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Strokes Smell Roses In November

The New York band, The Strokes, have announced plans to recreate Guns ?N? Roses? "November Rain", which will be on their next album.

Singer Julian Casablancas said "GNR is a big influence on our music and we just wanted to show that by doing one of their most complex songs." He also went on to say that the band wanted to do this song for years, but wanted to establish themselves with their own music first.

"I don't think, until the past year, people expected us to do covers. We did "Clampdown", we did "Salty Salute", and since both of those were well received we just said ?Fuck it, we're gonna do this.' So now we're working on it and we'll see how it goes", says Albert Hammond, guitarist.

The new album has been said by the Strokes to be different from their first two (2001's Is This It and 2003's Room On Fire). The band has also come off a huge tour and some events, including the V festivals in England this past weekend, and Little Stevens International Underground Garage Festival on August 14th.

The next album, which has no title yet, should be expected early 2005. The bands next single, "The End Has No End", should be out later this month.

? Joe D'Angelo, MTV.com

Should be interesting...cant wait to hear it.

I don't know...they're gonna have to cut a lot out...you don't want to spend 9 minutes of your album on a cover song.  I'd say they'll probably just do it a bit faster, just guitar.  It'll have to be a complete re-invention, so it looks to be interesting.  But I think the Strokes should cover "You're Crazy" or "Nice Boys" or something like that.

Never heard anything by the Strokes - and don't plan on changing that : ok:

I am not a fan of the strokes. I hear them on the radio alot and can't picture them doing this song any justice.

This is hopefully a joke  ::) :P

Wasnt Slash in one of the strokes videos???

Yeah, Slash and Matt...

Doubt itll be any good...if it is you can all punch me in the balls  :peace:

The Strokes are good for about 2 tracks, *is this it* and *trying your luck*? : ok:

...as for November Rain, well i can't imagine for one minute how it would sound performed by them. Interesting for sure, but no where near as good as the original? ;)

Why would you be proud of ignorance? 


 

If it's true, I don't really see that coming to any good  :-\   Such different styles...... Maybe a shorter and harder song could have worked, but November Rain is a weird choice to say the least.
Besides, I would never have guessed The Strokes were influenced by GN'R  :confused:

the idea of the strokes is scary just like when i heard sheryl crow was gonna cover sweet child, I still cant stand listening to the crow version

The funny thing is if you believe the press, The Strokes and the new wave of "the" bands are supposed to be the antithesis of "pompous" and "overproduced" rock (sic) like November Rain  :hihi:

The whole anti GN'R thing is over. It's 2004, not 1994, and a new band like the Strokes giving props to GN'R just confirms that they are getting back into the good graces of the music community. No one gives a shit about Smashing Pumpkins or Bush anymore, or any of that anti-GN'R jazz.

This is really cool.

I'm talking about the press, not what the bands say. Still recently, I've seen magazines opposing that new wave to what they called pompous rock, and they cited GN'R.
But Julian Casablancas saying that proves once again that music journalists have no idea what they're talking about.  :P

I wonder if it will be the entire song or if they'll do a video for it.

OH NO that would be horrible.
By the way has anyone heard Avril Lavigne version of Knocking on Heavens Door i can truly say that he raped that song.

Well if they're going for a completely different style, it might be interesting..

They could just do a "short" guitar version. Kinda like the one on a GN'R bootlegs.

I don't understand why people are upset about bands covering GN'R. It just means that they like the songs.....




/jarmo

that's great news! i love the strokes!
and BTW Duff was also on the video. ithe video was someday : ok:

kewl, what bootleg version is that jarmo?

I Hear you Jarmo, and partly agree, but IMHO the covers of my fave band should generate a reaction. A positive one at that.

"Do yorself a favor and go find the originals"  : ok:

Of course nowdays it's easy to download the original even if you didn't like the cover, but I'd still prefer every GNR-cover to give the reaction "Whoa, that's a great song. I wonder what the original's like." instead of "Whoa, that sucks major ass. Why did they cover such a bad tune? I never wanna hear anything GNR-related!"

And naturally it doesn't matter with people who are familiar with the GNR catalogue, but for kids & people new to GNR.

Like the one available at http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/audio.htm



/jarmo

I've never understood how I can be such a big fan of GNR when there are so many other GNR fans who are so narrow minded about different kinds of music. Why do we both like the same band so much? I guess it means GNR attracts some hugely different followings.

I'm definitely curious to hear the Strokes version of NR. Jarmo mentioned (and has posted -- http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/audio.htm) the short demo versions of NR)... I have always preferred those to the album version.

It's taken many years for me to begin to appreciate the album version of NR, which I do more now than ever. But still, for a song that was supposed to prove their artistry, I hear too many obvious influences throughout the song (esp Layla and about 25 Elton John songs). So maybe an abridged, more guitar-based version would bring something interesting out of this song.

should be interesting... I can't wait to hear it if it's true.

Who the fuck cares if they cover it. Good for them. Ive always wanted to see a band cover some gnr tunes and see how it comes out. Its no biggie. Old GNR already have thier place and history and a cover tune wont fuck it up....

That's kind of nice.  It seems like an impossible song to cover, but whatever.  The Strokes are still hipster darlings, it just gives GnR more cred.  Not like they needed it, but you know what I mean. 

I think Slash plays in it too. I have the video.

yeah Slash is in the video.


I can't wait to see how they are going to do this , should be cool. :beer:

No problems here if they want to cover it, good for them...

Just do not release it as a single, keep it an album track or better yet, a b-side.

So when exactly DID Avril get that sex-change operation?  ::)

I don't really care if they will release it as a single or b-side and it's no big thing if they are going to cover November Rain. I mean we are talking about The Strokes here..but good for them if it will turn to be great cover and if they will fuck it up, it doesn't still bother me too much..again, we are talkin about The Strokes here. I guess they are way much better on live than on a record.

yeah i know its horrible bob dylan should sue

My thoughts exactly. I wonder if hardcore fans of Bob Dylan or Paul Mcartney feel the same way about GNR...

who knows madman, maybe we should ask some

Can`t say I know more than 1 or 2 sings by those guys.

If they cover November Rain it would be a first. It could be really cool or really awful.

But you have to give respect to them for covering GNR, it shows some of the newer bands great music is timeless.

Ha-ha, ccorn69, I sometimes wonder what die-hard Bob Dylan fans thought of the GNR version.? :-\


Oh, yeah? I can understand easy why you can be such a big fan of GNR.? 8)
What I?ve never understood is how anyone so narrow minded about different kinds of music can be a big fan of GNR.

Saying that, I have no idea about The Strokes.? :-[ If they?re so different in style, it should be interesting to hear their version of NR.?
Even if it sucks, what?s the big deal?
After all, it?s not GNR covering The Strokes. :peace:

i don't really like the fact of a band like the strokes doin a Guns classic...it just doesn't seem like its gonna be good at all

I wish the new GN'R would cover this song on a world tour with an album called Chinese Democracy out.

The Strokes arent that bad. I rather listen to them than any of the other "New Rock".

Also I rather a rock group do a cover of a Guns song than the rapper who is redoing WTTJ or whatever it was he's doing.

The Strokes are one of the most farcical bands I've ever seen come down the pipe....They are affluent, priviledged, privately educated guys posturing as lower east side trash, looking as if they had just emerged from a dump...GNR LIVED the life....The Strokes are emulating it...The music is modular...every riff in every song could easily fit in any part of any other song...The Melodies and progressions are all exactly the same....Holy Christ!!  No kidding, Lou Reed singing through a processor....fuck the strokes and fuck their dim-witted fanbase....more power to em.....

Whatever...they make good music.  :yes:

I just cant picture the strokes doing November Rain

I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact that you find that to be important speaks volumes.

Another band covered it a few times live too,i think they were called Nu guns n Roses,did anyone hear about em? They singer was almost identical to Axl.

I can totally see why that's important. He's making the observation that guns looked the way they did from actually living like that and the strokes are trying to throw some image at you.

Whether you like them or not, The strokes are one of the most popular rock bands right now. They are heavily influenced by GNR. I'll be looking forward to hear their particular version of NR.

Volumes about what?  The fact that I appreciate a bit of substance to the artists I enjoy as opposed to some contrived retro effort to shift albums?  The fact that you decided to isolate that part of the post instead of my criticism of the actual music must be speaking volumes as well....All in all, it's just another reason to view them as insignificant in my eyes, that's all.

Enough of the anti-The Strokes posts. Seems like everytime an artist mentions GN'R or covers a GN'R song, we get the same "that band sucks" posts.....  ::)



/jarmo

Jarmo, give me a little more than that here, ok?  My dislike for the band has very little, if anything, to do with the GNR cover.  I could give a fuck if they were covering GNR, Slayer, or Charlie Parker...I believe I'm entitled to post my views on the band without having it explained to me why I see them the way I do.

The fact that GN'R LIVED the life, as you put it, is just one of many things that made them the greatest rock 'n' roll band ever.  However, note that I said "one of".  Good tunes were another, and as far as I'm concerned, The Strokes have those in abundance.  They're one of my favourite current bands.  Their songs are all so catchy and so unpretentious, it seems like good old fashioned rock 'n' roll without trying to be, like Jet.  Songs like "Last Nite", "Someday", "Hard To Explain", "12:51", "The End Has No End"...they're just catchy, melodic rock that you can have fun with.  And I like that.  So they have similar melodies and progressions?  You could say that about any number of bands, like AC/DC, the Ramones, Motorhead, and all blues bands.  The Strokes are less so than any of those groups in that regard; their songs have variety.

You know, people always say that the Strokes are ripping off the Velvet Underground.  But I listened to this Velvet Underground CD once - I think it was the one with "Candy Says" on it - and it was nothing like The Strokes.  It was just slow and boring, with a lot of artsy pretentions and stuff.  Maybe Julian Casablancas sounds like Lou Reed, but he's infinitely more fun and charismatic to listen to.  The Strokes are a great live band.

I guess I'm the only one here who likes Avril Lavigne's version of KOHD.

Can't wait to hear what the Strokes will do. I enjoy some of their music.

Right you are brother. I still like em' though. : ok:

I could give two fucks about image. We obviously listen to music for different reasons. Besides, have you even listened to the music? GNR (in the 80s) sang about gritty street stuff etc., but The Strokes have never tried to pull that off. So they dress a certain way? Get a life.

Read my previous post. As for substance, if you can't get any from The Strokes, well that's just your problem. I've been able to get a lot out of their music and lyrics. Now is this conversation interesting? Is it going to lead anywhere? Doubt it.
And I don't see how them being retro takes anything away from the substance.

The reason I didn't comment your views on the music is that I partly agreed with them. Yeah, the songs are very similar. Still love it though.

Errrr i don't like the sound of this. I see November Rain as the legacy GN'R left and i never want it touched by any band.

couldn't have said it better myself. little trust-fund babies trying to be "dangerous".  ::)

Seems I've missed this whole thing. Can you give me some examples of The Strokes trying to be dangerous?

The Strokes = other bands -> Bad Obsession.  :-*


I wish more "current" bands could cover GN'R. Maybe we could get a GN'R tribute with all these "new" bands covering GN'R intead of those 80s bands trying to imitate GN'R's songs.



/jarmo

I think this is fake.  I just checked out The Strokes news archive at MTV.com that's credited for reporting this and I didn't see anything.

The Hives and The Vines are better, and The White Stripes rock ass.

The Strokes... They leave a lot to be desired.

I've said "the" too many times.

I'd like that as well, but I think GNR's time time to be recognized/cited/covered/paid respects to will probably come within the next generation of new acts.? In time, AFD era GNR will be lauded and hopefully, become influential to up and coming rock acts.? There's still quite a bit of "uncool " stigma surrounding the name, nothing that time won't take of though...

can anyone provide proof that this story is real? I wanted to send it to a couple of friends who love the Strokes but don't like GNR, but cannot find a record of it anywhere at www.mtv.com or on the net.

is this fake?

I'll agree with you on that, Jarmo...The recent metal tribute didn't cut it

I think it is, I just checked MTV.com

It was found on a GnR rumours site and we all know that GnR rumors are a dime a dozen.  Probably someone just typed up this article and slapped an MTV credit on it.  Because this isn't on the MTV website.

To all you Strokes naysayers, do you remember a band called the Rolling Stones? Did you know that their lead singer was attending the London School of Economics before he wrote songs like Jumpin Jack Flash, Sympathy for the Devil, and Street Fighting Man?

This guy is the blueprint for every rock poser that ever lived (including Axl Rose) and his family was never hurting for money. You've either got it or you don't... which applies to both money and talent. One does not disqualify the other.

True, poverty brings about a desperation that can be very exciting in rock music. But there are plenty of poor people and druggies and other kinds of criminals who can't write a good riff, write a cool lyric, wear tight fitting leathers, or strut across a stage to save their dirty little tails.

If you want to call the Strokes overhyped, go ahead. I'll agree. But to say that they are too rich to cover November Rain, which isn't exactly a 'street' song, that's just silly.

EDIT: Since I apparently tipped the boat on this thing, I added emphasis to the parts of my post that discuss MORE than whether or not I like the Strokes.

Next person who goes on talking about The Strokes and how great/bad they are will get this one locked.  : ok:

I'm tired of repeating myself over and over and over again.

This still isn't the Megadeth, Metallica, The Strokes, Nirvana, Britney Spears or Vanilla Ice section. If your memory isn't that good, read the lines above the posts.




/jarmo

The Strokes are a so so band in my opinion, the thing with this cover is that the Strokes vocal simply doesn't have what it takes to do all the november rain diferent moods, he always sings like he is falling asleep during the middle of the song. Also I am not completly sure about this, but I don't remember a stroke song with anything that is not like the most lame guitar licks. I don't think those guys could actually play slash solos, so in my opinion they are probably going to make the crappiest cover in a while, I hope they prove me wrong though ;)

Damn it dude... I thought I could talk about Britney and THE ICE MAN here...

U sad man - have u nothing better to do than follow me from thread to thread? Not listening to a certain band is a sign of ignorance now? - i know what type of music they play, don't like it and thus don't listen to them. Simple.

Everybody?s ignoring this post... ::)
Really?
If so, what are these 4 pages of hassle for? Then again it was fun as usual.  :-\

November...denied

it's just something IMO that you just leave alone, no Stairway or Smoke on the Water.
They are classics n' a band like The Strokes IMO shouldnt dare attempt at a song like November Rain!!!

bloody hell...

Hey I just spend $46 on a Dylan ticket last week and HE didnt even play Knocking on Heaven's Door. Dylan also only played Keyboards all night and didnt ONCE play guitar. If he aint gonna play it someone should, its a great song.

but Avril...c'mon mate, my sister saw her n' playin' Greenday n' was the most horrible thing ever...
and her doing Knockin'...na ::)

Since nobody can prove this thing is true and many of you are interested in discussing other bands in this thread, I'll lock it. 

No thread for you, next! :P



/jarmo