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Title: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: Dave_Rose on April 24, 2004, 08:12:31 AM
Just wondering what did u think when u 1st listen to The Spaghetti Incident I really like it took a while to grow on me Since I Dont Have You is my fav on it but do like the album prob the weakest one though.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: kockstar99 on April 24, 2004, 08:35:31 AM
I love this Cd

Raw Power
Human Being
Down on the Farm..
Hair of the dog..

Fuck i love all the songs on this cd...  :love:

it got poor reviews from critics but it beats the fuck out of any of the snakepit disks...hands down...

Bad Ass Cd... would never trade it.....


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: DEAD HORSE on April 24, 2004, 11:34:08 AM
I love the whole fucking Album!  Songs Like Hair of the Dog ,Raw Power, Down On the Farm and black leather should be heard More Frequently !!!!  :yes:

And by the way "Look At Yur Game Girl " To me is one of the best song Axl Could have ever cover , I dont care if the song was written by Charles Manson , I dot give a  flying fuck about it , I just care about the fuckin music! and its music and lthe lyrics rules ! :rant:


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Surge on April 24, 2004, 12:16:16 PM
And by the way "Look At Yur Game Girl " To me is one of the best song Axl Could have ever cover , I dont care if the song was written by Charles Manson , I dot give a  flying fuck about it , I just care about the fuckin music! and its music and lthe lyrics rules ! :rant:

It's written about a girl Charles Manson killed. To me it sounds like he thought he helped her by killing her. Disgusting as hell to me. I can't understand how Axl could ever do that song.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Scree on April 24, 2004, 01:38:18 PM

It's written about a girl Charles Manson killed. To me it sounds like he thought he helped her by killing her. Disgusting as hell to me. I can't understand how Axl could ever do that song.

Er.. what girl would that be? Unless u mean he's fantacising for the sake of the song.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Snakepit__ on April 24, 2004, 01:52:47 PM
"The Spaghetti Incident?" Is My Favourite GN'R Album, And Shit The Same If Manson Wrote It About A Fucking Girl He Killed, So?

It's A Brilliant Cover Anyway..


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Falcon on April 24, 2004, 03:17:42 PM
I think it's easily one of the worst records ever released by a band at the zenith of their career.

a horrible cop out for a lack of creative energy.

Just my opinion.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: SLCPUNK on April 24, 2004, 03:44:49 PM
I didn't like it at first. I like it a whole lot more now.

 ;D


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Rebecca Duff Rose on April 24, 2004, 04:21:30 PM
Super album!
Great covers!
good music!

Ain't it fun is absolutely AMAZING!  :yes:

Lurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrve Buick Makane which btw NEVER gets a mention!  >:(

Lurving Duff on the album- You can't put ya arm's around a memory, n' Attitude!!!!  :beer:


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: erose on April 24, 2004, 04:33:17 PM
I think it's easily one of the worst records ever released by a band at the zenith of their career.

a horrible cop out for a lack of creative energy.

Just my opinion.

i would agree if the intention of releasing it was to stay on top of the charts or come back at the top of the charts...

i always had the impression of it(tsi) being a bonus to the illusions sort of... originally it was going to be an ep, but then they made it into a whole album... brilliant imo, the only sad part about it was that the new album never came so it's that last thing from gn'r which i find a bit out of place...


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: chineseilusions on April 24, 2004, 05:48:17 PM
I think it is the worst of the GN'R albums but as an album in general it was a ballsy move at the time


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: ClintroN on April 24, 2004, 08:43:26 PM
"Do yourself a favoure n' go find thr origenals"

i did : ok:
i love this album.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Evolution on April 24, 2004, 08:59:42 PM
i kinda agree with falcon that it is a bit of a cop out but its not a bad cop out.some gr8 songs on there


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: WJC on April 24, 2004, 10:09:50 PM
Not the greates album, but I wouldn't say it was a cop out.

I liked allot of songs on there, my favourite being New Rose.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Jizzo on April 24, 2004, 10:45:05 PM
I love the album tracks 2-12b


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Rebecca Duff Rose on April 25, 2004, 08:50:33 AM
"Do yourself a favoure n' go find thr origenals"

i did : ok:
i love this album.

Now THAT'S what i'm talkin' about!
Rock on dude!!!  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: matt88 on April 25, 2004, 12:08:24 PM
I liked it straight away, except since i dont have you, when that first came on i was like oh shit this albums gonna be crap like most people who have it, then New Rose came on the second track and from then on it was pure punk rock with a twist of GN'R.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Izzy on April 25, 2004, 12:28:12 PM
"The Spaghetti Incident?" Is My Favourite GN'R Album,

Damn

Thats the weirdest thing i have ever read on this board......

In the many years i have owned TSI i have only listen to it all the way through once

It was almost 3 years from the first time i listened to it that i played it again.....

To be fair its actually pretty good and has some fine songs on there it just takes years to like it.....


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: In a coma on April 25, 2004, 03:57:29 PM
Sorry if this is a dead horse question but can anybody enlighten me on what incident was the spaghetti incident was?


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Slashly on April 25, 2004, 05:00:04 PM
Well, the first time I heard TSI I was just entering the whole GnR world, and I didn?t know it was a cover album! :hihi:
So my first thought was:Damn, this doesn{t sound like GnR!! :-[
I have no idea of what was this "incident" but I read it was a joke between GnR and Steven ???


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Booker Floyd on April 25, 2004, 05:10:40 PM
An average album from a band that put out nothing but great albums up until that point.  The covers were mostly punk songs, which really didnt showcase the bands strengths...it might have worked better with more hard rock tracks instead.

"Hair Of The Dog" is  :o  The way they slam it into 4 times overdrive at the end is incredible.  Its easily the CDs best track.  Theres a few more good tracks ("Aint It Fun," "I Dont Care About You," "Human Being") but most it is just okay.  The hidden song just sucks, Manson or no Manson.  


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Mattgnr on April 25, 2004, 05:50:29 PM
Sorry if this is a dead horse question but can anybody enlighten me on what incident was the spaghetti incident was?

Well i know in England a while back, the 'spaghetti incident' was a Aprils fools day'  (Aprils 1st) joke.  Where the whole nation was led to believe that a hybrid crop was developed to grow actual spaghetti.

The pictures on the news actually showed what must have been placed spagehetti on the plant crop - many believed the amazing development.

Just a big hoax in hindsight!


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Scree on April 26, 2004, 02:50:30 AM
Sorry if this is a dead horse question but can anybody enlighten me on what incident was the spaghetti incident was?

I believe it came about during the court case Steven brought against the original members (claiming they got him hooked on hard drugs then kicked him out and didn't help him). I think it was an interview with one of the original members who said something about the whole case being a joke and when Steven complained about something to do with a plate of spaghetti leftovers and the band being mean to him, people in the court started laughing. They didn't however say EXACTLY what happened though.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Surge on April 26, 2004, 04:35:51 AM

It's written about a girl Charles Manson killed. To me it sounds like he thought he helped her by killing her. Disgusting as hell to me. I can't understand how Axl could ever do that song.

Er.. what girl would that be? Unless u mean he's fantacising for the sake of the song.

He's probably "fantacising" too. I can't recall the name of a girl, but I know Charles Manson wrote it about a girl he murdered.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: volcano62 on April 26, 2004, 05:32:47 AM
"The Spaghetti Incident?" Is My Favourite GN'R Album

I give you two thumbs up as being to first to come out of the "closet" and admitting it's the best album : ok:. I know there is more of us out there that love the "The Spaghetti Incident?"


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Freya on April 26, 2004, 09:53:55 AM
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The hidden song just sucks, Manson or no Manson.  

I kind of like it.  It's just a simple, folksy song, but I like Axl's vocals on it.  As to what Surge said, I don't think Manson wrote it about a girl he murdered, he wrote songs and was trying to be a recording artist before he masterminded those murders.

As for the origin of the Spaghetti Incident, I think in his suit against the band, Steven Adler, cited that the band left him out of things, and one time when they were living together, Duff ate his share of the spaghetti.  Which is what I believe Axl found so hilarious.  


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Mattgnr on April 26, 2004, 12:21:52 PM
Quote
The hidden song just sucks, Manson or no Manson.  

I kind of like it.  It's just a simple, folksy song, but I like Axl's vocals on it.  As to what Surge said, I don't think Manson wrote it about a girl he murdered, he wrote songs and was trying to be a recording artist before he masterminded those murders.

As for the origin of the Spaghetti Incident, I think in his suit against the band, Steven Adler, cited that the band left him out of things, and one time when they were living together, Duff ate his share of the spaghetti.  Which is what I believe Axl found so hilarious.  



I'm sticking with my answer  :rofl:


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: SwedeChildO'Mine on April 26, 2004, 06:27:20 PM
It's an underrated album with great covers.

Since it was impossible for GNR to even write a song I think they did the right and released an album with their favorite punk songs.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: Buddha_Master on April 26, 2004, 06:41:43 PM
The Spaghetti Incident relates to Spaghetti Westerns right.

But whatthefuckever. I don't like this album very much. I dig Down On The Farm though. As a whole, this album always sounded and seemed really weak and lame to me. Kind of an embarrasment that pretty much summed up perfectly the state GNR had become come the end of 1992, beginning of 1993.

Sad but true. I wish this album never came out. They could have used the time to develop something cool instead. Its a waste of talent. The originals, by an large are far superior to these.

With GNR, I could feel the Bleeding hearts that were poured into their albums. They had heart to them. There is no heart in TSI. No passion. Its not even a fun throwaway album.

I have to agree with the negative reviews this album got. You dont come off pure masterpieces with "horseshit."


But saying this, I agree with the dude above who said it. TSI is far better than any of the Snakepit albums, and Duffs solo crap. Amazing how much shit GNR and its members actually produced. Who would have thought?

Velvet Revolver and Chinese Democracy need to come out and fix a lot of the damage that GNR caused.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident
Post by: GNRisAFD on April 26, 2004, 06:52:41 PM
TSI isn't as bad as some people say but i do agree that it is below par. I love Down on the Farm,  Since I Don't have You, Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory and Black Leather. The rest is laughable.


Title: Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: page on May 22, 2004, 02:49:18 PM
Does anyone know how the bandmembers themselves feels about this album? and what does anyone here thinks?


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: Slashly on May 22, 2004, 04:53:32 PM
No idea.Slash always said that SIDHY was a joke and that he didn?t really liked Look At Your Game Girl.



Slashly//


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: mr_BROWNSTONE on May 23, 2004, 09:33:53 AM
I don't know about the band but I love some of the songs from "The Spaghetti" the same way as I love the rest GN'R songs. Which means that I like the album very much. I love Down On The Farm, Buick Makane, Hair Of The Dog, Attitude, Black Leather and You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory! It's strange that I don't like Since I Don't Have You and I really hate sometimes Ain't It Fun. I don't know why.


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: matt88 on May 23, 2004, 11:16:30 AM
It was pretty much an album all members enjoyed doing, Axl, Slash, Duff i mean, they basically chose their favorite punk songs and mucked around on them and put it all togethor, i think it was to buy them some time before they released their next full length LP and to have some fun.

They were mostly recorded during the Illusions sessions and a few while they were on the UYI tour. Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Matt recorded it but when Izzy left and Gilby joined Gilby re-recorded Izzy's parts for the album.


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: Rebecca Duff Rose on May 24, 2004, 03:12:40 PM
No idea.Slash always said that SIDHY was a joke and that he didn?t really liked Look At Your Game Girl.


I agree with Mr. Slash!!!  :beer:

God instead of releasing SIDHY- They could of released a better song- Buick Makane never gets enough credit!!
Ain't It Fun just rocks!
LAYGG Ain't punk to me!


Title: i like spaghetti.......
Post by: spiderman on May 31, 2004, 01:49:26 PM
am i the only gnr fan in the world who likes "the spaghetti incedent?" i just wanted to know cause i think it rocks, i know there covers but aint it fun is cool. so is buik mkane, human being, raw power. all the gnr fans i know either havent got this album or thinks it sucks. please somebody else tell me this albums cool cause im starting to think that maybe im a little bit strange.... :drool:


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: Dave_Rose on May 31, 2004, 01:52:15 PM
I think you'll find a lot of people on the board like the album I do my self a lot cos they covered great songs and did a good job even though it was slated by critics still sold well though.


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: V on May 31, 2004, 05:15:25 PM
am i the only gnr fan in the world who likes "the spaghetti incedent?" i just wanted to know cause i think it rocks, i know there covers but aint it fun is cool. so is buik mkane, human being, raw power. all the gnr fans i know either havent got this album or thinks it sucks. please somebody else tell me this albums cool cause im starting to think that maybe im a little bit strange.... :drool:

There was only one 'original' song in the album and it was not listed...

So yeah, i like the album but it was fuckin' short!


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: Slashly on May 31, 2004, 05:17:54 PM
TSI is fucking great, and don?t be sourprised if this topic ends  up having 400000 pages (just jocking about the number) with people saying the same!!


Baby Slash//


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: jarmo on May 31, 2004, 06:27:01 PM
There was only one 'original' song in the album and it was not listed...


Original song on a cover album?  :nervous:



/jarmo


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: GnR_Kel_UK on May 31, 2004, 07:08:32 PM
The Spaghetti Incident is great! There's loads of good songs on there, like Attitude, Black Leather, Buick Makane, Down On The Farm.... oh I could go on for ages!  :)


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: Evolution on May 31, 2004, 07:15:06 PM
Hair Of The Dog is fantastic!i love TSI  ;)


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on May 31, 2004, 07:31:54 PM
SIDHY
DOTF
Human Being
Aint it Fun
Black Leather...those are my favorites.


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on June 01, 2004, 06:22:57 AM
This album fuckin' rocks. I love it.

Favorite songs:

Since I Don't Have You
Down On The Farm
Human Being
Ain't It Fun
Buick Makane
Hair Of The Dog
Black Leather
Look At Your Game, Girl

Great album, a breath of fresh air. Its good to listen to covers every now and then.


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: Captain P?l on June 01, 2004, 06:53:07 AM
i love that album. its hard. i dont like Since I Dont Have you... it should never be the first track... i think its kinda boring. but the rest of the album is awesome! everysingle song. exept Put you arms around a memory... dont quite like that... :p

but the rest is awesome!


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: liquidvirus on June 01, 2004, 11:32:53 AM
whats th album artwork like?


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: Blues Mafia on June 01, 2004, 01:40:02 PM
whats th album artwork like?

... Like Spaghetti


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: MadmanDan on June 01, 2004, 04:15:42 PM
TSI is nice,but let's face it: It's nothing compared to AFD,Illusions or even Lies


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: spiderman on June 01, 2004, 07:44:20 PM

There was only one 'original' song in the album and it was not listed...

Quote

What was that then?.... oh, i presume you mean "look at your game girl" written by charles manson ya see mate you learn something new everyday.



Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: spiderman on June 01, 2004, 07:48:09 PM
by the way guys thanks. im glad other people out there like the album. my only gripe is axl; dont apear enough on that album. (or axl dont apear enough...) duffs got a cool voice in his own right though.


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: mega_music on June 01, 2004, 08:18:29 PM
I also like TSI!!
Human Being is great to crank up and rock to.


Title: Re:i like spaghetti.......
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on June 01, 2004, 11:45:17 PM
An Incident To Remember
Hit Parade - April '94
By Caroline Mellon


Four studio albums, 10 million records sold worldwide....and now its time for something completely different. Instead of going in and doing that ?kind? of the same of same old same old, Guns N' Roses did what they do so well; they bucked the system. Axl, Slash, Duff, Dizzy, Matt and Gilby (and whoever else may be in the group today) decided to escape from the mass chaos that swirls around the most controversial rock band in the world by just playing music they loved. For those of you yearning for the eternal angst of frustrated youth, what you have on your shelves now is The Spaghetti Incident?, a collection of classic punk and rock songs covered in Guns N' Roses inimitable style.

'Actually we were thinking of calling it the Cover Album,' Explained Duff. 'it's not a punk record; all of it, we did things like Nazareth's Hair Of The Dog, T-Rex The Dead Boys. We did a Fear song, I Don't Care About You. We're paying respect to certain elements of rock and roll that have been overlooked.'

'It was a very spontaneous record.' Added Axl. 'There was no band rehearsal, You just go in and do what you do, sing what you want to sing about.'

The Spaghetti Incident? is a unique collection of angry anthems. you've got an Iggy Pop classic like Raw Power, Steve Jones' Black Leather, and New Road by The Damned. Where did the abitrary aggregation of vital vinyl come from? The whole project came about courtesy of Duff.

'I have a really cool record collection,' GN'R's bassist admitted. 'I turned the guys on to The Stooges and the MC5, and stuff like that. Basically, i introduced the material to them and said, 'We should do this and this, and this, and this.' Axl got real excited and started researching stuff and said, 'We can do this and this and this and that!' Then everybody got into it and asked, 'Can we do this song or that song?' it was very democratic.
'It's a mad record, its fun. There are no airs about it,' admitted Slash.

'The bulk of The Spaghetti Incident? was recorded where the Gunners went in to record Use your illusion records, three years ago. As well, tunes have been recorded here and there, for example, the rendition of Johnny Thunders Can't Put your Arms Around A Memory was originally done for Duff's solo album Believe In Me...But Slash and Axl pleaded 'Lets put it on the punk record' so they went in and recorded it and here is The Spaghetti incident? in your faces..."

Foud at this geocities site http://www.geocities.com/rattlesnake_suitcase/hp94.htm (http://www.geocities.com/rattlesnake_suitcase/hp94.htm)
?Copyright Alan Hylands 2001


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on July 03, 2004, 06:14:06 AM
I love the cd cover on the insides. The outside looks so lame to me. Musically there is some good songs on there. If they picked well known rock songs, It could of been HUge, Afteral Metallica ripped there idea off for "Garage Inc"


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: Rebecca Duff Rose on July 03, 2004, 09:38:15 AM
I love the cd cover on the insides. The outside looks so lame to me. Musically there is some good songs on there. If they picked well known rock songs, It could of been HUge,

I think the insides mint with hot Slash n DUFF pic, and if they chose a few better PUNK songs yeah it would of been better- but they were wanting to praise their idols, and carry on didnt they.
OMG! YCPYAAAM with DUFF!!!!!  :drool:
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh its soooooo sweet! oh how he sings and i love the scream at the end of IDCAY!  :beer:
Mmmmmmmmmm!!! Its real sweet n HOT!
I adore ATTITUDE!!!
Duff sings it well, his manliness on stage, whilst singing that song rocked, him with his lush blonde hair, and his top off with those cool Sid-style trousers, him covered in sweat!  :drool:  :drool:  :drool:
Yeah I love my beloved Duff, and I love to pause it on screen! My friend thinks I'm crazy!  :o
I actually velieve that song was wrote for me!  

Ok I'll stop yakking!  :P


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: spiderman on July 07, 2004, 12:26:14 PM
I love the cd cover on the insides. The outside looks so lame to me. Musically there is some good songs on there. If they picked well known rock songs, It could of been HUge, Afteral Metallica ripped there idea off for "Garage Inc"

IMO tsi? could have sucked if they did famous rock songs, i quite like the fact that they chose some obscure choices, songs that wouldnt normaly be covered. i think its an underated album, better than illusion 1 but not as good as illusion 2 IMO. my only gripe on the album is axl dont sing on enough of the tracks (although duff has a cool voice in his own right). id like to see the new gnr play some of these songs live but i cant see it happening.


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: Evolution on July 07, 2004, 07:58:21 PM
. i think its an underated album, better than illusion 1

i realise it's your opinion but

underated? yes. better than uyi I? no :beer:


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on July 19, 2004, 06:58:49 PM
I love the cd cover on the insides. The outside looks so lame to me. Musically there is some good songs on there. If they picked well known rock songs, It could of been HUge, Afteral Metallica ripped there idea off for "Garage Inc"

IMO tsi? could have sucked if they did famous rock songs, i quite like the fact that they chose some obscure choices, songs that wouldnt normaly be covered. i think its an underated album, better than illusion 1 but not as good as illusion 2 IMO. my only gripe on the album is axl dont sing on enough of the tracks (although duff has a cool voice in his own right). id like to see the new gnr play some of these songs live but i cant see it happening.
Yeah it was Duff's baby I think. There is one song that he sings on, plays drums on, and bass on and there isnt even another GnR member on it (except Dizzy on backing vocals) I like TSI but it never seemed like a group project to me.


Title: Re:Spaghetti incedent?
Post by: FragileVision on July 21, 2004, 12:27:37 AM
It was a cool album - I enjoyed it for what it was, and I'm glad that I have it in my collection.

It can't hold a candle to AFD or UYI 2, but it's still a fun album in its own right.


Title: The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: BaDoBsEsSiOn418 on July 26, 2004, 03:50:18 PM
It's the only GN'R album I don't own...mostly because of how bad people say it is and make jokes about it.  Is it really that bad?  I know it's all covers.  Any comments would be great.  Thanx


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: PhillyRiot on July 26, 2004, 03:56:40 PM
I think Hair of the Dog and Since I Don't Have You are great songs from TSI.  The rest of the songs are alright, but don't really do it for me.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Hammy on July 26, 2004, 04:04:50 PM
I think it's damn good only track that makes me cringe is Duff singing on Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory all the others songs are real good.  It may not be a patch on the other albums by GN'R but it was never meant to be it was a stop gap 'til the official follow-up, which we are still waiting for.  Take it for what it is a great band having fun with some tunes they really like i personally think most of them are superior to the originals and it's good to have an album where the humour can hang out i mean do you really think Down On The Farm would ever have made it onto UYI1 or 2?


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: MadmanDan on July 26, 2004, 04:13:03 PM
It's only  a bad album by GNR standards.  


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Pandora on July 26, 2004, 05:22:53 PM
It's only  a bad album by GNR standards.  

I guess that's a fair statement. You gotta take it for what it is, that is a fun album of covers. Most of them are really well done in my opinion, and the sound literally pins you to the wall.  :o


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: the dirt on July 26, 2004, 05:26:21 PM
I never found it to be a bad album. It's a good covers album. I'd rather hear gnr cover songs than many other bands, so it works for me.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Johnnyblood on July 26, 2004, 05:28:47 PM
It's not a bad album, it's just not that great. The songs, the playing, the vocals, the sound... those are all quite good. You expect that much from GNR. But problems arise when you take into account that it's all covers and the band doesn't generate any electricity with these songs.

Now, I actually enjoy TSI... sometimes more than UYI. I like the simplicity, which is represented by the very simple album art and liner notes. Actually, my favorite part of the album might be the final dedication in the liner notes, "to all the assholes. If you don't know who you are, we do!" Sort of a fitting final bow from the old band, which would never release another new album.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: LittleFly on July 26, 2004, 05:34:14 PM
I really like TSI.  For a time, it was all I listened too.  Brings you back to the roots of where GNR took some of their sound and attitude....and makes you want to hear the originals.  It really is a fun album, and they covered the songs very well.  I really like how the songs themselves were not changed too much, their very much the same, but with Axl's flavor added to it.  Like someone else said, I think the "Can't put your arms around a memory" is kinda lame too.  Duff just can't sing well.  

It helps that I already liked Hair of the Dog too I guess  :hihi:  Black Leather rocks my world. I dunno, I really like all of them in one way or another.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: FlashFlood on July 26, 2004, 07:26:43 PM
Black Leather, Since I Don't Have You, Ain't it Fun, Hair of the Dog, and Human Being are all great songs.

Duff shouldn't be let within five feet of a microphone. Seriously.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: AdZ on July 26, 2004, 07:33:44 PM
Ever heard his singing on the 'Loaded' album? it's improved so much it's ridiculous.. I guess him not drinking 2 litres of vodka a day helped a lot.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: FragileVision on July 26, 2004, 07:44:07 PM
It's a fun album, and I actually like it more than UYI I (though I've never really been fond of that album to begin with).

Since I Don't Have You is a fun track, and Hair of the Dog is just fun times. The hidden song, "Look at Your Game Girl" is cool too.

Plus, you can find it relatively cheap. Here in the states, I always see it for $6.99 or so.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Hellraiser Fraser on July 26, 2004, 07:51:49 PM
I didnt buy it till recently also given the bad reviews.....BUY it , its pretty damn good, I rate it quite highly, its certainly not illusion but some of the tracks on UYI 1&2 arent that great either. Most of the stuff on here has a good hard edge to it and it'll bring a smile to yer face!


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Thorned Rose on July 26, 2004, 08:36:05 PM
Hey guys!

Ummm The Spaghetti Inncident is a good album I think. It just sold the least.

No oringal lyrics, just covers... I mean it takes a lot away.

Down on the Farm, Ain't It Fun, Since I Don't Have You are all great songs

I prefer this album over GN'R Lies

Oh yeah, that's right lol

TSI... buy it, it's a good album.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Dave_Rose on July 26, 2004, 08:43:51 PM
I really like TSI its a great album some really fun some songs on there I really enjoy listening to it


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Falcon on July 26, 2004, 08:53:13 PM
It's probably one of the worst mistakes ever made by a band at the zenith of their career.

"Duff shouldn't be let within five feet of a microphone. Seriously".

Amen.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: badapple81 on July 26, 2004, 08:55:44 PM
I listen to it, literally, maybe twice a year, for something different.

I feel the songs are really missing the GN'R edge, like they really didn't stamp their attitude on the songs at all.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on July 26, 2004, 09:41:21 PM
You can pick it up at Best BUy for $5.99 new, and its well worth it.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: BaDoBsEsSiOn418 on July 26, 2004, 10:57:35 PM
Thanx for your opinions, peeps.  Seems like the majority really like the CD.  I think I'm sold =)


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: ktucker450 on July 26, 2004, 11:43:05 PM
Yeah, I find this album sooo refreshing to listen to, and it really isn't bad at all, some of my favourite songs are on it such as Black Leather, Hair of the Dog, Since I Don't Have You, Down on the Farm, definitely worth buying if you are a Guns N' Roses fan and it's also so fucking cheap.  I saw it here in Canada at a & b sound for only $5.99.  It was so cheap I almost considered rebuying it lol.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: FragileVision on July 27, 2004, 12:00:02 AM
One thing I forgot to mention is the simplicity of the album.

After the epic and hugely ambitious UYI's, TSI is a refreshingly simple punk album - There are no aspirations other than making the disc rock, and in doing that, GNR succeeded.

I don't listen to it much, but it's a very nice change of pace when I do.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: ClintroN on July 27, 2004, 12:08:29 AM
Fuck what other people say!!!

Its a cover album n' it rocks dude(s).
All you Duff vocal haters suck too, Attitude n' Cant Put Your Arms Around A Memory are mad songs, he's cool ;D

Fav is..............hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm

DOWN ON THE FUCKING FARM!!!
oh n' ....i dont know ::) THE WHOLE ALBUM IS COOL!!!

give it a chance :peace: : ok:


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Annie on July 27, 2004, 12:59:13 AM
I like Hair of the Dog and Since I don't have you also.


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: axl_rose_700 on July 27, 2004, 04:29:53 AM
It's a similar quality to Contraband, some really good but others shite!


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on July 27, 2004, 02:30:58 PM
It's a similar quality to Contraband, some really good but others shite!
I don't think that's a far comparison. But lets not turn another thread into GnR Vs VR


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: MadmanDan on July 28, 2004, 04:37:40 PM

Duff shouldn't be let within five feet of a microphone. Seriously.


Hell yeah!! I admit I haven't heard any of his solo work,but if you're in a band with Axl Rose the only smart thing to do is pick up the bass guitar and do what you're paid to do.


Title: Re: The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: GNR-Chris on July 28, 2004, 04:49:05 PM
I don't think its that bad really, I quite enjoy listening to it every now and then.
Its good, but its not great - I think it is on about the same level as Lies IMO.

GNR-Chris


Title: Re: The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Pinball Wizard on July 28, 2004, 08:48:41 PM
The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really? - not at all...I think that Spaghetti is as good as AFD...


Title: Re: The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: ClintroN on July 28, 2004, 09:10:50 PM
Thats a fucked thing to say MadmanDan, maybe you should listen to Beleive in Me, na maybe you shouldnt, he's only just a bass player according to you :hihi:


Title: Re: The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: gkza on July 28, 2004, 10:56:57 PM
I agree. thats the best thing ive ever heard anyone say.  It is on par with AFD as far as im concerned.

 If you don't like/appreciate TSI, you don't understand what GNR is all about.  Raw and very diverse taste and influence in music (dude they cover Soundgarden(!) and T Rex in the same song).  Aint if Fun is fucking outdtanding


Title: Re:The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on July 28, 2004, 11:15:43 PM

Duff shouldn't be let within five feet of a microphone. Seriously.


Hell yeah!! I admit I haven't heard any of his solo work,but if you're in a band with Axl Rose the only smart thing to do is pick up the bass guitar and do what you're paid to do.

I have  Believe in Me. Its not on par with AFD but it sure as hell is alot better then 90% of the shit out there. Just because you are in a band with Axl doesnt mean you can't sing. Axl is great, but it adds diversity to the band and its music. I don't think Duff was "just a bass player" someone who is just a bass player, plays simple beats and copies what the guitarist is playing. Duff was original and added something on Bass. Bass is very important. Is John Deacon just a bass player? Is John Estilewood just a bass player? These guys like Duff helped write songs, some very great songs and deserve some credit.

Afteral is Slash just another guitar player?


Title: Re: The Spaghetti Incident...how bad is it really?
Post by: gkza on July 28, 2004, 11:24:29 PM
i agree.  duff is a fine bass player with a unique sound, very uncommon among bass players.  he had the attitude, the look, and was a contributor.   He brought the punk feel to GNR,   I like "arms around a memory", nice change of pace, and couldnt imagine axl singing that one


Title: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: kj_jive on September 27, 2004, 10:40:38 PM
I Just wanted to say that i just listened to TSI again...front to back and I hadn't heard it in a while.  It was amazing!  I loved every minute of it and thought it was a really great album.  I had always been so-so with this cd but i think i figured out why i liked it so much.  Its just a rock album!  No ballads, no filler just kick-ass rock.  In fact, Besides Appetite this is my favortite Guns' album of just straight up rock.  I fuckin love it! 8)


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: gnrvrrule on September 27, 2004, 11:00:13 PM
Although I don't listen to it much anymore, the more I think of it, there are few songs I dislike on the album.  I think track 11 and 12 are weak, but other than that, it's pretty solid.  Since I Don't Have You is unlike the others, but still okay, and rockers like Down on the Farm (after seeing this live from Farm Aid, I like this song even more), Hair of the Dog (I hear original by Nazareth on radio all the time), Raw Power, and New Rose are all very good.  Ain't It Fun is a nice song, and Attitude is the best 1:27 song there is.  Black Leather and Human Being are good songs as well.  It's a good album, and keep in mind that even though it's a cover album, a lot of the parts are invented, like the guitar solo on Since I Don't Have You.


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on September 27, 2004, 11:01:25 PM
Isn't Since I Don't Have You a ballad?  Overall, a good album, nowhere near as good as any other GNR release, but still good.

-Axl4Prez2004


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: JustUsOwls on September 27, 2004, 11:07:04 PM
Isn't Since I Don't Have You a ballad?? Overall, a good album, nowhere near as good as any other GNR release, but still good.

-Axl4Prez2004

Lol I think of it as a love ballad. Whenever it opens, seriously, it's just like  :love:


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: grog mug on September 27, 2004, 11:23:29 PM
I've never listened to it all the way through, maybe I should try it sometime.  I always seem to have Appetite for Destruction or the UYI's in my cd player.


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: Lady Livin on September 27, 2004, 11:46:49 PM
yes, I think it is way underrated. guns were a hard rock punk band from the get-go, so they were destined to make TSI?. I enjoy it. my favorite track is probably "hair of the dog". I also have taken a liking to that manson hidden track.. for some reason I find it absolutely gorgeous with the way axl's voice sounds, and just.. yeah.


Title: each time i play TSI
Post by: V on September 28, 2004, 01:25:29 AM
I always listen to the last 'hidden' song.

It kind of stands apart


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: Gunner80 on September 28, 2004, 01:38:06 AM
Yeah... TSI rocks pretty damn hard!


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: Mattman on September 28, 2004, 02:31:04 AM
Eh, the album is alright.  There's a lot of standout tracks, like "Ain't It Fun", "Raw Power", "Hair of the Dog" and all that.  "Since I Don't Have You"...well, I started a thread about how I didn't like the VIDEO, but I've always had a soft spot for the song.  It's just a nice, goofy little love ballad that's fun to sing along to.  I don't think they should have released it as a single, though.

TSI is Guns' worst album, but it's still pretty good.  I think it's a testament to just how great their original stuff was.


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: ClintroN on September 28, 2004, 02:37:11 AM
hail "THE SPEGETTI INCIDENT?"

it just rocks!!!! i love it


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: mega_music on September 28, 2004, 02:50:58 AM
I love TSI, Human Being is a great track to crank up and jam to.


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: DemocracyRose on September 28, 2004, 02:54:55 AM
Favorite tracks: Since i dont.... Raw Power, Aint it Fun, Down on the Farm, and Black Leather.

But i think some of the numbers are not produced very well... Maybe its the meaning of the record. I dont know.

But overall, its a great record.



Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: metallex78 on September 28, 2004, 02:59:15 AM
I love TSI. Raw Power, New Rose, Attitude, Ain't It Fun, Black Leather, Hair Of The Dog are all kickass cover versions and even the so-so songs are really cool too.
It's just a fun rock album from start to finish, and it definitely gets me in a good mood whenever I listen to it.

I think someone said something about TSI being the heaviest sounding GN'R album too, with the drums and guitars more in-yer-face than any other GN'R release. I'd have to agree with that! : ok:


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: kupirock on September 28, 2004, 03:13:40 AM
New topic everytime when somebody have listened gnr album.... ::) Is it really necessarily?


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: metallex78 on September 28, 2004, 03:33:09 AM
New topic everytime when somebody have listened gnr album.... ::) Is it really necessarily?


Who cares if there's a new topic?

Isn't easier to create a new topic than searching back through pages and pages to find similar topics to reply to???


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: kupirock on September 28, 2004, 04:00:05 AM
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=12795.0

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=12000.0

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=14047.0

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=11020.0

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=14885.0

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=12571.0


Title: Re: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: jarmo on September 28, 2004, 08:31:14 AM
Well I merged most of those threads into this big "TSI?" thread.


I remember buying it on the day it was released back in 1993. First GN'R album that I got on cd on its release date. I got UYI on LPs....

I remember reading all kinds of rumors about this album before it was released. A Hanoi Rocks track was rumored to be on it at one point.

Anyway, it's kinda funny how people say the album sucks. It's just a cover album, nothing to be taken too seriously. It's like GN'R's version of the stuff Izzy, Snakepit etc have done. Just a fun record, not supposed to be a follow up to the UYI albums.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Just listened to TSI...
Post by: kj_jive on September 28, 2004, 09:19:28 AM
New topic everytime when somebody have listened gnr album.... ::) Is it really necessarily?


Given the wealth of current GN'R news available, i'd say....absolutely!


Title: Re: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: anythinggoes on September 28, 2004, 09:36:50 AM



I remember buying it on the day it was released back in 1993. First GN'R album that I got on cd on its release date. I got UYI on LPs....

I remember reading all kinds of rumors about this album before it was released. A Hanoi Rocks track was rumored to be on it at one point.

I also brought it on the day of release but on cassette tape in my lunch break i had my walkman and listened to it all day at school during lessons a lot of my mates were Gnr Fans so they would take it in turns to sit next to me with the old headphone wire up my jumper sleeve trick. i also purchased the single Ain't it fun about 2 - 3 weeks before the album was released still got it (bit scratched now) I also liked 'look at you game girl' and was a bit surprised when i read a slash interview where he said there was a 7-8 second delay at the end of i don't care about you and people who were stupid enough to listen to the silence deserved to here that song



Title: Re: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: MadmanDan on September 28, 2004, 05:12:28 PM
I have TSI since 95,but I hated it until a month ago.Then I had to do a long drive,and I decided to give it another chance.Since then I listen to it almost every day.


Title: Re: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: LionGoddess on September 28, 2004, 08:48:11 PM
To me the album is like alot of cover albums, some songs are good, others are not. Try as I might I just can't get into this cd. It is one of those cds that I only listen too just because I haven't heard it in awhile. I don't dislike it really, its just for the most part it does something for me. I think its sad it was G&R's last effort as a band, even though it wasn't meant to be. Kinda like Pantera's Reinventing The Steel record, they weren't going out at top. I do like the fact that some of the songs they covered weren't really well known. People might have given the originals a look that they might not have if G&R hadn't covered them.


Title: Re: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on September 29, 2004, 12:15:20 PM
It is almost like Lies, not at the same level as AFD or UYI. But ... it shows another side to the band and is a fun record. Not the best CD for the old band to call their last, but its not like the band saw that coming.  It has some standout songs. I hated the video for Since I dont have you. They could`ve done a better job than having that annoying clown in there.


Title: Re: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: Wheres Izzy on September 29, 2004, 12:41:35 PM
Sometimes I think the title is actually "the much maligned speghetti incident" because of always reading "their last release was the..." in alot of gnr articles. I think that's nuts. I fucking love TSI. And I think every track on it is worth listening to. I picked it up in 95' and it led me to discover alot of my favorite bands. I started listening to the misifts and the sex pistols after hearing those tracks got me interested in them.


Title: Re: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: nyd on October 24, 2005, 09:28:19 PM
I've never been a fan of The Spaghetti Incident, I always felt that it failed to deliver in comparison to Appetite, Illusions etc. Well I finally went back and gave it a fresh listen and have to say the album has really grown on me now  :smoking: I hadn't heard it in about 3 years and although "Since I Dont Have You" still sucks I loved every other song on that album.

I know I wasnt the only person to hate TSI, it seems to be the least popular album to a large percentage of GNR fans. I want to know why most people dislike the album? Instead of expecting it to be crap; listen to it with an open mind and appreciate some awesome punk songs covered by Hollywoods hardest rock band  8)

Now that Im older I have heard the original versions of nearly all the songs on here, all of them are damn good covers... especially Human Being. Its better than the Dolls version in my honest opinion  ;)


Title: Re: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: Jonathan on October 25, 2005, 12:15:58 AM
Well I merged most of those threads into this big "TSI?" thread.


I remember buying it on the day it was released back in 1993. First GN'R album that I got on cd on its release date. I got UYI on LPs....

I remember reading all kinds of rumors about this album before it was released. A Hanoi Rocks track was rumored to be on it at one point.

Anyway, it's kinda funny how people say the album sucks. It's just a cover album, nothing to be taken too seriously. It's like GN'R's version of the stuff Izzy, Snakepit etc have done. Just a fun record, not supposed to be a follow up to the UYI albums.



/jarmo


Now that's a good answer! I totally agree to that..


Title: Re: "The Spaghetti Incident?" appreciation thread
Post by: RichardNixon on October 25, 2005, 12:54:53 AM
I think it's a good album. If you are really into punk, I could see why you wouldn't like it, 'cause it's rather glossy. But a fine album. I like 90 percent of it.