Here Today... Gone To Hell!

for a very long time ive been tryin to put my finger on exactly why music sucks these days.

I was watchin the Fall to Pieces video just now and it hit me.

There are no front men anymore at all, most dudes on mtv and vh1 look like fratboys in college or some shit.

anyhow i have a new respect for scott weiland cause he is real, i mean he isnt fake and he sings about what he has lived.? another thing scott works his ass off onstage and makes u feel everything he sings.


Will the era of real rock n roll frontmen ever come back? I mean there are very very few, i really dont consider anyone in a new band to be what i consider real.

i enjoy watchin scott perform and the fall to pieces video gave me chills because u know it is so autobiographical, just the way he had his real wife in the video and all the scenes and images.

of course matt sorum fucks that video up, mr i kiss 2 women at once, matt is still lame! :hihi: but i do love scott weiland!

Don't know....as much as I like VR, the word poser comes to mind when seeing Scott.

He is the singer and should be leading the band. And all I see him do is holding his middle finger up to anyone who looks at him. What is he, 12?????

He should get over his issues and lead this band into something beyond great instead of imitating Bowie and Iggy Pop.....

If you want real frontman, buy a Mark Lanegan album.  :P

He doesn't dance or run around on stage, he's there to sing and he means it.  : ok:




/jarmo

Hey jarmo, what does your pic mean?

Not much, just reminds me of a great day..... It's the end of the set Lanegan played in London.  :drool:



/jarmo

I feel teh same D, when I see hoobastank, yellowcard, new found glory, etc I see people singing that look like 15 year olds.. I like scott because he has a jagger bowie type attitude and apperance,, They were all flamboyant.. He has attitude, not manifactured.. Anyways anyone that followed stp can see he's a killer frontman, Core was/is one of my favorite albums

D- there's a really great thread in Bad Obsession where a bunch of us were talking about the death of the frontman and why that happened. check it out.
But i do agree about Scott. big fan of his.  : ok:

Jarmo u almost have me talked in to buying that dang mark lanegan album!

Scott isnt a poser, and come on!!!!!!! one of the great things about Axl is how he doesnt give a shit, i love scotts attitude, i love the fact he got pissed off and threw his megaphone at people, whats happened to some of u? that is kick ass scott doin that!

When Axl jumped into the crowd at st louis and popped that dude, i thought it was the coolest thing ever, same with scott!

I like frontmen who cause controversy and are real, that is scott!

Scott dances like a maniac, he is reallyinto everything he sings.

i watched VH1's top 20 countdown for the first time in months and i must say Fall to Pieces was the only video that really glued me to the tv, it was also up from 19 to 14.

It was awesome cause you know u are truly gettin a glimpse into scott's life and its not just some made up video, if VR had only performed but had an actor doin scott's part, the video wouldnt be good, but Scott is amazing in that video.

when i ever perform my own stuff again, i take pointers on how to do it from Axl,jon bon jovi and now Scott Weiland cause when they perform u know who the star is!

Well said D, I watched the countdown myself, throw a few votes there way.. I can't believe how a shit group like Bowling for soup is getting big,, 1985 sucks. only nice thing is the hot wanna be tawny. I can't stomach linkin park etither, breaking the habit sucks..

Scott is an awesome frontman, i love everything from him n the guys so far

Well, I always liked the Stone Temple Pilots, but Scott Weiland never truly struck me until I saw the video for Slither.  His performance in that video just blew my mind - he is THE rock 'n' roll frontman right now, with only Justin Hawkins from The Darkness being any real competition.  The way he moves around on stage, the skinny heroin-addict physique, hell, even the tight silver pants...it all made him seem like a real rock god, the highest class of music star.  I wish he'd kept the spiky, longish hair he had in the Slither video, though.  That was cool, but then he cut it down to close-cropped again.  Shame, shame, shame.

Scotts the best frontman out there since Cobain and Eddie Vedder in his early years. He also writes his own music and lyrics so hes definately far from a poser  ::). He can also dance which most frontmen in the past 10 years are terrible at.

Excuse the arm but Scott is a shot in the arm for rock n roll,as are Velvet Rrevolver...he has something about him that only Axl and a few others could muster

I dig Weiland as well, that said, there's plenty of great frontmen/women out there.

As Jarmo said, Lanegan is amazing? Don't forget Josh Homme, Brody Dalle, Cornell, Manson, Love. Dave fuckin" Wyndorf (who's right there with Weiland at the top of the rock heap).

Others on the rise you ask?? JS Clayden of Doheny (formerly of the seminal Pitchshifter) and Steve Isaacs (former Skycycle) of Navarro, Cheney and Perkins new outfit,? The Panic Channel.? Also, look for Jerry Cantrell to step up front? if (when?) The Cardboard Vampyres record original music.

that's a really good and often overlooked talent. i think scott is absolutely one of the best around right now. he has style, charisma, attitude, vocal ability, everything important to a front man. i personally also respond to his lyrics. i like the obscure lyrics.  :)

Jarmo has almost talked me into buying that album as well.? Now if he could just send me some money...? :hihi:


yah - I agree.? There was this one photo shoot of them where Scott has kinda long black hair, and he looked the coolest I've ever seen him look.

He is a great performer on stage.

Scott Weiland is an utterly unremarkable front man in terms of personality and ability - the whole drug addict thing was sad in the 1980's - now its somehwere between laughable and pathetic.

If he's a great rock n roll front man then people like Axl and Robert Plant and Jim Morrison etc etc etc must be truly earth shattering.

I agree their is a lack of good front man out their - Scott ain't changed that, just because he can't keep himself together and has a go at the press hardly makes him rock's saviour.....

You missed the point completely Izzy.? Scott isn't a good frontman because of his drug addiction, he's a good frontman because of his stage presence, and his ability to perform.? He gives you something to look at besides a guy standing up there singing.  He's a larger than life figure, and not just anybody could pull off his stage persona.  If you don't understand that, oh well.

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Dating personal problems?  What a [typically] irrational concept.

I relate to his lyrics too. Especially on Plush, Interstate Love song and Big Empty. It took a few years , but i noticed those songs are much easier to relate to than most anything else on the radio. He does it on so many different songs too.

I ran out to buy COre, stp is a very underrated group, and scott is a very underrated frontman,..
I'll always be for gnr first, but the fact someone goes scott is gay, his outfits are gay, his moves are gay, is just bullshit especially when you have the same type of frontam in axl that is known for his cigarette holders, biker shorts borderline women's underwear, plus all teh glam in the early days.. I liked all opf axl's clothes but to say scott is gay then that utter stupidity.. Even the dancing with axl is nothing great, ever see the orgasm face he makes, he does it in the vmas..

The point is no fan of gnr should be calling anyone gay, I feel that way about both guys

so u are sayin scott and axl are both gay? :hihi:

i think scott and axl are two of the coolest fuckers to ever get on stage!

Sometimes i get embarrassed by Jon when he starts poutin his lips and shit but i realize its just the music and the power!

I don't know, I like the whole pout thing from 80s rock.  But then I like almost everything about that genre, even the stuff that other people don't like - the big hair, the makeup, the spandex, the [cough] biker shorts.  And did I mention the music?

Not at all, you got what I was saying.. I think it's just silly for a fan of either to say that about either singer.. I agree with mattman, I loved that time...
To a degree the ones saying scott is gay are forgetting that he is wearing similar clothing to what axl had during the afd era, before he decided to get his biker shorts

axl and scott's dancing turn me on, so.

I think Scott is at a realy cool point. So many people are ready to knock him or label him a loser that theres probably nobody who could give a fuck less what everyone has to think about them and I really dig that. He seems to only care about what the people in his life think, like his wife, kids, and bandmates. And that should be all that matters. Very cool.

i really like scott to the point if he in concert said "Fuck Axl Rose, this Is Velvet Revolver" id find that pretty fuckin cool and ballsy.

Axl's my hero, i have his skull tattoo on my forearm and his initials in it, but i applaud anyone with balls and the fuck u attitude to say something like that.

Just like i didnt get pissed at axl for sayin bon jovi can suck his dick.


I love when people express their opinions but dont back off and apologize.

apologies are lame, if u didnt mean it u wouldnt have said it.  so i just wonder if scott will get fed up and say something like that one day?  he already dissed axl's eyebrows. i just wonder if he would say something bad?

Scott has alot of respect for Axl and GNR, because he started his music career in LA. Sex Type Thing sounds like early GNR, i dont think Scott dislikes Axl. If anything, he probably likes his music. Set Me Free sounds alot like Axl, it was even rumored Axl liked the song.

uh, who said that? ???

Never heard that either..

Weiland is a poser.... he can't decide whether he is Jim Morrison or Bon Scott. He's real alright... real thin...... someone should through that guy a rib or something.  He wears a cop hat pretending he's Axl, but he uses his speakerphone like he is still in STP? Weiland is still a pretty good singer, but for some reason he possess's this wonky poser/what group am i in style that comes off as confusing and lackluster (in my opinion).

It was posted on the official VR message boards twice when Set Me Free first came out. It isnt fact just rumor, but alot of people close to the band would post there, and noone ever refuted it.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but hes trying to look like Judas Priest not Axl. Sometimes he wore police hats in STP, he would say "welcome we're Judas Priest!!"  That is Axls coolest look though...he should have kept that in his repitoure more often.

I think the thing about Scott Weiland that seperates him from the rest of the pack is that he just keeps getting better with age, while most singers (Eddie Vedder is the ultimate example; Chris Cornell sounds really bored with Audioslave, Tom Morello is the star there) get stale after awhile.  Not to put down the DeLeo brothers at all, but I think Duff and Slash bring more out of Weiland than those guys could.  Being clean and sober hasn't hurt Weiland, either; he's really only getting started while the rest of his grunge-era peers are washed up or dead (RIP Layne Staley).  Weiland is a survivor, and his legend is only going to continue to grow long after everyone else has been forgotten about.

Really? I agree with him sticking around and I love Scott's voice but I think it def isn't as strong as it was on say core.