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I was thinking today about why isn't the new gnr considered a supergroup?
Think about it, you have VR who is considered one, they got members of gnr and stp.
Audio slave is considered one bc they have members from soundgarden and rage.
Temple of the dog was considered one and so was mad season, but the new gnr is not.
They have Axl and Dizzy from old gnr, tommy from the replacements, robin from nin, fortus from psychiallic furs, bh from a lot of stuff and brian from primus.
So why arent gnr considered a supergroup is it just because they kept the guns n roses name?
When Cd comes out, i still dont see them being called one.

Well super groups just change there names and to be honest I didn't know who any of the new gn'r members were until they joined GN'R

Maybe it's beacause Brain, BH, Fortus and Pittman aren't considered Super enough.

Their acts didn't sell that well, STP + GNR did...

And maybe they don?t want themselves to be considered so?

Do you think "super group" sounds cool?

I don't think it's up to them, what people consider them to be.

I thought talent has nothing to do with sales? Hmmmm

Wheather it does or does'nt, that's beside the point, and your question.

I don't think that they care if they are a super group or not. In my mind they are and i'm sure in alot of your minds they are to, and that should be good enough for us

NIN, Primus, and the replacements are all very popular, that is my point.

Trent Reznor and Les Claypool are popular.

Dave,

the simple answer is this :

No one (the majority of the developed world) knew who the fuck Tommy, Robin, Buckethead, Dizzy , Richard etc were before they joined GnR (and the majority of the developed world STILL doesn't).

The names Slash and Scott Weiland are HOUSEHOLD names to many many people in the world.  Duff and Matt are known well out of the league of Robin and co.  So, that's why.  They have made way more of an impact in the world of music and that's the simple fact.

The fact they are under Guns N Roses name I think keeps them from it the most. Usually a Supergroup froms from 2 Huge groups and they pick a new name.

The replacements were alright but they werent to mainstream level.

Wasnt he also only a touring member with NIN, not a studio member?


When the average person thinks of supergroups they think of two big names that when emerged make something greater. Being a subpar band doesnt really cut it. Adler's Appetite isnt considered a Supergroup by the mainstream.

I know what you are saying Dave, but neither of the new gnr members were the most popular names within those bands. Had Axl recruited Trent, Les Claypool and Paul Westerberg, we would be talking about a supergroup.

What GNR could be though, is far more talented than VR or Audioslave, but we are yet to find that out.

Edit: and by the way, the Replacements never were highly popular.

Basically its because the members of GNR werent that popular. Robin really didnt have that much of a impact in NIN. NIN is all about trent. And Brain and Bucket are more underground and not known. Same with Fortus. The only one that peopel would really know about is Tommy.

Supergroups are when the all stars of bands join forces.

So if Axl got lets say Twiggy, Zak Wylde, and Dave Grohl that would definately be considered a supergroup....

That leads to another thing. Im glad to see that Axl didnt go that route. Im glad he let things run its course and a band developed rather than trying to get all stars. Thats what will make things much sweeter when CD is released. If in fact CD is great,it will be from a bunch of guys who had no big mainstream success. And thats whats exciting. Thats why I love this band. They have evolved into something and now the music just needs to be heard.

Yes the name is there. And no doubt it helps, but when it gets down to it, its about the music they make. Its going to be a fun ride. I just wish the line wasnt this big.

I 2nd More Cowbell.


OK, but who consider so and why. Isn?t it the media who tells people how and whatever to call them in the majority of case? I thought Dave is referring it, right, Dave?
Still I?ve heard n seen occasional Supergroup calling on them from non-media people tho.
Then what if they describe themselves as non-super group to the media people?

I'm only suggesting this as one of faint but not so impossible option on the side.

Because I'm sure it?s just me, but "super group" somehow sounds, "bunch of has-beens".

Two logical reasons:

1. They're under the brand name GNR

2. The players you mentioned were amongst a revolving door of musicians (less Stinson) in their respective groups they played in and weren't creative forces or considered prominent from a public standpoint. 

BH's clainm to fame up until GNR was a failed audition for the RHCP.

early 90's when there original guitarist died. Flea said they liked Buckethead but he wasnt there style. Something to that effect.

I thought it was pre Dave Navarro or directly thereafter, not sure.

Maybe someone can dig up the timeline..

Ah so supergroups have less to do with talent and more to do with other things.
That is why most mainstream music sucks.

But like i said on madseason was a supergroup but besides the singer there was not really  a huge well known name in that band.

Not sure either. But im almost positive it was early on when the original guitarist died. I remember watching it on BTM. Could be wrong though

With VR and Audioslave, the concept is played out to perfection.  Both talented beyond reproach with creative credibility out the wazoo along with the obvious popularity of their previous bands.

Where are you trying to go with this?

You dont think axl, tommy, robin, bh and co are creative beyond reproach?

As for audioslave they are vastly overrated.

As for tom and chris in audioslave no one else is popular and as for slash and scott in VR the other members are not that popular either.

When the album comes out, and people start getting to know the individual members, the term "super-group" will be heard often. The general rock audience doesn't even know who is in the band...

I really dont mean to start another thread liek this but I must ask....What is so creative out of Contraband? Talented no doubt...but wheres the creativity. Everyone has said its a straight foward rock record.

Obviously Axl is.? Tommy to a much lesser degree, while BH and Robin have done absolutely nothing
creatively within the confines of successful group


Opinion....



So?? It's still the melding of creative forces from prior bands, individual popularity nonwithstanding.

It was just said they had to be popular or well known from the other bands to be a supergroup so which is it?
You cant have it both ways.

As for BH in the confinds of a group, have you heard of Praxis? Even if you have not, tht does not matter, his solo stuff still shows off his talent and he has worked with ALOT of people for different kinds of music.  That alone gets BH big points.

And how is tommy to a lesser degree? Did you hear some of the stuff he helped write in the replacements? Did you hear his solo album, which was much better than duffs might I add, whom you think is oozing with talent.

That's ok... Dave doesn't know either (yet he still thinks they should be a 'supergroup')...


Who the fuck are the Psychiallic Furs?


 :beer: Cheers on a great thread.

Being labeled a supergroup these days isn't cool. We should be thankful.

Isnt this the same board that claims album sales are not an indication how talented or good a band is? yet now people some of the bands this guys from gnr game from didnt sell a lot of albums and are more underground is a negative thing.

Wow how hypocritical can some people be on this board.

I was not gonna say this but the people in this band are more talented than VR and audioslave.
Neither band has a song that can come close to madagascar.

And BH may still be in the band, and he will be on the album, thus that is why he is included in my point.
if you notice when ever BH is brought up, they said he is still under contract and leave it at that.

So that tells you he still might be coming back.

I totally agree with you on that. But with that being said, new gnr have to prove it. If they were able to mesh their talents and make it work with Axl then its all gravy. But until we hear that album, they are unknown. All of their solo efforts are great..but lets see hwo it works in this band. I personally think its going to be great but to be fair we have to wait and see.

I didn't say that....


Well I have, but not too many outside of our little GNR/Primus world have...



Are you trying to equate Stinsons' creative credentials to that of Axl Rose?? Have you gone absolutely mental?

And where exactly did I say Duff was oozing with talent?? Documentation please.


Again, where are you trying to go with this?? Same old direction it looks like...

As always you love to twist stuff.
Like I said Tommy is just as talented as duff and id say much more. So how was I comparing Axls talent with Tommys?
And you said VR is oozing with talent, and last time i checked duff was in Vr.

Contraband isn't exactly oozing with creativity.....but one could argue nothing of the six songs we have heard from GNR are exactly earth shattering either. The Blues and Maddy...while great songs....sound like nothing more than a track from the illusions era. Nothing revolutionary. The same goes for C.D, Rhyiad, and those other two hell pits I refuse to name. They are nothing worth writing home about, at least not 10 years worth of wait good. Slash, Duff have shown they are every bit as creative and genius as Axl because they provide the music for every song the man has released. Try and knock their solo work all you want but the fact remains that the entire GNR catalog is currently littered with Slash and Duffs work and that is what helped make the band we all know and love. Everything they are doing at this point it gravy. They have two platinum albums this year, not bad for a bunch of hacks that road Axl's coatails. ::)

I never said he wasn't.


You asked me how was Tommy "to a lesser degree" while in my original post I stated Tommy had creative credentials, albeit to a lesser degree than Axl Rose, hence your comparison, not mine.



As a whole sure, they've combined along with Scott Weiland to create a successful album by known creative forces from 2 previous major acts.

Where have I exactly said something to the effect "Duff is more talented than Tommy?"

This was originally a good topic with reasonable reasons/theories for the lack of "supergroup" tag...same old song and dance...

Madagascar sounds like nothing off of the UYI era, plus we have only heard the live versions and not studio tracks, and if they sound this good live, they are going to be amazing on the album.
Most fans hated nov rain when they first heard it live, but loved it when they heard the studio version.

Madagascar is one of the best gnr songs ever written and its only filler for CD according to Axl.

Maddy will sound exactly like November Rain. Same power ballad formula with the big orchestra fills and piano's and organs and whatnot. It is going to sound exactly like what it is, a studio creation. Listen to the November Rain from Nobelsville and then the CD with all the extra stuff. That is exactly how Maddy will be, it will have all that stuff and sound cleaned up. The formula is exactly the same in terms of production value. The only difference is that one has the samples and the other doesn't covering the solo. Maddy didn't exactly recreate the wheel. I love the song and it is one of my GNR faves, but in no way would I consider it revoltionary or like nothign we have ever heard before.

Madagascar has looping parts which nov rain does not, so right there its diff.
You cant tell me any song that has horns and a piano in it is modeled after nov rain.
Come on now.
Nov rain and madagasar are nothing alike.
The blues is closer to nov rain than madagascar.

I'm just saying that that whole 55 piece sympathy stuff has been done by him already. Go read all of the Gnr reviews from after the VMA's and the tour and most will compare the new song Maddy to November Rain, fairly or not because of all the sympanthy and orchestra stuff. We know he can compose orchestra stuff and I am just hoping to hear something new and innovative having waited all this time, not an album full of studio orchestra stuff.

Ill give you the Blues.
But in no way does Maddy or CD sound like something off UYI. Maddy is such a beautiful song. It sounds nothing liek old GNR material.

Out of the 3 albums owrth of material they have...im pretty sure the band has made some memorable songs that have yet to be heared.

The funny thing is the same people who say what you just said would then complain how CD lacks a direction or is too far out there for there liking. So to some, CD will not please.

As Tommy and Dizzy and other people who have heard and worked on the material. They have said Cd will be a melting pot. A little bit of everything for your listening pleasure....


Whether you think this band is capable or not, or whether you think Axl is washed up...this band says they still have their big guns. SOngs that they feel strongly about. So the jury is still out....

They began making material with this band in 99/2000
Is there current material up to par with their old material? Hell no. So yea they have sold records but its about quality.
No1 is bashing Slash, etc or questioning what they did with old gnr. What they did was great. But since then their solo efforts are average at best and VR is nothing to be amazed about. Nothing that comes close to their old band.

We know what the old band can and cant do without Axl. When CD gets released we will see where Axl stands.

Old gnr{creative} + Weiland{creative}= did not make a creative album. They made a regular rock album. Absolutely nothing wrong with that but it wasnt creative.

That's your opinion, which you're entitled to.

Also, let's don't mistake creative with innovative or revolutionary, totally different animals not to be confused.

Yeah slash is not innovative, Axl is.

Madagascar is ok. I didnt think it was anything to revolutionairy (thats just my opinion, just like Dav has his own)

According to Axl he said at Rio 2001 see you next summer and he wasnt there next summer.

He has said CD is close for years now. And I think its safe to say Axl lives in his own little world. Regardless of what Axl says I doubt the 5 songs he plays live are just gonna be fillers. If he didnt think Madagascar was gonna be a hit someday he wouldnt of played it at the VMA in 2002.  WTTJ, Madagascar, the Paradise City. Yeah I am sure he only honestly believes its a filler when its putting it with two of their biggest hits

Axl said at the VMAs dont hold your breath and since then has not said its close. so you are wrong there.  And its nice to know you have heard CD since you know that is not filler.
All I can do is go by what Axl said, and since he heard the album I think ill take his word.

Neither are looked at as innovators, supremely talented for sure, but never revolutionaries by any stretch..

You done did good on this sentence.


Members from bands that produced albums like Appetite For Destruction and Core.  I'd say that qualifies as a supergroup (even though I don't like that label).


Members from bands that produced albums like Superunknown and Rage Against The Machine.  I'd say that qualifies as a supergroup (even though I don't like that label).


I'm not familiar with Mad Season... but I do know that Temple of the Dog had some members who helped make albums like Vs. and Ten, and some who worked on Soundgarden records.


Excuse me?  I've never heard of the band "Old GNR".... this band is called Guns N' Roses (not "new gnr" or "nu-gnr"), since they do not have a new name, these two members are in the SAME band.


Sure people know the Replacements, but not on the same level as GN'R, Soundgarden, or Pearl Jam... and even if they do, they're probably more familiar with Westerberg.


As far as I know, Robin hasn't played on a Nine Inch Nails album.  So he never wrote any of that music, and is probably not very well known (unlike Trent Reznor).


I'm still waiting for an answer on this one... Who the fuck are the Psychiallic Furs?  Since you said "robin from nin"... I think you should've put "fortus from nsync"...


Ok, sure?


BRAIN played in Primus, yes.


I'd say that's exactly why.  There is nothing "super" about this band.  It's just a bunch of musicians that Axl has picked out to be a part of a band that already existed.  If you're talking about the talent level of the individual members, then that's your opinion.  The public disagrees with you.  They think that the guitar playing on Appetite For Destruction is far more enjoyable to listen to then the wanking on Bucketheadland 2 or whatever new album he's pumped out.  As far as their collective work?? You've haven't heard enough of their music to say they are better than a Slash or a Duff or a Tom Morello, etc., etc.  For ever good song this band has written (that we have heard), there is a bad song to cancel it out.  You may think Madagascar is better than Estranged or November Rain... but would you say Oh My God is better than Paradise City? or Welcome to the Jungle?  This band has done nothing to prove themselves "more talented" than the other "supergroups" you mentioned.


Ugh, I felt like Dizzy writing that.   :nervous:

The Furs were/are a British band that had it's greatest success stateside with the single "Pretty In Pink"
and another minor hit with "Heartbreak Beat" in the mid 80's.? Fortus was not a member during that time, he came on board after he and Furs frontman Richard Butler disolved Love Spit Love. (who's claim to fame is the remake of The Smiths "How Soon Is Now?" which is featured on the opening credits to the US series "Charmed") Butler later included Fortus in a revamped version of the Furs.

On a side not, I saw the Furs last Tuesday night, good show, very nostalgic.

sky I dont have time for? your bullshit but you know Brains first name is Brian right?
As for the new gnr they are more talented than VR and audioslave.
Im sorry you dont have a diverse taste in music but look up some of the bands? you have not heard of, they might surprise? you. BTW want to put money ($20) that Cd sells more than contraband?

This bet is for you and you only.

Ps oh my god is better than any rocker on contraband

One more thing.
Id like to thank all the people that missed the point of this thread.
But of coarse the bashers like turning threads into something they are not.

That's where the thread turned, you reap what you sew...

it turned way before that but I know you are blind so its fine.

Lets think about it logically. Does he feel strongly about Maddy? Im sure he does. But that doesnt mean he thinks its a hit. He played it because of the songs they have played it best fit the melody. Also why play a single if the album isnt coming out during that time. Why play a single if its not even out. Why show it to the world live? MAkes no sense....


Whether you think Axl and the band are capable of creating classics is your choice. But there are songs in that vault, on that album, that the band think very highly of. And we havnt heard them yet. So until they are heard you cant say they have or havnt delivered.

here is where it started falcon


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Re: Why isn't the new gnr considered a supergroup?
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Contraband isn't exactly oozing with creativity.....but one could argue nothing of the six songs we have heard from GNR are exactly earth shattering either. The Blues and Maddy...while great songs....sound like nothing more than a track from the illusions era. Nothing revolutionary. The same goes for C.D, Rhyiad, and those other two hell pits I refuse to name. They are nothing worth writing home about, at least not 10 years worth of wait good. Slash, Duff have shown they are every bit as creative and genius as Axl because they provide the music for every song the man has released. Try and knock their solo work all you want but the fact remains that the entire GNR catalog is currently littered with Slash and Duffs work and that is what helped make the band we all know and love. Everything they are doing at


or does that not count iin your eyes?

It became a VR/GNR debate at that very point so I'll consider being called "blind " by an Axl myopian a concession..... : ok:

I believe the post I quoted above from you came a few before Naupis, so obviously it was a close second
to your topic swayer..

Yeah and if you believe after all that wait and the world looking at him you got to bet he's gonna play the best song he has. And he did Madagascar. Its no filler, its a late UYI type song.

scroll up cowbell

Sorry Dave but you did turn the entire thread into the typical VR vs. Gnr thread by trying to say that GNR was this bastion of creativity and that nothing on Contraband compared to Maddy. I was just pointing out that to the naked ear, there is nothing creative about Maddy as it sounds like a retread of older GNR stuff we have already heard. I love the song, but we obviously hold it in two different esteems in terms of its place as a GNR great. So before you go spouting off about people ruining your threads realize it was soley your doing. THis thread broke down into what exactly you hoped it would, another attempt to try and somehow justify a band that has released no music is somehow better than the original band that is responsible for all the music you already love.

Well said Naupis.

Case closed.

I'm quite aware of who the Psychedelic Furs are.  I was just pointing out to Dave that if a band member like Fortus (who didn't even play with the Furs during their most successful period) should be considered part of a "supergroup", then certainly the person making that suggestion should know the ACTUAL name of the band he used to play in (Psyhciallic?)... But we're all aware of Dave's tendency to just slap keys on the board.. and create cute pet names like "Maddy".  :hihi:

Anyways...


Again, you have no proof of this... comparing each band member's efforts in their PREVIOUS bands, VR and Audioslave blow the current Guns N' Roses lineup out of the water (of course not including Axl, who has only played in GN'R).  As far as the current GN'R's work as a collective unit... you have NOT heard enough music to make a judgement like that.  You may think that Oh My God is "better than any rocker song on contraband"... but that's an opinion (which is not shared by many people bar about 50% of every fan of the new lineup).



I do that almost every time someone suggests a band to me.  BTW, there is a difference between having a diverse taste in music, and having a diverse taste in ROCK music.  It seems you are criticizing me for the latter for no apparent reason... maybe you should listen to some different genres of music, and you might be suprised.


No.  I am 99% confident that Chinese Democracy will outsell Contraband.  I also hope it's an incredible CD that will "surpass his previous efforts"... which is why I'm excited for it to come out someday.  This has nothing to do with the current GN'R lineup being called a 'supergroup'.. and I fail to see the point you're trying to make since you were defending the new guys' solo albums by saying "album sales do not necessarily mean someone is more talented".


 ::)


See now I'm confused.  Are the "bashers" the people who dislike Axl using the GN'R name?.... Or are the "bashers" the people who dislike you?

I understand the point of the thread, and it makes me prouder than ever to be a part of column B.
You want the simple answer?  The "new gnr" is not considered a supergroup because it is (techinically) not a new band that features members with glorious pasts.  Anyone could figure that out... but only you are cute enough to start a thread about it just to put down former members of your favourite band.  :-*

Apologies Sky, thought you were serious...

Huh?  Isn't that the EXACT definition of them not delivering?



"There are Pizzas at Pizza Hut.  Delicious Pizzas.  Mouth-watering Pizzas.  Pizza's that are sitting in the pizza box, ready to be sent to you in the comfort of your home.  And we haven't tasted them yet.  So until they are tasted, you can't say whether or not Pizza Hut have delivered."

If you want to believe that they will play a "filler" song night after night at every live show because they want to keep their "big guns" back is crazy. I believe if the 2002 tour would of sold better and went better I believe CD would of been a spring of 2003 release, so I think in hindsite that at the VMA Axl had to be planning on CD coming out.

Whos saying they have delivered? They havnt. When the bell rings, I personally think they will but until then they havnt.
The jury is out on GNr musically. We wont know if they have or havnt delivered musically until they actually deliver the album.

No, actually its not crazy. It makes plenty of sense to me. Ill try to break it down for you.
Take for instance what Axl said at the vmas."we will do a north american tour then go back and do some more RECORDING." In other words, CD wasnt completed in august of 2002.
The whole idea of the 2002 tour was for the band to get out of the studio and gel as a live band. It was an oppurtunity for them to introduce the new lineup and also play the old stuff, for the most part,1 last time. They threw in a few new songs to give us some sort of an idea of what they are working on.
Why play your best songs{songs that will define and potentially legitimize the band} if:
A} you dont have an album out? or
B}dont have a single/video out

And also why reveal your best material live. That leaves it open to be bootlegged and people would only go on crappy boots and jusge the album on boots. Yea so work hard day and night on material, keep everything under lock and key,have everyone lips sealed about the band and music...yet throw that all away in a tour..before the album is even out or finished....Riiight : ok:

I agree, the 2002 tour was pointless. And thats basically why it probably ended. They realized that it could only get so good and that for them to be successful they need to have their own material. Hence the tour got aborted in December.

What GNr should have done was go on a quick major arena city tour. They would have sold those out. The press would have had 1 less thing to bash them on and they would have gotten more positive press. They could have accomplished many things with that kind of a tour.{Gel as a band,new lineup,old stuff,etc}. Instead they schedule to tour idaho,tacoma,etc withough an album to promote. Totally pointless.

To say that the songs they have played are their best? might turn out to be true but again, according to the band and by hearing what other people have said, this band has a bunch of songs that they are banking on. Whether you believe them or not is up to you. I know where I stand. But fact is that there are "better"songs that have yet to be heard. And thats music to my ears? ;)

I'll agree the New GN'R members aren't that well known but hell i did not know who Scott Weiland was before he joined Velvet Revolver.  I still think it's more to do with them keeping the same name, a different name and i think they would have been called a supergroup.

I've not read the entire thread but isn't the 'supergroup' label normally given to secondary/new bands that are made up of already famous people. Like if Axl left Guns n'roses and formed a new band with Brian May and other famous people, that would then be branded a supergroup

This should have been the first and last reply in this mess of a thread...

eh... i think there some pretty cool posts came out of this thread
and a discussion about supergroups in general can be pretty interesting /informative

as far as the topc thread...  the new gnr is not considered a supergroup because its "Guns N' Roses"... an already existing band made up of members which were not previously famous.  I think if the new Guns N' Roses Line-up was under a new name it could be deemed a supergroup...  But I don't think that is something that any one wants (neither the fans nor the bandmembers)

anyway.. i thought this was interesting... check it out:

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergroup_%28bands%29

In the late 1960s, the term supergroup was coined to describe music groups comprising members of great proficiency who had already achieved fame or respect in other groups or as individual artists. The term took its name from the 1968 album Super Session with Al Kooper, Mike Bloomfield, and Stephen Stills. The coalition of Crosby, Stills and Nash (later Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young) is another example.

With the success of Cream, the term also came to include groups that sold huge numbers of albums and headlined massive concerts, regardless of the previous fame of the individual members. However, the term as correctly applied refers to the architecture, not the achievements, of the group. By any standards, it is not a rigidly defined category and has become, more than anything, a marketing term.

Supergroups tend to be short-lived (often lasting only for an album or two), perhaps because of the natural conflict of egos between established stars. Also, some supergroups were formed as side projects that were never intended to be permanent.

Examples of supergroups: (see article for entire list with hyperlinks) includes Neurotic Outsiders and Reloaded AND Velvet Revolver
and very interestingly lists Led Zepplin saying the following:  Led Zeppelin is a marginal case, because although Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones were famous and respected when the band formed as The New Yardbirds, the other half of the group were relative unknowns at the time (albeit very competent unknowns). Page's original intention for the group was to include other well known musicians for the vocalist and drummers spots.

hm...

ha! 
anyway.. pretty good list
surprised not to see the vedder/cornell pairing Temple of the Dog on there...
check it out

  New GN'R-They haven't done any record so far,no albums have been sold,members has not names exept for Axl and Fans have been waiting for Axl since 1996 and he can't delivery it.
  VR-They did a Kickass album in less than a year and sold 256,000 copies the first week,they have Fans actually buying their tickets on their successful tour and their names are Slash,Duff McKagan,Matt Sorum and Scott Weiland.
 
 PS- I actually read  in here someone saying that he only knew about Scott when he came out singin' with VR.Well,let me tell you something if you didn't know who Scott was before or either you didn't listen to rock or you were to young
to remember,'cause STP were all over the radio and TV at that time.
                                                                                                                         cheers :beer:

Wrong, STP were huge in USA, not in the rest of the world.

They never were in the Nirvana, Pearl Jam league in popularity in the rest of the world.


Regarding GN'R being labeled a supergroup, I think it's good thing that they're not labeled as one...... I mean, it's a label. Would you be interested in hearing the question "so how does it feel to be labeled a super group?" in every interview?



/jarmo

Actually cowbell mentioned that at page 1 and many other posters did but they couldn?t stop the mobocracy rise.
So, I think otherwise.
Just look at 2 post above.? ?:hihi:? ? ?Cheers :peace:

the psychiallic furs and the replacements are such big name bands too, lol.  trent reznor is nin also, not many people go to see robin fink, lol.  axls band is a cover band. 

this thread is a joke ;)

^^
For the thread being a joke it sure did get a lot of replies, and it was supposted to get a good convo going and not be the same tired old thread that we have done 100 times over. And it accomplished that, so I guess the joke is on you.

As for my wording of the thread.
I should have said, should the new gnr be considered a supergroup.
And again, the bands these people came from were popular, even if some of them were underground, but my idea of a super group is when talented musics from different bands form a different band.

And this new version of gnr is very talented that was my point.

NO, cos I don?t like that label.
But maybe I can stand "marginal super group" like Zep.
(Gosh, :idea: I love this word "marginal"!!! )
As, unlike today?s super band, they became far greater than their former bands musically and commercially.

(q.v. Eva GnRAxlRosette's post on: Today at 11:46:18am)

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