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Does anybody else feel that Tommy has stepped up to fill Slashs shoes in the band more than the guitarists have?  Beside being one of the longest-running members, from the few performances Ive seen of the new GNR, he seems have the most charisma and chemistry with Axl.  Its a connection that I dont see much with the other members.  He seems to be emerging as the "other" personality in GNR...

Buckethead was the most adequate replacement for Slash technically, but he could obviously never serve the same role due to the fact that hes Buckethead.  That intangible emotional connection that was present between Slash, Axl, and the fans just could never be possible with Buckethead...although his presence would have surely made for an interesting alternative.  That anti-emotion would have worked in a bizarre way...Maybe hell come back soon  8)

I guess that bond could exist with Robin Finck...I just dont see it.  Finck doesnt have much presence to me.

Fortus is as charismatic as Tommy, maybe even moreso...But he seems more singular.  Ive yet to see the same level of chemistry with Axl...and because hes newer and rhythm - the same level of leadership (although Tommys bio says hes lead?). 

Of course its my belief that Slashs role in GNR is irreplacable...but out of everyone in the new band, oddly enough, I think the bassist has come the closest.

I always thought the same thing, they seem to be real good buddies at the shows.

Robin does have some of the chemistry, just check out the ending of SCOM at MSG and the massive grins they give each other, I think I read an article on the main site saying something about a friend of Tommy saying he was filling the Slash role, I just can't remember which article it is.

Don`t they call Tommy the General. He seems to be the link between Axl and the others, and orchestrates what goes on around him. I would argue that even Pitman has more presence than Buckethead. It doesnt seem like he`ll be back from what Tommy`s said.

In my opinion, Tommy Stinson is like the spokesman of the band. But Richard Fortus is the new member who have the most important potencial of impact for the general public. I think that Richard Fortus has the potencial to become a worlwide superstar, not as huge as Axl or Slash, but he has a great potencial.
Richard Fortus has a phenomenal stage presence.

when you watch the rock in rio show, it's pretty obvious that tommy & axl get along really well : ok:

As u challenge every post i make i feel obliged to return the favour

Because Tommy gives interviews doesn't make him the 'other' personality in GNR - Dizzy has been giving interviews (and false release dates) for years - and without question he has the most 'chemistry' with Axl, after 14 years they are either really good friends or in love :hihi: because Axl seems to get rid of everyone else after about 5 years...

There is no 'other' personality in the new band close to the presence Slash had - its just some members enjoy being in GNR more than others and some (around the time they have shows/albums out :no:) decide to talk to the media more

Certainly Tommy is a 'visible' member of the band (unlike Mr Pittman....i'm still waiting for an interview with him or any sign of life at all....) but i wouldn't draw too much from a handful of shows (in which most of the band stand like statues) and a few interviews that coincide with his albums release.

I must say i like Tommy though - seems genuine enough.

I never included interviews in my reasoning...I credited it to stage presence.


But Dizzys a keyboard player, and even though hes probably closest to Axl, he can never have the same stage presence or performance chemistry with Axl as somebody who isnt at the back of the stage behind a keyboard.


I agree...I was just commenting on who comes the closest.? I would have clarified that even "closest" isnt remotely close to what Slash (or even Duff and Izzy) was, but I was trying to keep the negativity to a minimum.


I noticed this most during the Rio performance of "Patience".? I wouldnt compare the passion or intensity to Slash, but the interaction and chemistry was cool nonetheless.


Same here...

Well, you know how we speculate that a big reason things are the way they are in GNR is due to legal problems/issues, right. Axl dissapears after the Philly no-show for months because of Clear Channel, and potential lawsuits, and many other instances...

That said, Pittman may be MIA because of a lawsuit himself -----> The battle over who is the real Mother Goose.

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Unfortunatley for Pittman, it does'nt look good :no:

He steals children too? Oh the humanity!

Where's Izzy Chris?

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Robin is my man.

I don?t look for Slash in new GNR. If forced to, I must take robin for now.:coffee:

The band structure of new GNR is, dear I say it, more like lil Beatles+ZEP. 

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I would have said Love Spit Love and Nine Inch Nails... :-X

Oh, year? I thought it better to name big names everybody would appreciate.

Plus I put lil. 8)

Im sure Nesquick appreciates your statement... ;)

Tommy's definately brings some much needed credibility to the new line up, he's a respected guy with the track record to back it up.

No!

It turns out that Billy Morrison(read Falcon's thread) is the new Slash.  :confused:

Later on you said that you're forming this opinion based on the live performances you've seen.  I dont disagree with you, but I think appearances can be deceiving.  Robin's strange appearance might be masking whatever chemistry and emotional connection he has with Axl.  I cant speak for the others (Fortus, et al) - they just seem like satellites revolving around Axl.

Is Robin the only one who's not currently doing anything extra while in GN'R?  I dont recall any remotely recent interviews from him other than the damage control statement he made for the Lisbon cancellation.  Dizzy tours with his own little band, as do Tommy and Fortus.  For this reason I feel that Robin is the 'other' personality of the band.  A silent personality more along the lines of Izzy, rather than Slash.  Remember Izzy did not have incredible stage presence either, but his influence on the music is undeniable.  I think this is important - in my mind Axl doesnt want another Slash figure in the band (someone as dominating on stage, I mean), but I do think he's looking for another Izzy.  He has searched a long time.

Im sure Tommy Plays a important role in the new GNR lineup...! Not only as a bassplayer :yes:
And it seems like he realy injoy beeing in the group!

I'd say Tommy is probably the closest equivalent to filling Slash's role in the chemistry of New GN'R. But even after New GN'R makes it big, I don't know if we'll be seeing him with the kind of celebrity power that Slash built up in Old GN'R.

Tommy seems to be in line with Axl's creative direction, is obviously a huge musical talent, and doesn't appear to be the kind to start a lot of shit. I see no reason why he would not stick around for the long run. I think it's the same way with Robin.

I defenitly think that tommy is kind of the new leader next to Axl...he does the interviews and the promotions...and the updates...very proud of tommy

Fortus' stage presence is the same as I would expect it to be from any other boyband guitarist, to me he seems absolutely like a 100% fake-ass on stage, no charisma, just hitting his guitar, trying to look cool (which makes me wanna beat the shit outta him even more...)

Fortus can still play the November Rain solo way better than Robin...

I think he's a lil fake too... But he improved the guitar work with The Blues and Madagascar and that's what it matters to me.

yeah he's a good player, no doubt about that!

Robin Finck's an awesome player but not as awesome as Slash or even close to his guitar god status.

i think now that bucketheads gone tommy will be the new star of new gnr just because of his legendary pedigree and contribution to rock n roll, he has undeniably chemistry with axl and sticks by him, tommy rocks