VR came up, slash appoligized for scott and so did duff. they said he wasn't "feeling" well . whatever. i didn't even care as long as he showed up for the gig. all i know is that the promoters were having a really bad day with scott. and right then i thought  he wasn't all that different from the Axl they all complained. well for what it's worth i'm more like dave. enjoy it while you can. i, personnaly, don't think it will last.
i can be wrong and one incident like the one in lisbon can't put an end to a band. but if they keep on coming i'll like to wait and see.

as for the gn'r getting bloated- yeah that was Axl's thing. cuz teddy isn't Slash's big friend. and slash didn't say all the time how he enjoyed the 8 guys in the band and backup singers. as far as i see it they only show interest in what's happening in the present. when it's behind their back they'll all say they hated it- just like Matt saying in Bheind the music special he didn't sighn up for a band with a piano and all the other stuff going on on the UIY tour. well. that just shows how much of an idiot Axl had to put up with.  he's basicly saying in the making of November Rain how the band is at it's best moment and how happy a thrilled he is to be part of it. now he's in VR so he can say bad things about gn'r or actually speak what was on his mind all the time. either way i still see him as a bad person to have in a band.

mean bone I agree, I haven't documented everything they said, but people do say how they truely feel after the facts.. I've worked with people and had pleasant things to say to keep the peace when I wasn't happy, but later when all was said and done I spoke how I truly felt because there wasn't any reprucussions..

I really believe the guys like axl, they did say he was an amazing frontman in btm, and slash has said he likes him as a human being.. That's not abnormal, we like a person in genral but not to work with.. People change when business is involved..

SOmetimes though I think vr has no intensions of mentioning axl but they get asked by every interviewer.. Everyone has to admitt that they get frequent questions about gnr n axl, shame that axl can't answer the question himself..

It is what it is my man, as long as they just go about their business I wouldn't worry mushc, every group has their spats.. 5 guys can't gell every minute of the day anbd people always get on other's nerves, and everyone can't agree with the music..
I just think things are taken way to serious, every word out of someone's mouth is so over analyzed/..

Good points MB...

Didn't axl once say that the old guys didn't want to play those ballads from a newer show onstage..?

wow, there are problems in a band!  :nervous: It doesn't happen with other bands, does it?

For beginners: there are problems in every band. It's not easy to live with others for a long time, and the guys have different personalities.

And there are problems with the frontman! Oh no! Show me one successful frontman who is not a d.head to live with.

But there is a big difference between  GN'R and VR: VR shows up for the gigs and doesn't miss one because of 'flu'.

They will surely break up someday, that's how things work.

They did miss a texas show because scott had broncitis, but it was made up in october when they came back from europe..

"They did miss a texas show because scott had broncitis, but it was made up in october when they came back from europe.."

Yep...that's the difference : ok: Axl has issues making it to shows, let alone making them up

who isn't married? Douglas Grean?
Slash is, Duff is, Scott is and Dave just got married

i think your assumptions are ridiculous.

to me, it proves that matt and the rest of the crew are pretty normal guys. and that DESPITE the fights they are going through, they still consider scott the best frontman ever.

so it proves that their expectations are not unreasonable. and that they understand that if you spend that much time with anyone, you're gonna have fights.

in fact, a true measure of a great friend is being able to fight with them.

and it's obvious to me that they do not hate each other at all. just some petty shit that's getting on each other's nerves. totally expected. 

I was kind of joking because you said EVERYONE is married and I was refering to matt.. So everyone isn't married and you can't get pissed at him for being a typical rocker after a show..

and thank you, matt, for speaking against that assinine kerry rant by scott!! ?: ok:

am i getting a vibe that VR will break up? perhaps a reunion tour might be in the future? that would be nice

All we hear Scott rant about in his lil diary of his is how he and his band are the most dangerous sleazy dangerous rock band in the world. Yet hes crying about a fellow bandmate having naked girls walk around. Am I missing something?

Scott keep your fukin mouth shut. Same with vr everytime they open their mouth they contradict themselves. Just play the tunes and whatver comes out of that is what you are. Please stop forcing this message/image down our throat when you arent living up to it.

No, he doesnt.  Good points, anyway...


Theres been "fights" like this since the bands inception...theyre a band, and unlike some bands, theyre actually out there together touring, city to city, country to country.  So yes, theres inevitably going to be some problems.  Do you honestly think that makes them any less tight of a band?  So bands can only consider themselves close if they never have problems? 

Well then fuck the Gallagher brothers...They not only say theyre like family, they claim to be family!  But they fight all the time?  What liars!

What makes them "a gang," or a family, is that at the end of the day, they overcome the bullshit, gather around to watch DVDs, and laugh together (which can be found in the EW article that inspired this blurb, but is something the likes of younggunner would like to ignore, since it contradicts the general negativity he would like to dwell on).


See, now youre being dishonest, because you know Axl wasnt called an egotist just for wanting his own dressing room...Come on.

yes i do

Because they had a spat over some dislikes?? Every band does these things, but that doesn't mean a thing..  When they hit the stage it's all business, they do everything anyone could ever want in a group(tour the countries, give videos n singles, a cool album, b sides, dvd slarted for march..)
It's just now everyone goes over every spoken woprd with a fine tooth comb..

One of the biggest rock groups in aersomith have had their problems but just move on and be a band, no one can get along all the time..,. Even the most perfect couple in the world argues..

Of course Booker is here to tell how great everything is in the VR camp.  ;)


You don't think that when people are pissed off at each other that it might cause some problems?

You know, I read that STP broke up after a fist fight or something.

Watch out Matt, here comes a megaphone. ;)


/jarmo

Yeah that was the final straw with the fist fight, but those guys were together since at least 92.. ANy group can break up, it's just how you deal with the problems..

Who are you to tell anyone else to shut the fuck up?  You cant bitch about his life and behaviour but he can't have his own opinion on things?  It does not work like that - you don't have to read or listen to a word he or they say, But you choose to be interested and you choose to hear and read. 

He knows what he's talking about he's lived life in music - the ups and downs.  He's now at a point where he can reflect and decide what he wants , what he likes  ect.  Thats what life is about isn't it? So if you do happen to read contradictions it could be perhaps that they have changed their opinion, they have looked from a different state of mind. 

If you have been in bands, you will know it takes alot of effort at times to get everyone one the same page and mindset.  And you alway will have little things you argue about because everyone is different.  But that's life aint it? just normal life.   When your stuck in a bus or a van living on the road with like 4 other guys, you do get little niggles.  It doesn't detract from their work though does it?

fuck, i hope they break up. and STP comes back, i would WAY rather have just one more STP album then another 20 velvet revolver albums...

Then VH1 can do a "bands reunited : Guns N' Roses" WITH Adler on drums.

 :smoking:

That's a stupid thing to say/. It's like saying hope new gnr breaks up to bring back the old, it's the past this is the present..
Maybe one day they will all reuntie with their first bands..

sorry - i guess i should have said that the "bands reunited" thing was a JOKE. man people are sensitive on here...oh don't say that! :-X i dunno if you have watched, but they tried to reunite the new kids on the block...that to me, is funny. but i know im probably offending someone on here just for saing that...ffs

but as for wanting another STP album over a VR album - that is truth - VR will never have songs like "adhesive" or "still remains" contraband doesn't come close to being as good as any STP album.

I saw that too, I never know who's being srious or joking... My mistake..  SOme people might be like adler should rejoin the old gunners..

Its not about having his own opinions. Its that he talks a big game but isnt the game. He says he and his band are "x" Whent they have done nothing that reprsent what he and his band says. Therefore I am aloud to say Scott shut the fuk up already

yes, and then im allowed to form an opinion based on what they say and what they do and reach a conclusion.

I'm thinking Duff has been the most vocal with the "danger" hoo-ey, not sure what your speaking of with the "everytime they open their mouth they contradict themselves" remark.

One thing I will attest to, the 2 shows I've personally seen have been the most violent shows I've been to in years.? I don't buy the "dangerous" self labeling by any means although their music in a live setting definately brings a more ominous crowd than your average Coldplay gig...
 

Is that what I did?  Im only referring to the EW article that inspired this discussion, except Im not conveniently leaving out key pieces of information like yourself and younggunner.

Oh well...I understand, its a lot easier to make a comment like that than to respond to what I posted. :-\


Lets go back a few posts and see what I said...


 :o

Problems like these are generally caused because people are pissed off at each other...does that mean that they dislike each other or arent close?? Well, Ill direct you to my last post since you seem to have missed it the first time.


 ???

The point?

It was a joke, hence the ;) smiley.


I just wonder what they do, just bitch about stuff or are they gonna force the others to adjust to what the majority wants? If four others say Matt's room has got to go, will he say "fine"?

Same thing with Scott's "rants" on the site. What if the three others decide those aren't needed?


/jarmo

I understand, but I also think youre kidding on the square (which means youre not kidding at all).? I think that in a discussion like this, which came from that EW article, its very misleading, and even dishonest, to not draw a little bit of attention to the end of the article.? Maybe you understand, but I dont think others do.? So Im really not here to tell everyone how great VR gets along, Im simply telling the truth (or at least the truth according to that article).?



No clue...However, my main point is that its possible to have these problems and still consider yourself part of "a gang," or even a family.

Yeah, the old GN'R was like a family too. They were brothers remember?

Or maybe it's just part of the plan of being a dangerous band. ;)




/jarmo

admitting u fall asleep with a book on your chest?

now that is dangerous! : ok: :hihi:

I don't understand why you're comparing these fights to what happened in GNR. Fighting is a part of road life so I'm not sure where you're aiming at. It's an entirely different situation.

As lame as I think a "groupie room" is, I don't think that is the same situation either. Considering the other members are married and have families, its more of a  respectul thing for Matt to have a seperate room for his activities. 

I just don't see why this is news. Bands fight on the road. It happens all the time.

and the Axl comparisons continue.

from rockdirt:

Entertainment Weekly's Karen Valby hung out with the guys from Velvet Revolver on the road while on tour, but had troubles getting much out of frontman Scott Weiland, who doesn't do sound checks, meet and greets, and stays up alone most nights watching movies until 5 a.m. Asking the former Stone Temple Pilots frontman "What did you do today" prompted him to respond, "I did the same thing I usually do, which is just about nothing. Sit in my room... masturbate occasionally..." But he later managed to open up, talking about his drug troubles and his suspicion of the music industry. "It's easy to get trapped in that mode of being a quote-unquote rock star," Weiland said. "The industry wants you to stay young, you're living this fast life, everything's accesible. The rock & roll industry is built on junkies just like me. Look at this band -- we're a band of junkies, thieves, and vagabonds. The only difference is, we've figured out a way to grab ahold of ourselves and say enough's enough.

Was this taken right out of the of the GNR BTM?

i dunno about the watching movies part. but the first two happened when i saw them...
it could be nothing. it could be the begining of something. who knows.
time will tell if izzys words will make sense once again.
once there was this rock n roll band rolling on the streets, time went by as it became a joke...

You have some sort of smiley in every post don't you???

Bands fight all the time. There is no bnad that doesn't.  I have a few different point of views on this. I think Scott is a bitch if naked girls really bother him backstage at a rock show. That is why Matt made a seperate room for that shit. On the otherhand , I never really liked Matt's drumming and I think he is a tool and was when he was with GnR too.  GnR would have been better without him and so would VR.

Matt should not being having sex with a bunch of eigthteen year old groupies and I have two reasons, One is he can go to jail for that and two he has a girlfriend ::)

Why would that be?


 :hihi:

because of those girls are probably pretending to be eighteen year olds and lie about their age ::)

Well Im guessing hes done it during his entire career, and hes still a free man.  I wouldnt worry about him.

he is a big time player : ok: