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Title: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Agno on August 07, 2004, 08:34:30 PM
In a Guns n Roses magazine I got from 93 when the Spaggeti CD just have been realesed, Axl says that he was gonna make a solo thing with more music like "My world"... Have you heard about that and do anybody know what happend with it?


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Evolution on August 07, 2004, 08:49:13 PM
It became the band we know as Guns N' Roses today ;)


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Crashdiet on August 07, 2004, 08:49:53 PM
Uh yea... its called guns n roses "chinese Democracy"


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Krispy Kreme on August 07, 2004, 08:55:20 PM
It became the band we know as Guns N' Roses today ;)

Good one! :beer:


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: nesquick on August 07, 2004, 09:02:59 PM
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In a Guns n Roses magazine I got from 93 when the Spaggeti CD just have been realesed, Axl says that he was gonna make a solo thing with more music like "My world"...
I think he went crazy at this time. I can't imagine just 1 second that "chinese democracy" will contain 16 or 17 tracks like "my world". Geffen Records or any record company in the world would never, never ever accept it. Nor the general public. It's just impossible because it would be a sabbotage and a terrible failure.
"my world" nearly destroyed the whole Use Your Illusion 2 album, wich could have been considered as one of the greatest record of all time in my opinion. But "my world" ruined its reputation. Isn't 1 time enought?
No, according to me, "chinese democracy" is very likely to be a "classic-rock" vibe album, with some other sounds, but no more. I can't be a total techno-rock record. That would not be Guns n' Roses. I think (hope) Axl changed his plan after the very mediocre audience reaction to "silkworms"? :nervous: or "oh my god"? :nervous: (what the f*** are these horrible songs? is it the same guy who wrote genius songs like November rain and estranged? I don't recognize him...)
"the blues" and "madagascar" were very well received, they are more normal songs, with a touch of modernity, but they are normal songs.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: volcano62 on August 07, 2004, 10:24:12 PM
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In a Guns n Roses magazine I got from 93 when the Spaggeti CD just have been realesed, Axl says that he was gonna make a solo thing with more music like "My world"...
I think he went crazy at this time. I can't imagine just 1 second that "chinese democracy" will contain 16 or 17 tracks like "my world". Geffen Records or any record company in the world would never, never ever accept it. Nor the general public. It's just impossible because it would be a sabbotage and a terrible failure.
"my world" nearly destroyed the whole Use Your Illusion 2 album, wich could have been considered as one of the greatest record of all time in my opinion. But "my world" ruined its reputation. Isn't 1 time enought?
No, according to me, "chinese democracy" is very likely to be a "classic-rock" vibe album, with some other sounds, but no more. I can't be a total techno-rock record. That would not be Guns n' Roses. I think (hope) Axl changed his plan after the very mediocre audience reaction to "silkworms"? :nervous: or "oh my god"? :nervous: (what the f*** are these horrible songs? is it the same guy who wrote genius songs like November rain and estranged? I don't recognize him...)
"the blues" and "madagascar" were very well received, they are more normal songs, with a touch of modernity, but they are normal songs.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Oh My God is a great song


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: younggunner on August 07, 2004, 11:04:06 PM
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It became the band we know as Guns N' Roses today
I know what was new gnr thinking with songs liek maddy,cd,blues and rhiad. such my world type songs. Whats brian may smoking? Saying how all these my world trype songs are as greata s well...what the fuck is this world coming to...bring back slash and real rock n roll


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: C0ma on August 07, 2004, 11:29:40 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble but Oh My God is a great song

In your opinion


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: the dirt on August 07, 2004, 11:45:56 PM


"my world" nearly destroyed the whole Use Your Illusion 2 album, wich could have been considered as one of the greatest record of all time in my opinion. But "my world" ruined its reputation. Isn't 1 time enought?
 

I wouldn't say it nearly destroyed 2. It was not meant to be anything more than a joke (although OMG wasn't done, sure, just a demo).
Plus, it's a short song, and the record is long. Why not add a minute and a half song in for the fuck of it. The only thing i can think of is that it may have disillusioned the rock purists who abandoned the band due to such a track appearing at all.


What do you have to say about the weirdo move to include 2 identical versions (minus the lyrics) of Don't Cry on each album? Did that nearly destroy the albums also?


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: AxlFink on August 08, 2004, 02:50:31 PM
i dont think any of the songs we've heard sounds like my world


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Voodoochild on August 08, 2004, 03:30:24 PM
Even Silkworms don't sound like My World.
And, for CD being Axl's solo project, go read the article about Tommy. It's not the first time someone (or he) said that Axl wants everyone to put their ideas in the songs, to be an all members work. I really believe him.  : ok:


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: ccorn69 on August 09, 2004, 06:41:32 AM
many people see the new gnr as axl's solo project and I saw it as that for a while untill i started read how axl under takes the writing process and the recording process, and does very democratically with every one having input.  on My World, while it is a weird song that seems to come out of nowhere that most people skip I dont think it ruined the illusions 2 album at all, I see it kind of like all the weird noise that comes after the beatles song "A day in the life" except that axl has lyrics in it, and my world is longer and is seperated as a song, and I dont think that noise at the end of "A day in the life" in the Sgt. Peppers album ruined only the most influential album in history, and likewise my world doesnt ruin Use your Illusions 2 : ok:

peace  :peace:


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: bolton on August 09, 2004, 07:14:40 AM
oh my god is great song


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Mikkamakka on August 09, 2004, 10:27:26 AM
many people see the new gnr as axl's solo project and I saw it as that for a while untill i started read how axl under takes the writing process and the recording process, and does very democratically with every one having input.?

I'm sure all band members loved the idea to get Shaq to do some rap on the album and Lionel Ritchie to do some work, too  : ok:


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: younggunner on August 09, 2004, 12:00:32 PM
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Lionel Ritchie to do some work, too 
ANd your proof of this? : ok:

And if you think Shaq is going to be on CD your an idiot. This happened a few years ago. Axl and Tommy are Laker fans. And when Shaq was recording his album or whatver in the same studio Im sure they just wanted to fuck around. BUt think what you want



Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Nytunz on August 09, 2004, 12:04:50 PM
u never know! There has been alot of different artist in the studio with Axl ... So im sure there will be som feat.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Izzy on August 09, 2004, 03:13:57 PM
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In a Guns n Roses magazine I got from 93 when the Spaggeti CD just have been realesed, Axl says that he was gonna make a solo thing with more music like "My world"...
I think he went crazy at this time. I can't imagine just 1 second that "chinese democracy" will contain 16 or 17 tracks like "my world". Geffen Records or any record company in the world would never, never ever accept it. Nor the general public. It's just impossible because it would be a sabbotage and a terrible failure.

NIN have managed for years to put out bizarre electronic noise without any problems.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Mikkamakka on August 09, 2004, 06:33:05 PM
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Lionel Ritchie to do some work, too?
ANd your proof of this? : ok:

And if you think Shaq is going to be on CD your an idiot. This happened a few years ago. Axl and Tommy are Laker fans. And when Shaq was recording his album or whatver in the same studio Im sure they just wanted to fuck around. BUt think what you want



First, maybe Lionel Ritchie himself claimed that he worked with Axl on some songs the red-haired needed some help. If LR said this, then it's as relevant as the Brian May 'they have 3 albums material'. You also have no proof that they recorded 1 song or 72, but you believe they didn't just fuck around. But I could have written not only Ritchie's, but Beltrami's name, too. I'm also sure that all bandmembers wanted to change producers for 5 times or what. I'm sure everyone in the band wanted this CD procedure to grow this long. Well, some of them didn't and they quit. It's a democratic band: you can quit if you want, but my lawyers will kick your ass. I'm sure that Axl had flu in Philly, but Dizzy forgot to tell us in the past one and a half years.

Second. Thank you, I'm not an idiot, I don't think Axl has 3 or more albums. Shaq's parts hopefully won't be on the record, but it's a fucking insane idea that he'd even done anything on the new(?) GN'R(?) record(?). Imagine it, Shaq to do some rappings, Axl listens, and they record it. Fuck. If there is any Shaq voice on the album, I won't buy that, 'cause it'd be a split to the fans' face. Who cares if Axl and Tommy are Lakers fans, they could love Robert de Niro, Saddam Husein, etc., but it does not have to effect CD. Well, maybe nothing affects the album. Being in the same studio doesn't mean you should have a chance for a guest appearance on a GN'R album. Hell, Shaq doing rap parts on CD is one of the lowest points of GN'R's history, even it was considered only as a joke.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Eazy E on August 09, 2004, 10:44:17 PM
oh my god is great song

In your opinion.... but that opinion isn't shared by very many people.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Krispy Kreme on August 10, 2004, 10:05:22 PM
oh my god is great song

In your opinion.... but that opinion isn't shared by very many people.

I agree. I listened to the song dozens of times and just could not really get into it. I mean, it is ok, but not great by any stretch of the imagination. On the other hand, it was a demo. Go back and listen to the early demos of the original band and then compare them to the final product. The final product is 1000 times better, so one has to assume that Axl will improve OMG as well.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: PeterCoffin on August 11, 2004, 12:13:27 PM
UYI2 is one of the dullest records I've ever heard anyway.

I've grown to like UYI1, though.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: younggunner on August 11, 2004, 01:10:21 PM
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First, maybe Lionel Ritchie himself claimed that he worked with Axl on some songs the red-haired needed some help.
That interview was created by a fan.

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I'm also sure that all bandmembers wanted to change producers for 5 times or what. I'm sure everyone in the band wanted this CD procedure to grow this long. Well, some of them didn't and they quit.
Theres several producers becuase there are different types of songs. Actually being that you acknowledge that there have been several producers you should accept the fact that they have a shitload of songs. Lets break it down. You got rock songs,ballads,pop,industrial and whatver else they have made. Instead of using one producer for all those different types of songs they brought in a few producers that specialize in that genre, etc. Makes sense to me....

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I'm sure everyone in the band wanted this CD procedure to grow this long. Well, some of them didn't and they quit.
SOme? How bout just Buckethead.
Of course they dont wanna take this long. But they new what they got into. ANd aside from Bucket{who still might come back}, they have all stayed and not said anything bad. Josh freese was here in the very beginning but left because he new that it would take a long time.

Tommy has described the recording process numerous times. This is a total group effort and then some. The only problem is getting Axl to let go. ANd also settle any and all legal problems before going ahead.

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I don't think Axl has 3 or more albums.
No1 said he had more???

ANd if you believe that, why are there a few producers who have worked on the songs?

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Shaq's parts hopefully won't be on the record, but it's a fucking insane idea that he'd even done anything on the new(?)
No its not. Band is in the studio, just messin around, Shaq is next door spittin his bootleg rhymes. They say lets have a lil fun and hang out with DIesel. So they fuk around. WHy is that so bad?

I heard Axl is having SHaq redo "It taste good dont it?"....thats the word on da street


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 09, 2006, 09:26:32 AM
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First, maybe Lionel Ritchie himself claimed that he worked with Axl on some songs the red-haired needed some help.
That interview was created by a fan.
Do you have proof of that? Where is the interview, and what was the source?


Sorry Jarmo for resurrecting a dead thread, but I was searching for the Lionel Ritchie interview and couldn't find it. This thread was as close as I got. :peace:


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: mrgnrdvd on July 09, 2006, 09:47:32 AM
if there is 16 songs like my world

I honestly will shoot my self, Because I waited that long for junk



On the 7th day, God rested.... AXL ROSE took over.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: ryan_of_lax on July 09, 2006, 09:47:48 AM
There is NO way that Oh My God was a demo. Why didn't Axl mention this in the Kurt Loder interview when End Of Days was just coming out? He saw that a lot of people hated the song, then said it was just a demo used against his will a few years later. He seemed excited about the song when it came out.

Much like the "I didn't even hear of the Summer Tour" excuse...


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Origen on July 09, 2006, 09:54:34 AM
^ You do realise your responding to posts nearly two years old because someone bumped this up.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: dman1991 on July 09, 2006, 10:42:33 AM


"my world" nearly destroyed the whole Use Your Illusion 2 album, wich could have been considered as one of the greatest record of all time in my opinion. But "my world" ruined its reputation. Isn't 1 time enought?
 

I wouldn't say it nearly destroyed 2. It was not meant to be anything more than a joke (although OMG wasn't done, sure, just a demo).
Plus, it's a short song, and the record is long. Why not add a minute and a half song in for the fuck of it. The only thing i can think of is that it may have disillusioned the rock purists who abandoned the band due to such a track appearing at all.


What do you have to say about the weirdo move to include 2 identical versions (minus the lyrics) of Don't Cry on each album? Did that nearly destroy the albums also?
yeah, the album was so close to selling less than 5 albums beacuse of my world and dont cry, but some miracolus stroke of luck launched it into multi platinum status.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: MeanBone on July 09, 2006, 10:43:04 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble but Oh My God is a great song

In your opinion

and mine too, and a lot more people will agree with me 2. oh my god is amazing, way ahead of it's time, just like anything Axl does.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: mrlee on July 09, 2006, 10:52:54 AM
many people see the new gnr as axl's solo project and I saw it as that for a while untill i started read how axl under takes the writing process and the recording process, and does very democratically with every one having input.
peace  :peace:

Have you watched VH1 behind the music?

listen to the bit where matt is talking about near the time of his leaving.


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: RnT on July 09, 2006, 11:23:16 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble but Oh My God is a great song

In your opinion

IMO too
fuck love that song and axl?s vocals


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: Sweet on July 09, 2006, 11:29:56 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble but Oh My God is a great song

In your opinion

IMO too
fuck love that song and axl?s vocals

Im with you guys, fucking great song 8)


Title: Re: Axl Rose solo project
Post by: estranged2006 on July 09, 2006, 12:00:49 PM
I know what was new gnr thinking with songs liek maddy,cd,blues and rhiad.
they were not thinking.. songs liek maddy, cd, blues and rhiad are all left overs. thats why those 4 suck balls

such my world type songs.
no they are not.

Whats brian may smoking?
maybe hes smokes freddy

Saying how all these my world trype songs are as greata s well...what the fuck is this world coming to...bring back slash and real rock n roll

yes. bring back slash and duff and put some direction into this cover band who is so busy in europe playing AFD over and over agian to the amusment of the europeans who think its the best thing ever.

please bring back slash and duff. let Guns n Roses live again.