Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This is from Rumorboard:

http://www.golala.com/forums/index.php?mfo...m&showtopic=225

We have had two clear sets of rumours to date. One set indicating a Nov/Dec tour and one indicating a Jan/Feb tour

It is becoming clear that Guns n'roses will do a European tour in January/February. We can be very sure of that unless Axl delays again.

Tommy has confirmed that Guns n'roses are returning to the studio in December for rehearsals. It has also been mentioned on the forum at HTGTH that Tommy will return for rehearsals in December. A fan was also told by Stinson and Fortus at a concert that they expected to be on the road with gnr in January

Definite countries for a gnr Euro tour are UK, Portugal, Spain and Germany. I have promoter and probable venue info on most of these



Thanks to admin on Rumorboard.

I've never been to the "rumorboard" myself and have no idea how it started. ?I wonder if any of these rumors have any truth to them. ?We all know that Axl is doing this for himself and putting out the album on his own time, NOT OURS. ?So who knows maybe hes coming out for good this time.

its a bunch of people giving each other "assignments" to track down certain parts of gnr. Whoever may be involved in anyway. Then they "relay" it back...

who knows and who cares....
its pretty simple if u ask me....
More than likely, if CD were to come out in November then we will get news in late Sept/Oct.
If its coming out in Dec then we will get news in late oct/early November.

A tour would follow in the new yr.

So thats how im looking at it. Im not gonna rely on people that i cant trust. Its not worth it. If it pans out. Good job..if not same old story from these people....

I guess the Rumorboard has alot to tell recently..... :-\

Some of the stuff they write are true. I don't know their sources but I know for a fact that some shows were being scheduled for Germany. Nothing more on that though.

The problem is that they write everything that they hear. So, if I write everything that I hear I'll probably be right in some of the stuff I write...

Shows in Germany...?? Do you know for sure.... :-\

Dare I say wishful thinking???? Maybe its not even the authenticity of the rumor but that chances of Axl gettin everyone onto a succesful tour.

I said that:


I don't know if they got cancelled or got rescheduled so don't get your hopes up until you hear an official announcement.

The 2005 european tour will be around february.
No news on CD release, but the tour is a go!
The story is that Guns's agent lost a lot of money on the 2002 tour, and Axl has to do the tour to recoup the losses. He's totally commited to it.

Now, my opinion and hopes about this is that there's no logic on doing another tour without an album, so my hopes is that CD will be out this year, since usually nobody releases important records in January/February. Also, they should get use of the Greatest Hits hipe, and the xmas sales. but there was never any logic in gn'r camp!

It is so predictable....first Nov/Dec then Jan, now Feb is a go : ok:? yeah right ::) next it will be a summer festival tour....I am becoming VERY bitter. Only one thing matters at this point-a release date for the album. :-[ I am not sure I would pay to see them without an album and no Bucket. I would rather see a Stinson solo show or a CCBBB show than see AFD redux by a cover band. "Give me a record, or give me death." :nervous: :nervous:

I couldn't agree more. I think there is too much over reliance at the moment on the rumour board. After all, thats all it is, a rumour board.

If he is serious about touring, he will release the record. Unless he is planning on selling the album on the tour!

If they go on tour and the album isnt out I swear to God Ill go straight to the management offices and apply for a job.

There just asking for bad press, negativity, etc if they go on tour without the album out. If there not gonna have it out they better have a release date that will be released while there on tour. If not its all garbage. I dont wanna hear the new songs in a live setting and theres no reason to play the same set like 2002 with a few more new songs thrown in. I want the album out. Cause then they will tour on the albuma nd then throw some classics in which is the absolute smart thing to do.
Use your fukin brain. Otherwise lay low until its ready. We've waited long enough. Do what you gotta do then release it. Cant afford anymore stop n gos...

They are gonna do it right now. Your not gonna see them on tour if the album isnt ready to come out. Either the album will be out or they will have a release date released to the public before they ever hit the stage. I dont think Axl will make the same mistake twice, this is his last shot and he knows that if he fucks it up he's all done. Dont worry he's smart, I'm pretty sure he wont go on tour without the album ready to come out.

I agree as well. Im just saying they better not even think of doing otherwise.
I dont think last tour was a mistake. They had no intentions of releasing the album. What they did wrong was poor planning. In the end it turned out to  be a mistake, not because of what they did but how they did it.

Next time around Gnr must do things properly.

Announcements
promos
singles/videos
album
tour
and any other marketing strategies they have up thier sleeve.
If they do that everything will be fine. The music will then be allowed to be judged and see how it goes. This band has nothing to worry about. Im sure they have made a special and memorable album. All of which will make us proud...

I'm going to add fans to that list...for each item, think fans first then $$$, publicity etc. Treat them with a little respect. Starting from now...some clear communication wouldn't go amiss

well if they do what I listed that means we will be getting the music. Which is all I want.

my source isn't the rumour board. it isn't a rumour at all. it's a fact. confirmed.

Grabar, I wasn't really commenting on your truthfulness-didn't want to offend you. Just commenting on how rumors have progressed over the last 3 years...dates get pushed back and back and back. I stand by my album statements. :hihi:

Confirmed?? thats a pretty strong word..... who confirmed it?? The guy who makes sure the scented cakes are refreshed in all the urinals at your local arena? 

How can anyone think that anything is confirmed or even in the works untill tickets go on sale with this band.....even then, after blowing 50 bucks a piece for tickets you can't trust that a tour has been planned untill the show starts. I know people have to create topics to keep a message board going while the band is doing nothing, but the amount of people who are "in the know" is amazing, especially when 75% of the band members aren't in the know.

I agree. I dont think that the tour itself was a mistake, cause tours are always good, but the way they went about it was a mistake. They needed a lot more promotion for a couple of reasons:

1. The band was relatively unknown to most of the general public, besides their performance at the VMA's (which we all know wasnt Axl's best voice-wise)

2. They had no album in the stores.

This time they need to start promotion for the record with the single and video and the whole nine yards. Then they need to put the goddamn album out. Then they need to promote a tour. I mean the 2002 tour would have been a lot more sucessfull if the first show wasnt cancelled and there was no riot, cause that aint a great start. Also, if Axl went on stage before 10:00 more people would have showed up. I mean, for the most part, the reviews for the shows were positive.

So as long as they do everything stated above the next tour will go smoothly. Also, if the record is released they need to play a lot more new songs and keep the essential GN'R tracks like Jungle, Paradise City, SCO'M, November Rain, KOH'D, LALD, etc...not the same 2002 setlist. I have no doubts about the band being succesful at all, they just need to do things right this time.

Seen rumors like this a thousand times.

Im not so sure about that. IMO, last tour failed because there was nothing to promote and they played in pointless places. Going on late and riots is ok if your out there with an album.

As long as there is an album out for next tour, Axl/GNr can go on whenever they want. Thats not the issue. When they play CD sets then no1 will care about what they do.

Next tour will be a tour for the actual album. It will be a dominate CD set. I can see them throwing in a few oldies in there just for good measure. Afterall this is a band that always have and always will play for atleast 2 1/2 hrs or more.

When Tommy says all hell will break loose when they go on tour, I really dont think he envisions he and his band playing a AFD dominate set. As Axl said at the VMAs...these guys are intense about playing their own material.....so thats not the issue. The issue is whether they will release the album before/during or after any type of tour.

Yeah, I know that it will be 'Chinese Democracy' dominated as Axl said in a radio interview that as the tour kept going they will be adding a lot more new material to the set. But I know they will also play the older material. I mean just look at the Illusion tour, they played a lot of the 'older' material. But thats what I think will make the next tour so much better than the 2002 tour. The new guys didnt write the old material and they dont get into songs as much. But when they played their select few songs that they wrote they were totally into it. So when they are playing mostly songs they wrote they will much more into the performance which will make the show that much better.

When I saw the show here in Boston, the band seemed more like a "band" when they played the new songs.

Yeah, thats exactly what I was trying to say. They enjoy it more as a band when they are all playing songs they wrote, where it doesnt really matter to Axl cause he wrote all of them. Not saying that he doesnt care about the new songs like the new guys do.

anyone like mysteron or the others who have inside info have any idea if there is some truth to this?

These kind of roumors are part of the reason for Axl's bad image: if they don't happen,it's not because the roumor wasn't true,but because "Axl delayed it again"

If this rumor has any shread of truth to it, that would be great. Can I get an AMEN!?!

AMEN : ok:

How do you get to this rumorboard anyhow?  I know that Axl is doing this his way and taking his time.  He doesn't want to be Axl Rose anymore and be surrounded by media and fans pressuring him for what WE want all the time.  I realize he is leading us down a beaten path by talking about this new project and how this and that will happen and it never does.  But he simply does not want anyone to know who he is anymore, he doesn't want to be the icon he once was. 
He wants to make an album that is completey for himself dominated by his material.  Why do you think he took over as producer of CD?  He wants it his way, and when he's done with it Chinese Democracy will be out there.  I truthfully think if we shut down everything and the media forgot about him for a while he would drop the bomb of his new material on us.  The album WILL come out on AXL's time, NOT OURS, unfortunately.

Here's an idea: On the next tour, do a cover of The Replacements "Can't hardly Wait" and dedicate to RichardNixon on the Here Today board. Awesome song.  :peace:

Whenever this comes to pass, if it ever does, either way it's gonna be painful without the Big B

Buckethead really needs to come back...his tour ends shortly before all this is supposed to go down.  Seeing him solo saddened me to an extent to think he's not with Guns anymore.

I so wanna hear some news on this soon well we all do

Yeah I'm thinking we will this month for some reason.  Something always happens with GN'R in august.  This is when the new band likes to get something out there for the end of the year for some reason.

Confession: I dont care anymore

And we're supposed to care about that because?
If that's all you have to say, don't post.

as a studio session musician well ok. But on stage? NO, NEVER. He makes the band look absolutely pathetic, he kills the feeling. How can you get exited when the camera goes on him? he is just fuckin' scary.
Guns n' Roses don't need a clown on stage. Buckethead is incridibly talented, ok, but he doesn't fit in a Rock band.
Give the job to Fortus in Live, he is far enough talented to play killer guitar solos, he would put more feeling, it would be better in my opinion. Richard Fortus is the man for this band.

LOL. I couldn't take my eyes off of bucket. he was amazing and I love his whole character.

Bucket or no Bucket, I`d like to see them hit the road regardless in early 2005.

I don`t think they absolutely need him live, Fortus is more than capable of picking up the slack. Buckethead is more of a sideshow attraction than a band member. He is very talented and awesome on guitar, but he sticks out more than he fits in. And a little mentally off. The bucket and mask aren`t enough, he has to talk thru a hand puppet also.

The Rumourboard people take it very seriously, probably too seriously (I swear, they seem to think they are detectives at times with their assignments and whatnot). But I think they mean well and are doing everything possible to find out what is going on w/ GNR. I'm glad they're around.

Buckethead live is completely mesmerizing...

AdZ:

No,you dont have to care. I just hate this "i dont care anymore" feeling :-\ I will try to make more intellicent post in the future  :)

Obviously you do care if your still going to GN'R website and posting your opinion.  Buckethead was a great pick by Axl, because of GN'R I'm a huge fan of Bucket and even got three toys thrown at my girl and I at his show in Cincinnati.

So is there any news/confirmation to Guns looking into places to play toward the end of the year?  Mysteron can you shed some light on this....?

I'd like to see the answer fot this ne too! Hey Mysteron, please, answer! Even if it's to say "I din't know" ou "I can't say"...  :beer:

This is true but if the album had came out with buckethead still in the band then it would have detracted from the music.  His image is totally wrong for GN'R and it would just have been another excuse for the media to take cheap shots at Axl.  Something along the lines of, "When GN'R first hit the big time their guitarist was a strutted around the stage in a top hat, now they have a freak in a KFC bucket and a hockey mask."

who cares about the imago anymore. Guns, with or without Buckethead, ain't the same anymore so there isn't any image thing what comes to Guns N' Roses ..it changes all the time.

Becoming clear? ::) I think they give their own opinions on this too much credit - and to be fair to Axl he has never delayed the album or the tour....because he's never confirmed dates for either - or anything else for that matter

No it doesnt. Thats the biggest misconception with this band. People thinkt hey change all the time, when its clearly not the case

Yeah, younggunner but? he meant: It= image=what ppl think=which changes all the time. Yeah?


On this topic, Maybe it?s about time we made one thread dedicated to the rumour board rumours and no more.? :coffee:? ?

If you think the image (including the look) isn't important in the music industry, so you are totally wrong.
Whatever you agree or not, the image is as important as your music to sell records. In the music industry, there are rules, there are codes. It's like that. It's part of the marketting image thing. It has always existed, even Elvis cared of his "image" to be successfull. Sincerely, if Britney Spears was fat and ugly, do you think she would have sold about 50 million records worldwide? certainly not!
Concerning the image, a guy like Buckethead is a catastrophe for any Rock band in the music industry. This is the kind of guy that can kill the success of your band because he doesn't look like a human. How could you attach or identify to a...robot? You can be the most talented guy but if you don't have the vibe, the feeling, well you can go home. It's called media attraction. Axl, Slash, and guys like that are increadibly attractives. Buckethea is the totall opposite, he will never be popular. it has been over 15 or 20 years that he has been in the music industry. seriously who knew him before he joined GN'R? NOBODY. absolutely nobody.

::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
yeah, slipknot members are way more human ....

i have to agree that bucket didn't look right up there with the others and image appears to be so important nowadays

alright but in Slipknot they all wear masks, this is the style of this band. They were known like that it corresponds to their image. BUT CONCERNING GUNS N ROSES, that band has a past , a Rock n' Roll image. Fortus totally fits in that band, but Buckethead no. He just doesn't "make it". It's not only a question of look or image, but a question of feeling. There are things you cannot do. It's not like if GN'R don't have a past. they have it. and a strong one.

This isn't The Hives where everybody dresses the same.  ::)


And I don't understand what a possible tour in Jan/Feb has to do with the clothes they wear. Maybe you're worried that they won't find the right costumes in time so they can't possibly tour that soon?



/jarmo

I couldn't have explained that better? : ok:

How did this image thing come about?  I've said it so many times and I'll say it again Buckethead is PERFECT for GN'R.  Have you ever seen another band with all these types of players molded into one?  I'll answer that one for ya, NO!!  By the way...hopefully this thread will keep going with the tour rumor actually turning out true...time will tell as always.

If you are gonna take Pot SHots at BH, get it right, its a Mike Meyers mask and KFC Bucket. The Mike Myers mask originally was a Capt Kirk mask in the first Halloween so Either Mike Myers or WIlliam SHatner mask, not a Hockey Mask, that is my boy Jason. Shows how much you know.


Ding Ding Goes the Cowbell

LMFAO! I know your heart was in the right place there guy but .. LOL , FYI buckethead doesnt wear a micheal myers mask onstage .. he wears a plain white kabuki mardis gras mask.  :rofl:

He was inspired by Halloween PT4 but couldnt find a real myers mask so he settled for what he wears now.

Shows how much you know.  :smoking: 

Haha , no offence man .. just had to help you get your facts straight.

I'm not pot shotting BH i like the guy, and I am wrong on a technicality.   >:(

Hi.

I wasnt tryin to call you out , just tryin to clear up your error.  ;)

If it makes you feel any better , he does wear a micheal myers mask offstage alot.  :hihi:

And I think it's cool that you are a buckethead fan. I'm kinda like a fan of his too.  :peace:

gotta love all you buckethead fans!!  :beer:

Could you please talk about BH in another thread - preferably in another section of the forum.

Thanks.

why did you wait for me post before you said that? There was much talk of buckethead within this thread before I posted.  ???

Buckethead leaving was both good and bad.  It was bad because he was by far the best of the three guitarists.  It's good because I believe he had a lot to do with the delay of CD and his image had nothing to do with rock n' roll and Guns N' Roses.  That said, not to bash the new band or anything, but I realize now more than ever that Slash is needed in this project.  I cannot wait until CD comes out and I think it will be great, but Robin Finck and Richard Fortus do not even come close to Slash's originality or skill.  Even Buckethead is not as good as Slash.  The bottom line is the Guns N' Roses was the old lineup, and this new lineup is the epitome of a solo album, just under the name Gn'r.  Axl has hired anyone and everyone to contribute to different music, but the actual "band" does not even seem to be in contact with each other.  Again, I think the album will kick ass because Axl is an amazing songwriter and all this time spent on this has to be worthwhile.  But I'll feel like I'm picking up an Axl Rose solo album rather than a Guns N' Roses album.

Why do you think he was delaying the album?

Hi, nesquick or those who concerns the image n afd era so bad, Here's a little :puke: cute band just for ya.

http://www.gbfam.com/negative/eng/photos.html
(I?d refrain from commenting on this band just in case they?re the board mates.)

Hi, Saul, Another bucket-in-guns fan here.? :beer:There are quite a few of us here and there.

On topic, same to the rumour board, your site doesn?t let me lurk,
which sucks.? :P

To all your Bucket haters out there....you try playing guitar that well with a bucket/mask on.  Buckethead is the man, bottom line.  He has his OWN style and will create huge guitar riffs on the new album.  March 2005 here we come.

This is exactly how I feel as well.

I know, we are all GnR fans so its all good. I'm more of a Jason Vorhees/Friday the 13th Fan I got all them movies. Halloween would be 4th on my list. Nothing personal but thanks for the info. And personally I think BH in the Mike Meyers Jumpsuit and Mask and Bucket is better then the yellow raincoat. He looks more badass without the raincoat

Hi , why not just register and join the fun? I had to keep lurkers out because they were downloading all the mp3s and videos and stealing the bandwith away from the members who took the time to register. Keep rocking.

on topic .. cant wait for the tour in jan/feb   :hihi:

I agree , thats probably my favorite buckethead "look" too ...

peace  :peace:

I have a feeling that you won't have to wait that long for this tour...  ;)

That's an intriguing comment.  Do you have anything you can share, Christos?  Heard anything interesting lately about GN'R touring plans?
 : ok:
Ali

Yes I have and it's good but I can't post anything since I promised the guy not to say anything. But I haven't said nothing more than what the rumours have...  ;)

And besides, I wouldn't want to be called a "guy with a fax" around here...  ;D

I understand, but you definitely won't be getting those accusations from me.  I don't even think there are that many magical fax machines around anyway. ;D

Ali

has the rumor board moved? the usual link doesn't work anymore.

damn straight. Bucket didn't look strange up there. if you want a typicappl looking rock band, go worship VR; stinky leathers and ripped shirts. But the new gnr looks so cool with all their personalities oozing over the stage.

I don't think bucket will be back, but i appreciated his time there.

 :o Wow, have I just heard the murmuring of the Aegean? Or was it a cool breeze from Olympus?
How pleasant to the ear?Cheers, Christos.? ?: ok:

I was also wondering if rumorboard has moved, anyone know?

I don't think it's moved, the enter golala.com site is down (I believe it's a site that provides free message boards). I think it's just temporarily down.

the board moved to www.gnr.board123.com

Well, looks like the Admin, (I assume with the work of other  board members) has promoter names for Gunner shows in early 05. This, along with Christos's comments, seem to say it's happening...album or not.

Well... a tour without an album is better than nothing at all I guess... though I still think there's a chance the album could be out by December.

I'm thinking Axl will fill us in if he tours again with information on the album.  He'll release it after a few shows, and then hit us with a huge tour.

i only hope you're right!!

Rumors like this come and go, but this time seems legit more than any other.  March 2005 is what Axl wants, not what we want.  I'm sensing some annoucements in the winter.

Just something to add. I was in my Music Industry Forum Class, where people who've interned for companies do presentations to earn their credit. Anyhow one person who interned for the marketing department for ClearChannel (UK) in their concert promtion department was talking about upcoming shows in the London area that haven't been confirmed but booked, and one band that was shown was Guns N' Roses with Dec/Jan. next to their name.

I don't know why, but this wholle story sounds a little weird to me...

I would like to believe this, but I am reserving my judgement until we get more info.

So you know an intern in your college class that knows a date for an upcoming GN'R show?  Anything else you can ask this person, so we can actually see if the European tour is being jumpstarted soon?

ClearChannel?

I dont think so....

hmmm i'll wait n see on this one about clear channel, all though in the end i dont really care who promotes as long as gnr gets out on the road again and album comes out

i know that in portugal they're gonna play in pavilh?o atlantico, lisboa, where madonna just played 2 sold out nights and recorded a dvd. it's a 18.000 capacity arena.
actually i'm gonna play there tonight! my band, kidnap (www.kidnaprocks.com) is gonna open for whitesnake!
and i know that they already have a contract with the biggest promoter in portugal - "musica no cora??o".
i don't know the exact date though.

Are GNR going to play in Portugal???

The only thing i'll add to this discussion is the fact that both REM and U2 have massive tours booked in for next year.  I think they are pretty much the biggest bands in world at the moment - U2 in particular. 

No real reason why this should delay GN'R really.  But there maybe some kind of hesitation in terms of whether they want to be compared/ compete with those bands who have continued to work. 

On the other hand it good be the right time while the big bands are releasing stuff.  To have Axl and the GN'R name back amongst them bands could be cool. 

Start saving guys  : ok:

How can you just jump in all the sudden and say they're playing Portugal??  Do you know this for a fact, or are you just assuming that they'll play?

he's only saying it now cuz now it's apropriate to talk about it. but this is something that the promotors in Portugal were booking for some months now. first they were in talks for jadec/jan and now its feb. if there is a tour it will stop by in Portugal.

I'm still not understand what he's saying.  Does he KNOW that they're coming, or does he think they will come for sure if they do have this tour?

well I am hoping there is something soon for Guns N Roses.

Hey, I went to that show! I was right up front, just one person away from the guy who shouted for Guns N' Roses.
Your band put on a cool show and it's great you got the opportunity to open for Whitesnake.
Congrats!  : ok:

Anyway, back on topic....  I hope you're right about GNR coming to Portugal again... after the RIR4 cancellation and all...

Grabaraxl say something.....

Come on...

i know that there's a contract already signed. the band is booked to play here, and that's part of an european tour.
this is not what i'm thinking, it's really things that are on paper.
i'll try to find out the date. i'm super curious about it as well!


cristina, thanks for the compliments on the show! it was great. we did a cover of "it's so easy". i'm the lead singer/guitarrist in kidnap. next time say hello to me, it's always cool to meet a gn'r fan!

Hey man, great... I believe you. : ok:

When and where is this release date exactly?  If they're booking shows already shouldn't we hear something like the big RIR4 annoucement that they eventually cancelled?  How do you know this, and is it confirmed garbaxl??

i got the news from the promoter himself. as i said, a contract is already signed, just like the rock in rio situation, but the promoter is diferent - actually there was a big rivality between him and the rir staff, so this is a little revenge.

now, this part is just what i think that's happening - i'm sure they're still adding more dates to the tour, and when they have the final schedule they'll have give us the info about the tour.

From what I heard, there seemed to be some activity earlier in the year for a possible tour in December. I guess that got pushed back until early 2005.

I haven't heard anything new since the rumored December dates.



/jarmo

I'm thinking we'll hear something around November/December about what's going on.  Maybe the whole GN'R saga and recording process will be explained once Axl decides to come out again.

Could anyone check if the tour's going to happen in March? Cause a little bird told me so...

I'm not checking on tour info for gnr this time around, but it would be a good idea if those who have info, state it and also send Jarmo some proof so you can all centralise/pool your information

I can't state this info cause it's not 100% sure and I don't like lies. I'll just take it as a rumour.

I know it's too soon to check about the tour, I just thought I'd give in my 2 cents about it.

Besides, we'll know when it's time to know... ;-)

So now it's being pushed back to March?  I thought it was all happening Jan/Feb?!

from Rumorboard:

"More on UK tour;

Promoter likely to be K2/Mean Fiddler

Venues from;

London - Wembley
Glasgow - SECC
Manchester - MEN
Sheffield - Hallam FM Ar.
Birmingham - National Indoor Arena
Nottingham - Nottingham Arena
Newcastle - Metro Radio Ar.
Belfast - Odyssey
"
wembley stadium? really? that would be amazing! :o
can somebody check this info? For my part I wrote to Admin, I will see if he has more informations.

More like wembley arena.

wembley what?? ??? for me Wembley is wembley, the 80.000 people stadium capacity. what is wembley arena? and how many seats does it contain?

Wembley Arena is a smaller venue (around 11,500 seats), in London as well. Wembley Stadium has a 76,000 capacity.

http://www.wembley.co.uk/venues/organisers/arena.htm
http://www.stadiumguide.com/wembley.htm

Don't forget Wembley Stadium is a football/soccer venue, where as the arena is a music venue.

The new Wembley Stadium (http://www.wembleystadium.com/) is still being built. They tore the old one down a few years ago.



/jarmo

Yep, it should have a 90,000 maximum capacity.

You can play music in stadiums. and GN'R did it back in the days. So there is no way it could be wembley stadium? Maybe later after the album is released....I hope. I love big stadium shows, it's spectacular. I'm sure GN'R can sell out wembley stadium especially since the pretty big success of the GH in the UK. They can do it.

I meant "primarily" football/soccer venue, meaning its main usage is for sports (unlike the arena). Of course you can play music in stadiums, GN'R did it a lot of times in the 90's. They can play again in stadiums for festivals, but no one knows if they can fill a stadium on their own now, like in the good ol' days.

Yeah, lets all remember that at this precise moment Wembley Stadium doesn't exist...

...And that a gig at Wembley Arena would suck. I would much rather they played at the Docklands (Which they have scheduled to the last three times they planned to come to England), or, my personal favourite venue of them all, Hammersmith Apollo.  :)

Yep, Hammersmith rules...!

yes they can? :). the formula is very simple: a good album (chinese democracy), a huge single = you refresh the memory of people It's called a "come-back". but a real one, not like in 2002. It's always successfull. Something like Aerosmith around 1993/94 with the very successfull single "crying".

And Rolling Stones are the first band to play the new Wembley...

I just don't understand how this guy is getting confirmation's to upcoming GN'R shows.  Is it legit...or just made up by some random?

I thought the RUmourboard was dead...anyway, if Axl is shopping for another guitarist, it would make sense the tour would be pushed back so whomever he brings on board gets rehearsal time...maybe Tommy will shed some small flicker of light (however vague) on next year when he sits down with Jarmo  : ok:

Tommy told a fan that spoke to him in Copenhagen, Denmark that they're gonna "tour and tour" after New Year's.


Thanks Rainfox.




/jarmo

We can only hope that it is fuelled by the sales performance of a long-overdue album... Otherwise, we may see our fave band performing to 1/2- and 3/4-full arenas...

Great news thanks for posting Jarmo

december 30 2005 is also "after new year's". He doesn't say if they are going to tour soon after the NYE or way later in the year.

Yeah, I guess he meant in 2010.  ::)


If you've read certain posts in this thread, you might get an idea of the timeframe we're talking about.




/jarmo

so let me get this straight guns are possibley touring Jan/Feb in Europe in '05 which would mean that CD would have to have come out for them to tour correct? if all this is true i win a 6 pack! ha that will show my non-believer friends not to count out Axl ;D

dont get your hopes up, he toured before without releasing the album

I think the tour might be held off until March when the album drops.  That is the latest time frame they could put it out for the first half of releases.  I'm counting on something going down around that time.  Any other confirmations anyone can fill us in about?

So are those euro dates at the end of Dec off now?

No offense but....

I posted a rumor from Rainfox, sometimes ago...

Here it is...

Here is where the rumor apparently comes from:

Thought it would be of interest to cut and paste a message that originally showed up @ the GnR Bar. It was posted by Rainfox. He has over 400 posts. Here it is...

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Folks,

just got the inside from my contacts here in Denmark. I'm serious here: They are talking.

The Midtfyn Festival is Denmarks second largest festival (Roskilde the big one) and is always the weekend before Roskilde.

I can't say anyhting more. I'm sorry. Only that the Festival board are talking with G&R reps.

Be aware though: The budget for Midtfyn is about 1/4 of Roskilde and they hardly ever hold a name like G&R by themselves. Most Danish acts also play both festivals the same year. G&R at Midtfyn would be a huge scoop.

I'll ofcourse check back if I get more info - and can share it. Please thread this one with questions, as I can't answer them. The old-school gang on this site know what I stand for.

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And the direct link to the topic is here ::

http://pub137.ezboard.com/fgu


I mean, he was wrong about that rumor...  :confused:

Hmmm, maybe i will redraw this...

I have red the full story now... Sounds real enough... : ok:

I know I know don't worry. What I try to say is that it's not the 1st time that GN'R members say there is going to be a tour "in the fall" or "very soon" or "after this or that". So I wouldn't be surprised if nothing happens before march or even april, especially if ron tha doesn't join the band because they will need to search for another guitar player wich would mean delays etc...

That's funny because I heard him say in Paris that he wanted to tour in Europe until February and then "it's Guns N'Roses" ...  :nervous: Maybe things changed since tuesday night.  ::)

Youre right....

This is taken from "Tommy Stinson in Europe thread." "El yarno"

I spoke with a girl from his and Malins crew who drove the tour minibus and sold cd?s and t-shirts. She said that stinson might tour again in feb. The tour would start in UK and then maybe other parts of Europe for about 3 weeks or so. She didn?t know what tommy was up for after that.



I guess this mean no GNR before spring/summer??? :confused: :confused: :confused

are any other long term fans getting to the point of thinking 'Fuck it, CD is going to continue to be delaayed, delayed, and further delayed, forever?"
I really believed for a long time, especially in the November release date, but once again we're left disappointed. Bored fans, with a lead singer who can't be fucking bothered to put pen to paper in 7 months to let the people who paid for his living know what the fuck's going on.

SPEAK AXL
SPEAK TO US
SOMETHING, ANYTHING, NOW

unfortunately it's very likely to happen. That's what I tried to explain  :-\

OK, no newgnr until spring/summer. But you forgot to mention the year (2007, 2012, etc.).

It seems like Tommy's gonna be back in Europe in February.




/jarmo

So let's be honest. That puts the nix on a February/March '05 release date. Surprise fucking surprise.  :beer: :'(

Did he say with which band  ;)

He meant solo.

It's only a matter of time before this whole thing is all over.... I'm starting to think there is a better chance of axl getting back together with the old band.  Fuck a tour, I want an album!!!

I wouldn't speculate that Chinese Democracy will be further delayed just because Tommy said he will be touring in February. For all we know, Axl might have a different touring "bassist". It's a revolving door in GNR. Paul Huge - Richard Fortus - Buckethead - Bumblefoot - Josh Freese - Brain. Who knows what this band will look like when they decide to tour.

It would look like a fucking mirage, because thats what it would have to be.

Im getting sure in 2006....

if tommy say the album will be out soon, it will! And many bands dont start touring moths after they release theyr albume! And i think thats a clever Idea!
The same reason why the Lord of the Rings DVD is released 6 moths after the movie was shown on the cinemas. To Build up the hype again! And To make sure that alot of people has bought the cd, and know about it!

tommy will be playing in irving plaza (new york) on december 9th. at least that's accoring to the flyer i got as i was leaving the bucket show last weekend. he's playing with jesse malin.

my guess is it means the US tour will also be extended.

not good for gnr!