Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Guns N' Roses => Guns N' Roses => Topic started by: norway on September 17, 2004, 06:13:18 AM



Title: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: norway on September 17, 2004, 06:13:18 AM
Does the mastering news means that axl and the other member are totally finsihed with their job on the disc?

Cross my fingers for that they get satisfied with the first mastering attempt :nervous:
 :peace:


Title: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: McClane on September 17, 2004, 08:27:52 AM
Everyday I come here to read GNR news, sometimes even twice a day, and I still think that sometimes in the near future, I would find a topic that says: CD is leaking on soulseek or direct conect or whatever...And this morning, I'm more optimistic than ever with the CD mastering who is supposely been done by now and the february release date that Dizzy let us know. Maybe Axl is a freak and there's a lot of security around the studio but there's no way a big album like that can't leak...it's just to big, someone will finally put their hands on the cd, or at least the demos...If it's true that they were hoped for a november release, it's because the album is almost complete...and this time, it's seems that it's really close to be complete, even the mastering is done according to Tommy and Dizzy so let's say the album will be 100% complete in a month or so, probably sometimes in novemver...Then we will probably get some leak songs from the long awaited Chinese Democracy...My guess is that it will leak in mid-november...


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Crashdiet on September 17, 2004, 08:37:08 AM
yea but do you really wan to spoil the whole experience of going to the store, unwrapping the cd, and sitting on your couch absorbing the album for the very first time???

I haven't waited this long to spoil the initial listening with a crappy bootleg



Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Nytunz on September 17, 2004, 08:38:56 AM
yea! I really hope it wont leak! That would be sad!


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: McClane on September 17, 2004, 08:41:54 AM
I just want to listen to it as soon as possible...then I will buy it the next second it will be avilable in stores !


Title: Re: Completely done?
Post by: Crashdiet on September 17, 2004, 08:44:44 AM
Tommy said they are starting to master..... that could take a while yet... but yea that means they are done all their performances and mixing... the toughest parts



Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Sino-lieS on September 17, 2004, 08:49:51 AM
All I can say is this message board will explode when it does come out!! :beer:

And No I would never download a crappy bootleg! I would wait a little longer and buy it. I have waited  a tenth of a century for GnR's next album....whats a few more weeks? ;D


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: ClintroN on September 17, 2004, 09:27:13 AM
no way it'll leak, it's a $13 million vault


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: madagas on September 17, 2004, 09:55:46 AM
Who said the mastering is done? Last I heard they hadn't started yet. ??? Which means the album is not done.


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: vicarious existence on September 17, 2004, 10:03:18 AM
I'm with crashdiet, I'd rather not spoil that giddy feeling I get of going to the music store and listening to it for the first time in my car... that's what I did with Contraband, I refused to download the bootlegs or listen to the stream on MTV.com, and I'd say it makes it much more exciting to listen to the CD for the first time when it's an official copy.


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Rhythm-n-Booze on September 17, 2004, 10:08:52 AM
Who said the mastering is done?

exactly.
And even after it is done, theres no way i'm going to wait this long and download it early. I'll wait till it comes out.


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Will on September 17, 2004, 10:13:45 AM
Tommy said it should start sometime soon, so it's not done yet. And even during the mastering, I don't believe it will leak. And there's no way I'd download it if it's crappy 128kbps MP3 anyway. I might think about it if it's lossless (SHN, FLAC, APE) but MP3 no way, I don't want to ruin my first listen of something I've been waiting for 11 years.


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: killingvector on September 17, 2004, 10:45:09 AM
if some song leaks, of course most of us will take a listen. Nothing wrong with an appetiser before the big meal. Contraband leaked before it came out from what i recall d/l from some radio station.


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Will on September 17, 2004, 10:47:00 AM
Yeah but I waited Contraband a year or so... :P


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Mattman on September 17, 2004, 11:02:22 AM
Okay, let's pretend that Chinese Democracy DOES leak.  The consequenecs of that could be very dire.  What if Axl goes ballistic and decides not to release the album at the time originally planned (ha ha)?  What if he hears some negative comments about the songs and retreats back into his cave?  The guy seems pretty fragile to public opinion.


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Rhythm-n-Booze on September 17, 2004, 11:08:07 AM
Well he DOES have a record label to answer to as well. They won't have every last thing ready and if a song leaks and Axl flips, they won't just say "Oh, shit! Axl is pissed!" It'll be released if we're that far along.


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: PeterCoffin on September 17, 2004, 11:14:42 AM
Tommy said it should start sometime soon, so it's not done yet. And even during the mastering, I don't believe it will leak. And there's no way I'd download it if it's crappy 128kbps MP3 anyway. I might think about it if it's lossless (SHN, FLAC, APE) but MP3 no way, I don't want to ruin my first listen of something I've been waiting for 11 years.

Audiophiles...? ::)

Also, where is this mastering news?


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Will on September 17, 2004, 11:19:34 AM
On this site! ;)

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=1156


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 17, 2004, 11:29:41 AM
I wish one song would leak, it would be the ultimate promotion, word of mouth, people outside the forums getting a listen.. I think that would be great...

Lets be honest everyone on the forums will buy the album no matter what, so one song leaking won't do anything but good,..

I still want to hear the IRS leak, I keep forgetting to ask piazza when I go to Met's games :hihi:


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Hanoi_Guy on September 17, 2004, 11:41:48 AM
..And mastering of Appetite For Destruction took almost a year..  ;)


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: jarmo on September 17, 2004, 11:46:06 AM
If a song leaks, they should just offer it as a free download or put it on iTunes as soon as possible. So people who wanted to hear it could do it legally instead of having to look for it.

Unless it's an unmastered or demo version of the song.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 17, 2004, 11:59:49 AM
If a song leaks, they should just offer it as a free download or put it on iTunes as soon as possible. So people who wanted to hear it could do it legally instead of having to look for it.

Unless it's an unmastered or demo version of the song.




/jarmo


Of course that would be the way to go, but I would think someone like axl would get a kick out of letting one go and see how people react.. I think that would be a great thing.. :smoking:


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: estranged.1098 on September 17, 2004, 12:09:08 PM
Or they could just release a song as single.  ;D


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 17, 2004, 12:11:12 PM
Or they could just release a song as single.? ;D


That would be the best, but without an actual release date I don't think it'll happen.. I don't know what road this band will take with singles n videos, but usually they go hand n hand, and I haven't heard anything about a video...

Greenday did the right thing by getting american idiot out way before the album hits stores..


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: estranged.1098 on September 17, 2004, 12:14:31 PM
btw, someone please edit the title of the thread... mastering is not done yet.


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: badobsession81 on September 17, 2004, 12:15:08 PM
this is all well and good, but from what i can make out, all that's been said is that stinson 'imagines' it'll 'start' being mastered in oct/nov... that doesn't leave me hugely optimistic, but it is good to hear that progress is being made by the sound of things! have i missed an interview or something?

bob


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: AC on September 17, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
The day a song or the album leaks is the day I remove myself from visiting this board until the actual album is out (I don't want to hear a word about any song until I hear it first hand). I don't care if it's months in advance, I'm not ruining this wait to listen to crap quality mp3's or ogg files. No way! The first time I hear CD will be at home on my mixing monitors!

Aaron.
P.S. - I think I just sharted.


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: horsey on September 17, 2004, 01:41:04 PM
no stinking leaks for me.i will wait for the cd to hear it for myself.im planing a big party for the occasion.a few friends and some other goodies.it should be a good turn out.good music with good friends.


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: yagami1gnr on September 17, 2004, 01:53:31 PM
Remember, that Dizzy said that are like 3 versions of one song. What if they let leak one of the less appealing and in the album appears the best version.  :smoking:  :peace:


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 17, 2004, 01:56:39 PM
Remember, that Dizzy said that are like 3 versions of one song. What if they let leak one of the less appealing and in the album appears the best version.? :smoking:? :peace:

Not if it's a planned leak done by the band, dizzy did say they had songs like 5-6 years old that they kept doing..I'd love to hear the first few versions to see how much the songs changed..


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: McGann on September 17, 2004, 03:22:18 PM
When the "Bad Apples" demo leaked in early-mid 1991, it was slightly different.  The mix was a bit more raw, it opened with a countdown, and Dizzy's piano was not yet present.  I liked the song as an appetite-whetter, and it was a cool contrast to the finished product, but even at the time I felt a little guilty when I found out it was being played against the band's wishes.  I'd rather not see any leaks.
Back then leaking wasn't nearly the problem it is now, and there was only one leak, and it was quickly suppressed.  I think the current band's precautions virtually guarantee no leaks.
/Mike


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Mikkamakka on September 17, 2004, 03:35:17 PM
If there is a leak, I will downoload it, but I won't listen it but one song I'll choose randomly. But if Uncle Axl changes his mind and doesn't want to release the album and postopones it again, I will listen the whole leak.  :yes:


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: dave_guns on September 17, 2004, 03:38:45 PM
Anyone who thinks a release this big won't leak is an idiot.  When it does I will try my best to hold off though.  As much as I want to hear new material I've waiting so long that the experience of hearing it for the first time, with cd in hand, should be a lot of fun.


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: SuicideUZI on September 17, 2004, 03:59:38 PM
Tommy said it should start sometime soon, so it's not done yet. And even during the mastering, I don't believe it will leak. And there's no way I'd download it if it's crappy 128kbps MP3 anyway. I might think about it if it's lossless (SHN, FLAC, APE) but MP3 no way, I don't want to ruin my first listen of something I've been waiting for 11 years.

i guarantee CD will be on the internet before the public can buy it in stores whether it be a week or only a day beforehand, but i doubt it will be because of a leak during mastering or anything in the studio, and it wont be 128kbps it will either be 192kbps or variable bitrate


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: McGann on September 17, 2004, 04:05:37 PM
i guarantee CD will be on the internet before the public can buy it in stores whether it be a week or only a day beforehand

Is that a money-back guarantee??? :hihi:

/Mike


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Will on September 17, 2004, 05:44:42 PM
Good one... ;D
If it leaks just a day before the release, that would be no big deal at all to me. I waited 11 years, it's not like 24 hrs would be the end of the world. I don't like MP3s anyway so it would be even easier for me!


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: grog mug on September 17, 2004, 06:38:14 PM
I've never seen anyone in the band say anything about a CERTAIN release date until Dizzy said they were planning November but shooting for February.  This means the album WILL be done by the end of the year.  BTW, Axl doesn't care what the public opinion is, he'll know when its done.  He's putting the album out for himself, not anyone else.


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: axllovin89 on September 17, 2004, 06:46:39 PM
i think axl will end up making a brill album he has the most amazing mind when it comes to lyrics and i totally admire his views on the world, mainly i find that life sux.... but i'm a teenager i dont know any better :hihi:  :D


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: Kitty on September 17, 2004, 06:58:54 PM
I haven't waited this long to spoil the initial listening with a crappy bootleg
ditto

I just really hope that it dosen't leak waayyy in advance, cause I don't want to hear about it before I listen to it.


Title: Re: Mastering is finally done...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 17, 2004, 07:04:48 PM
I haven't waited this long to spoil the initial listening with a crappy bootleg
ditto

I just really hope that it dosen't leak waayyy in advance, cause I don't want to hear about it before I listen to it.

I understand what everyone is saying, part of me just wants to know it's real.. It's like I can't believe one day someone will actually say a release date, an actual point in time I can see on my calendar.. I know it sounds weird, I just feel like it will never come out.. I count the wait as since I about the SI.. It must be a little easier for newer fans.. I've been expecting something since Oh My God..


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: NickNasty on September 17, 2004, 07:30:56 PM
I like Clintron's "$13 million vault" thing...I just think this thing is under such lock and key physically and legally that it won't happen...that being said, I won't lie, IF a leak occured, I would certainly check out a track or two for a sampling, but would wait  for the entire release before I heard the whole the thing.


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: younggunner on September 17, 2004, 08:46:30 PM
Quote
That would be the best, but without an actual release date I don't think it'll happen.. I don't know what road this band will take with singles n videos, but usually they go hand n hand, and I haven't heard anything about a video...
There are no singles or videos in sight because they dont have an album release dat yet.
Once they have a set date the single will come approx a month beofre the album with a video...

I really hope a leak doesnt come out. Im gonna hold out though. Maybe Ill treat myself to only the songs we have already heard. Other then those and the single, I wont listen to anything else. We will know when we hear the first single if its a great album or not...


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: estranged.1098 on September 17, 2004, 10:17:52 PM
I really hope a leak doesnt come out. Im gonna hold out though. Maybe Ill treat myself to only the songs we have already heard. Other then those and the single, I wont listen to anything else. We will know when we hear the first single if its a great album or not...

I was about to post the same... but I'll add that it depends on how much sooner than the release date the album will leak. If things work out it will leak in less than a week before the release, in which case I'll wait.


Title: Re: Completely done? + Mastering soon...so CD will leak pretty soon !
Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on September 18, 2004, 08:46:47 AM
if CD does leak, i probably will end up downloading it but i wont listen to the whole album.. only Chinese Democracy, Madagascar, The Blues, Riads, and Silkworms.. songs i already heard a million times..