Here Today... Gone To Hell!

According to the rumor board Admin anyway, who claims to have contacted Paul Buckmaster and asked about the album...

http://www.golala.com/forums/index.php?mforum=Gnrforum&s=d58c4f198e4522a83c92d227592ff80f&showtopic=202

note: edited to fix link

Is it just me or have we been here before?::)

we're goin in circles..  :rofl:

aint that always the case :hihi: sadly :'(

Well didn't we just hear recently how Brain was still recording percussion for the album?

"Did you email him to ask him what the songs are like?

Yes. I've not got much info so far because he is very busy at the moment

So far he says that;

- Chinese Democracy is currently being mixed and will be released soon
- Prostitute is a chillingly beautiful song, like fire and ice
- His string orchestra recording dates were in September 2002
- He is aware that Beltrami did some work for the new album. Apparently he wrote a chart/some charts involving French Horns"

if any of that is true it's going to be amazing.

I think the Beastie Boys took 6 years to release that piece of shit album.  If CD sounds like what that person described the time it took to make will be more than justifiable.

i like the new beastie boys album.

anywho, i have no doubts that paul buckmaster is/was involved with gnr, but i dont know anything about that admin.

It's time for Buckethead to drop his plans with C2B3 and come back to the band. If this drops big time, then he has to get his share of the accolades.

I'm pretty confident that once CCBBB wraps up a tour for their record (hopefully a few months, just speculating, but I doubt it'll be a multi-continent tour), BH will be convinced to jump back on board once things materialize, whenever that may be....Would someone be willing to post the message from the rumour board?  I'm not registered there....my loyalties lay here.....thanks

Oh fuck no, not like Fire and Ice!  :rant:

(http://home.online.no/~n-johano/YM%20Fire%20and%20ice%20lp%20korea.jpg)

Maybe it'll release the fucking fury?  :hihi:



/jarmo

Well I hope we get something official soon

Sound fabulously marvellous!

So, we?re going in spiral and about to get to the eye of a typhoon or the top of a tornado.

I meant because there was some Decarli dude doing some mixing on CD and we e-mailed him and he woulden't give us any information. I'm talking about further back than Brain's Percussion Parts.

Actually, I think we're really close to an announcement.

That Buckmaster has said as much as he has is pretty amazing, considering the  I have-a-contract-and don't-want to get-in-trouble, hush hush talk of others involved. Whether he is right? Who knows.

Falcons going to love this... ;D

Maybe he is doing a cover of After the Gold Rush by Neil...or even You Can't Always Get What You Want by the Stones.... :hihi: :hihi: I am sure these songs are right on top of Falcon's all time favs. :hihi:

Same shit, different day. Has this guy said anything that is accurate?

hey maybe this is wishful thinking but they did mention that there would be an official announcement around aug 31st.... thats around the time of the MTV music awards....
maybe we'll see that silent black and white gnr CD commercial

Actually the word Yngwie used was 'unleash the fucking fury', which makes it even more ridiculous :rofl:

i think this buildup is as significant as any that has preceded a rumored release date.

"- Chinese Democracy is currently being mixed and will be released soon"

I just don't see how this is possible. Slash said Axl only recorded vocals on two tracks, and he knew that for a fact.

 : ok:

Buddha Master:

You say the same dam' thing every time! Come up with some fucking substance in your posts!!!!!

Good point.  I forgot!  :hihi:
There's no hope.  The vocals have probably all been performed by Beta.

Buddha, you are the king, baby!
/Mike

Yes we have. :hihi:

Dude please. Until there is an official announcement, its the same old same old. I have been here for a long time waiting, and  his quote makes me fucking laugh. I think of it as a gift that keeps on giving.

If you want substance, I would suggest you find another bands board. GNR hasn't released anything substantial in almost 13 years. Substance is the furthest thing from reality in this mixed up crazy GNR land. Entertaining ourselves is what GNR fans do best.

If you want substance bro, wait till right before and after CD is released. Substance will be flying like a motherfucker then. But until then...smile.

couldn't have said it better myself...

Check these sites.... :yes:

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:cw0-cYQ...n%27roses&hl=en

http://www.eltonjohn.com/greatest_hits_197...2/interview.asp

i'm seeing nuttin

I dont know why they aint working..... But here there are:

Most recently, in 2001, on his best album in more than two decades, Songs From The West Coast, when Elton was determined to re-create the key elements of his vintage era, yes, Paul Buckmaster again was brought in to add his unique, cohesive elements. And he didn?t disappoint.

A classically-trained composer and conductor who began playing the cello at the age of four, Buckmaster also has worked with notable names such as Miles Davis and The Rolling Stones, and he?s written the musical score to several feature films. Earlier this year, he won a Grammy Award for a purely Paul Buckmaster arrangement on Train?s hit, Drops Of Jupiter. His recent work includes arrangements on new albums by Faith Hill and Guns N? Roses.

PAUL BUCKMASTER INTERVIEW

For close observers, it?s clear when Elton John is serious about a new piece of music: he calls Paul Buckmaster.

Beginning in 1970, with his haunting arrangements on the Elton John album, and throughout most of that decade when his compositions highlighted many classic Elton John albums, Paul Buckmaster?s role in creating the ?Elton John sound? has been as essential as Elton?s melodies, Bernie Taupin?s lyrics and Gus Dudgeon?s production.
Articulate, eloquent, well-read and always insightful, Buckmaster is a gifted musician who elevates a song with sounds that convey an endearing emotional connection.

James Turano spoke to Buckmaster over several months, the first time early in 2002, and later in October. During these sessions, the two discussed Buckmaster?s work with Elton, beginning at age 23, with his strong presence on 1970?s Elton John album, to key contributions more than 30 years later on 2001?s Songs From The West Coast.

James Turano: Congratulations. You?re now Grammy Award winner Paul Buckmaster.

Paul Buckmaster: Oh, thank you very much. It was a great honor to win the Grammy for best arranger.

JT: What were your thoughts when you heard your name read as the winner?

PB: My chances going in were very good because Drops Of Jupiter was such a big hit; it also won Song Of The Year, and would surely have won Record Of The Year, but for being trumped by U2.

JT: When word emerged that you were writing arrangements for Songs From The West Coast, it greatly heightened anticipation for the album for many fans.

PB: That?s very nice to hear; it?s both a pleasure and a challenge to work with Elton, and working on Songs From The West Coast was inspiring and fun.

JT: How did you ?get the call? this time?

PB: I received a call from Davey Johnstone, who initially described the new songs as vintage Elton and Bernie, but not a throwback; rather, a fresh approach that incorporated the best of their partnership. Later, I was formally invited by Patrick Leonard to join the project, which I think was due to Davey?s influence.

JT: Did producer Patrick Leonard give you free rein to write whatever you wanted?

PB: Patrick is a talented musician and composer, and he had some definite ideas as to what he wanted, but his direction was more of where to put the music within the songs. Pat gave me freedom to write my own ideas - as Elton has always done, throughout the years of our collaboration - but this time, Pat was a bit more controlling because he had already ?demo-sketched? his own ideas with synths and samples, and clearly wanted me to take that into consideration, which tended to block the free-flow of my ideas. But still, I?m pleased with the results, especially the all-too-short fade sections of both Mansfield and Original Sin. You know, through the years, I?ve given my imagination completely free rein, to come up with something different, exciting, and moving, and I know that?s why Elton calls me. There?s one piece I wrote during the Made In England sessions, for Live Like Horses, on which I was asked by Elton and producer Greg Penny, to do an ?Aaron Copeland- type approach? (their words) and because Elton?s piano-only demo was anything but Aaron Copeland, and because the vocal was separate from the piano on the multi-track, I was able to completely re-write the piano part. I radically changed the chords, harmonies, making it truly ?Americana? in its harmonic language. From there I built up a complete arrangement - drums, bass, 12-string guitar, percussion and a large string section. I think it?s one of the best arrangements I ever wrote. I don?t think it?ll ever be released, though; I think Elton wasn?t too happy with my radicalization -cause he would have had to learn my piano part!

JT: What is your writing process for Elton?

PB: It all starts with the songs. I just let it flow when I?ve got strong songs like those to work with. I generally write ?head to paper?, but I also work with a computer/midi-sampling system, into which I can load whichever orchestral or instrumental sounds I need. This allows me to do a fairly authentic sounding mock-up prior to going into the studio with a real orchestra, and it allows me to try out and retry various ideas. Working with a computer allows me to come close to the final arrangement during the writing process. Later, we record with a live orchestra. Elton?s songs and Bernie?s lyrics have definite moods and points-of-view, sometimes very visually evocative, and it?s my job to enhance and expand those emotions and sound images, and give them the dimensions and depth they require.

JT: These arrangements are in the classic Paul Buckmaster tradition. Songs like The Ballad of the Boy In The Red Shoes and This Train Don?t Stop There Anymore are soaring, panoramic in sound and scope, yet reminiscent of your great work on songs like Tiny Dancer, Levon, Holiday Inn and Indian Sunset. With your sound returning to Elton?s songs in such a dominant way, it made them sound like they should.

PB: Thank you. I didn?t consciously try to re-create a sound from the past. If they remind you of that early period, it may be because Elton and Bernie wrote songs similar in content and melody to that period, and that?s what I reacted to. Patrick?s production left many spaces to write through. It was a good situation for my arrangements to drive the sound when needed.

JT: There are quite a few songs that you contributed to on the new Elton John Greatest Hits 1970-2002 collection. Do you have any thoughts your work on these songs, such as Tiny Dancer, Levon and Believe?

PB: Well, yes, Tiny Dancer and Levon have both stood up well through the years. Gus really mixed the strings high for Tiny Dancer, didn?t he? And yes, I really do like Believe. For that arrangement I wanted to give the song the drama its words and music evoke. I am proud of those, yes, but there are other Elton songs that I am equally pleased with. For example, I really love Crazy Water (from the album, Blue Moves). I think that is an excellent song and I really like my arrangement on it. I?ve always felt the strings should have been higher in the mix on that one. I complained to Gus about that, even years later, when he was re-mastering Blue Moves. One Horse Town, from the same album, is another one of my favorites. Those two are among the best work I?ve done with Elton. Many of the songs that I like best are those that were not released as singles, like Have Mercy On The Criminal, Sixty Years On, Take Me To The Pilot, and many songs from Tumbleweed Connection.

JT: A great way to follow-up your latest work with Elton would be for you to once again conduct a live orchestra playing your arrangements behind him and the band in concert, similar to some of the early BBC appearances in the early 70s. Would you ever consider a tour like that if offered?

PB: I?d love that; it would be an opportunity to revise and expand on some of my writing. Doing that kind of concert or tour would be most wonderful for me, because Elton and Bernie?s song have certainly stood the test of time, and my arrangements have held up too. Much of Elton?s music inherently lends itself to orchestrations and arrangements, and anytime I?m asked to work with Elton and Bernie, I take it as a high personal and professional compliment. I keep very busy with a variety other musical projects, but it?s always special to receive that next call from Elton.


The second one:

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Remember "SOON" is not the word

I meant substance in your posts not the same dam posts all the time. It's okay to make jokes but come up with some new shit.

Aerosmith hadn't released anything for about 15 years and the're still around, so I don't wanna hear anything more about what Slash said about CD.

Please fix those links!

Oh I know what you meant. Im glad you have given the okay to make jokes. You should think about dropping this announcement on everyone, maybe starting a new thread. I think its a pretty substantial announcement, that its okay to make jokes now, you know, as opposed to before. Speaking of jokes, just eyeballing your posts, its very apparent that you are a regular Chris Rock.

They seems to be working now....

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:cw0-cYQKDqUJ:raystaar.com/mcdaniel/pdf/PAULBUCKMASTER.pdf+%22paul+buckmaster%22+guns+n%27roses&hl=en

http://www.eltonjohn.com/greatest_hits_1970-2002/interview.asp

No releases in 15 years??? Where have you been???

Aerosmith:

Get A Grip 1993.

Nine Lives  1997.

Just Push Play 2001.

Does Honkin' On Bobo count?

Yes, but it is old blues-songs... : ok:

The correct statement would be no good album in the last 15 years... :hihi:

At least Axl hasn't been like AeroSupply and released nothing but utter shit for the last decade and a half, although the cover CD that came out this year is pretty good.

I could live with 1 or 2 shitty album from Axl in the last 15 years...  :-\

At least Aerosmith are releasing records... ;)

I would rather have no records than shitty obes.

Ill drop my 2 cents on this Aerosmith nonsense.

Whether you want to count Honkin on Bobo or not, that is a fine blues album and far exceeds the mediocre effort GNR put into TSI.

I dig this Aerosmith album.

And about Axl putting out shitty albums discussions... I would rather have no GNR albums than bad ones. GNR has a pretty good track record when it comes to original material.

Yea, honestly, I haven?t seen my Spaghetti for ages and I don?t bother searching through my lumbered up garage or elsewhere.  :-\

Yup... no reason to unnecessarily tarnish the GNR image just for the sake of releasing something.

I meant they took a 15 year break and they made an incredible comeback.

hey i loved Air Supply  :rofl:

ah wat was that song?  :rofl:

exactly : ok:

Aerosmith never took a 15 year break.  They broke up briefly in the early eighties, but they still managed to release an album during this time.  (Rock in a Hard Place).  The original members got back together only a couple years later and made their comeback in like '85 or '86, when they released "Done With Mirrors" and "Permanent Vacation."  Then they released "Pump" - they really made a comeback. 

So as far as I know, Aerosmith has only taken a few years break since 1973, when they released their first album. 

Aerosmith might be putting out records, but they arent anything new, Aerosmith isnt gonna change or take over the rock scene again, After their second push with the remix of ROCK THIS WAY, they changed the scene, now they are like almost every other classic band, releasing new material that sounds like the same old formula (except for BOBO) I think Axl wants to release something that matters, wether it changes anything or not, he wants something current and powerful, not just filler for cash. If he was worried about money he wouldnt of spent $13 million on 1 album

I agree.  I think Axl is trying his hardest not to follow the same path as the Stones or Aerosmith.  Axl wants his band to remain relevant...and I seriously doubt he's doing it for the money.  I think it could have been very easy for GNR to go the same route that Aerosmith went had they stuck to the same old formula after the Illusions albums...but Axl didn't do that.  Nevertheless, I respect Aerosmith for the fact that they seem to support their fan base after all these years.  As a long-time GNR fan, I wish I heard a little bit more from Axl about the progress of CD. 

I agree with everything you said in your post. I htink the 13 million shas been spent over all of the material though not just CD.

To go along with you and the others though, Axl and this band are not in this for the money. Its quite obivious. Some may say/think they have "issues" but money and musical integrity are not any of them.....

Sorry to say but unless Slash says he's heard the album,I don't give a flying fuck what he says about this album as I don't believe he knows what he's talking about. :smoking:

Over at Metal Sludge there's a blurb about how Axl has a lien on house for CD.