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Since BH isnt coming back and now Ron Tahl is not going to be the next lead guitarist, what do you think about axl trying to get John 5. He was awesome with Manson.

Dave, how about axl getting his finger out of his bum holio and releasing something,
Makes you wonder why all of axls " hired guns " keep leaving doesnt it?
Maybe if axl actually did something instead of stalling, his members might actually stay?

I think axl is just getting himself off, masterbating over what he used to be when guns was on top, i can see all of you hardcore axl fans still sitting around on the forums in 30 years time to be honest and still going on about how the `holy grail ` ( also known as chinese democracy ) will be released in nov 2034 with the new single released in time for december 25th.

Sad but prob true.

stay on topic please.

Just like you do then , eh dave?

Johnny 5 is great, but I don't see Axl hiring him. Manson got rid of him because he was so messed upon drugs. Thats what I heard anyway.

I have heard that too and I know axl doesnt want anyone in the band that is on drugs, but if John is now clean, i think axl should get him. He is great and might even be as good as Bh

If you don't like Axl and don't think CD will come out why are you on this board?

Just ignore his trolling, he is trying to get the post off topic.
Talk about John 5

Im here because i am a guns n roses fan, not just an axl nut swinger, and all in all, the biggest problem with any incarnation of guns has been axl rose, so he needs to get his ass in gear and actually do something productive for a change dont ya think?

I think it says something when nobodys like billy morrison and bumblebee turn down a chance to play with GNR and you have people like navvaro , finck and buckethead leaving and rejoining etc etc ....  ::)

Something along the lines maybe of what axl said about slash , but he was really talking about himself?

"whenever anything was close to being good hed just say no it doesnt work and can the whole idea "  " axl is a liar " all that kinda stuff?

Maybe thats whats holding gnr back and causing all of these musicians to quit or not want anything to do with axl and gnr?

OK back to john 5 now, OK?? Since he is a legit candidate to fill BHs shoes or bucket

John 5 is a a good player, I love his work with Manson but he's not a "shredder" by any stretch of the imagination, which seems to be the type to fill the void in GNR. 

This is your fourth off-topic post in this thread. Stick to the thread or don't post. Thanks.

Guns n' Roses is neither a gothic band nor a metal one. Bring a Rocker. Bring a Rockstar.

what's so great about john 5? i could think of so many better than him. he hasn't done anything in MM that was better than ok. i don't see why so many like the guy. does he have a solo project or something that shows him playing really hard stuff? i've MM and i thought it was just boring. and he didn't impress me at all.

I only have his Manson work to go by....but i wasn't blown away by that. At this stage i just want GNR to show some life and certainly wouldn't be too upset if John 5 joined this circus

Not knowing about him well, I may not entitled to voice anything on this topic either, but ?.gothic aside, 2 guys from the Mansion-link?

Such as?

Have you heard this solo work? ITs very diverse and great.? I dont think they can get someone like Zakk ( a rocker) to play BHs parts because that is not his style.

John 5 is just as bad a choice for GNR then Wes Borland would have been. These people come from styles of music where the guitar may be very prominent, but prominent in a more rhythmic fashion (even when they are called leadguitarists). In Finck and Fortus they already have players to meet that need. If (!!) a third player is added to the bunch it has to be a true virtuoso to whom playing solos is just as natural as breathing. Like Slash (not my favorite, but undeniably a leadguitarist) or Buckethead?or Thal?.etc?etc, but no glorified rhythm player (who can be excellent in what they do)?really his solowork isn?t on par with Bucket?s or Thal?s?.really not.

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As far as I know, he's a great guitar player that could'nt show all his potential with Manson (that's what I've been told, so I'm not sure).

Edit: to clarify... what I meant is that I know a guy who know more about him then me... his colo CDs or something (I don't even know if he has released semothing).

But with Marilyn Manson he has never made something really interesting, in my opinion.

Bumblefoot isn't a nobody just because mainstream people haven't heard of him, please refrain from talking out of your ass.

i havent heard his solo stuff, i didn't even knew he had solos stuff. i've seen him live and i was far from impressed, i even left on the middle of the set. and as for better guitar players. Doug Aldrich for one. i had a video of him playing here. check him out. he's amazing and a musician up for grabs. many others are at his level. if Axl was looking for a guitar player he could do a lot better than john 5 ( and by that i mean tcnically better).

Very true...

Shawn Lane the best player that ever lived was never known to a mainstream audience.

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Besides J5 not being a shredder/virtuoso type, I also agree that he and Robin are too close stylistically to be a good match.

The shredder types aren't that tough to find, go to any Guitar Center around the US and you'll find one of that ilk behind the counter....

That guy from whitesnake right? I dont see him joining gnr because i dont think they want a guy from white snake in the band, he was pretty good but I think John 5 is better. But everyone thinks they should get BH back, too bad axl cant.

Ya, BH was too huge to be replaced.

And no conservative sounds are required.

IMO GNR wants someone fresh n challenging.
New wine in new GNR.? :beer:

That's bullshit actually.  John5 and Manson both mutually agreed to part ways and there is no animosity from either side.  And have a listen to the John5 solo album to hear how 'drugged up' he is... his playing is amazing.  I don't believe these kind of stories.  Personally, while I think John5 is a dick, looks wise, his playing is simply outstanding, when he is doing what he loves best... shredding the shit outta rock music, 80's styleee!!!

hehe

He's a great player is all I mean.

I stand by my opinion that bumble is a nobody and will never rise above whatever he is now. The shawn lane reference? Shawn lane was REVERED in the guitar playing community!!! Alot of difference between bumbumble and lane! This has nothing to do with "mainstream" , hell , buckethead isnt mainstream by he is light years ahead of a nobody like bumbleboot.

Players like satch and vai and petrucci and so many others arent "mainstream" and they are worlds ahead of a nobody like bumbleboot.

Bum aint joining GNR , great! John 5 aint joining GNR either and thats great! Forget about Zakk joining , heh. Maybe Bucket will return but I think it's VERY unlikely. I'm thinking they will attempt with either 2 guitar players , fortus and finck , or try and find the "super unknown" to fill big b's parts or get Tobias back on chords and leave the soloing to finck and fortus.

Whatever way they go and whoever they bring in to replace big B doesnt matter , I already chalk it up as a bis loss in the win/loss bracket. Think just for a second how HUGE the combo of bucket and axl woulda been once they started releasing videos and fans saw these two interacting in videos. Magic.

But along the line someone blew it .. big time.

btw .. to all those saying axl should hire an "unknown" who has great ability and can shred .. I think I found the guy!!!

http://www.metalagesmedia.com/marcel/video/newrace.wmv

this guy can shred his fucking ass off and he's about the same size as axl and has the same hairline!  :hihi:

Funny you should mention Satch, he was just recently jamming with Bumblefoot live. Satch also mentioned that G3 with "Bumblebee" is a future possibility.

Awesome. maybe in a couple years bumbleboot wont be a nobody anymore. Until then make sure to spread the bumbleword to everyone , skeltor , why not be the first kid on your block to organize and create the 1st ever bumblefoot street team!!!  : ok:

Go get Steve Vai then

He's be great, but he's not easy to work with. He has nearly as big ego as Axl.

Bah, just get Axl as the third guitarist, u heard him on Dead Horse he can do it! :P

I dont think they need another guitarist, i am not to big on Axl's new band but i do like Richard Fortus, let him play lead and Finck on rhythm, and if a song calls for another player then Axl should play. At this point i think they should just worry about getting a record out in the stores.

Great idea! I guess Axl never thought about this possibility and you blessed him with your way of think!? ::)
Uh, I dunno if you saw any newGNR videos, but Finck played a lot more leads than Fortus...? :P
Anyways, I'm sure Axl wants an avant-gard guitarist. Not just some shredder. And, if some here didn't realize, not just a rocker with great look but no new sounds.
Like ppbebe said:


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Axl should get Dean and Rob Deleo, fire Stinson, then change their name to stone temple pirates.

Axl should just ask Michael Angelo if he wants a shredder. I'm sure if the pay was right he'd join.

Is Vai still busy these days??

I think the best solution is an unknown guitarist.Axl should scout the whole world until he can find the guitar genius he needs. Of course,that would delay CD even more...

didn't really work for Limp Bizkit did it...

we don't want to become a laughing stock now do we.. :hihi:

that may be true but he also ruined a lot more solos than fortus, at least the lead parts that fortus had he could do them justice.? finck ruins about any solo he attempts plus he's the worst backup singer in the history of GNR and possibly the history of music.? hell i have a cousin who can play slashes solos better than finck can, but anyway i might agree with the person who said they should look for an unknown guitarist cus im sure there are a lot of guitarists out there that can play Slashes guitar parts fine plus learn the new songs and if its an unknown guitarist you dont have to worry about him having other obligations