Here Today... Gone To Hell!

NOV. 2 UPDATE FROM TOMMY:

Hey All,
Finally home from round one of the Village Gorilla Head Tour. Whoa! I had way too much fun. I want to thank all of you for coming out and supporting the tour. Alien Crime Syndicate proved to be the best idea I've had in a long time. We had some great moments. Especially in the U.K. Looks like I'll take a little break, well at least til Monday, then I'll go into a rehearsal room and try to come up with some more tunes for a b-side I'll be putting out with a single and a video in the new year. Also I've already started to put together some dates for January and February in the states and the U.K. I'll put the dates up as soon as I confirm them. I heard that the rock station in Stockholm added my record to the play list.....Yeah me! That is one hell of a town. I had a great show there too. Just added a show at the Khyber Pass in Philly on the 8th of Dec.

Later,
Tommy

DATE CITY VENUE DETAILS
Dec 8 Philadelphia, PA Khyber Pass w/ FULL BAND
Dec 9 New York, NY Irving Plaza w/ Jesse Malin
FULL BAND
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Seems like he has no plans with GNR in the next 3-4 month...

I dont think this is a good sign...? :no:

I was thinking the same thing... what a downer!

Oh My God, The Khyber...oh that will be sweet!!! That place is tiny, tiny....I'm going...thanks mr. tom-tom : ok:

bad news for GN'R... ::)

Same shit, different day.

Let's recap:

Guns n' Roses 'band' members

Axl = hermit. only recording since '99 is for a goofy gta game. won't talk to, respond, or acknowledge his fans.
Richard Fortus = disappeared from face of the Earth.
Robin Finck = likewise.
Dizzy Reid = on tour elsewhere.
Buckethead = gone. searching for a replacement, who the fuck knows?
Tommy Stinson = is on tour solo in February, when ChinDem is laughably 'proposed for release'
Brain = says he hates the band's classic songs, says he's only in it for the money, is on tour with a former member who hates the band.

In what way is this a band?

Don't get me wrong, I love the new band's sound, and I love the new songs. But it's been 5 years. Get it the fuck together guys.  :no: :nervous: :'(

well, im wasting too mush time in here....! So.. i may soon be gone! So many other bands too focus on!

for fuck's sake guys, stop the bitching!!!! like the search result on google said, we are expected to hear some news in february about cd, what is wrong with tommy touring until that happens?? I'd rather have allot of solo stuff while axl is wrapping this whole monster up, than nothing...  : ok: this thing is all axl, no wonder the other guys are out rocking just like they want to...

so basically, no one can call this bad news for gn'r and get away with it... but then again, there are still people hoping for a november release so anything is possible  :hihi:. it's a little embarrassing, but last year i sat around thinking cd would be out last november... at least i have learned somethings... don't believe gn'r rumours and don't dig to too deep into the hired guns solo plans.... when there's news we'll get it first, no worries, like prooven so many times over the past years!

we can forget 2005..... maybe 2006

I love how the diehards will find a way to try and spin this into something positive when there is no way we can see an album in Feb if Tommy is planning tour dates. Remember all the promo the VR guys had to do when their album came out, the same will be expected of New GNR. Its kind of hard to promote when you're on the road promoting your own solo album.

This whole situation is comical. I just don't understand how the record can't be done. Only thing I can surmise is they are re-recording all of Bucket's crap because Axl can't bring himself to pay royalties to someone no longer in the band regardless of how good his stuff is. His ego is too big.

yeah, for some reason year 2005 only have two moths so i guess your right.........

I don't know why I'm not having as hard a time waiting for Chinese Democracy as some of you. If the record comes out soon, that's awesome. If it doesn't, it's still cool. I've been a GNR fan practically all my life, and the progress of CD has little effect on that. Besides, out of the 30 gigabytes of GNR I have on my computer, I still have a few live shows I haven't even seen yet  : ok:

.and other ten months? More  Dizzy tourdates ? More Tommy stinson interviews about "final mixes"  ? Wake up. man !

looks like I'm gonna kill myself after all.

just because he has plans in jan/feb doesnt mean we wont get the album. I totally agree it doesnt look promising but GNr might release the album first then go on tour in the sprin and summer and never come back till next yr....

If the album is out by February we should all make a friendly protest i have in mind...not demanding the album simply what the fuck is up

You can't blame all of the session musicians axl hired for wanting to do something besides wait. I was pist when Bucket left the group.... but as this thing drags on it becomes more clear. Bucket was sick of fucking around and needed to do something more creative than taking orders and waiting on Axl to overcome his demons. Look, I think the album will be amazing and the "session" musicians who are working on it are all great but the longer they have to wait on axl the more likely they are to say fuck it and jump ship like fuckethead did.

We'll see....

Haha... I said something like this would happen a month ago when everyone was talkin about the Feb. release. ChinD wont be out until Axl says so. And when will that be? I dont even think god knows, so until that time everyone should ignore all rumors.

And what do you guys think will happen in Feb? Axl will crawl outta his hole, and say two things to MTV. "ChinD will be great, the band is great and i've never seen a group work so hard in my life, its a long long process. Keep waiting it will be out soon!"


that is all

Good for him, seems like he's enjoying his solo gig.

On the other hand, we can dream on for an early 2005 album release/ tour. I guess our next bet would be summer/ fall 2005 then...?

The thing is, yeah, the album could come out in February while Tommy is on tour. It would be a frigging stupid way of doing it, though. Sure, it could come out in Feb, Axl could do a promo tour of interviews on tv and radio and mags, and then the band could reconvene in March/April for a tour. But this is Guns N' Roses, and I think we've all being stung enough times to know that this isn't going to happen. The best case scenario never happens.

Tommy said a couple of months ago that he had to check in with the GNR camp to find out if he was cool to tour solo in February. If he's now booking dates, this means he has checked with Axl and been told his services aren't required in February. Or before. And even if a tour was to follow in Spring, no band, not even Guns would be suicidal enough to drop the album while people are off hawking their solo shit, good shit though it may be.

Wonder what track the single and video will be.

Plenty of great tracks to choose from.




/jarmo

I read that earlier on blabber mouth, I thought he was goping to check back before making plans?? Guess he did and like every year it's a no go.. The guy is away from gnr for months at a time, and he says how out of the loop he is, yet he has no problem working on his solo stuff every month for the past half year or so..

I really wish Axl had guested on VGH. Would have boosted Tommy's sales, and would have surely been a better use of his time than GTA.

Home Without A View or OK would be my choices for single. I'd love a Dylan cover for the b-side, 'Boots of Spanish Leather' would be great.

Brain = says he hates the band's classic songs, says he's only in it for the money, is on tour with a former member who hates the band.


When was this said? Just curious.

I read things like that through fan interviews.. I don't know if tehy were allf rom fans, but I know some are..

Look around on the board, trust me you won't have to look far. There's a discussion going on about it as we speak, though the comment was made months ago. Like everything else in GNRWorld, it's hearsay.

"Looks like I'll take a little break, well at least til Monday, then I'll go into a rehearsal room and try to come up with some more tunes for a b-side I'll be putting out with a single and a video in the new year. Also I've already started to put together some dates for January and February in the states and the U.K."


I read this as all good. CD is done and there is nothing else to do on it   : ok:  Towards the end of February Tommy's little tour will be over and CD will be released and plans for the next GN'R tour will unfold   :beer:

It looks like??? hmmm, maybe thats because he is going to GNR camp for a week? Humm!

well, this indicates, that CD won't come in february. i never thought that if they shoot for a month, in this month there will be the single and afterwards the album. so i guess february is still ON. (if it ever was, of course).

When he was on the radio in Sweden, he said it would probably be "Not a moment too soon". To be honest, it's not my favourite track, but it's catchy enough, it could work I guess  ;)

I don't know why everyone seems so disapointed ... that's exactly what he told the fans in Europe ... But too bad for the time being no dates in France  ;D ;)

No, he said he had to get back to them ( GNR) and find out what was happening with CD. If, and only if, CD didn't interfere, he would tour in Jan and Feb. Well, it looks like CD won't interfere so Tommy will go on tour in Jan and Feb.

Also, his single, video, more promo...it all leads to the conclussion that GNR's engine has not started yet, nor it will anytime soon ( Spring the earliest)

I know Tommy's website is dedicated to him and his solo efforts, but he should've posted something regarding GNR as well. I'm sure most of his fans were/are not too pleased with his update.

Mysteron, any idea if Tommy's touring plans have anything to do with another delay in the GNR camp then?

hmm, got it this way, if CD is goin to be released in November, then he wouldent Tour Jan/Feb. But if it would be Feb. Release, then he would tour!

Great! :D I look forward to seeing Tommy?s video.
I?m not sure whether those fans need to improve their listening comprehensions or the other fans do their reading comprehensions (oh and of course me, my writing skill :hihi:).

How come "fans?" can state negative things of such dim memories as facts is simply beyond me.? ? ? ? ? ?

 

yeah man, i'm awake and your totaly right... what i was trying to say is that it's cool to see the gn'r members out and about, they would never be out on their own if there was something happening with gn'r and if it's true that cd is done,  then they can all tour till the day the record is released no problem... i'm just not into the bitchin'  :hihi:

This means that Tommy will at last contact G&R camp, right. Also, as I undrstand , tour dates are NOT yet confirmed.....Anyways ..we need integrity...as always  ::)

Peace  :peace:

CD comes out when it's ready...Meanwhile I'm gonna practice on licking my own ass ang give me self som head :hihi:

I REALLY LOVE THE FACT THAT BRAIN IS TOURING WITH A PAST MEMBER WHICH USED GNR TO GET A CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!!

why can't they do both? i think that they won't book a big tour before new material is released, maybe they do single shows here and there which give the members plenty of time to do what they wan't so if there is gnr plans before feb it's time enough to combine this stuff for the members, even a single or cd release

a promo tour is one way to promote (which don't need many guys) or tv ads like GH.

@Conny: IMO there are already enough sections, even too much for my taste.

but maybe ppl should be more specific about their thread titles.

I think people complain because cd has been known about since 99 and we still haven't heard a studio track (beside oh my god) and it's almost the year 2005.I for one just want to have some good news, ever since 2002 nothing has been positive, and there are countless solo efforts and not one album yet..

I for one am not interested in tommy's solo career or him extending his solo tour, I just want positive gnr news..

yes, when tsi came out i just, come on give some more really quality stuff (cux i only like 2-3 song on that album)
But i think the members can do solo stuff at the same time of the CD or single release

it's on this page somwhere that he says axl supports members to do their solo projects i thinks

  I liked the SI, but it was also after years of touring and four top 5 albums countless videos and everything else one could want from a group,, plus I like most though it was just something to hold the fan over.. In 93-94 I got newsletters from gnr's fan club saying how they were working on an album so be patient..

This is just crazy now, it's going on over 5 years already.. I just can't see why so many solo projects need to be done when there';s so much stuff to start with the band they joined, the one that is/should be their primary focus..

Maybe these guys are enjoying being able to do their own things and could care less if it ever comes out..?

hmm... musicians ::) always workin on different stuff
great to see tommy though

He supports that, he supports not living your life for the album and everything else.. As long as everyone is happy doing something else he can hold off till whenever he wants.. TO bad these guys are hired phoning in because if they weren't and didn't have these side projects they would be pissed at how long everything is taking..

When people become satisfied they lose their drive..

When people become satisfied they lose their drive..

agree, a lot of the gnr songs seems to come from such a wildhearted place

For me my favorite stuff is from afd, they wore their lives iont ehir sleeve and their music was from the heart ,almost like a autobiography in rock..
All I meant is that axl is rich, hew has everything he would ever need in life, there isn't an urgency to release material, gnr did their thing already.. So one could lose their drive to get the stuff out to the public ,when he was poor and living with the other 4 guys on the strip there was urgency..

His band mates are somewhat secure with money, and they have other things going for them.. WHy does anyone is this band need to rush for anything..?

Just heard tommy is planing some USA dates for january and february, does this means that the february release of CD is gone?

if the feb was true? nah, don't think so, cd speaks for itslef and the company do lots of promos ;)

not at all! manny artists dont start tour before weeks after they release the albume! I dontthink it makes any different!

I would find it a bit silly for a band who is trying to live up to a huge name and releasing their big comeback type album to have guys off doing solo projects.. It's true that you don't need eevryone to promote the album, but it would make sence for the group to be one and not worry about side shit..

if february is the aim, i don't see the album coming out then, they'd release a single at this time. and the album will come later. so it won't be a problem if tommy tours til then.

I would hope there'd be a real buzz a few moths before the actual release.. Why not a january video/single and a february release? Lets be honest only axl needs to talk, no one cares what anyone else has to say.. I just want to see some cool promotion witht eh badn as one, all 7 guys hanging together, it just looks more authentic for something as important as this

would be funny i axl sits watching tv when it's released, it's possible

you're right, the name "axl rose" would be enough to promote the album. but as you said, it would be great if the whole band would do it, because that would be part of the proof that this really is a band. well, we'll see...

For me that would be amazing, the band just chilling shooting the shit.. I don't want to see just diizy or tommy doing eevrything.. Axl has to make a statemetn, it would be crazy not to, it's his baby so to speak.. I don't want the band to just be a mystery, I want to get to know the band who I will be supporting.. I have seen tehm live, but I never got to see the band in the casual atmosphere..

hope that happen too

hmmm...this is it for me...the february release was my last hope...and since it is obvious that it's not happening, GnR is now dead to me...if they couldn't get the cd out by february, then they never will...they'll just find more ways to delay it...it just shows that they are not really serious about GnR and they just don't care about releasing CD...peace...i'm gone...for good

keep your pessimistic stuff to yourself, you're not helping anyone with this whining. be a man!

it will be out, i dont know if soon is the word, but it will be out!!

But when u finaly see the light at the end of the tunnel???? Its probobly just a train comming  :-\

LOL

I belive we will see it right over new year!

the cd can be released when the other members are busy chill,
there's a web update coming too according to tommy,  :)

when did tommy say that?

In Oslo

try this
http://www.gnrsucks.com/news.php?extend.72

I don't know what all you guys are worried about.  Just because Tommy says that he is booking more dates in January and February doesn't meen that CD will not come out in Februrary.  From my understanding, Tommy is done with all his work on the album, so he doesn't need to be with Axl when the cd drops.  But if they are going to film a video, they can do it in late Nov. or Dec.  The way I see it, this seems like a perfect scenerio...

Nov/Dec- Announcement, Shoot a video

Dec/Jan- single

Jan/Feb- Tommy does his thing

Feb- Tommy is finishing up, CD drops

March- they begin touring


I think you guys are overreacting a bit here.

peace and rock on!

Well, its kinda like the same picture i got! Hope it will turn out this way! And since Mysteron says, gnr camp is kinda busy thease days, and that there is an announcment in the near future! Im an optimist!

 : ok:

Cor!!!
:D Mates, you of bloody short memories or yet to read them?
Mysteron has posted the followings

"Management are saying that there is a possibility that there might be an announcement during November"
"the gnr camp is too busy for rumors now"
maybe a new guitarist, maybe more..
We are possiby seeing some light as late as this month. :headbanger:

So long. Tara!!! :wave:

If n when new gnr films a video it will be big news, hopefully there will be no way to keep it a secret..

yes, tommy is inda groove too, cool updates from him haven't got vgh is his name stinson or stintson?

Best case scenario........ We're dealing with Guns N' Roses here.... but I'm glad you're optimistic, that should last for a few years.

I agree that its not necessarily bad news, its just not what we were all hoping to hear.  We all wanted to hear him say something like, he's going to be busy with GNR for the next few months, or something like that.  But even if he is planning on being with GNR because the cd is about to be released, he wouldn't be able to talk about it.  Until there is an official announcement, he has to be vague. 

Trouble with tommy is he's always vague.. I wish someone would ask him if axl plans on saying something soon..? If they did what did he say?

I don't think Tommy will be confirming anything for axl anytime soon. Tommy is not Axl's PR guy... but besides that, I'd be surprised if Tommy even has Axl's phone number. From the comments the band has made it really sounds like they have to go through a middle man to talk to Axl. Remember, to everyone in the band they refer to GnR as "them" instead of "us".

Eh? So "Q: what do the other members of GNR think? A: I haven't spoken to us in a bit" makes more sense than "A: I haven't spoken to them in a bit"?

Hmmm....you're joking right?

I swear some people on here should write scenarios for Twilight zone, they would be good at it  :hihi:

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=25929



Just thought I'd share the info, but I wouldn't recommend everyone emailing his manager.

If/when they have news, they'll tell us, right? ;D


Keeping the faith ;)

The person seems to care,.. When there's news it'll be posted on tommy's site.. I don't think their people will give news before they would actually have it on their own site..

ooo... ever since I heard "Okay" I been picturing a video for it  :D
That'd be cool!
Though yeah, there are plenty of great tracks to choose from.
In his message he seems really happy about being added to the station's playlist.
Good for you Tommy!   : ok: 
I really think with some more exposure the album could do very well. 
Its a great album.
I'm really looking forward to his single and video  :yes:

Not very good news for NEW GNR fans.  I wish Jarmo asked Tommy if the new guys have practiced the UYI songs.  I wonder.  I would hate to think we'd never hear songs like dead Horse and Coma again.

~yeah, that would be a great question... why didn't we think of it at the time  :-\

It wouldn't matter to me if they did play those songs anymore, I just want anything.. We're lucky if any gnr song is played again at this rate.

Wow...almost two years since MSG02. This is kind of...unreal.