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Title: november rain video
Post by: buster on August 15, 2004, 02:42:08 PM
does anyone know how and why axl's "wife" dies in the video for november rain?? i really dont know. can anyone fill me in??? please???    ???


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Eeebs on August 15, 2004, 02:50:01 PM
I'm pretty sure it was suicide... I believe the story goes something like this... the wife finds out the husband is cheating on her, so she kills herself (shoots herself in the head, that is why only half of her face is shown in the coffin) ... errr, or that is how I remember it anyway. 

I am sure someone can post a link with the detailed description of the script / plot line, etc...


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on August 15, 2004, 03:00:23 PM
i think she got hit by a truck while she was on her bike.


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Christos AG on August 15, 2004, 03:10:20 PM
The whole trilogy is based on the short story WITHOUT YOU by Del James, that was based on Axl's life... Read it here:

http://www.allnightthing.net/woutu1.html


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Izzy on August 15, 2004, 03:18:09 PM
does anyone know how and why axl's "wife" dies in the video for november rain?? i really dont know. can anyone fill me in??? please???? ? ???

Its the cake

It's poisoned

Watch the video again - she is the only one to eat any - and then at the end that brave man destroys it to prevent further 'injury'!

It was Kurt Cobain's diabolical plan to get rid of Axl once and for all


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: FlashFlood on August 15, 2004, 04:13:24 PM
there seemed to be something wrong with the rain too, something wrong enough to make a guy jump through a freaking cake.


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Evolution on August 15, 2004, 04:16:29 PM
that brave man destroys it to prevent further 'injury'!
:rofl:


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Mattgnr on August 15, 2004, 04:22:18 PM
does anyone know how and why axl's "wife" dies in the video for november rain?? i really dont know. can anyone fill me in??? please???? ? ???

Its the cake

It's poisoned

Watch the video again - she is the only one to eat any - and then at the end that brave man destroys it to prevent further 'injury'!

It was Kurt Cobain's diabolical plan to get rid of Axl once and for all



I cringe every time that part is played  :nervous:


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: anythinggoes on August 15, 2004, 04:42:31 PM
Has anyone else noticed Charlie Sheen being one of the waiters in that scene?. I think she died when Slash took her for a ride in his car (did she not see the dont cry video)     pig


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Thenewmoravcik on August 15, 2004, 05:36:32 PM
there seemed to be something wrong with the rain too, something wrong enough to make a guy jump through a freaking cake.

the cake jumping is fucking class!


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 15, 2004, 06:05:24 PM
I'm guessing its suicide but can someone who actually read the story please confirm this.  Also, the cake part is dumb.  I don't think anyone will ever find a reasonable explanation why that dude decides to launches himself into the cake. Unless its some deep metaphorical message that explains the meaning of life.


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: AdZ on August 15, 2004, 08:27:49 PM
The dude slips on the flowers on the floor.


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: D on August 15, 2004, 09:31:37 PM
I'm guessing its suicide but can someone who actually read the story please confirm this.? Also, the cake part is dumb.? I don't think anyone will ever find a reasonable explanation why that dude decides to launches himself into the cake. Unless its some deep metaphorical message that explains the meaning of life.

The rain is metaphor for Axl cheating and their lives coming unraveled,the guy jumping into the cake is when she finds out Axl is cheating (the cake crumbling,being ruined,destroyed etc etc) the spilt wine bottle is the suicide!

In the story, the singer phones up to her Apt and leaves this big message on the answering machine, he runs upstairs cause he wants to be with her only, he hears a gunshot, he breaks the door in, and the song he wrote for her is playing, she is dead with the suicide note, I don't remember it exact, but he starts playin that song over and over at the piano after he sets the apt. on fire. He burns to death playing that song.

That's the basis of it, I know he destroys all his guitars and shit. That's the basis of the story pretty much.

Expand your minds!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: bad tripp on August 16, 2004, 12:17:57 AM
wow my head hurts..


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: kujo722 on August 16, 2004, 08:17:52 AM
The rain is metaphor for Axl cheating and their lives coming unraveled,the guy jumping into the cake is when she finds out Axl is cheating (the cake crumbling,being ruined,destroyed etc etc) the spilt wine bottle is the suicide!

In the story, the singer phones up to her Apt and leaves this big message on the answering machine, he runs upstairs cause he wants to be with her only, he hears a gunshot, he breaks the door in, and the song he wrote for her is playing, she is dead with the suicide note, I don't remember it exact, but he starts playin that song over and over at the piano after he sets the apt. on fire. He burns to death playing that song.

That's the basis of it, I know he destroys all his guitars and shit. That's the basis of the story pretty much.

Expand your minds!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who are you, and what have you done with D????!!!!!


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: virtuoso on August 16, 2004, 09:56:31 AM
The whole trilogy is based on the short story WITHOUT YOU by Del James, that was based on Axl's life... Read it here:

http://www.allnightthing.net/woutu1.html

What he said... i found another link, but basiclly the same thing.

www.aetheronline.com/mario/ DoNotClick/Favourites/november_rain.htm  (http://www.aetheronline.com/mario/ DoNotClick/Favourites/november_rain.htm)


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: C0ma on August 16, 2004, 10:05:10 AM
i think she got hit by a truck while she was on her bike.
I think you're confusing 'Without You' with that horrible Nicholas Cage movie where he plays an Angel.
Due to that shame I feel for knowing about "City of Angels" I'm going to take a hint from Axl and rent that movie then set my Condo on fire and die watching that horrible movie.


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: ccorn69 on August 17, 2004, 03:21:48 AM
wow my head hurts..

same here, thats a bad trip, huh

peace :peace:


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Billo on August 17, 2004, 06:40:40 AM
HAHAHA  you guys crack me up....Love the video..its classic.. : ok:


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: cUzIn It on August 19, 2004, 03:49:11 AM
if you take a closer look at the part wer she was in the coffin
you'll see that it wasnt really her whole face on it coz half her face was reflected on the  mirror. :)


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Suskind on August 19, 2004, 09:15:26 AM
Lol at the cake part! it crakes me up every time!  :hihi:


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: bad tripp on October 07, 2004, 09:29:59 PM
yeah somehow i dont think he really needed to jump into it... i mean he coulda gone under or around but what possible reason would he have for jumping into Axl's wedding cake


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Saul on October 07, 2004, 10:19:24 PM
there seemed to be something wrong with the rain too, something wrong enough to make a guy jump through a freaking cake.

Oh great! Thanks a fucking lot man. I KNOW sometime tomorrow when I'm at work I'm gunna remember what you said and start a fit of laughter and my co-workers will think I've gone insane .. again.

Holy geez , thats funny!  :rofl:


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on October 07, 2004, 10:23:29 PM
I'm guessing its suicide but can someone who actually read the story please confirm this.? Also, the cake part is dumb.? I don't think anyone will ever find a reasonable explanation why that dude decides to launches himself into the cake. Unless its some deep metaphorical message that explains the meaning of life.

The rain is metaphor for Axl cheating and their lives coming unraveled,the guy jumping into the cake is when she finds out Axl is cheating (the cake crumbling,being ruined,destroyed etc etc) the spilt wine bottle is the suicide!

In the story, the singer phones up to her Apt and leaves this big message on the answering machine, he runs upstairs cause he wants to be with her only, he hears a gunshot, he breaks the door in, and the song he wrote for her is playing, she is dead with the suicide note, I don't remember it exact, but he starts playin that song over and over at the piano after he sets the apt. on fire. He burns to death playing that song.

That's the basis of it, I know he destroys all his guitars and shit. That's the basis of the story pretty much.

Expand your minds!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IF estranged was the real part 3 to the story it would have been such a great Vid.
I love the estranged vid but it doesnt fit with the rest of the triology.

Axl should have just gotten someone else to play the part for the vid.


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: estranged88 on October 07, 2004, 10:42:14 PM
she got trampled by a DEAD HORSE


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Deborah Mel on October 08, 2004, 10:59:09 PM
 I don't know. But it's my favorite part of the video... :beer:


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: ChristineP on October 09, 2004, 02:00:42 PM
does anyone know how and why axl's "wife" dies in the video for november rain?? i really dont know. can anyone fill me in??? please???? ? ???

She is only half dead in the video, NO?  That's why the coffin is split.  He explains it in his making of the video.  Have to go back and watch it again.  It's his fucking nightmare that she dies.  Whatever. 


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: willow on October 09, 2004, 06:00:18 PM
Please guys, just read Dels story, its great! I cry everytime I read it! If you look threw this tread the link to the story is posted!! Its not that long! And if you can get a copy of the book read it. The guy can be really sick, great stuff, for guys and girls!! I wish he would release his other book!!! Been waiting for that one as long as Chin. Dem!! :rofl:


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: Danny on October 10, 2004, 02:14:36 AM
No no no.? You have to look at all FOUR parts of the story.? It begins with the typical boy-meets-girl love theme where Axl and his buddies are hanging out in a bar and Axl meets Stephanie.? They fall in love.? However, because he has screwed so many women and he cares so much about this girl, Axl decides to go and get himself checked out to make sure he does'nt have any social deseases that he may pass on to Steph.? When he gets to the doctor's office, he is suprised to find his evil, insane twin brother Bill who then ties Axl to a chair and paints him green where Axl remains for a long time.? Bill decides to mess with Stephanie's life so he pretends he is Axl and asks her to marry him.? They get married.? However, Axl has an old, dear friend who attends the wedding.? This buddy soon realizes that this isn't the real Axl and he wants to warn everyone.? Unfortunately, he is deaf and dumb and is unable to articulate what needs to be said so he does the next best thing: he dives into the wedding cake.? Stephanie is upset that her wedding is ruined, so she kills herself.? At this time Bill starts to get nervous that he is going to be discovered so he flees to the ocean.? Axl returns to find his girlfriend dead.? Angered, he goes after Bill and chases him to the ocean.? While on a big boat, he thinks that he sees him in the water so he jumps in after him.? While underwater, he falls in love with a dolphin and starts fucking it's blowhole, totally forgetting about Steph.? Months later, all of Axl's friends hold a vigil on the beach hoping that their buddy will return.? Meanwhile, Bill decides that he feels bad for all of the trouble that he caused his brother so he asks his buddy Gary Oldman to give him a ride to the beach so he can wait for Axl to wash up on shore with the rest of the guys.? Underwater, the dolphon gets depressed that this little red-headed midget keeps raping it's blowhole, so it too commits suicide.? Axl does'nt want to stick his cock in a dead dolphin (that would just be gross) so he starts to swim to the surface to be reunited with his friends.? And that's where our story ends...

...so far...

Part five will come out soon where Axl will swim to the beach and him and his twin brother Bill will reconcile.? They will then move to China where they start a baseball team.


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: bad tripp on October 10, 2004, 03:05:14 AM
wow its good to see some people still have so much free time they sit on their ass and type out some bullshit story trying to be funny about it or something


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: willow on October 10, 2004, 10:53:48 AM
Ya! Keep the bullshit to your self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: dontcry44 on October 10, 2004, 12:11:51 PM
Did that guy mix the estranged video with November Rain?   
No no no..... what happened was this.....  Axl's wife got wasted and died of alcohol poisoning, and thats how it ended.


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: ChristineP on October 10, 2004, 12:19:11 PM
wow my head hurts..
mine too....


Title: Re: november rain video
Post by: ChristineP on October 10, 2004, 01:11:19 PM
Please guys, just read Dels story, its great! I cry everytime I read it! If you look threw this tread the link to the story is posted!! Its not that long! And if you can get a copy of the book read it. The guy can be really sick, great stuff, for guys and girls!! I wish he would release his other book!!! Been waiting for that one as long as Chin. Dem!! :rofl:

Ya, it is written on a site called HATTERASLIGHT/GUNSNROSES?   Laungage of fear by Del James?  Without You!