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Title: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: gnrmandee on September 01, 2004, 08:29:51 PM
  I think a lot more albums were sold after people saw the Fall To Pieces video..I say this because i think that the album went up on the charts and i know that there are way more members on the official forum than there was two weeks ago.. anywayz does anyone know if the video made it on the vh1 countdown last week? i didnt get to watch.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: tomass74 on September 01, 2004, 09:11:25 PM
It has been selling at just over 30,000 albums a week for ahile now.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 01, 2004, 11:13:11 PM
The  vid is lame and if im not mistaken the GHs album is higher on the charts than contraband.
Atleast it was  a few weeks ago.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: oldleadbelly on September 02, 2004, 12:00:05 AM
The? vid is lame and if im not mistaken the GHs album is higher on the charts than contraband.
Atleast it was? a few weeks ago.

Yeah, the video is lame, unlike someone who devotes way too much time bashing a band that actually has an album out. ::)


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on September 02, 2004, 12:03:12 AM
The? vid is lame and if im not mistaken the GHs album is higher on the charts than contraband.
Atleast it was? a few weeks ago.


25 26 VELVET REVOLVER RCA/RMG 32,260 -5%
21 32 GUNS N'ROSES GEFFEN 29,867 -15%

Last week they sold more then VR and this week VR sold more then have been switching back and forth for a few weeks. With 2 top 20 rock singles VR is getting alot of radio play, wether or not they can crack the top 40, with FTP,  is what will sell


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: Naupis on September 02, 2004, 12:55:49 AM
I'll bet the guys care less as they're making money either way. Must be nice to have two platinum albums on the charts at the same time. And if that video is considered lame, than you must hate every guns video ever made as that wreaked of guns influence......but let me guess...Its different when Axl is acting out his thoughts and feelings but Scott just doesn't cut it?


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: liquidvirus on September 02, 2004, 01:47:34 AM
The? vid is lame and if im not mistaken the GHs album is higher on the charts than contraband.
Atleast it was? a few weeks ago.
why do you even come to the VR section of the site ?

Side note, i think the effect of the single on album sales would be seen in another week or two when it really starts to catch on


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: matt88 on September 02, 2004, 08:17:39 AM
The? vid is lame and if im not mistaken the GHs album is higher on the charts than contraband.
Atleast it was? a few weeks ago.

Yeah, the video is lame, unlike someone who devotes way too much time bashing a band that actually has an album out. ::)

Well said oldleadbelly : ok:


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: MeanBone on September 02, 2004, 08:39:10 AM
well i dunno about everyone else. but i had contraband on mp3 for a while and i really didn't think it was an album worth buying. but after seeing Fall to pieces not only did i buy the album but i also learned 8 songs from the cd on guitar. i dunno why, but something clicked. i am now listening to the cd everyday and loving it. when i first got it. i didn't think much of the cd... well maybe the video does have a strong influence  : ok:


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: PhillyRiot on September 02, 2004, 10:02:59 AM
DAVGNFNR - You obviouslyt like Velvet Revolver, otherwise you wouldn't be visiting this forum so often.  I HATE Justin Timberlake, so I DON'T visit his message forums.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: Slashly on September 02, 2004, 09:17:38 PM
If that is the reason, it is perfectly normal.I mean wasnt AFD, not selling THAT much until SCOM was realesed as a single??









Baby Slash//


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: Top-Hatted One on September 02, 2004, 09:56:05 PM
well i dunno about everyone else. but i had contraband on mp3 for a while and i really didn't think it was an album worth buying. but after seeing Fall to pieces not only did i buy the album but i also learned 8 songs from the cd on guitar. i dunno why, but something clicked. i am now listening to the cd everyday and loving it. when i first got it. i didn't think much of the cd... well maybe the video does have a strong influence? : ok:

I know what you mean! there is something about actually being able to play the songs that makes you appreciate them even more. I've learned most of the album all by ear! With Guns it  was impossible to learn them without looking up the tabs


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: kupirock on September 03, 2004, 04:20:18 AM
The? vid is lame
why do you even come to the VR section of the site ?

oh! now i get it, you can only praise VR in VR section...


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: Mikkamakka on September 03, 2004, 05:05:13 AM
The? vid is lame
why do you even come to the VR section of the site ?

oh! now i get it, you can only praise VR in VR section...

No. But if you only have hatred against them and you're always posting your fuckin' biased opinion, then you'd better visit a psychiatrist. Everyone has the right to criticise VR, but it seems that some retarded persons find their only pleasure doin' this.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: kupirock on September 03, 2004, 07:48:44 AM
The? vid is lame
why do you even come to the VR section of the site ?

oh! now i get it, you can only praise VR in VR section...

No. But if you only have hatred against them and you're always posting your fuckin' biased opinion, then you'd better visit a psychiatrist. Everyone has the right to criticise VR, but it seems that some retarded persons find their only pleasure doin' this.

WTF!!? Wait a minute you mean me or dave-gnfnr2k ? ...

if me please tell me when i have posted biased opinions? and have hatred against VR?


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 03, 2004, 09:30:14 AM
The? vid is lame and if im not mistaken the GHs album is higher on the charts than contraband.
Atleast it was? a few weeks ago.
why do you even come to the VR section of the site ?

Side note, i think the effect of the single on album sales would be seen in another week or two when it really starts to catch on

I agree, people expect miracles in a short period of time... Wether anyone likes it or not they debut in june 7th (usa), they are platinum, and a new band... Things take time... It's only been about three months, look at afd it took a year to climb to one with the power of scom.. Gnr fans are spoiled, let revovler run it's corse// Fall to pieces will do great if it gets the airtime it deserves... Fighting the emo fags is very difficult, it will take time.

Just keep voting for mtv 2, and much music

I love how I read people who only like new gnr dislike vr, meanwhile the boots we have are average at best...  :rofl:


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: N.I.B on September 03, 2004, 05:27:31 PM
Quote
I agree, people expect miracles in a short period of time

were not dealing with The Doors here. Imagine GN'R or VR coming out with 3-4 albums a year.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: slashedguns on September 04, 2004, 09:31:02 PM
The? vid is lame and if im not mistaken the GHs album is higher on the charts than contraband.
Atleast it was? a few weeks ago.
Why is the Video lame dave?? Give me one good reson..oh wait i know, because your false messiah Axl isnt in it.  Think outside the square Dave,your depriving yourself of great Rock n Roll.. Ps,,Axl wont find out if u like VR i promise


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: N.I.B on September 04, 2004, 09:39:19 PM
Thats so stupid what a lot of u guys are saying. Axl is allowed to show his emotions in Don't Cry, but oh no! As soon as Scott tries to do the same thing all hell breaks loose. Let's face it, this is GN'R. VR has more GNR in it then Axls so called "new GNR". So don't get pissed at Scott, he has as much right to do this as Axl does or did. So give Scott a break.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: starchild_666 on September 05, 2004, 08:09:09 AM
FTP is great song, it has a great video... we'll se if this will increase album sales...


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: liquidvirus on September 05, 2004, 11:37:27 AM
The? vid is lame
why do you even come to the VR section of the site ?

oh! now i get it, you can only praise VR in VR section...
i never said that!
hey i thought it was a girly song myself till I saw thw emotions behind it, reflected in the video.
but, i would like to know why it's lame. and why the fuck did he have to bring up the GH and contaband comparison....completely unecessary.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on September 05, 2004, 07:58:42 PM
The? vid is lame and if im not mistaken the GHs album is higher on the charts than contraband.
Atleast it was? a few weeks ago.

Is it just me or is it just an assonine thing to compare Greatest Hits to Contraband.  Dave is using GH's to Say Axl is doing better or using GH's to support his claim that the current GnR is better then VR. If you think about it on GH's there is 3/6 (or 3/5) of the GH's members in VR on contraband. When you say something like GH's is selling better its not an insult to VR, its their past and right now they have TWO PLatinum albums to back them up as they are doing a world tour.

If you want to put VR down with numbers or chart positions, Dave, you need to wait til CD comes out for a few weeks then you can crunch the numbers and put down VR. You can't just say GH's is selling better or "when CD comes out its gonna sell huge and out do VR" those are just your opinion and you're gonna have to wait til your ideas become facts.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: tomass74 on September 05, 2004, 09:05:25 PM
The? vid is lame and if im not mistaken the GHs album is higher on the charts than contraband.
Atleast it was? a few weeks ago.

 ::)  Mind telling us what the fuck Gn'R's un-greatest hits chart position has to do with fucking anything????


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: N.I.B on September 05, 2004, 11:12:43 PM
it doesnt just people making stupid comparisons. Vr is not GNR. stop comparing the two bands. Slash, Duff, and Matt can still play. so there no need to compare them to the past.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: jd#7w on September 06, 2004, 10:31:06 PM
I try to not have any feuds with people on this board but Dave u r one biased motherfucker.  GH has absolutley nothing to do with gnr just stop pissing people off with ur blind loyalty to axl.  Vr aint gnr. FTP vid has nothing to do with GH. And axl hasnt done anything to prove that CD will do much better the Contraband.  You can comeback with ur post about how great maddy and the blues are too and sound even more fucked up by judging the success of an album thats been in the making 4 like 10 years over too pretty good songs they played live (i may be putting words in ur mouth but thats usually how people that senselessly think CD will dominate VR and if i im wrong about ur opinion im sorry and id like to hear what it is).  Sales dont really matter in rocknroll in my opinion. Rock should be judged by how much u enjoy the music not by comparing the GH of a band the debut of a band with ex members in it.  And yes GH does have better songs on it and thats cuz its a collective compliation of the "best" songs from the entire 1 of the best bands in history. Comparing  that to the debut cd of a band that was made in like 1 and a half years is retarted. So please either open ur mind a little or suck up to axl somewhere else cuz all ur doing here is pissing people off and making urself sound retarted (and i think i can speak for a lot of people when i say that but if im wrong id like other members to tell me but thats just the impression i get).


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: gnrmandee on September 06, 2004, 10:31:35 PM
it doesnt just people making stupid comparisons. Vr is not GNR. stop comparing the two bands. Slash, Duff, and Matt can still play. so there no need to compare them to the past.
people listen ok? GN'r and VR are not the same band.. and it is so fuckin stupid to compare GH to CBif you are trying to compare Axl to VR...did u not know that GH has 3 VR members in it? and only 1 Axl... you are just making yourself look stupid if i am not mistaken...


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: Eeebs on September 06, 2004, 10:46:00 PM
All I have to say is that during the VR concert here in Toronto, the one and only song that really stood out on it's own and really struck me emotionally was "Fall to Pieces".  It is a beautiful song and I am so glad it was released as a single.  The video is also very good.  I haven't heard Fall to Pieces on the radio all that often... hmmm... seems to me that making a few requests are definitely in order! :)


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: Mr Cowbell ? on September 07, 2004, 02:37:25 AM
I've heard it on the radio quite a few times on a pure rock station. If VH1 or MTV stopped with all the bullshit shows(like real world and a-z/best week ever) maybe I would get to see some videos.


Title: Re: Fall To Pieces = More albums?
Post by: TK1 on September 07, 2004, 06:20:27 PM
I kind of liked the video.  It wasn't an overblown reduction and if you know anything about Scott, you know there is a real sense of truth to it.  I'm really hoping we get a 'You Got No Right' video for the fourth single...

As for the comparison to the Greatest Hits sales, that's really comparing apples and oranges.   People try to some how relate that as Axl being more popular than VR.  It has absolutely nothing to do with Axl and his new line up.  If anything, it's a great statement about how great and influential the original GN'R were.  I'm anxiously waiting Axl's CD to finally drop, but I really think to many people outside of these forums, 'Guns N Roses' will always refer to the original line up.  Just my opinion!