Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Whether you choose to believe me or not, honestly, I don't care. An excellent source has informed me that during this years MTV VMA's a commercial advertising Guns N' Roses long awaited album Chinese Democracy will air. This is still no guarantee the album will be released this November.

And your source would be ??

Sadly, we have had this so many times from one-post wonders, that you aren't going to get the attention from this thread that you're obviously craving.

Get a life.. or a dog.

So while being informed of this 'info' did you happen to see a pig fly out the window? :hihi:

Why can't you name your source? Why do you have to use the word 'source' and not an actual man or company?

You didn't get the idea for this thread from here did you? ;):

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=22534&st=0&#entry348445

Whatever you say buddy. I remember hearing this before last years VMAs.

I'll believe it when I see it.

look, monkeys might be flying out of my butt, too!  :P

It's the return of the mysterious black and white CD ad!!

Who cares.  Even if he is right it will get postponed anyways probaly.

Thats a new one....  ::)

But without a source, i really dont believe it... And no, i dont wanna see the vma this year, because of that...

another one post fuc-I mean wonder, with info from as in the know inside  source,  I ve heard this same song and dance to many times and I smell Bullshit, this doesnt just smell of it, it reeks of it and while one of these one post bastards will probably get lucky one day and guess correctly I dont think it will be this guy, but lets just see if he even returns to the site or gives a source until then he can  go to hell :rant:

maybe it is axl who wrote it?

actually its possible.
since axl had commented upon doing something n his press release.
but he also said that he played green goblin in spiderman!

just don't know what to believe anymore

an excellent one! :D

If someone only had one post I would never believe.

If they had real connections and never had the need to post before why would they ruin their connection for a one time post?

Secondly anyone who knows anything is being quiet and not giving up any real info, it just seems everyone who is talking doesnt know anyone close to Axl.

yeah,yeah. bullshit! why did you come here to post your shitty rumours..give some proof or get lost, thank you.

And we  like to dance in our goatskin pants around this ancient ruin.....

You'll have to excuse our skepticism...we heard the EXACT same rumor last year.  And, if CD isn't out by then, I'm sure we'll hear it again, NEXT YEAR.  It's like GnR performing at the VMA's, or the Super Bowl, etc.  We hear it every year....

If you don't care, then why deny us a source.? You can at least give a title to your source.? You don't have to announce his-her name, blood type, sexual history, etc...

This post was just a matter of time....at least get creative with your bullshit!!!

"an excellent source"  :confused:

should be locked.

That's what I was going to say.  We've heard the same handful of rumors for years now.  None of them are true and they never will be.  When is the last time you saw a commercial for a cd release on tv?  Not gunna happen.

Today?

Does anybody else think these things might emanate from MTV to get the last group of fully functioning human beings in the world (the ones with taste, that have no reason to watch their shitty programming) to watch the VMAs?

He's got one post, it must be true! :hihi:

I don't think they have MTV in Canada (which is where this rumor was posted from).



/jarmo

Well, anything is possible.....

But I doubt it.......

Another one post wonder....

Like I've said a million times....

Someday somebody will get it right.......It's just a matter of odds.

The RumourBoard Admin
Has said this ain't to be
He said he checked it out,
Said he asked MTV,

They said the VMAs
Are totally Guns-free
It's good news for VR
But not for you and me.

Splash

/Mike

We choose NOT to believe you. Even if Axl told me personally,I wouldn't post something like this without proof

Hey buddy, check this out!

http://www.golala.com/forums/index.php?mforum=Gnrforum&showtopic=210

What?  My poem didn't get the point across???? ;D

Thanks for posting the link...I forgot to!

/Mike

LOL, nice....  Your posts never fail to crack me up.  Thanks for keeping us informed.

Posts: 1  :hihi: Lock this!

If you were planning on creating a new rumour, or getting people to watch the awards, you picked the wrong thread, the ppl around here have waited a hell of a long time for this album, and like these guys are saying, they have heard this one b4 : ok:

funny :rofl:

As Axl said, and I quote, "Blame Canada".

Rumours were said to end at graduation.  And WHOA thier going to air a commercial WOW, now that's history in the making!!  :o

Something smells like shit in this thread....Oh wait it's the author :smoking:

Weather this turns out to be true or not, That would actually make a lot of sense. I think it would be a great way to promote to a large audience, very fast. And yes they do promote cd's on tv all the time!

damnit i knew i smelt something :hihi:

who gives a fuck if some guy from some other board called 1800 dial mtv and asked someone if gnr will have an ad on?  like mtv is gonna say yes?

also.. are you sure there's no mtv in canada? and if not what about on direct tv?


also, I kinda think there will be a commercial on mtv during the awards but it could be wishful thinking.

There are so many US satellite dishes in Canada - it is possible seeing MTV easily..l. but I still don't believe this shit

Me? :o? No, not meeeee! It?s a frame-up! :P

Same shit, different year...

:rofl:

I'll believe it when I see it right guys?

MTV has a canadian station now - MTV Canada. It's also very easy to get MTV on sat. Of course, why anyone would want either is beyond me.

HAHAHAHA!! Isn't this from Dragent??!!? I fucking love that film!! Whatever happened to Dan Aykroyd!? uhm sorry  :-[

Where's Johan?? He's the only guy who have known/guessed things right. He said that some important money man of

Universal said that there will be GH and it will come out for sure. He's the only person that I've seen here on HTGTH

board that have had legit info what comes to the rumours. Even Mysteron said, there will be no GH on Spring and it did

come out. Johan knew/guessed that right. Way to go Johan!

Good catch!  It's from the P.A.G.A.N song from Dragnet.  Dan Akroyd and Tom Hanks....one of my favorite movies, too.

Last I saw of Dan, he was doing e-bay commercials. :)

My thoughts exactly. Actually, rumours of a CD commercial deserve a category all their own, there've been so damn many over the years. Do labels even run TV commercial for albums that aren't out yet?

Yes they do run commercials for cds that are not out yet.

like oreily said yeah they do run commercials to promote their release but i dont think we will be seeing one for gnr

Hi,

I rep MTV Canada and I've asked my contract in traffic (where they slot the commercials) if this is true...I'll have an answer by 12pm eastern today...
Cheers,
Yanick

Interesting... definitely let us know.

This is a load of crap.  This isn't even a new load of bullshit.  ThisLife should be banned, and his thread deleted.

Hey PhillyRiot, I like your little message under your posts.

Hi,

As far as MtV Canada is concerned, there are no spots booked for either Interscope, Geffen or GnR...
That doesn't necessarily mean that the US feed won't  have any, but I doubt it...Unless they book it between now and friday...but that wouldn't make sense since the VMA's are pretty much sold out...
And unless I'm mistaken, I doubt that the VMA's (or MTV for that matter) would be the best vehicle to prmote GnR ( Demographics etc...) anyways...
It's too bad...Hopefully, i'll be wrong....
Cheers,
Yanick from Montreal....(and yes I was at the "riot" fiasco in 92')

I guess, we can forget everything about C.D on this years VMA....... :P

I think so too.

Thanx a lot for info.  :D

Thanks Christina, hopefully I will have to change it someday!

maybe they wont have an actual comercial but maybe an announcement could be part of the actual show.  I also think it's the perfect place for Axl to promote it.  I dont think Axl is shooting for a bunch of 30 to 40 year old fans.  I would imagine he wants to take over every age group.

You may be right....I only figured that they would aim for the over 30's since they're the majority "buyers' (not downloaders) of music...I also assume (maybe wrongly) that 70% of Gnr fans are male...I'd aim for sports personally...probably NFL football (has a decent female following also) ...ex: Season launch, Monday night ,get Axl to sing the Nat. anthem and have it shown at all the stadiums on the first sunday (like Bush flipping the coin last year) etc....
Again, I do hope I'm wrong cuz' i'm not too keen in seeing 75% of presenters/performers this sunday night...
:)
Yanick

Some people on this forum are either delusional or complete idiots.  There is no way that the NFL would want to bring Axl in for anything.  Unless there is some product forthcoming then as far as they are concerned he's a washed up has been who has a penchant for not showing up when he's supposed to.

You seem to think that the media are going to greet CD as the musical event of the decade.  The reality is that they're going to be lining up to take cheap shots at Axl and the music.  The best if we can hope for is that the album doesn't get too badly damaged by the press reaction and people will judge for themselves.

The media doesn't care about Axl.  You never see Axl anywhere on the news or MTV when he is in his reclusive mode.

I actually meant that Geffen would pay for the exposure...But if I spent as much $$$ on this record as has been reported, I'd cut my losses cuz' the sales would never justify the costs needed to promote this thing...5 years ago (before napster, before the failed tour, etc...) I would, but not now...Tax write-off....

No need to call anyone an idiot btw...Just thought that something more male and older would be more appropriate than the Vma's which are targeted mainly (80% of audience is younger than 30) at 12-17's and 18-24's...
Cheers,

Yanick

I'm sorry about the idiot remark, i'm starting to get frustrated by this.

On the subject of making a profit from CD.  I just recently moved and while I was going through some old stuff in my garage I found a magazine from 1993 which had a small story about Guns N' Roses earnings.  They claimed that in 1992 and 1993 that GN'R had brought in $53 million.  It is highly questionable if they still have that kind of drawing power in the US anymore but a prolonged world tour would still be able to bring this project back into profit.

If Axl is prepared to cowboy up and do what is needed then CD will at the very least be a financial success.  We should remember that the rolling stones have brought out some pretty subpar albums and have still been able to draw huge numbers at concerts.

Very true...But the artists are the ones making the $$$ on concerts...not the labels...
I bet that in 5 years, we'll be buying our music directly from the artists themselves...At least the established ones who own their catalogues...

The record company won't sit back and do nothing if they've paid out $13 million for the recording of the album and Axl is making big bucks on a tour.  They'll get their money.

We're already seeing a shift towards artists directly marketing their material through the internet.  As more people get broadband internet connections the number of customers for this will only increase.  Maybe i'm old fashioned but i like to buy the cd with the pretty label rather than downloading it and burning it onto a cdr.

For those of you who constantly private message me trying to get me to reveal my source,sorry I will not break the agreement I have.

Most people will just assume that there is no source and you made this up.

come on now.. even if he did say that his source was axl himself.. would you believe him?

A washed up has been whose songs mysteriously play at every freakin sports game there is. 

Exactly Nuge, I love when Artist put great detail into making a good album. A beautiful cover and a cool design on the cd itself. I have dial up and i am not insterested in Downloading online. I used to download a song or two then swing into Best Buy to buy the album. Napster only made be want to co get the actual item.

The NFL would never put him up singing at multi games. I could see Axl maybe singing at a NY Giants games, because every game of the NY Giants I have seen over the last five years I have heard WTTJ playing before opening kick off and after half time. But I think that will be the clostest Axl gets to playing at a NFL Game.

GNR need to promote CD like Halo 2 is being promoted

a commercial with a hidden but easy to find website, u go to that website and there is tons of kick ass info! that would rule! if anyone has seen the halo 2 thing u know what im talkin about, i cant remember it exact but ill look it up and give detail, if anyone knows share it!

Exactly that game has been delayed and people have been wanting that since the original came out when the X Box debuted. I think a plan similiar to this would do great for GnR

guys i dont think the halo strategy would work for GNR. halo was released in 2001 3 years ago, gnr's last release was over a decade ago, I dont know how much of the public are as hungry as we are for cd, a promotion plan like HALO 2's works if the mass public of your market (in Halos case video game players) is anctiously awaiting the release, is such a fashion that it almost promotes itself just by putting up a website and doing a few things gamer magazines.  FOr CD it will be alot more difficult, and the promotion put into it will have to be some of the heaviest ever, to reawaken old gnr fans who have moved on and to try and capture knew ones.  and while im not syaing cd is doomed to failure cause i think it will be a hit i do believe that the marketing strategy has to be brilliant and the campiagn massive, including things like tv commercials, and website but so much more also

I think you will get alot more private message from people here, if this turns out to be BS..... :-\

I'm not saying that he's washed up or a has been.  That is probably how is he viewed by many people who aren't fans due to the fact that he hasn't finished CD.

And these songs that are being played before football games are 17 years old now.  Axl will be judged on what he is doing now, not the glory days of the 80's.

last time i checked Axl and Jon Bon Jovi are the same age, Axl being a month older i think, since axl's is in February i think and Jon's is march 2nd.? Jon and the rest of Bon Jovi a couple years ago played before 500,000 in the NFL kick off event! So age has nothing to do with it. As popular as GNR are with the NFL, im sure if everything fit and was valid would more than willingly let GNR perform.

Not to mention the still rocking Aerosmith, who appeared at the Super Bowl and the season launch last year. Steve Tyler's 56.

What you are forgetting though when comparing bands like Bon Jovi and Aerosmith is that they are bands that have continued to release music and remain relevant over the years and have had stable line-ups that fans abroad have come to know and love. Jon & Richie and Steven & Joe have been consistent draws for as long as those bands have been alive. They have sold almost hundred million albums or so worldwide and I would argue fame wise are every bit as if not more recognizable than this incarnation of GNR. plus, they have a gentler image than this version of GNR, and image for those types of events is EVERYTHING. They are all family friendly, and whether people on this board will admit it or not GNR is not in the soft-rock family friendly mode. Both of those bands have softened over time, and GNR has retooled with good musicians who otherwise look like a freak-show. Comparing GNR to Bon Jovi and Aerosmith is like comparing Apples to Oranges.

If GNR still consisted of Axl and Slash I would agree that ABC would take a flier on them. This version of GNR though is going to have to go out an prove they are still a drawing power. I am sure I will here plenty about the 15 minute sellout at MSG but ticket averages from that tour in this country as a whole show they have alot to prove still. Until they do so we will not be seeing major networks hand them prime-time spots as the band that made them popular is no longer intact and the new band has to show that over time they will have the same drawing power as GNR once had. MTV did it as a novelty, the novelty of it has since warn off and they will have to release a successful product to regain the luster.

I think before they get offers for the super bowl or opening kick off GNR will have to prove that this version of the band is a good draw, I think that if the original band was still together and making music it would be a diffrent situation entirely and probably  not a problem and we would see GNR wiht Aerosmith on these types of things,  But GNR has for the most part remained out of the publics eye except for the few gigs in the states and the ones internationally and the VMA, and what do people here i the states remember about the NA tour, that iit crashed and burned with axl not showing up at gigs and with a riot to kcik it off, so until GNR is out there and proves itself, I dont think GNR will probably be asked to do something like the superbowl

i love how these 1 post wonders come put up their bull shit rumors on the board, wonder if he works for mtv and is trying to bring in more audience, bastards, if i could get my hands on this fuck i would kick his ass :rant:

And once again people wonder why not to trust 1 post wonders. People like THISLIFE dont deserve to live.!

Another rumor from an excellent source discredited.   ;)