Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Okay, so Def Leppard released Hysteria in 1987 and Guns N' Roses released Appetite for Destruction that same year as well.

So, I was wondering what people thought as to what the better album is?

I like Appetite for Destruction just for the fact that I dig G'NR more than I dig Def Leppard.

Gee I wonder. What a thread.

hahaha why don't you first see how many people you meet will admit they own hysteria.

I love the first four Def Leppard albums, they rock. After Steve Clarke died, however, the band should have called it quits.

I'll "admit it" whatever that means. Def Leppard did a lot more (and still is doing) than Guns has as a band. (Read: As a band, before you cry babies get all upset and write a novel explaining to me how much better AFD is then Hysteria :hihi:)

Hysteria was one of their best albums I think. I have seen them live 3 times in the last 4 years and they keep getting better every single time. They put on such great shows and really appreciate their audience.

Unlike other bands.... :-\

I personally can not compare the two bands. They are both great, but IMO two different types of rock n roll.

Well, Appetite For Destruction was really a reaction against Def Leppard kind of pop-metal.  Where Def Leppard spent years in the studio perfecting their crafty pop-rock with elaborate production techniques, Guns N' Roses stumbled into an L.A. studio and roared through their screaming punk-metal in one or two takes per song (oh, the irony....).  They're both great albums - I haven't been able to stop listening to Hysteria this summer - but two very different animals.

I'll have to agree with Skeletor, though - I don't see too many people on a Guns N' Roses message board saying they prefer a Def Leppard album to GN'R's grand statement.  Unless you find somebody who frequents a lot of different message boards.

You're asking a question like this on a GN'R message board...

Cool... maybe we should do a poll on the main site...  ::)

Yeah, its like asking, who do you like most, Slash or Buckethead....??  :hihi:

The first two Def Leppard albums were not huge mutli layered produced monsters. They were in the vien of AC/DC and Judas Priest. Starting with Pyromania they really got their sound and it continued with Hsyteria.

You'd be suprised. :rofl: :rofl:

I think it is funny how I prefer Hysteria over AFD...

Get over it people! Def Leppard are a great band...

Hysteria spawned 7 singles....

7 singles of the 12 songs made the top 100

"Women" being the loser at #93 in the U.S.

Hysteria I think is in the top 5 best selling albums in rock history.

Actually Hysteria is number 41
Appetite is number 20

GN'R of course

yeah but you're forgetting about longeivity. AFD is one of those albums that still and always will be mentioned in the pantheon of the greatest albums ever. Hysteria is def not. And if you ask casual fans of music if they heard wttj, scom, PC they have. Same can't be said about the entire def leppard catelogue.

1 person says Def Leppard and he's outnumbered.  ;D

I admit it.  I like Def Leppard a lot!  :yes:  Of course I was into AFD much more when it came out, but I hit both concerts!

I can proudly say I don't own anything ever released by Def Leppard, and for this contest....: GNF'R!!!

Well I listen to Hysteria a lot more - is it better? Not sure, like i said i listen to it more - draw whatever you will from that.

Its a fantastic album - okay its in a very 80's style but i love 80's rock and i ain't gonna apolagise i was listening to Hysteria before i was listening to GNR - and i was 8 when i first heard gnr.

Ps. on a GNR board this is a bizzare thread...

OH MY GOD!
DEF LEPARD!!!  :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :lmao: :lmao:  (if i've spelt it wrong i'm proud of not knowing how to spell the crappest band in the worlds name)
on scuzz it once asked "what has 9 arms and 10 legs?...
def lepard of course"
 :rofl: :rofl:
*puts on pathetic voice
"LET'S GET LET'S GET LET'S GET LET'S GET ROCKED!!"
*cringes

Like you needed to know what my answer is.  ::)



It's been a long time Dizzy and...HAIR METAL still...SUCKS.

Thank you very much

Yeah, and Guns N' Roses isn't hair metal at ALL, as these pictures illustrate.? ::)

(http://www.axlguns.blogger.com.br/axl%20welcome%20to%20the%20jungle.jpg)? ? ? ?(http://es.geocities.com/gnr_paradise/dissuicide2.jpg)

Like it or not, GN'R were from the same scene as Motley Crue, Poison, et al.

Hair metal RULES, and Def Leppard is one of those bands that still stands the test of time.? :peace:

Uhhh, Def Leppard stands the test of time. Excuse me for a second. HAHAHHAHAHAHAH. Yes, GNR was part of the glam metal crowd, but not the commercial hair metal segment of it. There is a big difference between GNR and crap like Def Leoppard and Poison. You know what that is....It's talent.

My local rock station is pretty conservative, so it only plays the biggest old bands.  So for the 80s, it plays Bon Jovi, Guns N' Roses, and Def Leppard.  It does NOT play Motley Crue, Skid Row, Poison, Warrant, or any of the lesser known 80s hair metal bands.  This is one indication that the band is still popular.  Another is just that you still hear a lot of their songs.  During my school prom this last June, I heard "Pour Some Sugar On Me" TWICE...once at a party at some guy's house before the dance, and the second time during the dance.  People heard those opening chords, and it got a rise out of the crowd...they all rushed out onto the dance floor to get down.  I doubt that they would have done that with (or even recognized) "Talk Dirty To Me" or "Cherry Pie".

Def Leppard also manage somewhat higher record sales than other hair metal contemporaries.  Their last album, X, debuted at #13 on the Billboard charts.  The last Motley Crue studio album reached like #38...the last Poison album, somewhere below #100.  Also, Def Leppard still managed hits throughout the 90s.  Adrenalize was released in 1992 and went multi-platinum.  So did Retro-Active in 1993 (and it had a big hit, "Two Steps Behind").  The Leps had their biggest UK hit in 1996 with "When Love And Hate Collide".  Right now the band is below Bon Jovi levels of stadium success, but far above those three-hair-bands-at-a-bowling-alley package tours.

And as I said, the music.  You still hear "Photograph", "Pour Some Sugar On Me", "Rock Of Ages", and all that stuff all over classic rock radio, unlike most hair bands.  Def Leppard was always one of the more talented hair metal bands, anyway.  Where Poison hit it big with three-chord rockers, the Leps had intricate, textured songwriting with lots of sonic treats and good guitar work.  Their ability to write catchy choruses is up there with Bon Jovi, Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, etc.  Basically, I like them because they're a good, fun rock 'n' roll band.  You might not like them, but I do, and so do a lot of other people.  That was really all I was trying to say.

They're both great! end of story. : ok:

Agree On That But AFD is Better Than Hysteria  :P

Same here. : ok:

I'm sorry but i jus have to say.. HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU PUT GUNS N ROSES THERE WITH DEF LEPPARD???? Ok they both had the big hair but so what? I think the catogory "Hair Metal" is pathetic... how can you group bands by there appearence?? I suppose you put Gn'R with Poison n Bon Jovi aswell then?
Gn'R are hard Rock
Def shitty Leppard, Bon crappy Jovi n all the other crocks of shit are soft rock

Yes they may share the hair but name one similarity in their music...
Go on....
I'm waiting...

Ok so i'm only 14 but i still no that it's absolutly pathetically stupid to group Gn'R with that shit just because of their hair

Thank you.. i'm finished

Never understood people's problem with Def Leppard.

Because they were massive in the 80's? GNR were too...

They sound ''80's''?...er....well GNR could be described the same way, and many people do, even on this board.

They were hair metal? And that affects the sound of the music? GNR were hair metal too.....

Because they were more more pop orientated? Good dam what do u call November Rain and Sweet Child o'Mine then?

Def Leppard aren't for everyone but for good ol' rock n roll with some truly killer guitar work they are one of the very best, and live they are awesome - in their 40's!

Nirvana all had heads of shaggy hair? Why aren't they hair metal?

It's all about the VOLUME of the hair.  Nirvana had hair at shoulder level that was flat and shaggy.  Bands like Poison and Motley Crue had towering explosions of hair that stood up and went everywhere thanks to abuse of Aqua Net.  Now you know.


One similarity in their music?  Okay, Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses both had loud guitars.  They both had vocalists that sang with odd, high voices.  They both sang about sex a lot.  The main difference is that GN'R were harder-edged than most 80s pop-metal bands.  Other than that, they were pretty similar.  They looked the same (big hair, leather, scarves), came from the same scene (the Sunset Strip....GN'R supported Motley Crue live), had similar attitudes (it was all about sex, drugs, and raising hell), and favoured a musical approach with loud guitars, screeching vocalists, the whole "guitar hero" aspect, and singing about sex and drugs.  GN'R were simply rawer than most.

ok timeout, this is about def leppard and GNR, lets not drag Bon Jovi into this

last time i checked Bon Jovi are still the biggest selling/drawing band to come out of the 80's, so lets not include them! thank u!

Actually, a lot of people include Hysteria in the pantheon of greatest albums ever. Maybe most fagot ass critics don't, but I have my own taste so I don't need some loser writing for a rag to tell me if an album is great or not. If I did, I'd listen to Shitvanna.

And you're clueless if you think most casual music fans wouldn't know PSSOM, Photograph, Love Bites, and Brining On the Heartbreak. Yes, it can't be said about the "ENTIRE" DL catalogue, but most "casual fans of music" haven't heard of Dead Horse or Rocket Queen or Locomotive, so I don't know what you're smoking.


As for the topic, Hysteria is tied with AFD for being my all time favorite album, so I can't choose.

I am aggravated and pissed off the the 2 bands are even being compared. When def leppard came to providence last year a friend of mine said he went and there was like 500 people there, maybe.........   Appetite all the way.

And your point is.......?

Def Leppard sell more tickets to their shows than GNR did when they returned : ok:

I don't believe that for a second.   :P




I know you don't give a shit what I believe and that's Okay.

erm...Guns N' Roses :yes:

totally late to this thread.
mattman, you summed it up really well. it bothers me that Def Leppard gets nowhere the respect it deserves. Pre-Hysteria, they released great music. On Through The Night and Pyromania are great albums, Photograph, Bringin On The Heartbreak, Rock of Ages are classic tunes. Hysteria, though an amazing album, coming out when it did, with the sound it did, killed some of their credibility once the 80's ended. People also don't realize that Def Leppard didn't play any part of the Sunset scene. They weren't an 80's hair band in the typical sense and their success prior to Hysteria helps support that fact.
And you are right. they put on great shows still and care about their fans. i was backstage at their show in NYC last year and Phil Collen came back and chatted up everyone there even though it was clear that he was tired.

One thing I always wondered about their drummer, wouldn't it have been easier to get some sort of drumming prosthetic than to learn how to play one handed? Hear me out, think like a real long drum stick attached to where the remainder of his arm ends. like half a broom stick long, and then file the end like a drum stick. I think that sounds easier than learning how to play one handed. Altho I don't know how much of his arm was left because I am not a fan so that may determine whether or not this was feasible.

 :hihi: Good idea!

Prosthetics aren't that good - its not like u have ur old range of movement back - he would have too little control to make that any kind of option - he lost the entire arm up to the shoulder.

I have all their albums and seen 'em live, and he may have one arm but the drumming is still fine - so what ever the hell he's done its working.

WOW! What a thread! This is like when VH1 said "The ABC of Rock:Axl,Britney and Christina"

I don't mean to be an asshole but I wasn't trying to compare G'NR with Def Leppard, I was comparing Guns N' Roses Appetite for Destruction with Def Leppard Hysteria.

I like both, just depends on the mood but I prefer AFD.

2 totally different bands. GNR wew more harder edged and less about image.

Def Leppard were more pop oriented metal. They are also a great band, but for different reasons.

lol  :hihi:
did VH1 really say that??

This thread is pointless man...think about it urself...you are at a guns n' roses fan forum and ur asking if we like def leppard better? come on! its kinda easy to figure out that gnr is gonna win at this forum!!!!!  ::)

Lol - check the VR section - there are a huge number of people on the board who despise the band. Don't ever fool urself into thinking ur dealing with rationale people here :hihi:

By "this band", do you mean people who hate Velvet Revolver or people who hate the new GN'R?  Either way, you're probably right.


Ya know, I read in Maxim magazine's "25 Greatest Moments In Metal" or something like that that the drummer, Rick Allen, was arrested in like 1992 for beating his wife.  Wow, talk about the setting the standard - not only for crippled musicians, but also for crippled assholes too!

I was dismayed to read that.  I've always admired Rick as a symbol of perseverence in the face of hardship, and then I found out he beat his wife.  That sucks.